Episode 186

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27th Aug 2025

BSG S2E19 - Big Meaty Computer

Laura and Xhafer come up with shipper names for Cally and Tyrol. Laura questions Baltar's debate prep strategy. Xhafer brings the energy. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 2, Episode 19: Lay Down Your Burdens, Part 1.

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Transcript
Xhafer:

Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast hosted by two former

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strangers, now friends who are currently

ing Battlestar Galactica from:

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I'm Jair.

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Laura: And I am Laura and Jair is bringing

a lot of positive energy because I have

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nothing, but I hate Gais Baltar energy.

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Xhafer: So we, we were, we were catching

up very briefly before we hit the button.

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To record.

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I did officiate a wedding yesterday.

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So I have been like very socially

drained and non-communicative

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most of the day today.

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Laura: Sure.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: I

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Laura: As one does.

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Xhafer: yeah, it was three very

social days for me, and even as an

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extrovert, I was just fucking done.

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I had the wedding on Saturday.

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I had the rehearsal on Friday, and

then I had a work cruise on Thursday.

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Laura: Work crews.

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Xhafer: yeah, see it's a weird sentence.

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Um, so it was like a company outing

and they rented a big yacht and had

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a hundred of us on this giant yacht.

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This three, it was like

a three story boat,

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Laura: wow.

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Xhafer: uh, cruising around the

Port of Detroit going under all

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the bridges and stuff, going up

and seeing some of the islands.

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Laura: which lake is that?

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It's on one of the lakes, I'm

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Xhafer: it's in between Huron and Erie,

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: so they do connect via waterway.

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: Um, but it got to go under

both the bridges into Canada and the

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southern part of Detroit, which is fun.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: 'cause I've, I've been on the

bridge, I've been on one of the bridges.

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The other bridge isn't open for

another month and a half 'cause it's

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brand new, but got to go under and

see the undersides of those giant

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suspension bridges, which is fun.

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Laura: Ooh.

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Xhafer: a common view.

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Um, but it was just lots of like work

mandated socialization followed by

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lots of wedding mandated socialization.

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Laura: sure.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: So that is the most

energy I've had for anything

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today, and it's already gone.

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Laura: It all went into the

intro and now it's over.

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It's just downhill from here.

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It's gonna be Laura bitching about Gais.

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Baltar in a very tired GE affair.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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That's that's what, that's what

this episode is going to be.

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Laura: That's what you come

to this podcast for, right?

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Right.

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Xhafer: Tired, Jafer.

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Laura bitching about Gaas.

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That's what we're here for.

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That's what we do here on Who are you the

premier Dick and fart joke, Bab Babylon

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five in Battlestar Galactica podcast.

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Laura: yeah.

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Yeah.

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Mm.

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Okay.

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So I will spoil for the audience that

I have watched parts one and two.

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At this point, we are not

going to talk about part

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Xhafer: No, we're saving

that for next week.

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Laura: So bringing us back, reminding

myself where we're at in part one.

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'cause that's the thing about

a Battlestar two parter.

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If you watch both parts, it's like,

holy shit, where did we even start

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: all this?

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So the uh, previously on

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was reminding us about Sharon and the

virus that she sent to the silent ships.

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Lee got promoted.

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Starbuck go into Caprica.

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Campaigning for president.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Yeah, we get, um, another LTO flashback.

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That totally didn't happen.

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Laura: Oh, yes.

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Tell me.

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Xhafer: Starbuck talking to Infirm Rosalyn

about needing to go back to Caprica.

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Laura: Ah, yes.

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This is the thing that I complained

about a lot was like, why is Starbuck

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not talking about this more to people?

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Right?

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Xhafer: because it was in deleted scenes.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I was like, we should see her like making

the case for, we've gotta go to Caprica.

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Like there's people there,

there's women stuck in farms.

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Like go now.

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Go, go, go.

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And we never see it.

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But apparently somebody filmed it.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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There's another little bit that we

didn't get to with Lee telling Dee

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that he's leaving Galactica, not her.

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Laura: Yeah, that didn't

happen in an episode.

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Right?

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Okay.

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That's what I thought.

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Xhafer: But yeah, that's, that's it.

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As far as uh, the LTOs that aren't real,

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We open on the chief having bad dreams.

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Laura: yo, I could not tell this was

the chief at first because we have

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so much thrashing and also the beard

has gotten so voluminous and thick.

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Like I think he's done a five o'clock

shadow before, but now it's very beard.

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Xhafer: Yeah, he's got

a lot of beard going on.

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It's, it's a good look for him.

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But he is very disheveled.

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He's also sleeping on the Hangar

Bay floor, which I clocked

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here, but is confirmed later.

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But what we don't see later

is that he's in boxers.

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Laura: Oh, I didn't see that.

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Xhafer: We get that in this scene before

they fully show us that this is the

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Hangar Bay floor and then later he's not.

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But in this scene he is.

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So I've got

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Laura: did he s.

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Did he sleepwalk here?

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Is that maybe what they're

trying to get at is like he, he

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slept, walk to the hangar Bay.

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Xhafer: I would think so.

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Laura: I hope so.

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Not that he was just like, I'm

tired and took off his pants.

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Xhafer: Right at work.

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Laura: Uh,

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You know, those lines of

gotta be a little blurry.

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Right.

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You know, sometimes when you're

working from home and you, you

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work in whatever you work in,

they're always working from home.

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Galactica is home.

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Xhafer: they're never working from home.

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They're homing from work.

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Big difference.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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So you should always have

pants on in that case, right?

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Xhafer: BSG R's got problems if you

don't have pants on, on the job.

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Laura: We know Galactica HR is like

non-existent if we hadn't thought it

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before this very episode confirms it.

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Xhafer: For sure.

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Guys and Rosalyn are both doing

debate prep in their own way

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Laura: Gaia's debate prep is smoking

and staring at his campaign posters.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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His own way.

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Laura: I don't know that

that's, that's a very loose

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definition of the word prep, but,

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Xhafer: He's probably thinking.

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Laura: Well, yeah, I guess he

is, he must be talking to six PTA

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little bit here because I noted that

he's telling her he's gonna lose.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Starbuck does a c debrief about

the Caprica rescue mission.

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Lots of cutting around here.

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Laura: Yeah.

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and at some point in this cutting

around, she's gonna tell the.

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The team that they don't have to go

on this, like, this is a volunteer

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mission, but Hilo is sitting in

that room and they're, you know,

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as they're showing the room.

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Hilos face is very good because

you can tell that like Hilo

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knows too much about this

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and he has feelings that are on his face.

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It's very nice.

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Good work.

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Xhafer: Yep.

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We get some nice world building.

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We already know that uh,

ships can jump much farther.

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Uh, so they, they, they put some

numbers to it where it's all like,

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look for where we're at right now.

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You know, it's gonna be hundreds of jumps

for raptors to get back to cap from here.

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For a silent, heavy

Raider computer, it's 10.

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Laura: Yeah, it's not a matter

of like something about the

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engine, it's a matter of math.

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Right.

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They just can't calculate that well.

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Xhafer: So I believe that the

way jumping works, you could

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jump anywhere in the universe.

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Laura: Hmm,

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okay.

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You just,

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have to do the math to figure out

that that's the right spot and you're

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not jumping into say, a mountain.

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Xhafer: yes.

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Or worse in between galaxies like.

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There's, there's a lot of places you

could jump to where you would just

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have no way of knowing where the fuck

you are, especially if we count the

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entire ever expanding universe as

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Laura: yeah

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Xhafer: it gets real

shitty, real quick, so

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Laura: sure.

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You gotta have them good computers

and if you don't network 'em together.

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Xhafer: it's tough.

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Laura: Yep.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Tough, tough work.

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Rosalyn is also like, as she's

prepping for the debate and all this

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cutting around, she's ripping up her

index cards as she goes through them.

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And she explains to Adama

that this is like a, a thing

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she's always done to prepare.

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You just rip it up and let it

fall where it, wherever it does.

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And he gives her the, the tip of

she should also break a pencil.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: I think it was his

father's lawyer trick.

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Xhafer: Yes, this works for her

until she breaks the last pencil

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in the fleet in Adama's office.

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There is no pencil manufacturing

ship left when this flotilla.

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Laura: Yeah.

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You'd have to find a

planet with some trees.

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Xhafer: Yep.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: Wonder if that will happen.

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Laura: Yeah, but she also gets the

giggles whenever she's gonna go for a

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big debate, and so she's like struck by

the giggle fits as Tori comes to get her.

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Xhafer: Yeah, this is adorable.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Rosalyn just like giggle

fitting as Adama walks her

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: this is so cute.

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Laura: He hasling holding

in his own giggle fit.

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Like he's, he thinks that

her giggling is so cute

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that he also wants to giggle.

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I love it.

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But in the, in the cuts also,

we're told that, you know, we uh,

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don't have those cylon computers,

but we have a CY computer.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Well, they, they pull a silent

computer out of that raider.

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We see it later in the Raider.

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There's

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Laura: Oh, that's right.

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We do see, I was, I was referring

to Sharon, but I guess we have

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two silent computers then.

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Xhafer: And they're gonna

network, so that'll help.

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Yeah.

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But so Sharon's involved

to make sure the math goes

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Laura: This is a big meaty

computer too, when we see it

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Xhafer: Yes, it is.

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Laura: a, a big meaty boy.

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Xhafer: It it, it looks more like

something that got pulled out of the

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oven too early, that it does a computer.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But oh boy, these pilots, a lot of

them are not super happy with this plan

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: and the sharing of it all.

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Xhafer: Nope.

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But it is still volunteer only.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yep.

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So if you're really not happy

with it, you don't have to go.

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Then we also get six PT reminding

Gais that he's chosen by Cy

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: And he's not super into it

'cause he is like, oh yeah, just like

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I was supposed to protect our baby,

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you

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Yes.

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We care about the child

again, ever so briefly.

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Laura: And she wants him to get his act

together as Zurich comes to summon him.

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And we don't get a scene of Gaia giggle

fits, which would be so creepy, right?

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Gaia giggle fits.

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But can you imagine a Gaia giggle

fit with Zurich like arm in

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arm with Zeek down the hallway?

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Xhafer: Look, I don't support the

use of AI for much of anything,

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but this might be an exception.

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Laura: I am tempted.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We get some great gaas crazy eyes

to a cut though, but still no theme.

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Xhafer: No theme.

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Rosalyn has to tell Gais he's

fucked as Callie finds Tyrell who

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breaks her nose before he wakes up.

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Then we get theme.

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Laura: Yeah, no, this is crazy.

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Xhafer: This was a super long cold open.

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It's rare that I have like an entire page

of notes before I hit a survivor count,

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Laura: yeah, it was a,

a super long cold open.

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We got the three important

things happening.

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Going back to capa.

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We've got the big debate.

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This is the first debate we're told,

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right?

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And then tier old just wailing on Callie.

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All of these things are

important in the episode.

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Uh, but yeah, 12 minutes

in before we get to theme,

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Xhafer: Damn.

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Laura: I, I timestamped it 'cause it

was really long and we are at 49,579.

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Xhafer: That's unchanged

since last episode.

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Didn't take place on the fleet, really?

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It was all silent.

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Bullshit.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We had the, we had the baby

get born in the last episode.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Laura: it count?

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Xhafer: Um, no.

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Was the Baby

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born last episode or two episodes ago?

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I think the

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Laura: was born last

episode and downloaded.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Well, the count is unchanged.

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Maybe because the baby not a human.

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Laura: Right.

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Right.

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Xhafer: Hmm.

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So, uh, after we come back from

theme here we see Tiro seeking

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the counsel of Brother Kall.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: This is

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Laura: Brother Cylon, you mean?

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Well, they don't know that yet.

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You go through this whole

episode not knowing that.

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Laura: Oh, I, I was like, the second

he says, not too far into the episode,

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he makes the joke about, I haven't

seen you at any of the meetings or.

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Something again.

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Oh, we'll find it when I get there.

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And I was like, definitely a silent.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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he's great.

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Dean Stockwell is great.

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Laura: Yeah.

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This, I don't know.

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I don't like any of this stuff with Tyre,

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Xhafer: Yeah, most of it is here

to introduce you, Dean Stockwell,

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so they can do the thing.

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Next episode with him.

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Laura: Right, right.

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I hope it's setting up something

different for Tera later, but

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like I don't like any of it.

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Xhafer: Maybe.

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Laura: Like when they flash back in the,

the last time on to Sharon and the virus,

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it really made me think again about now

how Teal is having these nightmares.

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That he is the same as Boomer

or something like that.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: And I was like, Hmm, huh.

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Well, and he's not even, his nightmares

are just about him jumping off a balcony.

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Right.

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But Brother Caval tells him that

he's afraid he's a silent, that's

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why he's having the nightmare.

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But that doesn't, I mean, it

doesn't have to be that, like, that,

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doesn't have to be the real reason.

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Xhafer: I mean, it's a plausible one.

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It would make sense for him to

be worried about that given his

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proximity to Sharon in her unknowing.

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Laura: There would be a lot of

reasons for one to feel like jumping

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off a balcony though in Battlestar

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Xhafer: not great on Galactica.

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Yeah.

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Laura: things bad.

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Xhafer: Bad.

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So, yeah.

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Solid definition.

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Laura: Okay.

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Yes.

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But basically in this conversation where

we're meeting Brother, brother Cabell,

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Tyrell says that he doesn't think that

God's listened to his nightly prayers.

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He prays every night, but the gods

aren't listening, and the priest tells

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him that the gods don't answer prayers.

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You have to find your own

way out in the wilderness.

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Hmm.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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The chief is like, you

sure you're a priest?

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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It's very odd.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I.

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Uh, After this, Lee and Kara

have an awkward little moment.

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He means well, but also fucks up a little.

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He's trying to reassure her.

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It's a good plan.

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And Kara's all like, I

know it's a good plan.

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I fucking wrote it.

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You don't need to detail it to me.

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And it's just like in the

context of this, I could see

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this coming off as mansplaining,

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Laura: Yeah but

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it was supposed to be

for me, the audience.

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Xhafer: Yeah, I, yeah, I don't think that

Lee is trying to explain to Starbuck.

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Her own plan.

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I think it's Lee's attempt to let us

know that he's optimistic at its success.

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But the awkward in the room over their

current state of friendship makes the

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whole thing just fucking weird to the

point where they are, I don't know if

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you caught this they frame Lee at really

crooked camera angles in this scene.

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Laura: Is this what you

screenshotted and put in the

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discord and said this is for later.

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Okay.

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I am going to pull it up.

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Xhafer: So, yeah, like, God, as of

listening, scroll up two and a half

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weeks in the Discord, I wanna say.

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Laura: It's, it was on August

16th if you need an actual

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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And you'll see this shot of Lee.

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Where like star, everyone else is

framed normal and Lee is sitting

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weird on a sofa that is at an

angle and the wall is somehow at

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an even steeper angle behind him.

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We know this is the Pegasus Co room.

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These are Helena's bookcases that used

to be filled with guns and stuff, right?

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Like, we know that's what this is.

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That's the set.

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And somehow they've shot it with these

camera angles that are so offputting.

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Like, look at the lamp, look at how

angled this fucking lamp is in this photo.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: It's such a good fucking

subtle detail because this

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would suck to shoot like this.

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Can you imagine rigging

a camera at this angle?

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Like, I mean, obviously if you've got

this, the, the, the rig for it, it's

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fine because you just rotate it, right?

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I don't know.

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I'm, they were in season two.

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They probably had money at this point.

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They probably had cameras with

actual rigs to do off tilt shots.

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but like to go into the work to

do this, like this fucking sucks.

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This is not an accident.

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Right this, this was a very specific

choice you have to make to shoot

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a camera at this kind of an angle,

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and it's

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just enough to be really off-putting.

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Laura: I'm wondering if it's just

as simple as like they're trying

425

:

to be, like their relationship

is broken, or if it's also.

426

:

Like Starbuck still feels weird

about Lee, like she's still

427

:

got weird feelings for him.

428

:

And so she might be grounded in

this room, but when she looks

429

:

at Lee, she's not grounded.

430

:

Xhafer: Okay.

431

:

I can see that too.

432

:

Yeah.

433

:

Laura: that's, that's where

I'm going with it anyway.

434

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

435

:

Anyways, chef's kiss to this camera angle.

436

:

Love this shit.

437

:

Laura: Yeah.

438

:

He tries to be nice and says he hopes

that she finds Anders, so, okay.

439

:

Xhafer: Tory And Rosalyn go over debate

pests coverage as guys and Za do the same

440

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

441

:

Xhafer: while they're doing this,

the Rescue mission launches Starbucks

442

:

says, thank you to Adama for like

the first time as Sharon and Hilo.

443

:

Have a moment.

444

:

Laura: Yeah.

445

:

Back up to the debate,

debrief for a second.

446

:

Tori.

447

:

Predicts, she says, oh, well I think that

the religious angle is the only angle Gais

448

:

can try to hit, but you're doing great.

449

:

And then we cut to Zurich telling

Baltar to hit the religion.

450

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

451

:

Laura: Yeah.

452

:

And uh, six PT agrees with Zurich also.

453

:

So not big on this religious angle.

454

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

455

:

Laura: Oh yeah.

456

:

So as we're jumping out on the

mission racetrack and her crew

457

:

jumped to the wrong coordinates.

458

:

Xhafer: Yes.

459

:

It's the first jump and they miss it.

460

:

And so the crew keeps going

and uh, we'll come back to

461

:

Racetrack and crew in a moment.

462

:

Laura: They jumped back,

I, I believe, right?

463

:

They jumped home.

464

:

Xhafer: No.

465

:

Laura: Oh, okay.

466

:

Xhafer: They jumped to new

caprica is what we find out.

467

:

Laura: Oh, that's right.

468

:

But then they do jump home.

469

:

Xhafer: Yes.

470

:

Laura: There's a very important pit stop.

471

:

So the wrong jump was too new.

472

:

Caprica.

473

:

Uhoh.

474

:

I'm just realizing something.

475

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

476

:

Laura: And I, I think it had, it had

sort of hit me a little bit in this

477

:

episode, but now that we're actually

talking about it, it hit me harder.

478

:

The Cylon ship meet and possibly

Sharon jumped them to New Caprica.

479

:

Xhafer: Hmm, well, only racetrack

got the wrong coordinates, got

480

:

or got the coordinates wrong.

481

:

Didn't necessarily get

the wrong coordinates.

482

:

Laura: Hmm.

483

:

So it could be that they just, they got

the numbers, but they typed them in wrong.

484

:

Not that they were sent

to the wrong place.

485

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

486

:

Laura: Hmm.

487

:

I don't know.

488

:

I don't trust it.

489

:

Too coincidental.

490

:

I feel like the asylum sent them there.

491

:

So we get back to the

priest talking to Tyrell.

492

:

Xhafer: Talking about his dreams.

493

:

Laura: Yep.

494

:

He's got this recurring dream

of climbing up to a balcony,

495

:

I assume in the Hangar Bay

496

:

and Christ posing to dive off of it.

497

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

498

:

Laura: So we've had several of

our male figures do the Christ.

499

:

Adama

500

:

Lee Gaas, and now it's IFF turn.

501

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

502

:

I mean, hands out stretched.

503

:

It's, it's a pose.

504

:

It's traumatic.

505

:

it invokes emotions in people.

506

:

It's effective at that.

507

:

So, you know, you use it, they play.

508

:

It's, it's a, it's a greatest

hits at this point, you know?

509

:

Laura: yeah.

510

:

I find it interesting that

all our male characters get

511

:

to be Christ for a a moment.

512

:

Xhafer: Um.

513

:

That one's worth the face.

514

:

Just wait on that one.

515

:

Laura: I guess he's been having this

dream every night for a couple of weeks.

516

:

Again, I'd love to know

when this dream started.

517

:

I'd love to know,

518

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

519

:

Campbell calls out his

suicidal tendencies here.

520

:

Laura: mm-hmm.

521

:

Xhafer: And this is when we get

racetrack and the crew discovering

522

:

a planet hidden in the atmosphere.

523

:

After they jump, there's a nebula

that is obscuring dra, and then in

524

:

it they find a manhar class, planet.

525

:

And man, I fucking love enterprise

for making that M class planet make

526

:

sense by making it a Vulcan word.

527

:

Thank you, enterprise.

528

:

Laura: Uh, Some, some good red conning.

529

:

Xhafer: It is the best kind

of rec conning, the kind

530

:

that doesn't change anything.

531

:

Just makes something make sense.

532

:

A plus.

533

:

Love it.

534

:

Laura: Yeah.

535

:

But we find out it's not

super duper in class later.

536

:

Like it's livable, but

537

:

Xhafer: it's not great.

538

:

Laura: but like barely.

539

:

Yeah.

540

:

Xhafer: Yeah, things

would be difficult there.

541

:

Laura: Yeah.

542

:

So we go back and brief gada,

543

:

uh, well, gada and

racetrack brief at dama.

544

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

545

:

We got a little montage here of them

discovering more about the planet.

546

:

they, this is where they talk about it

not being great, but it possible they

547

:

talk about the drains, interference,

making it difficult to find,

548

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

549

:

Xhafer: And this also rapidly becomes

guy's whole platform for president.

550

:

Despite him knowing that it would suck,

551

:

Laura: Again, like we know because

we've both seen parts one and two.

552

:

Now what's gonna happen?

553

:

But no one brings up,

554

:

Xhafer: I.

555

:

Laura: even in this conversation

between Gata and Dee, that like,

556

:

oh yeah, it's in this Nebula.

557

:

The silence may never find it.

558

:

The Cy may never find it if you don't

have moles in the fleet, but we've,

559

:

Adama has said before, we don't know.

560

:

We don't know what's going on.

561

:

So like it's useless to you until

you root out the moles in the fleet.

562

:

Xhafer: yeah.

563

:

I.

564

:

Laura: Totally useless, but no one,

no one wants to recognize that.

565

:

We can't even turn our faces towards it.

566

:

We don't even skirt our way over there.

567

:

Xhafer: I mean, it's a quick way

to lose yourself to paranoia.

568

:

Laura: But I think paranoia is like

justified right here now in this world.

569

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

570

:

It's, I mean, I have yelled at

the TV a bunch when watching

571

:

the, you know, dominion War stuff

on DS nine for the same reason.

572

:

Where it's all like, oh,

we're just being paranoid.

573

:

It's like, no, they

can fucking shapeshift.

574

:

Laura: Yes.

575

:

Xhafer: You're being

perfectly rational right now.

576

:

Laura: I wish someone had a silent

detector, is all I'm saying.

577

:

Xhafer: Right?

578

:

If only we could develop a silent

detector that was reliable.

579

:

Laura: Yeah, so Baltar and, and uh,

six pt, he's like, Baltar looks at this

580

:

planet and like this, this planet is

bullshit, is like his first impression.

581

:

And she's like,

582

:

no, no, no.

583

:

Xhafer: sucks.

584

:

Laura: No, no, no.

585

:

This is your new home.

586

:

And Zurich, of course, is the one that's

like, you know, this is our issue.

587

:

This is our thing.

588

:

She's gonna wanna keep moving.

589

:

We say, we stop moving, we

settle here, we, we do this.

590

:

And that's how we win.

591

:

Cause after nine months in some of these

ships, can't be great living places.

592

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

593

:

Laura: Nine months of boxes, nine months

of at best hotel rooms on cloud nine.

594

:

Like people are ready.

595

:

They wanna get

596

:

Xhafer: a great hotel.

597

:

Laura: Yeah.

598

:

I mean, half of it is

like brothel apparently.

599

:

So, yeah.

600

:

Xhafer: Tori says

something I wish was true.

601

:

More often people vote for

their hopes, not their fears.

602

:

Laura: Uh.

603

:

Xhafer: Be fucking great?

604

:

Laura: That'd be great.

605

:

I can't remember the

last time that happened.

606

:

Oh wait, maybe was it 2008?

607

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

608

:

There might have been a candidate

who was really big on hope

609

:

Laura: Right.

610

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

611

:

Laura: But I don't think I've had a

hope candidate since is all I'm saying.

612

:

Xhafer: Caval tells Tyro.

613

:

The meat of the issue.

614

:

He's worried he is a

silent and doesn't know it.

615

:

So this is where Caval has that great

callback with the silent meetings line.

616

:

This of course, being something that

six said to Baltar back in season one,

617

:

Laura: Yes.

618

:

Xhafer: Six PT was all like, oh,

I don't remember seeing him at the

619

:

silent or her at the simonon meetings.

620

:

Laura: Yeah.

621

:

Yeah.

622

:

And the second those words were out,

I, you know, I'm, I'm suspicious of

623

:

everybody who walks onto the set in

this show, but the second those words

624

:

were out, I was like, that's it.

625

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

626

:

Laura: He's a silent, like, you

don't need to show me the second

627

:

half of this episode for me to know

that Brother Cavel is a silent.

628

:

And I wonder like, is Brother Cavel

just a priest who they had like.

629

:

You know when they pulled Tyrell into

the break here and they, he said he

630

:

wanted religious help, did they just

like get on the phone to all the other

631

:

ships and be like, find me a priest,

or was he like military chaplain?

632

:

Was he already on Galactica?

633

:

Xhafer: Well, he also serves as a

priest for Rosalyn at the top of

634

:

the next episode, very briefly.

635

:

Laura: Yeah, but it's still not

636

:

Xhafer: probably just,

yeah, probably just a guy.

637

:

Laura: Yeah.

638

:

Xhafer: CA's just a guy.

639

:

He is the, he is the guy.

640

:

Laura: he's just some kinda gay.

641

:

Xhafer: He is some kinda guy.

642

:

Laura: yeah.

643

:

But this whole time he's been very much

like not religion like, and it's gonna

644

:

get cleared up in the next episode.

645

:

But you know, he, he's not very, he's

not the tender shepherd kind of priest,

646

:

like as he and Tiro are talking.

647

:

Tyrell is like not acknowledging

this as any sort of truth.

648

:

He's like, well, okay, I'm not gonna

stay here 'cause you're wasting my time,

649

:

so I'm gonna go, I'm gonna head out.

650

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

651

:

Laura: And uh, yeah, he, he

thinks that Tyrell is afraid he's

652

:

a asylum, which I guess is a.

653

:

A valid reading of this, but I'm

like, there are all kinds of reasons

654

:

a man could be suicidal in this,

655

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

656

:

Laura: this circumstance, especially

a Teel Chief Teel must suffer is the

657

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

658

:

It feels that way a

659

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

660

:

Xhafer: doesn't it?

661

:

Laura: Yeah.

662

:

Xhafer: I mean, Ron Moore wrote on

Deep Spirits Nine just saying, I.

663

:

Laura: It is true.

664

:

But whom lifted from whom?

665

:

Xhafer: Wrote on TNG too, which also

has its own O'Brien Must suffer episode.

666

:

Laura: that's true.

667

:

Yeah.

668

:

Xhafer: So

669

:

Laura: But he tells Tiral to go

back to work and I was like, what,

670

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

671

:

Laura: what?

672

:

Where's the like.

673

:

Where's the court

martial or whatever, like

674

:

there's gotta be some justice

675

:

Xhafer: okay, so yes,

676

:

Laura: uhhuh.

677

:

Xhafer: but

678

:

Laura: No, there's no buts.

679

:

Go ahead and try.

680

:

Go ahead and try.

681

:

Xhafer: I believe that if there was

an attempt at it, Cali stops it.

682

:

Laura: I, I get that.

683

:

Like the victim can say, no, I don't

wanna press charges, but the military

684

:

personnel looking at the video should

be like, no, I think we should.

685

:

Xhafer: So, I mean, I would agree.

686

:

I, I definitely feel like

there should be some justice.

687

:

I mean, we don't see if there

is anything there might be, then

688

:

we just don't know about it.

689

:

Laura: Demoted,

690

:

maybe.

691

:

Yeah.

692

:

Xhafer: Um, there's not really, there's

not really time to give us that story, so,

693

:

there might be something in there along

694

:

Laura: I don't know this, this

whole thing is insane because like.

695

:

Xhafer: I mean, no arguments.

696

:

Laura: I don't know if this episode is

the place to discuss it, but like clearly

697

:

Callie is so over the moon for Tyre

698

:

Xhafer: Yes.

699

:

Laura: that she lets him beat the shit

out of her and doesn't care like mm.

700

:

Xhafer: I mean, I'm not trying to defend

his actions to be absolutely clear, right?

701

:

He was asleep, I mean.

702

:

I, I don't know.

703

:

I feel, I think I feel a little

bit raw about this because people

704

:

have disturbed me in my sleep and I

have swung at them while waking up.

705

:

Like that is a thing

that has happened to me.

706

:

I've never broken anyone's nose.

707

:

I've never connected.

708

:

I was unconscious.

709

:

It was just like an instant, like someone

grabbed me, I react kind of a thing.

710

:

And so like part of me empathizes

because this is something I'm

711

:

terrified I could possibly do.

712

:

Laura: Yeah.

713

:

Xhafer: but also like this is absurd.

714

:

Like this is a comic characterization

of it, not a thing that

715

:

would actually happen, Right,

716

:

Like to be completely unconscious,

like to, to have an unconscious like

717

:

grab of someone when you're getting

woken up is one thing to pummel

718

:

them for a minute and a half is.

719

:

Crazy.

720

:

Laura: and.

721

:

Xhafer: that's a, that's a line that I

think should be drawn attention to as

722

:

a distinction of, no, he was clearly

conscious at some point in here.

723

:

Laura: Maybe what gets me so like

incredulous about it and I, obviously

724

:

domestic violence, not part of

my story, don't know anything

725

:

about what that's like, right.

726

:

But it just kind of.

727

:

Chaps my hide to see a story on TV where

728

:

Xhafer: They just hand wave this

729

:

Laura: we just hand wave over it.

730

:

Xhafer: because of her feelings For him,

731

:

Laura: Right,

732

:

Xhafer: a hundred percent, no.

733

:

If she did not have feelings for him and

with the next episode, they were not.

734

:

A couple spoilers, um, that would be.

735

:

Yeah.

736

:

No, I, I totally get it.

737

:

Because, because of that,

it's significantly worse.

738

:

I agree wholeheartedly.

739

:

Laura: Yeah, just like the, the whole

well, he just, he didn't mean it, and he

740

:

just needs a woman's love and attention

to make him better and I can fix it.

741

:

That really fucking grates me.

742

:

Ronnie d don't like it.

743

:

Don't like it.

744

:

I feel like there's some.

745

:

Damaging narratives there that yeah,

maybe women do tell themselves that,

746

:

but like we shouldn't perpetuate it.

747

:

We shouldn't glorify it in any way

like with our TV show, so maybe

748

:

don't, that's all I'm asking.

749

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

750

:

No, that's perfectly reasonable.

751

:

Laura: Yeah, I think, I think

that's what I needed to say about

752

:

Tyrel and Callie and why I am like

753

:

Xhafer: No, no, it's fucked.

754

:

It's completely fucked.

755

:

Like.

756

:

The fact that I, I do believe the reason

that if there are no charges and we

757

:

never get an answer for that is because

she was like, no, he was unconscious.

758

:

He didn't mean it.

759

:

Laura: I scared him.

760

:

It's my fault.

761

:

Really?

762

:

I shouldn't have done

763

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

764

:

Like if I hadn't gone and violently shook

him when he was having those terrible

765

:

nightmares, maybe he wouldn't have hit me.

766

:

Right.

767

:

That's the vibe.

768

:

And honestly, I'm mad

at, I'm guessing adamo.

769

:

Maybe Ty.

770

:

Probably Ty.

771

:

Laura: They're probably the, yeah, it's

probably Ty who let it go, and it's like

772

:

we all, who, who among us hasn't taken a

swing at our woman, is what Ty is saying.

773

:

Xhafer: right.

774

:

Yeah.

775

:

A hundo and it's just like, oh God.

776

:

Ugh.

777

:

Laura: Yeah, so I, I suspect I, you

know, we've got two seasons of show left.

778

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

779

:

Laura: They might be trying to make

Callie and Tyrell into a cute thing.

780

:

I'm probably never gonna buy into it.

781

:

Xhafer: This is not a meat.

782

:

Cute.

783

:

This is a meat.

784

:

Get the fuck away

785

:

Laura: Yeah, no, Laura's never gonna

accept this relationship because these

786

:

terms that it started upon are wild.

787

:

Xhafer: for sure.

788

:

Laura: Yeah.

789

:

So, okay.

790

:

He's, he's gonna go back to work,

the priest says, and he's gotta go

791

:

face his family again because they're

gonna be his salvation from the gods.

792

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

793

:

Oh,

794

:

Laura: Huh?

795

:

Okay.

796

:

Xhafer: Tyro.

797

:

Oh, okay.

798

:

Caval.

799

:

Caval.

800

:

Okay.

801

:

Laura: Okay.

802

:

Don't like this guy.

803

:

He sucks.

804

:

Xhafer: Uh, Yeah, that's

what makes him great.

805

:

Laura: Yeah.

806

:

Xhafer: I dunno.

807

:

Just Dean Stockwell being able to play

for comedy, like the, the scene we get

808

:

with him in the next episode is one of

my favorite scenes in the entire show.

809

:

Laura: Gotta say that was a delight.

810

:

We're gonna talk about it again

and it will still delight me, I'm

811

:

Xhafer: we'll talk about it soon.

812

:

Meanwhile though, Starbucks team

mix it di Caprica, this is where one

813

:

Raptor jumped inside of the mountain.

814

:

Oh.

815

:

Laura: Yes.

816

:

So we lost racetrack since they went to

New Caprica Planet and we lost one because

817

:

they just went inside the mountain.

818

:

Oops.

819

:

But no silences on Drees.

820

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

821

:

Laura: And I guess it's

been a couple of days.

822

:

Is it days between debates

823

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

824

:

Laura: you think?

825

:

Yeah.

826

:

So.

827

:

Back on Galactica.

828

:

We've hit debate number two

829

:

and uh, everybody's all a

Twitter about this new planet.

830

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

831

:

Yeah.

832

:

Lots to talk about here.

833

:

Laura: Rosalyn's trying to defend the

journey to earth, which as we remember

834

:

was religiously motivated, right?

835

:

Pythia said that.

836

:

This is where you should go

or this is where you're going,

837

:

or something to that effect.

838

:

But we lost El Lota when we

were getting our map to earth,

839

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

840

:

Laura: the, the Stars.

841

:

and Rosalyn never replaced her

religious advisor it seems like.

842

:

Xhafer: No.

843

:

Laura: So.

844

:

There, the message perhaps

has gotten a bit diluted.

845

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

846

:

It's not as focused as

it was before for sure.

847

:

Gaia here really espouses the ability to

control the narrative of their future.

848

:

Um, not to fear but to embrace hope.

849

:

It really sounds great.

850

:

It's too bad.

851

:

It's bullshit.

852

:

Laura: Oh yeah.

853

:

It's all of the right words coming

out of the exact wrong person's mouth.

854

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

855

:

Laura: This is wild.

856

:

I Maybe you can decipher

some of my notes here for me.

857

:

Xhafer: we'll see.

858

:

Laura: I wrote Baltar response to

a complete call out of the truth.

859

:

What was I talking about?

860

:

Xhafer: Um, I think Rosalyn was all like.

861

:

I mean, we can consider settling, but

we don't know enough about this planet

862

:

to say if it's a good idea or not.

863

:

Maybe we should talk about it more.

864

:

And I think that's when

he was all like you.

865

:

That's when he turd and

was all like, don't fear.

866

:

We have to hope And

867

:

Laura: Yeah.

868

:

And, and that this is a good hiding spot.

869

:

That's his other thing.

870

:

Like, yeah, they're following us, but

they can't find us in this Nebula.

871

:

Xhafer: Yeah, probably.

872

:

Mm-hmm.

873

:

Laura: And Rosalyn gets, oh, she gets

so close, but I understand why she

874

:

doesn't say it now that you've said it.

875

:

She reminds 'em that the silences

could know about this place.

876

:

We really don't know, and I understand

why she doesn't go a step further and say.

877

:

If there's another silo still in the

fleet, they're just gonna call home

878

:

because that paranoia

is a double-edged sword

879

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

880

:

You

881

:

Laura: that's gonna cut her

just as hard as it cuts gais.

882

:

So I understand why she doesn't say it.

883

:

I have complete empathy for that,

but somebody should be thinking it.

884

:

So many people should be

thinking it that aren't,

885

:

Xhafer: Right.

886

:

Just put your pen to paper guys.

887

:

Come on, think about it.

888

:

Write it out.

889

:

Laura: yeah, but baltar's all like

Rosalyn's trying to control you with fear.

890

:

And it's so funny.

891

:

It's so funny 'cause I really

don't see any of Rosalyn's

892

:

actions as trying to control.

893

:

Population.

894

:

She, she's just trying to

do what's best for them.

895

:

And yeah.

896

:

And some of that involves

shaping a narrative, right?

897

:

Like, we gotta make the story digestible

at a third grade level, just like when

898

:

we were writing newspaper stories,

you know, so that people can get

899

:

it and head in the right direction.

900

:

But Gaas is literally

trying to control people.

901

:

He is.

902

:

Doing the thing he says he's not doing.

903

:

Xhafer: Yeah, it's it's a real

case of best intentions, worst

904

:

methods versus worst intentions.

905

:

Best methods

906

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

907

:

Xhafer: like Gaius is the smiling

face that everyone trusts when he

908

:

has no one's best interest in mind.

909

:

And Rosalyn has only everyone's best

interest in mind, but also manages

910

:

to fucking hate democracy Somehow.

911

:

It just like has to have people

held as hostage to be able

912

:

to agree to having elections.

913

:

Okay, secretary of Education,

like you're an appointed official.

914

:

Come the fuck on.

915

:

Laura: Yeah.

916

:

Yeah.

917

:

But Gaas has, has that big, like,

918

:

whenever you point your finger at

someone, there's three other fingers

919

:

on your hand pointing back at you.

920

:

Like, that's Gais.

921

:

Like he says, she's trying

to get you to do thing.

922

:

I'm trying to point.

923

:

Where my camera will get it, but they're,

all of these little bad boys are just

924

:

like, actually that's, that's him.

925

:

He's doing it.

926

:

They're just screaming.

927

:

Don't trust guys.

928

:

Don't do it.

929

:

Oh my God.

930

:

He's gonna get you all killed.

931

:

Xhafer: Right.

932

:

Laura: Yeah.

933

:

Xhafer: Speaking of getting them all

killed over on Caprica yellow, the rescue

934

:

mission finds the resistance where most of

them have died before a big attack starts.

935

:

Laura: Yeah, and we don't know what most

of them means because it is very fast.

936

:

All of

937

:

Xhafer: It is very fast.

938

:

There's not a lot of people, and even

like next episode, when we see this

939

:

resolved, I still feel like we never find

out how many people they actually saved.

940

:

Laura: Yeah, it's true because

like I think when we left Caprica,

941

:

right, Anders had about 60 or

942

:

something, but we don't know,

like in the intervening time,

943

:

did they gather some more?

944

:

Did they just lose more?

945

:

Like what happened?

946

:

What was the give and take on that?

947

:

If he had had, if he'd managed to keep

all of the 50, which seems difficult,

948

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

949

:

Laura: then he is got 25 maybe.

950

:

'cause he says like half of my people

died this morning or something to her.

951

:

Xhafer: I softball math it as 20.

952

:

When we, when I, I actually because I've

also watched next episode at this point

953

:

and written my notes out, I actually

do a fair amount of math next episode.

954

:

Laura: Oh, fun,

955

:

Xhafer: Um, so I try to, I try to

figure out a couple of things and

956

:

extrapolate a couple of things.

957

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

958

:

Yeah.

959

:

There's definitely some math to be

done because we had a whole raptor

960

:

go into a side of the mountain.

961

:

We're probably gonna lose some people

in this sudden firefight, which is

962

:

the end of the episode, by the way.

963

:

Xhafer: Yes, we go to, to be

continued real quick here.

964

:

Laura: cut off from

the raptors to credits.

965

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

966

:

Well, what'd you think of this one?

967

:

Laura: what did I think of this one?

968

:

I almost shouldn't watch the second

part before we record, but we're in

969

:

such a crunch that I needed to do it.

970

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

971

:

Laura: I kind of wanna fuck this episode.

972

:

Xhafer: I'll save that for next one.

973

:

Laura: Yeah.

974

:

Tuck this two-parter.

975

:

Xhafer: Ah, fair.

976

:

Do you, I.

977

:

Laura: Man, I don't know.

978

:

Xhafer: This episode, I mean, this

is one of those ones, and I say

979

:

this every time where so much stuff

happens that it felt like nothing

980

:

happened, but too much happened.

981

:

And it's just like, I, I feel this way

at every super exposition heavy part,

982

:

one of a two part episode where I'm all

like, yeah, a bunch of stuff happened.

983

:

We didn't get payoff for anything.

984

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

985

:

Xhafer: it's just set up for the next one.

986

:

Almost everything that happens

in this episode just set

987

:

up for stuff that happens.

988

:

Next episode.

989

:

Laura: Yeah, I think I gotta give it like.

990

:

I don't know.

991

:

Is it mean to give it an eight

992

:

Xhafer: Nah, eight's fine.

993

:

Eight's still good.

994

:

Laura: I just am so,

995

:

Xhafer: Eight's like a 72%, 74% like it's

996

:

Laura: I'm so upset about Gais.

997

:

I am so baffled at Do, do we need

to give Cali and Tyrell a ship name?

998

:

Ugh.

999

:

Tally, Carol Carol is

their ship name, isn't it,

:

00:45:48,507 --> 00:45:49,167

Xhafer: Carol.

:

00:45:49,467 --> 00:45:49,557

Oh

:

00:45:49,572 --> 00:45:50,232

Laura: Carol?

:

00:45:52,557 --> 00:45:54,597

Xhafer: I don't want

to do that for, no, I.

:

00:45:55,992 --> 00:45:57,552

Laura: I'm so baffled at that.

:

00:45:58,452 --> 00:45:59,172

Yeah.

:

00:45:59,412 --> 00:46:01,122

No, I I, I'll give it an

:

00:46:01,272 --> 00:46:02,772

Xhafer: Tally tally

:

00:46:03,072 --> 00:46:04,062

Laura: I said tally.

:

00:46:04,062 --> 00:46:04,392

Yeah.

:

00:46:04,392 --> 00:46:04,572

Do you

:

00:46:04,572 --> 00:46:05,172

like that?

:

00:46:05,682 --> 00:46:05,742

I

:

00:46:05,742 --> 00:46:06,132

don't know.

:

00:46:06,192 --> 00:46:07,272

I think Carol's funny.

:

00:46:08,802 --> 00:46:09,432

Xhafer: Carol.

:

00:46:10,152 --> 00:46:11,987

Laura: Because it's kind of

like a boomer name, right?

:

00:46:12,102 --> 00:46:12,942

Xhafer: Yeah, right.

:

00:46:15,282 --> 00:46:15,672

No, no.

:

00:46:15,912 --> 00:46:16,312

This is,

:

00:46:16,747 --> 00:46:16,867

Laura: Hmm.

:

00:46:17,637 --> 00:46:19,482

Xhafer: I, I mean, this is the dsap.

:

00:46:19,722 --> 00:46:23,322

Um, I, I really like Dean

Stockwell in this episode.

:

00:46:23,980 --> 00:46:24,670

he does a great job.

:

00:46:25,415 --> 00:46:28,025

Of just being like the priest

who doesn't give a shit.

:

00:46:28,775 --> 00:46:33,605

Um, he, he's, he's fun in

this app and I don't know.

:

00:46:33,605 --> 00:46:34,415

I'll give this a nine.

:

00:46:34,475 --> 00:46:35,225

Nine, not 12.

:

00:46:35,695 --> 00:46:35,985

Laura: Okay.

:

00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,820

Yeah, we got big shit coming next time.

:

00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:41,330

So

:

00:46:41,585 --> 00:46:42,350

Xhafer: Yeah, we sure do.

:

00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,435

Lay down your burdens part too.

:

00:46:44,675 --> 00:46:48,275

You've already watched it, so I don't

need to neuter this episode description,

:

00:46:48,515 --> 00:46:52,265

but I already neutered the shit out of

this episode description when I wrote it

:

00:46:52,265 --> 00:46:53,225

down on my notes.

:

00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:57,320

Laura: maybe there's a listener out

there who will appreciate the effort

:

00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:57,905

you have gone through, so go ahead.

:

00:46:58,703 --> 00:47:02,033

Xhafer: The group on Caprica

is under fire by the Cylons.

:

00:47:02,543 --> 00:47:06,143

The election comes down to

one ship's vote, and Roslyn

:

00:47:06,143 --> 00:47:08,363

considers a new course of action.

:

00:47:09,142 --> 00:47:09,382

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:09,382 --> 00:47:11,032

You neutered the hell out of that.

:

00:47:11,037 --> 00:47:11,317

Yeah.

:

00:47:11,377 --> 00:47:11,597

Uh,

:

00:47:12,427 --> 00:47:12,817

Xhafer: Oh

:

00:47:12,907 --> 00:47:13,197

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:14,077 --> 00:47:14,377

Xhafer: Oh

:

00:47:14,377 --> 00:47:14,557

yeah.

:

00:47:14,557 --> 00:47:18,427

The ep, I mean, the episode

description that I had for it.

:

00:47:19,102 --> 00:47:21,802

Was significantly more detailed

:

00:47:22,387 --> 00:47:22,677

Laura: yeah.

:

00:47:23,542 --> 00:47:24,982

I can only imagine.

:

00:47:25,882 --> 00:47:26,332

Xhafer: so,

:

00:47:29,092 --> 00:47:31,762

but we'll talk about that next week.

:

00:47:32,452 --> 00:47:36,052

This week we still have to say

thank you to a couple people.

:

00:47:37,192 --> 00:47:40,047

Hey Jeremy, how you doing?

:

00:47:40,967 --> 00:47:41,932

I haven't talk to you in a minute.

:

00:47:41,932 --> 00:47:42,922

I hope you're doing good, buddy.

:

00:47:43,847 --> 00:47:45,587

Thanks so much for

composing our theme music.

:

00:47:45,587 --> 00:47:49,667

You can find more Jeremy's work at

Jeremy Siegel 40 two.bandcamp.com

:

00:47:50,237 --> 00:47:52,457

on streaming services as nuclear Jaguar.

:

00:47:52,697 --> 00:47:57,947

And I think an album from one of your

bands is about to hit streaming as well.

:

00:47:58,997 --> 00:47:59,207

I'm

:

00:47:59,242 --> 00:48:01,172

Laura: I I think that seems

:

00:48:01,337 --> 00:48:01,847

Xhafer: books.

:

00:48:02,691 --> 00:48:02,871

I don't

:

00:48:02,871 --> 00:48:06,651

Really do much on the Facebooks,

but I think last time I logged on

:

00:48:07,071 --> 00:48:11,181

to check some birthday posts, I,

I saw something along those lines.

:

00:48:11,496 --> 00:48:16,056

Laura: I do believe that I, I

know Jeremy had a busy weekend

:

00:48:16,086 --> 00:48:18,126

with uh, persons unknown.

:

00:48:18,754 --> 00:48:25,714

They did a big show and yes, they have

had a single that dropped at least.

:

00:48:25,849 --> 00:48:26,359

Xhafer: Okay.

:

00:48:26,989 --> 00:48:28,039

For persons unknown.

:

00:48:28,594 --> 00:48:29,554

Laura: persons Unknown.

:

00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:31,639

Xhafer: Yeah, check them out

on streaming services too.

:

00:48:31,699 --> 00:48:32,719

Jeremy's in that band.

:

00:48:33,229 --> 00:48:34,219

Show them some love.

:

00:48:35,164 --> 00:48:36,274

Laura: Yeah, please do.

:

00:48:36,934 --> 00:48:37,564

And you know what?

:

00:48:37,564 --> 00:48:41,794

If you hop on over to Instagram,

you can show Angry duck time

:

00:48:41,794 --> 00:48:44,075

machine, some love as well.

:

00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,740

Lots of cool, cute little artworks,

little cartoony peoples over there.

:

00:48:48,980 --> 00:48:50,180

So take a look.

:

00:48:50,795 --> 00:48:54,215

Xhafer: And if you like those cartoony

peoples and you want like, I don't

:

00:48:54,215 --> 00:48:58,205

know, a shirt or a hoodie or a sticker

with some of those cartoony peoples,

:

00:48:58,445 --> 00:49:00,005

you could get that at a merch store.

:

00:49:00,345 --> 00:49:01,670

You can find the link in the discord.

:

00:49:03,175 --> 00:49:06,625

On most of our posts, it should

be showing up most places.

:

00:49:07,135 --> 00:49:10,105

we got an Etsy shop sh set up

where you can get all kinds

:

00:49:10,105 --> 00:49:11,755

of wa Hoppa, her family merch.

:

00:49:12,421 --> 00:49:14,731

yeah, get your, we love lease mugs,

:

00:49:15,226 --> 00:49:15,346

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:16,171 --> 00:49:17,531

Xhafer: you know, whatever

you're looking for.

:

00:49:18,076 --> 00:49:20,836

Laura: The hottest new

mug in Australia, I hear.

:

00:49:21,061 --> 00:49:21,451

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:49:22,171 --> 00:49:22,951

I got mine.

:

00:49:23,851 --> 00:49:26,161

I, I, I, I did a test one.

:

00:49:26,776 --> 00:49:30,106

Of a post I made in the

Discord that just said, uhoh.

:

00:49:30,106 --> 00:49:31,156

I did the math again.

:

00:49:31,756 --> 00:49:34,786

'cause I thought that would be a

funny mug to bring into work where

:

00:49:34,786 --> 00:49:36,466

I have to do math professionally.

:

00:49:37,036 --> 00:49:38,855

And uh, it's great.

:

00:49:38,945 --> 00:49:39,785

It's a great mug.

:

00:49:39,995 --> 00:49:40,415

So,

:

00:49:41,420 --> 00:49:41,900

Laura: Love it.

:

00:49:42,275 --> 00:49:42,425

Xhafer: yeah,

:

00:49:43,295 --> 00:49:45,240

Laura: thanks listener for

being here with us on this.

:

00:49:45,335 --> 00:49:45,455

Xhafer: I,

:

00:49:46,265 --> 00:49:48,365

Laura: Just awful downward journey.

:

00:49:48,455 --> 00:49:50,255

That is the end of season two.

:

00:49:51,335 --> 00:49:51,965

Battlestar

:

00:49:51,965 --> 00:49:52,745

Galactica.

:

00:49:52,850 --> 00:49:53,420

Xhafer: worse, Lori.

:

00:49:54,125 --> 00:49:54,725

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:49:55,115 --> 00:49:56,105

It gets worse.

:

00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,430

Xhafer: You don't even know yet.

:

00:50:00,875 --> 00:50:01,445

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:50:02,615 --> 00:50:03,065

Yeah.

:

00:50:03,395 --> 00:50:04,055

So.

:

00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,050

Hooray.

:

00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:08,060

Love you being here though.

:

00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,590

Thanks for hanging out with us.

:

00:50:09,650 --> 00:50:13,880

If you wanna hang out with us

more, come on over to the Discord.

:

00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,300

If you're a spoilers person who

wants to hang out with us more,

:

00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:21,635

holler in general for an admin and

they will put you in Spoiler chat.

:

00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,400

Xhafer: You should see the stuff we're

talking about in there right now.

:

00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:26,480

Laura: Ugh,

:

00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:27,170

Xhafer: Oh, boy.

:

00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:28,700

Laura: Stop.

:

00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:31,100

So mean.

:

00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:31,880

I'm gonna have to take a

:

00:50:31,970 --> 00:50:36,020

Xhafer: since we've started recording,

there have been posts in there.

:

00:50:38,255 --> 00:50:41,435

Laura: I am gonna have to take a

day off when this is all over and

:

00:50:41,435 --> 00:50:44,765

just scroll through the spoiler

chat when I'm finally let in

:

00:50:44,945 --> 00:50:46,895

Xhafer: It's, you're gonna

need more than a day.

:

00:50:47,225 --> 00:50:47,885

Spoiler.

:

00:50:47,885 --> 00:50:51,365

Chat might be our most active

channel in the Discord.

:

00:50:51,815 --> 00:50:53,225

Laura: Oh, rude.

:

00:50:53,225 --> 00:50:54,785

The one I'm not in.

:

00:50:54,785 --> 00:50:56,525

I see how it is, guys.

:

00:50:56,585 --> 00:50:58,475

Oh, so mean.

:

00:50:59,135 --> 00:50:59,825

Alright.

:

00:51:00,260 --> 00:51:01,310

I'll get over it.

:

00:51:01,655 --> 00:51:03,695

Xhafer: Yeah, you'll get in.

:

00:51:03,695 --> 00:51:04,685

You're gonna get in there.

:

00:51:05,075 --> 00:51:09,935

I really hope, more than anything, I

really hope you go back and re-listen.

:

00:51:11,330 --> 00:51:14,540

Laura: I, you know, I might, I'm probably

gonna have to watch this show over

:

00:51:14,570 --> 00:51:17,720

'cause there's already things that have

happened, you know, in the last couple

:

00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:19,610

of episodes and I'm like, oh shit.

:

00:51:19,970 --> 00:51:24,440

Was there something I should have seen

in the first few episodes about this?

:

00:51:24,455 --> 00:51:24,725

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:51:25,235 --> 00:51:30,932

I mean, I have been called out in

spoiler chat a number of times.

:

00:51:31,382 --> 00:51:32,042

I'll say that

:

00:51:34,777 --> 00:51:36,332

Laura: Hmm, I can't wait.

:

00:51:36,512 --> 00:51:39,842

Xhafer: I've made some word choices

that seemed innocuous at the time.

:

00:51:41,702 --> 00:51:43,802

Laura: Well, so did Ronnie DI think.

:

00:51:43,982 --> 00:51:45,212

Xhafer: Yeah, for sure, hun.

:

00:51:45,932 --> 00:51:46,202

Yeah.

:

00:51:46,804 --> 00:51:49,354

All right, well I guess

we'll see you next week.

:

00:51:49,354 --> 00:51:49,774

Internet.

:

00:51:50,284 --> 00:51:50,704

Laura: Yep.

:

00:51:51,094 --> 00:51:52,174

Have a good week.

:

00:51:52,234 --> 00:51:52,534

Bye.

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.