Episode 176

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Published on:

18th Jun 2025

BSG S2E10 - Lieutenant Binoculars (Featuring Ben from Last Time On)

Ben from Last Time On returns again to express his appreciation for stern brunettes. Laura is not impressed with Admiral Cain. Xhafer makes the face again. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 2, Episode 10: Pegasus.

Find more of Ben and Xhafer on the Last Time On podcast wherever you get your podcasts.

Join us for more discussion on the Discord @ https://discord.gg/MUHKDDk6TN

Transcript
Laura:

Hey listener, if you haven't seen season two, episode 10, Pegasus

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of Battlestar Galactica, just know

that there is some pretty graphic

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abuse and sexual assault in this

episode that we will have to try to

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meaningfully discuss in this episode.

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So if that's gonna be difficult

for you, please skip this one

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and we'll see you next time.

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We love you.

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Stay safe.

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Bye-bye.

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Xhafer: Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast hosted by two former strangers,

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now friends who are currently working

their way through:

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Battlestar Galactica.

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I'm Jair,

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Laura: And I'm Laura,

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Xhafer: and today we've got

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Ben: Ben.

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Xhafer: Hey, Ben,

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Laura: coming in hot, Ben.

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Xhafer: in hot.

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Ben: I'm, I'm excited

to be here for this one.

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'cause I, I, I don't know this, this felt

like a good one for me to be back for.

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Xhafer: I mean, you requested

this very early on, I think when

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the, the call before the call went

out for any guest host, it was,

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give me 33 and give me Pegasus.

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Ben: yes.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: and here we

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Ben: Yeah.

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and I realized talking to Jair

before we started recording,

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I had a joke all prepared.

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I was gonna say, oh.

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Hey, we're watching Zena Season

five, episode 19, Pegasus.

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And that was gonna be a fun joke

because I didn't think Lucy Lawless

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was in the show yet, but I missed that.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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That, that's in the gap between aired as

of recording and when this will go out.

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So that, that episode

actually airs tomorrow, Ben.

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So you'll get to hear us

talk about Lucy Lawless then.

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Ben: Fortunately she's not in this

episode because we have our 100% full

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limit of strong terse, brunette women.

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Laura: We, we are above max.

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Actually.

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We need to dump some real quick.

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Ben: they need the, the Rosalyn special.

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Laura: Yeah, I, I think we need to dump

a, a few 'cause boy we are maxed out.

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But I think before we talk episode

there's some other stuff we need to talk.

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Laura: And you know how we had, Voyager

did it First Delta flyer edition.

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We kind of have, Voyager

did it first Equinox.

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Xhafer: Well,

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Ben: Yeah.

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Xhafer: I, I, I disagree.

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Laura: Well, yes, there's lots of reasons

that I think this is different from

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Xhafer: no, no.

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It's Battlestar Galactica 78.

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Did it first.

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Laura: Oh, okay.

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All right.

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Xhafer: This is a two-parter,

same episode name.

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In that series within Admiral

Kane who comes in and it's a

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whole thing just like this.

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Ben: Our Admiral Kane is better.

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Xhafer: So,

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Ben: just some old guy with the beard.

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He's not bringing that.

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Michelle Forbes Energy

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Xhafer: who is Admiral?

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I feel like I know the actor

who did Admiral Kane in the 78.

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Oh.

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It's gonna bother me.

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I'm Googling it.

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Laura: Have you actually

watched any of the 78 affair?

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Xhafer: Lloyd Bridges was Commander Kane

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Ben: B's dad.

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Xhafer: in, in the original,

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Laura: I was

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Ben: General

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Landry himself.

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Xhafer: the most famous of his children.

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Laura: Uh,

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Ben: I mean, there's Jeff, but I mean,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Ben: how many episodes

of Stargate was Jeff on?

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Xhafer: Hey, don't forget Cindy Bridges.

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She was on an episode of

the Lloyd Bridges Show.

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Ben: Cindy Bridges is more

famous than some of the Baldwins.

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Laura: yeah.

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Okay.

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So was it the same sort of plot in 78?

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Pegasus.

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Xhafer: I haven't seen it.

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Ben: It's different.

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I will say it's different.

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I,

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Laura: Okay.

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Ben: but a big, a big part of it is,

Hey, there's another Battlestar out here.

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I will say everything else different.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: yeah.

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so, definitely like notes of the

Equinox idea in here, but this to

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me is like, maybe, maybe Ronnie D

had pitched this idea to Voyager

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before, you know, he went and did his

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Ben: I wouldn't be surprised.

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I,

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Laura: Yeah.

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And then they, they like did

it in their own way, but like,

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he's like, what if darker?

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You know?

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Ben: yeah.

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What if they came here?

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If they were here in the Delta quadrant

and they're just like, let's fuck shit up.

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go home.

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Xhafer: I mean, we still have, after

this episode, there's still a lot

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to find out about Pegasus journey

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Laura: Oh,

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Xhafer: get here.

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I will say that without, without any more

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Ben: They made a whole movie about it.

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Xhafer: They did

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Laura: Wow.

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Really?

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Xhafer: It, we don't

watch it until a while.

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I think.

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I forget if

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Ben: come out for a while,

but they circled back around

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and tell the Pegasus story.

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Xhafer: yeah, I think it's, I think

they released it in between seasons

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three and four as a holdover.

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When, uh, things got delayed, they

decided to Martian make the movie.

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but yeah, there is a movie that's about

Pegasus from day one to this episode.

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Laura: Wow.

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Ben: it's

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a razor.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Yeah.

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Razor.

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So that's definitely on our calendar.

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it's part of

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Ben: there is no battle.

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Sar Galactica Toka.

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That is

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the one person out there

who's like Ben made a Teenage

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Mutant Turtles two reference

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Xhafer: of the,

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Laura: wow.

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That person ain't

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Ben: Andreza.

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Laura: Well, you know, if you,

listener, if you, uh, have been

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following along, you know that I

watched this a little bit ago, right?

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So.

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I've had a couple of like

weeks to stew on this episode

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and I haven't watched anymore.

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Xhafer: weeks,

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Ben: is an episode to,

to not watch anymore.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I don't know how you, I, I

told you it was a three parter.

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Laura: I know.

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And I haven't hit parts two and three yet.

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Part of it is that I'm preparing

for my summer class and I'm

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feeling very behind on that.

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So I'm spending like all my

free time making PowerPoints.

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Woo.

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But I, one of the things that, like,

after watching this episode, and I'm

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pretty sure I sent Jair one of those

text messages about like, this sucks.

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I hate it,

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Ben: I believe GE sent that to me.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Laura: and.

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I, I have had time to ruminate on like,

why did this upset me more than Equinox?

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Because they are so very similar.

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So I had to like pull it

apart for myself, you know?

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Maybe it's obvious to the rest of

you, but sometimes I have to sit with

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a thing that makes me feel a thing

in order to get all the ideas out.

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And so I had like three main reasons

to myself that I feel like this was

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viscerally more upsetting than Equinox.

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Like Equinox is not easy, is it?

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Is it also two parts?

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That's what I thought.

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I thought it was two parts.

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Ben: finale, season premiere,

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Laura: Wow.

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Xhafer: a summer after

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Laura: Yeah.

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And I hear this was a bit of a stew too.

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'cause it was the Midseason

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Ben: mid-season break.

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Laura: Yeah.

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And of course, you know,

Ronnie de adds an extra part.

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So, great.

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Three parter.

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Fun.

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I, I was like, okay, I have to know for

myself, why does this make me feel worse?

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And I was thinking about Starlee

versus the Galactica universe.

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And like Star Fleet is a very

idealized version of humanity.

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It's very aspirational.

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Uh, Even after we got nineties

trek where it's like actually

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dark things happen all the time.

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But that, that like idealized

version of humanity is not

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quite as salient to us, right?

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We can see ourselves in

it, but maybe not quite

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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There's work

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Laura: ourselves as now

ourselves as we want to be.

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Ben: Yes.

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Laura: And the galactic accrue

is that much more like believable

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current state of humanity.

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And Jair and I talked in the last episode

or maybe the one before about how like,

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you know, there's no like phasers and.

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Spanner or some things, or like

wave a light over it in galactic.

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It's like welding and like things

that exist in our universe today.

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Yeah.

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So it feels more salient when bad things

are happening in the galactic universe.

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To me, I think, and then, you know,

the, the Equinox, and it's been a

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minute since I've seen Voyager, but

my, the basic takeaway I had in it, in

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my mind is that the violated party in

that is like some blobby, floaty boys.

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Ben: it is screechy aliens

from the the fifth dimension.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Like

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Xhafer: unrelatable.

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Laura: yeah.

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Not, uh, with a human face, shall we say.

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And they're being like drained of their

energy or for the War Corps or something

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like, something very techno babbly.

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Ben: And it's not

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just

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Xhafer: this matter and using it to make

a matter anti-matter reaction, I guess.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Ben: it, it's alien energy

can make our warps go faster.

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That yeah.

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Laura: But this is like these things

that just look, just like humans

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are being tortured, just like humans

would be tortured for information.

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So that's also a very

salient, like we can picture

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Xhafer: and I'm not trying to downplay

what happens with their silent prisoner

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or their boomer in this episode.

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But like, she also just

treats humans like shit.

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She shot her first officer, you know,

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like, like she is.

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Terrible to anything sentient.

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Laura: Admiral Cain and the shooting

of the first officer, I wasn't quite

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clear at the end of this episode

if that really happened or not.

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We know Ty believes.

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That she shot the first officer,

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but it was presented as like,

maybe it's just a rumor.

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I don't know.

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Ben: And I actually, so I wanted to bring

this up when we get to it in the episode,

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but we're talking about it right now.

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And I found this absolutely fascinating.

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As somebody who watches the, uh,

miniseries band of brothers at least

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once a year, there is a character in

that captain Spears who, one of the

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stories about him is, did you know

that during the D-Day landings, he

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shot one of his, his own sergeants?

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And the guys are like.

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It's like a mythical rumor about him.

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Much like for our Galactica

people, Kane shooting her xo

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Ben: and in that it's treated like,

hey, he had somebody who was being

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insubordinate and not getting the job

done and he just, shot the guy and they

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moved on and like they have completed

their objective and it's not treated

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as a, Hey, this is, is something such

that creates such a warning that we're

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like, we will never trust this guy.

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And I just thought it was a very

interesting dichotomy of Kain shot her XO

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when they wouldn't complete an objective

in an actual historical person there.

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You know, they talk about it like, I don't

know man, that feels kind of weird, but.

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I bet he was probably justified.

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Like they don't immediately jump to this.

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This person is, has the

taint of evil around them.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Ben: And that was the two immediate

you know, reference points I had for

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Officer who shoots a subordinate.

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Xhafer: Hmm.

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Laura: Yeah, and Band of Brothers

is historical and we've like done

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the history treatment on that.

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Ben: there are problems

with Band of Brothers.

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The big problem with Band of Brothers

is the author Steven Ambrose, like just

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interviewed people without doing any

historiography of like, reading, like

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go, like going deep into notes and stuff.

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And so one thing famously in the show,

they report that like a guy died.

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And he didn't die.

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He recovered from his wounds,

like continued to serve throughout

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the war and then fought in Korea.

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He just got moved to a different

unit but since he just interviewed

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people, they were just like, oh

yeah, that guy Blythe, he got shot

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and then we never saw him again.

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He probably died and since he

didn't like read medical reports,

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he just interviewed people.

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Laura: Well, When I, when I

say the history treatment, I

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mean, we, we storify it, right?

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We, we, we make it very storied,

and that's not always accurate.

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Ben: Right.

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Laura: That's, that's what I'm speaking

of when I say the history treatment.

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But the, the third thing I had on

why I feel ickier about Pegasus is,

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uh, we've been so primed to dislike

and distrust all of the silos, right?

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in Equinox, those floaty boys

didn't do anything, right?

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They were just existing in the fifth

dimension or whatever, and accidentally

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got pulled over by something and

techno, techno, techno babble.

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Uh,

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Ben: Subspace anomaly.

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Xhafer: Start liquefying them.

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Yeah.

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Throw in the ship's blender.

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Laura: Yeah.

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And so when we're like looking at what

is happening with our two female cys,

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Sharon, and six in this one we're, we're

doing a more effortful processing trying

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to reconcile like the bad things of the

cy with the bad things now happening

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to the CY and trying to think like,

okay, is there like a line somewhere.

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Ben: Yeah.

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Is, is this bad until you do a genocide?

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Laura: Yeah,

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Ben: It's like, no.

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I, I still feel bad about it, but

also like they did do a genocide.

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Laura: yeah.

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It's like, what?

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What?

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What do we do with this information?

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We have to spend a lot more time on it.

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Or maybe we don't, some people

don't, but I had to ruminate

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for a little while on this one.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Ben: I am going to stand up

on my Miss Rachel's soapbox

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and just say genocides bad.

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Um,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Ben: but also be like, Hey,

assaulting people is bad.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Ben: I don't like any of this.

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Laura: No,

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me neither.

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Ben: But I am also a weirdo who believes

that the means justify the ends.

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Laura: That's a bold statement to drop.

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Ben: How you get there

is the more worthy part.

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Xhafer: instead of the,

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Ben: Yeah.

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So it's not the ends justify the means.

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The means justify the ends.

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Laura: Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

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Xhafer: Well, that made

my brain skip a beat.

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You guys wanna get into this episode?

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Ben: Let's do it to it.

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Xhafer: All right.

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We open on Starbuck, going

over a Caprica Rescue Mission

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Plan with Adama and Rosalyn.

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Man, this must feel like ages ago if

you didn't rewatch the episode, Laura.

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Laura: Yeah, it does.

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Xhafer: Um, we know the CYS

can do this in a single jump.

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I'm guessing that they're just

better at math, better at star

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charts at Adama references the red

line, which we know is the level of

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observable space from the colonies.

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It would take Galactica 241 jumps minimum

to get back to Caprica, maybe double

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when she starts to argue about the

necessity of this compared to the scope.

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When action stations are called

Starbuck runs to the fighter Bay

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as a dam calls CIC to get tie

moving on, what he needs to happen.

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There's an unknown huge ship and

ditis, they think it's a base star.

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Alert fighters have been launched.

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Ben: And as you were talking about all

the Equinox stuff, this just may be like,

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how badly does Adama wish right now?

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He could just go onscreen

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Laura: Uh,

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Ben: instead of just like

looking at the bleeps and bloops,

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Laura: there's a big, large bloop out

there, but I can't tell you what it is.

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Xhafer: As they

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Ben: do we not have a freaking telescope?

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Like we saw that there's a forward

observation bay, just like.

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Have, have Gada out there just

with binoculars all the time.

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You are now lieutenant binoculars.

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Laura: I mean, we saw that, that forward

observation bay is like the place to be.

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Right.

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We have a rotation, we have

like a bouncer outside, so

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just like have some binoculars.

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Anytime the li the, the, uh, alarms

and lights start blaring, like have

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somebody pick up those binoculars.

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Ben: for you to bone down, you have to

sign up for a shift on the telescope,

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Laura: Exactly.

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Xhafer: Does that mean that there's

people boning in there while

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you're doing your telescoping?

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Ben: your noise canceling

headphones, Jair,

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Laura: You should get some noise canceling

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Xhafer: noise is actually

the thing I'm least concerned

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Ben: looking through the telescope.

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Jair

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Ben: see nothing Jair.

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Xhafer: The bit in me wants to go

through all five senses and continue

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complaining right now, but I think we're

just gonna move on because we spent like

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Ben: You are on a Battlestar

full of recycled air.

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Nothing smells

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Xhafer: That's a hundred percent.

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Well, it's probably like an airplane air.

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As long as no one farted

right next to you, we'll

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Ben: See, I'm imagining it's

more like submarine air,

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which like before they made it a

like against the rules to smoke.

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I've heard like when you

surfaced on a submarine was the

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happiest you are on a submarine.

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'cause it was just

cigarette smoke and farts.

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Um,

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Laura: There should be no

smoking on a submarine.

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When we, when we built submarine, we

should have said no smoking in tube.

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Like, it's like no guns in

tube, no smoking in tube.

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Ben: fair.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Ben: You try telling a man from

the:

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underwater in a tube, he can't smoke.

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Xhafer: I need a cigarette

Thinking about it,

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Ben: they invented the plane

like 20 years ago, and you

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would tell me to go underwater.

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I'm gonna smoke.

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Xhafer: When they get a little closer,

they get colonial transponder signals.

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They start their contact code protocol

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Pegasus returns, ATIs call.

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And this is Admiral Kane,

played by Michelle Forbes.

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Most famously Ro Lauren from TNG,

They get visual confirmation and

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we cut over to see Pegasus, CIC

and this is the happiest moment.

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It is all downhill from here.

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Ben: we, we have found the cooler

Daniel, like this, this, is a nicer,

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fancier, flashier battle star with

just a ton of vipers swarming about it.

420

:

Xhafer: Yeah, we'll talk

about that in just a moment,

421

:

Laura: At the end of this here,

Lee says that you won't believe it.

422

:

It's like a dream.

423

:

And Adama says it is a dream,

which made me like super paranoid

424

:

for the rest of it.

425

:

Like what's real,

426

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

427

:

Ben: and they also say it's a miracle, and

that is one of the things that is like.

428

:

Oh, hey, when you like, add a like quasi

sense of mysticism around your show,

429

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

430

:

Ben: when you've got a character who's

just like, everything is happening because

431

:

this is what God wants, you can hand

wave the conversation we have later.

432

:

It's like, Hey, Pegasus,

how did you find us?

433

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

434

:

Ben: Like, it's been months.

435

:

How did you find us?

436

:

God wanted it to man,

437

:

Laura: Yeah.

438

:

Ben: like, I'm royalty Moore.

439

:

I, this is my version of a wizard.

440

:

Did it?

441

:

Laura: right.

442

:

right.

443

:

And uh, a lesser show would.

444

:

Acknowledge right away that this

is actually a nightmare and not a

445

:

dream, but, uh, it is a slow burn

446

:

Xhafer: Yeah, we go to theme

survivor count 49, 6 0 5.

447

:

We are up 1,752.

448

:

Laura: Ben just erased the whiteboard

For the listeners who can't see it,

449

:

wrote the

450

:

' Ben: cause I wrote it down too.

451

:

Laura: Yeah, I'm, I'm writing it down from

here on out 'cause I'm just interested

452

:

in the numbers, but I'm not gonna

get super technical with it, I think.

453

:

Xhafer: uh, I did want to talk about

the crew compliments for a minute.

454

:

'cause this is low.

455

:

Um, this is low compared to Galactica.

456

:

Laura: How many does Galactica have on it?

457

:

Do we know

458

:

Xhafer: We do, we know, we actually know

a handful of things about these ships.

459

:

Some of it is from the pilot,

some of it is from video

460

:

games and auxiliary material.

461

:

So we've got two different

classes of Battlestar, right?

462

:

Galactica is the old school

Jupiter class from the first war.

463

:

The Pegasus is a Mercury class.

464

:

Uh, this is the difference

between a constitution and a

465

:

galaxy for you Star Trek nerds.

466

:

Laura: Okay.

467

:

All

468

:

right.

469

:

Xhafer: so, the Jupiter class

has a full crew compliment.

470

:

During the first silent war would've

been staffed by 5,000 people.

471

:

Laura: Okay.

472

:

Xhafer: that's crew officers Marines.

473

:

a normal one at the time of the attack

would've been staffed with 3,500 people.

474

:

Galactica was at 2,400 since it

was about to become a museum.

475

:

It was bare bones.

476

:

So Galactica takes almost 2000

people to just run it as a ship.

477

:

Laura: okay.

478

:

Xhafer: The uh, mercury class here is

400 meters longer, 200 meters wider,

479

:

and 150 meters taller than Galactica.

480

:

Ben: But it's not the size.

481

:

It's how you use it.

482

:

Xhafer: Exactly.

483

:

So much on the Mercury class is

automated that a normal full crew

484

:

compliment for them is about where

Galactica was when the attack happened.

485

:

A normal fully staffed mercury class.

486

:

Battlestar is 2,600 people.

487

:

Laura: Are the computers networked?

488

:

Xhafer: There are networked computers.

489

:

Yes.

490

:

Ben: Oh, blasphemy.

491

:

Laura: hmm.

492

:

Xhafer: we find out, not on the ship,

because they had taken out the network

493

:

in order to facilitate the upgrades

that were coming as part of the refit.

494

:

So that's something that

495

:

Laura: Oh, that's right.

496

:

That's right.

497

:

Xhafer: later in the episode.

498

:

Ben: And that's the only

reason they're still alive,

499

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

500

:

Yeah.

501

:

So the Pegasus is a much larger ship.

502

:

I would say it's probably, Galactica is

maybe two thirds the size of Pegasus.

503

:

But it is also a lot less

people comparatively.

504

:

Ben: but it does have

10 squadrons of vipers

505

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

506

:

Laura: Got a lot of pilots.

507

:

Ben: Galactica

508

:

three.

509

:

Xhafer: they might, it might

be three and fully staffed.

510

:

I think they're at two right now.

511

:

Laura: Hmm.

512

:

That's not good.

513

:

Xhafer: Lots of vipers.

514

:

Ben: sorry.

515

:

I'm sorry, lawyer.

516

:

I was, I was remiss.

517

:

It's got 10 squadrons of Vipers.

518

:

Laura: Oh,

519

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

520

:

There we go.

521

:

Ty Rosalyn and Papa dama

head down to the flight deck.

522

:

As Admiral Kain comes aboard, we

get a little bit about her here.

523

:

Fast tracked young, tough, smart, promoted

ahead of a ton of other commanders.

524

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

525

:

Xhafer: Uh, And then we see people

coming out of the, uh, shuttle.

526

:

It is most of the command

staff for Pegasus.

527

:

I forgot that, uh, Sebastian,

uh, puer was in this show.

528

:

He's a real, that guy of

nineties, two thousands tv.

529

:

He's the pilot who's not the cag,

530

:

uh, walks off the ship.

531

:

He's just a bit part.

532

:

Uh, and then our CAG here is

John Pryor, uh, Folsom, who

533

:

is in two episodes of Viper.

534

:

Along with a ton of other

stuff, not ones we watched.

535

:

Ben: I would've

536

:

Xhafer: I.

537

:

But I, I dug through their IMDBs for fun.

538

:

And so, uh, that, that was fun to see.

539

:

He's been in everything.

540

:

But you probably don't recognize

him because he almost always

541

:

has long hair and a beard

542

:

and he's got short

543

:

Laura: yeah.

544

:

Then Laura doesn't know who he

545

:

is.

546

:

Yeah.

547

:

Xhafer: if you like look him up on IMDB,

you'll instantly know who this guy is.

548

:

I promise he's in a ton of stuff.

549

:

Ben: did it strike you as

weird that she came to them

550

:

Xhafer: Um,

551

:

Ben: from a, like, production, like we're

not building the Pegasus landing strip.

552

:

I understood it, but I was just like,

shouldn't she be like, you guys come here?

553

:

Laura: like militarily, she could

have demanded Adama, you come to

554

:

me, but Adama's got the president.

555

:

Ben: I did appreciate though.

556

:

She comes back and she's just like.

557

:

The Secretary of Education where

she's like, at least smart enough

558

:

to be like, I know who this person

559

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

560

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

561

:

Laura: Yeah.

562

:

She's no Hilo.

563

:

Ben: well, but she didn't have

to be like, who is Rosalyn?

564

:

Like, how is she president?

565

:

And Adama be like, she was

the secretary of education.

566

:

And, and you know, she, he

didn't Adam explain to her?

567

:

She just knew like,

568

:

Laura: She knew the, uh, the

569

:

Xhafer: Fucking Linda McMahon is here.

570

:

Ben: Oh my God.

571

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

572

:

Ben: God.

573

:

Jair.

574

:

Xhafer: oh.

575

:

You thinking about Linda McMahon as

president during an apocalypse right now?

576

:

Ben: Yeah.

577

:

Yeah.

578

:

I am.

579

:

Xhafer: Uh, you shouldn't

think about that.

580

:

Ben: Our children need

to learn about a one.

581

:

Xhafer: Um, she also pulls

Guy Baltar out of the crowd.

582

:

She knows who he is without being

told not as the vice president,

583

:

but as a scientist, like

584

:

he is.

585

:

He's a famous, brilliant person.

586

:

Laura: guys Baltar is, but she

does not seem to like Rosalyn.

587

:

Ben: Would you, if you like,

put yourself in the head space

588

:

of, I've been alone fighting the

CYS for at this point, months.

589

:

And then I find another crew,

another team to help me.

590

:

And also there's a secretary of

education running around claiming

591

:

to be president of the colonies.

592

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

593

:

Laura: I don't know.

594

:

I, I would like to think that I would

meet that with some curiosity, like, huh,

595

:

well they've also made it these months

596

:

Xhafer: Yeah, just them.

597

:

Laura: the, and, and a whole bunch

of civilians, and we somehow,

598

:

we've kept these civilians alive

for a whole bunch of months.

599

:

That's really interesting.

600

:

I think I would meet it with

That's very interesting.

601

:

Xhafer: Lots of ships

602

:

Ben: I, I, I probably would come at

this as a, like, there is no succession,

603

:

there is, there are no colonies.

604

:

Laura: Yeah.

605

:

Ben: You are less than unimportant.

606

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

607

:

She's probably shocked to find

out there's still a quorum.

608

:

Laura: Yeah.

609

:

She's gonna love that.

610

:

Ben: why are you guys

cosplaying as government?

611

:

Uh, this isn't important right now.

612

:

Laura: Oh yeah.

613

:

This Admiral Kane is not gonna be

impressed with all of that, but I'm

614

:

not impressed with Admiral Kane.

615

:

So there we go.

616

:

Ben: But she has a very smart Bob.

617

:

Laura: Yeah.

618

:

But have you seen Rosalyn's Blazers?

619

:

Ben: got the two.

620

:

Xhafer: So yeah, all, all

Pegasus leadership comes over.

621

:

Uh, they're greeted with the fleet

leaders, military and civilian, and

622

:

everyone kind of celebrates after

the decorum of the moment has passed.

623

:

Adam McCain and Roly drink and Adamis

Quarters as the XOs share moonshine.

624

:

This is Graham Beckels, Colonel Jack Fisk.

625

:

Ben: Yes.

626

:

Xhafer: He talks some shit,

but Ty knows he's right.

627

:

Talking about Galactica being

a heap of parts happening

628

:

to fly, fly its way through space

629

:

Ben: It should be hauled away as garbage.

630

:

Xhafer: Oh, I misspoke.

631

:

It is garbage.

632

:

Ben: Yeah.

633

:

Xhafer: Exactly.

634

:

Laura: I love Galactic.

635

:

I don't like him talking

this way about my ship.

636

:

Ben: But when we see Pegasus,

we're like, it is nicer.

637

:

Xhafer: It's a nice big ship.

638

:

Laura: Yeah.

639

:

Okay.

640

:

But sometimes, like we love a

Millennium Falcon, don't we?

641

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

642

:

Ben: Mm-hmm.

643

:

And we do get the, the bit here where

Kane is just like, so I am an admiral,

644

:

so you get to, you gonna gimme any guff?

645

:

And Commander Adama's like, Nope.

646

:

Xhafer: Nope.

647

:

Ben: And she's like, cool.

648

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

649

:

Ben: Also, Billy pulls Laura away

from the meeting and I'm just like.

650

:

What could possibly be more

important at this moment?

651

:

Laura: she's got papers to sign.

652

:

Y'all.

653

:

There's, there's stuff that needs the old

654

:

Ben: that need the corners cut off,

655

:

but it's just like we found

the only other humans alive.

656

:

Cancel the rest of my meetings.

657

:

Billy, shut the fuck up.

658

:

Xhafer: I don't care what Tom Za says

right now, it doesn't fucking matter.

659

:

Laura: I don't know.

660

:

We might need Tom Zarik

here in a little bit.

661

:

I'm worried.

662

:

I'm worried y'all.

663

:

Ben: Oh God.

664

:

Kane would kick Tom Zarik in the

dick and throw him out in airlock.

665

:

Laura: is why Tom Za needs to be faster.

666

:

He needs to be faster and sneakier.

667

:

Ben: I do like, I understand from

a, like a cons writing construction

668

:

wise, we get the bit where she's

just like, alright, I'll tell you a

669

:

little bit about what's happened to

us and you just send me your logs.

670

:

And it's just like, okay, we don't need to

sit here and listen to Adama and Rosalyn

671

:

like recount the last season and a half.

672

:

But it's like you got somewhere

else to be Admiral Kane

673

:

Xhafer: Well, it's also the beauty of

the moment though, because she knows

674

:

that she, she doesn't ask for the logs.

675

:

She tells Adama to send over the logs

because this is the moment where the

676

:

pecking order has been established.

677

:

Laura: Yeah.

678

:

He is having to submit hard.

679

:

Ben: roll over.

680

:

Show me that belly.

681

:

Laura: Yep.

682

:

Xhafer: Rosalyn is shook and leaves.

683

:

Laura: this, this is where Cain

had explained the situation.

684

:

So Pegasus had been dry docked for those

repairs that we were talking about.

685

:

We take, took the computers out.

686

:

Kane said she had just like

cleared out her office or something

687

:

Ben: Yep.

688

:

Laura: The Scorpio shipyard

689

:

gets attacked.

690

:

Five ships were destroyed by nukes,

and they did a blind jump out of there.

691

:

They didn't plot where

692

:

they were going, they Just

693

:

Ben: They also mentioned five ships, three

or two of, or three of them battle stars.

694

:

And I'm just like, how much more

interesting would this show be if there

695

:

was like a smaller different ship tagging

along that was like a colonial destroyer,

696

:

like if we just had a second set.

697

:

Xhafer: Most of the ships that were

in, so they, they're called BS gs,

698

:

they're Battlestar groups, right?

699

:

Ben: Mm-hmm.

700

:

Xhafer: And this is where the

numbers on the hole come from.

701

:

So Galactica is BSG 75.

702

:

It says it underneath Galactica.

703

:

That's Battlestar Group 75.

704

:

So a Battlestar group, because

I read about this when I was

705

:

reading about the other stuff is

706

:

Nah.

707

:

Yeah.

708

:

Is the Battlestar is basically

the aircraft carrier and then they

709

:

typically had a couple of support

ships depending on what was required,

710

:

but they were not full fleets.

711

:

Right.

712

:

So you might have a destroyer with

one, you might have a destroyer

713

:

with a Galactica, you one, but a

Pegasus would probably not have one.

714

:

Um, like, just like uh, in Galactica, they

cannot refine their own fuel on board.

715

:

So they need a fuel refinery ship

that would probably be part of

716

:

a standard flotilla for them.

717

:

Part

718

:

of

719

:

Ben: just thinking it'd be cool.

720

:

'cause I was thinking about like

World War ii, like convoys and stuff.

721

:

Like if every so often we jumped over

to, you know, the, the, the, you know,

722

:

the cruiser that hey, we've got some

guns, but like we can't launch vipers.

723

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

724

:

Laura: Yeah.

725

:

One final thing I love about this scene

is the look on Rosalyn's face when

726

:

she realizes Adama is not in charge.

727

:

Ben: Yeah.

728

:

Xhafer: yeah.

729

:

She's not pleased.

730

:

Laura: I don't like Kane

calling it out, like, fuck that.

731

:

But I do like us getting to see it.

732

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

733

:

Ben: Finding out that it's like, wait,

it's, it's not mommy Laura and Daddy Aaba.

734

:

It's Mommy Kane.

735

:

Xhafer: Hmm hmm.

736

:

Ben: We also find out that at this

point that during our exo drink off

737

:

that they have their owns prisoner.

738

:

Xhafer: Yes.

739

:

We, this is also where we get the

story about Kane killing our previous

740

:

XO that we had already talked about.

741

:

Ben: Yes.

742

:

Laura: except it's jokes.

743

:

Jokes, guys.

744

:

Ha

745

:

Ben: totally, totally, joking

746

:

Xhafer: totally jokes.

747

:

I don't think this story gets confirmed

as true or false until the Razor movie.

748

:

Ben: Yes,

749

:

Xhafer: anyways we get this

super long shot on Adama after

750

:

Kane leaves his quarters.

751

:

I love this shot.

752

:

It's framed perfect, and it's

just adama just like, fuck,

753

:

but also fuck, but also, fuck.

754

:

It's

755

:

Ben: also, yay.

756

:

Xhafer: eh?

757

:

Ben: Like, I don't have

to deal with this shit.

758

:

I can just follow orders now.

759

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

760

:

Laura: I think he's gone too far.

761

:

I don't think he wants to

762

:

Ben: I think he, I, he, he, he has

gotten used to being Daddy Adama.

763

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

764

:

Laura: and I,

765

:

and he hasn't done a bad

job that we can see yet.

766

:

You know, I guess we need more hindsight

to be able to actually assess, but.

767

:

We've, we've had some spectacularly

bad calls by other people.

768

:

His have been like kind of

769

:

Ben: he is made some bad calls.

770

:

Laura: Yeah.

771

:

But

772

:

Xhafer: they get called up in this episode

773

:

later, so

774

:

Ben: We also get Lee getting

chewed out on the flight deck

775

:

because you guys don't tally your

kills bunch of bitches, you know.

776

:

Xhafer: the correct answer is Lee

going, I got 103 last episode.

777

:

Motherfucker,

778

:

Laura: right?

779

:

Xhafer: like, there's not room on my hole.

780

:

Get on

781

:

Ben: Well that's, that's

when you change the color.

782

:

That's what they had to do

for Wedge an Tilly's X-Wing.

783

:

I know, because I read

all of the X-Wing books.

784

:

Laura: sure,

785

:

Ben: I was very popular in high school.

786

:

Laura: Yeah.

787

:

No, I like that this whole thing

started with Starbucks being like, what?

788

:

You guys are gross.

789

:

Why would you do that?

790

:

And then we chew Lee out

for not tracking the kills.

791

:

Like Starbucks has a,

has her head on straight.

792

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

793

:

I mean, this is a pretty common

practice in during most ARB conflicts.

794

:

Laura: Most of the people on Pegasus

have not had the same like interpersonal

795

:

reactions or actions with S that

Starbeck has that maybe make her

796

:

feel a little less cool about that?

797

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

798

:

Anyways, uh, Lee gets called a

Nepo baby during all this too.

799

:

Just wanna point that

800

:

Laura: Oh yeah.

801

:

Mm-hmm.

802

:

Ben: I mean.

803

:

Xhafer: He says it in

such a little shit too.

804

:

He totally deserves to get called out

because he's just all like, last I

805

:

checked, my commander's name is Adama.

806

:

You should remember it

'cause it's the same as mine.

807

:

Laura: Yeah.

808

:

He probably shouldn't

have put it that way.

809

:

He was kind of a bitch about it.

810

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

811

:

Cain and Gais talk in front of Sharon,

who is just completely ignored.

812

:

Gais agrees to come examine

their SI prisoner as six.

813

:

PT is like, wonder who it will

be known enemy, new face, or a

814

:

friend you can no longer trust.

815

:

Ben: man.

816

:

If they walked over to Pegasus

and there wasn't Adam dama there,

817

:

Xhafer: Well then Kane would've shot.

818

:

Adama the

819

:

second she got off the

820

:

Ben: I know.

821

:

It's just been a funny

822

:

Laura: Yeah.

823

:

Xhafer: Like you could do it

with a couple of characters.

824

:

Like, uh, she might not have

like seen like a Tyro or a

825

:

Hilo at that point to know.

826

:

But I don't think you can get

away with the big three, but,

827

:

Laura: You,

828

:

Ben: Captain Kelly.

829

:

Laura: I was, kind of wondering

if it was gonna be our

830

:

journalist from the last reveal,

831

:

Ben: Lucy Lawless.

832

:

Xhafer: yeah.

833

:

Well, as we know, too much stern

brunette in this episode already,

834

:

so No, Lucy Lawless allowed.

835

:

Laura: for sure.

836

:

Xhafer: Ben would've

837

:

exploded.

838

:

Laura: we find out that the

Pegasus Deck chief's name is Laird,

839

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

840

:

Laura: and he makes

841

:

Ben: cool.

842

:

I,

843

:

Xhafer: Well he's like,

what is this thing?

844

:

Right?

845

:

Like, what the fuck guys?

846

:

And then we find out that he's a a

real Leah Brahms type and designed

847

:

the engines that it's using.

848

:

Ben: and he is a civilian.

849

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

850

:

Laura: Yes.

851

:

I wanted to know more, which I, I don't

know if I have to wait till Razor to get

852

:

it, but like, how did we get a civilian?

853

:

Was he at the shipyard?

854

:

Dunno, or was he picked up somewhere else?

855

:

Ben: Yeah, we

856

:

also find out

857

:

Xhafer: me.

858

:

Laura: They, they both made the face guys

859

:

Ben: we also find out that Pegasus is just

resupplying Galactica and nobody else.

860

:

And this is the point where I'm just like,

Hey, Laura, Rosalyn, why didn't you just

861

:

make Adama your Secretary of defense?

862

:

Laura: right.

863

:

Ben: we, we cut this whole chain

of command thing off at the knees.

864

:

'cause she's just got this whole like,

well I kind like you being in charge,

865

:

but I guess we'll see how it goes.

866

:

It's like, you are the president, you

can do a thing to, to cause a thing.

867

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

868

:

Laura: I forgot to say

something about Laird

869

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

870

:

Go for it.

871

:

Laura: and my wondering about Laird.

872

:

I'm not entirely sure he came willingly.

873

:

You know what I mean?

874

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

875

:

Laura: eh

876

:

Ben: Well, I'm just wondering,

like you pick up a guy who just

877

:

happens to be a ship engineer

that feels a little convenient

878

:

Laura: uh oh, is it silent?

879

:

Ben: or is it stupid?

880

:

Xhafer: Do the face.

881

:

Laura: Oh.

882

:

There's the face.

883

:

Xhafer: Uh, Ty catches up with Papa Dama,

uh, with what he learned about Cain.

884

:

He brings up how important

context behind those actions are.

885

:

. I mean,

886

:

Ben: But it, they do get, Adama does

like, Hey we blew up a civilian ship

887

:

with a thousand people on it and like.

888

:

Laura: Allegedly.

889

:

Ben: And like Ty is immediately

like, yeah, but that like

890

:

there were reasons for it.

891

:

It's like, yeah, she doesn't

know That context matters dude.

892

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

893

:

Ben: And Ty's just like,

I don't understand.

894

:

It's like, that is why

you are not Commander.

895

:

Laura: Yeah.

896

:

Poor broken clock tie.

897

:

Sometimes he gets it, but

it's only twice a day.

898

:

Xhafer: uh, GTA's Counterpart brings

over the newest version of Windows

899

:

at the digital cultural library.

900

:

Gada asks about getting

a VPN set up in Texas.

901

:

Ben: Poor Victor.

902

:

Xhafer: it's apor porn joke.

903

:

Yeah.

904

:

Get, get ass if there's any porn in there.

905

:

Ben: I

906

:

Xhafer: it's a

907

:

Ben: poor

908

:

Xhafer: it's a funny scene.

909

:

Yeah.

910

:

Pour one out for Victor,

um, Rosalyn notes.

911

:

Kane is not taking her calls here.

912

:

Ben: Yeah.

913

:

Laura: Don't love that.

914

:

Don't love that.

915

:

Ben: But would you.

916

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

917

:

It's the president.

918

:

I feel like you're kind of

919

:

Ben: Is she?

920

:

Laura: I mean,

921

:

but see, here's the thing.

922

:

Like I, on the Pegasus, if I'm Cain,

I've rolled up with:

923

:

We've said,

924

:

right?

925

:

Ben: Mm-hmm.

926

:

Laura: There were 45,000

people on these ships.

927

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

928

:

Laura: I'm coming to their party.

929

:

I've gotta figure out where I fit.

930

:

And like

931

:

I, they, they seem to have

a thing that's working.

932

:

Like I

933

:

Ben: you've rolled up in

the biggest fanciest ship

934

:

you are pink the party.

935

:

Don't start till you walk in.

936

:

Xhafer: That's, that's Kesha.

937

:

Ben: That is Kesh.

938

:

Wait, what's the pink one?

939

:

Xhafer: I don't know,

940

:

I don't know.

941

:

but but you definitely

quoted the Kesha one.

942

:

Ben: That is Kesha.

943

:

Xhafer: You know, Kesha has a TV

show where that she goes ghost

944

:

hunting called Contra and Kesha.

945

:

Ben: Has she found a ghost?

946

:

Xhafer: I don't, I haven't watched it.

947

:

I, Beth just told me about it the

948

:

' Ben: cause ghosts aren't real.

949

:

Xhafer: Oh, well, yeah.

950

:

I mean, that's an opinion,

Ben, that you have.

951

:

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna

insert myself into that one.

952

:

I know better.

953

:

Balls our heads over to the Pegasus.

954

:

Ben: six.

955

:

This is interesting.

956

:

I want to know your opinions on

this, Laura, because six PT is

957

:

showing up and being real miny

and shitty right up until they see

958

:

who the, the, uh, the prisoner is.

959

:

And then six PT is shook.

960

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

961

:

Crying.

962

:

Yeah.

963

:

Ben: Now if she is just some

six gen generic consciousness.

964

:

Would she be surprised?

965

:

Is she only surprised because she

is part of Baltar psychosis or is

966

:

she a specific six's point of view?

967

:

Who is surprised to see another six

968

:

Laura: If

969

:

Xhafer: has told us who she is.

970

:

She's an angel.

971

:

Those are

972

:

Ben: Hmm.

973

:

Laura: right, right, right.

974

:

But I, I don't believe any of that.

975

:

I don't, I don't know what six is still

but if she is a silent program inside

976

:

Gaia, she's not connected to the cloud.

977

:

Right.

978

:

She had no idea

979

:

Xhafer: She knows

980

:

stuff sometimes

981

:

Laura: here, but she didn't know this.

982

:

Ben: No.

983

:

Laura: She really didn't.

984

:

So

985

:

Xhafer: not.

986

:

Laura: the, the cloud is either

like, not perfect, like things don't

987

:

always upload to the cloud or that

you can become disconnected in waves

988

:

or something, or Maybe it's selective.

989

:

Maybe the six wasn't the, the prisoner

six wasn't uploading to the cloud on

990

:

purpose, to not jeopardize something.

991

:

I don't know,

992

:

Ben: Or I don't wanna remember this, I,

993

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

994

:

Trauma that'll happen.

995

:

Laura: Hmm.

996

:

Ben: but six PT does kind of go like, how

can you justify this torture and assault?

997

:

We only did a genocide.

998

:

It's

999

:

Laura: A light genocide.

:

00:45:19,416 --> 00:45:22,686

Ben: okay, like you ain't

got any moral high ground.

:

00:45:22,716 --> 00:45:24,336

Like this is bad.

:

00:45:25,086 --> 00:45:26,466

Do not get it twisted.

:

00:45:26,826 --> 00:45:30,396

But it's also like you guys

murdered billions of people.

:

00:45:31,491 --> 00:45:31,821

Xhafer: Yeah,

:

00:45:32,016 --> 00:45:32,306

Laura: yeah,

:

00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:33,600

Xhafer: I mean,

:

00:45:34,215 --> 00:45:35,150

Ben: you're both wrong.

:

00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:36,630

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:37,500

It can be two

:

00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:38,040

things.

:

00:45:38,465 --> 00:45:38,755

yeah.

:

00:45:39,484 --> 00:45:44,584

Xhafer: Um, so anyways, this is

a incredibly abused six model.

:

00:45:45,064 --> 00:45:48,814

I'm gonna, I spoiled it for Laura

already, that, uh, this, this is

:

00:45:48,814 --> 00:45:51,094

Gina, is this character's name.

:

00:45:51,154 --> 00:45:55,084

We don't get it this episode, but for the

sake of talking about two sixes in the

:

00:45:55,084 --> 00:46:00,934

same room where, and being a audio format

instead of a video format where we can

:

00:46:00,934 --> 00:46:03,304

see which one we're talking about clearly.

:

00:46:03,884 --> 00:46:06,674

For the sake of context, I've ruined it.

:

00:46:07,169 --> 00:46:07,889

Uh, so

:

00:46:08,579 --> 00:46:08,789

yeah.

:

00:46:08,984 --> 00:46:10,994

Ben: If we're gonna talk about

context, I need to get my crown.

:

00:46:11,609 --> 00:46:13,349

Xhafer: Yeah, that's fair.

:

00:46:14,126 --> 00:46:14,186

Hmm.

:

00:46:14,291 --> 00:46:17,861

Laura: it seems like it could be a thing

coming up that when we meet different

:

00:46:17,861 --> 00:46:21,071

six models, they all have different

names, which would be interesting.

:

00:46:21,701 --> 00:46:22,151

Xhafer: I mean,

:

00:46:23,081 --> 00:46:25,031

Laura: Oh, Ben's actually

going to get his crown.

:

00:46:25,691 --> 00:46:26,111

Okay.

:

00:46:26,831 --> 00:46:29,141

I don't know how you're gonna

put headphones on with Okay.

:

00:46:29,141 --> 00:46:29,861

behind your head.

:

00:46:29,861 --> 00:46:30,401

Okay, good.

:

00:46:33,460 --> 00:46:34,090

Ben: I've got one.

:

00:46:34,090 --> 00:46:34,720

I have to wear it.

:

00:46:35,492 --> 00:46:38,492

Laura: There's not enough opportunities

to wear a crown in daily life.

:

00:46:38,492 --> 00:46:40,472

It's just really unfortunate.

:

00:46:40,907 --> 00:46:41,357

Ben: It's true.

:

00:46:41,828 --> 00:46:46,658

But, uh, we do get baltar here

going like, Hey, she's catatonic.

:

00:46:47,468 --> 00:46:50,198

This implies that there

is a psyche to break.

:

00:46:51,248 --> 00:46:52,628

Which I, which is interesting.

:

00:46:52,628 --> 00:46:58,658

It's like you, you would imagine like

if I was designing a brain, you'd make

:

00:46:58,658 --> 00:47:02,768

it be able to like compartmentalize

and like realize, hey, the only person

:

00:47:02,768 --> 00:47:04,418

in here is a dweeb, be scientist.

:

00:47:04,568 --> 00:47:07,118

Snap his neck and go

out the door, you know?

:

00:47:09,053 --> 00:47:09,443

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:09,593 --> 00:47:09,773

Yeah.

:

00:47:09,773 --> 00:47:10,133

Yeah.

:

00:47:10,433 --> 00:47:12,023

I sure hope in this scene.

:

00:47:12,383 --> 00:47:19,373

That Pegasus doesn't have those CCTVs

and is like taping guy Balter because we

:

00:47:19,373 --> 00:47:25,553

have a whole moment where he takes six

PT aside and is like holding her hands.

:

00:47:25,973 --> 00:47:31,973

And you know, she's very distraught

and explaining like, I have to do this.

:

00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:34,283

You probably need to go away.

:

00:47:34,523 --> 00:47:37,853

It's really upsetting you,

but I have to help her.

:

00:47:38,183 --> 00:47:42,353

And it's like, that would

look so fucking bonkers.

:

00:47:42,353 --> 00:47:46,253

I mean, there's guards outside who should

presumably be watching them, watching him

:

00:47:46,253 --> 00:47:46,673

be so

:

00:47:46,888 --> 00:47:48,408

Ben: not used to him being a weirdo.

:

00:47:49,703 --> 00:47:54,173

Xhafer: neither is Cain who like catches

him talking to other people a bunch

:

00:47:54,383 --> 00:47:56,693

and is clearly not used to it yet.

:

00:47:56,978 --> 00:48:00,758

And reacts very differently than

every other character in the show.

:

00:48:00,998 --> 00:48:03,458

Everyone else at this point is

just all like, yeah, whatever.

:

00:48:03,458 --> 00:48:05,348

Gaius talks to himself, we know.

:

00:48:05,528 --> 00:48:08,018

She's all like, who the

fuck are you talking to?

:

00:48:08,838 --> 00:48:09,258

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:10,013 --> 00:48:11,093

I do like that.

:

00:48:11,288 --> 00:48:16,448

Ben: but she can't get a a, a

like CCT TV thing of like six PT.

:

00:48:16,568 --> 00:48:20,078

It's too expensive to have you in the

foreground and background right now.

:

00:48:20,078 --> 00:48:21,428

So you need to go away.

:

00:48:22,268 --> 00:48:23,768

Laura: We can only have one of you.

:

00:48:23,768 --> 00:48:25,478

That's all we can afford right now.

:

00:48:27,523 --> 00:48:27,813

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:48:28,248 --> 00:48:32,658

So bringing up the psychological

healing, he gets caned to agree to

:

00:48:32,658 --> 00:48:35,868

food, bathing clothes, the basics.

:

00:48:36,113 --> 00:48:36,533

Ben: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:36,858 --> 00:48:37,098

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:48:37,548 --> 00:48:38,868

He says Too much stick.

:

00:48:38,868 --> 00:48:39,768

Not enough carrot.

:

00:48:39,858 --> 00:48:40,248

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:48:41,328 --> 00:48:44,868

Meanwhile, Adama is checking

out Kane's gun collection as she

:

00:48:44,868 --> 00:48:46,668

starts talking recent history

:

00:48:47,073 --> 00:48:47,293

Ben: and,

:

00:48:47,413 --> 00:48:49,818

I was curious, Jair, do you

have a rant about this room

:

00:48:50,494 --> 00:48:51,064

Xhafer: I mean.

:

00:48:52,009 --> 00:48:52,159

A

:

00:48:52,219 --> 00:48:54,379

Ben: because you had a whole

rant about sailing ships.

:

00:48:54,409 --> 00:48:56,989

Shouldn't you also have a

rant about Flintlock Pistols?

:

00:48:57,499 --> 00:48:57,799

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:48:57,859 --> 00:49:00,409

No, Ben, it had definitely occurred to me.

:

00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:06,019

Don't get me wrong, that a flintlock

pistol is possibly more out of

:

00:49:06,019 --> 00:49:07,789

place than the wooden sailing ship.

:

00:49:08,749 --> 00:49:10,934

Why would you have a flintlock pistol?

:

00:49:11,084 --> 00:49:13,424

I, that makes absolutely no sense.

:

00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:15,404

Uh, this was not lost on me.

:

00:49:15,774 --> 00:49:16,344

For sure.

:

00:49:16,344 --> 00:49:20,844

I avoided the rant because it was

going to just be a copy paste of the

:

00:49:20,844 --> 00:49:22,704

one I did a couple of episodes ago.

:

00:49:22,789 --> 00:49:25,559

Ben: Just remove boat, add Flintlock,

:

00:49:25,739 --> 00:49:26,029

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:49:26,124 --> 00:49:27,534

Aaron, actually, can you just

:

00:49:27,534 --> 00:49:34,434

copy paste my, my old rant and

just whenever I say boat, just

:

00:49:34,434 --> 00:49:36,294

replace it with the word gun.

:

00:49:36,624 --> 00:49:37,554

That would be great.

:

00:49:37,554 --> 00:49:37,944

Thanks.

:

00:49:37,944 --> 00:49:39,984

I'm sure that's not a

lot of that work for you.

:

00:49:41,399 --> 00:49:42,444

Laura: The, the gun.

:

00:49:42,744 --> 00:49:47,124

I can almost make a little devil's

advocate argument of like, perhaps

:

00:49:47,124 --> 00:49:49,554

we had artifacts we fled COBOL with,

:

00:49:49,974 --> 00:49:53,049

Ben: well, but it's also at that

point, they would've had writing and.

:

00:49:53,754 --> 00:49:54,144

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:49:55,044 --> 00:49:55,674

Ben: and stuff.

:

00:49:56,137 --> 00:49:59,797

Laura: But I, I'm saying like if you

fled COBOL with these artifacts and

:

00:49:59,797 --> 00:50:02,767

then they just kind of hung around like,

:

00:50:03,337 --> 00:50:04,507

Xhafer: Just:

:

00:50:04,597 --> 00:50:05,437

Laura: they're like, expense.

:

00:50:05,437 --> 00:50:09,907

This is like her showing off like, I

am well compensated enough to afford

:

00:50:09,907 --> 00:50:12,427

one of the artifact flintlock pistols.

:

00:50:13,327 --> 00:50:13,867

Like,

:

00:50:13,957 --> 00:50:17,557

Xhafer: would think anything you

brought from COBOL is in a museum,

:

00:50:18,165 --> 00:50:19,665

Ben: You haven't met enough rich people.

:

00:50:20,025 --> 00:50:20,715

Xhafer: that's fair.

:

00:50:21,345 --> 00:50:22,065

Um,

:

00:50:23,565 --> 00:50:24,975

Ben: Cage had a dinosaur head.

:

00:50:26,198 --> 00:50:26,888

Laura: I believe that.

:

00:50:27,083 --> 00:50:27,463

Ben: He did?

:

00:50:27,463 --> 00:50:28,778

He had a T-Rex skull.

:

00:50:29,153 --> 00:50:29,513

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:50:30,091 --> 00:50:33,571

Also like it's a bunch of guns

that are just like sitting in

:

00:50:33,571 --> 00:50:37,741

like velvet boxes that are not

glass enclosed, which bothers me.

:

00:50:38,626 --> 00:50:39,556

Ben: Oh, in a spaceship.

:

00:50:39,556 --> 00:50:40,036

Yeah.

:

00:50:40,471 --> 00:50:40,981

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:50:41,596 --> 00:50:44,086

Ben: soon as you get a banger dropped

on, you're just like, oh my shit.

:

00:50:44,656 --> 00:50:44,946

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:50:45,136 --> 00:50:45,426

It's,

:

00:50:45,606 --> 00:50:45,956

Laura: Right?

:

00:50:46,831 --> 00:50:50,971

Xhafer: you need to lock every compartment

for when you lose stabilization.

:

00:50:51,631 --> 00:50:56,611

Like it's like, you gotta remember,

have you ever like ridden in an RV

:

00:50:57,211 --> 00:50:57,661

Ben: Mm-hmm.

:

00:50:57,661 --> 00:50:58,471

Xhafer: or a boat

:

00:50:59,131 --> 00:51:03,421

and just imagine all of those closed

cabinets that we're holding everything.

:

00:51:03,601 --> 00:51:06,601

Just open all of them before your trip.

:

00:51:08,251 --> 00:51:09,511

That's what this is like.

:

00:51:10,801 --> 00:51:12,811

Ben: We also get a fun moment

where she's just like, alright,

:

00:51:12,811 --> 00:51:13,741

I found this cool place.

:

00:51:13,741 --> 00:51:16,561

We're gonna do a strike and

Adama's just like a strike.

:

00:51:16,741 --> 00:51:17,581

Hell yeah.

:

00:51:17,581 --> 00:51:20,041

And she's like, oh, you're down.

:

00:51:20,251 --> 00:51:23,161

I was, I was getting ready to

be like, Hey, you have to stop

:

00:51:23,371 --> 00:51:27,126

babysitting all these, these, you

know, these pathetic, civilians

:

00:51:27,126 --> 00:51:28,656

and, you know, do an attack with me.

:

00:51:28,776 --> 00:51:30,036

He's like, no man.

:

00:51:30,036 --> 00:51:32,466

I'm totally down to

shoot up some cylon shit.

:

00:51:33,711 --> 00:51:34,941

Xhafer: Fuck them Toasters.

:

00:51:35,031 --> 00:51:36,111

Let's do this.

:

00:51:36,756 --> 00:51:37,026

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:51:37,026 --> 00:51:37,506

Yeah.

:

00:51:37,566 --> 00:51:38,196

So.

:

00:51:38,541 --> 00:51:41,091

He gets to coordinate the plans.

:

00:51:41,141 --> 00:51:45,611

But surprise, we have some

personnel reassignments,

:

00:51:46,301 --> 00:51:47,081

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:51:47,276 --> 00:51:51,086

Ben: And she's like, Hey, your

son, he's done a lot of treason.

:

00:51:52,841 --> 00:51:53,591

Xhafer: Not wrong.

:

00:51:54,196 --> 00:51:54,486

Laura: yeah,

:

00:51:56,756 --> 00:52:00,056

Ben: He's like, she,

he's done treason twice.

:

00:52:00,766 --> 00:52:01,056

Laura: kids.

:

00:52:01,236 --> 00:52:02,016

Am I right?

:

00:52:05,321 --> 00:52:05,591

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:52:05,591 --> 00:52:06,701

Starbucks too.

:

00:52:07,001 --> 00:52:10,781

She's, she's moving Hilo and

Ty, we're gonna watch out for

:

00:52:10,781 --> 00:52:13,601

them, but for the purposes of the

plot, I'm not moving them yet.

:

00:52:14,461 --> 00:52:14,881

Ben: mm-hmm.

:

00:52:15,341 --> 00:52:17,231

And adama's just like, I don't agree.

:

00:52:17,231 --> 00:52:19,451

And she's just like, too bad, so sad.

:

00:52:20,651 --> 00:52:21,791

Let me know when you're an admiral.

:

00:52:22,646 --> 00:52:28,376

Laura: And when, when Papa Dama

has to go tell Lee and Uck, I

:

00:52:28,376 --> 00:52:30,386

mean, this is family right here.

:

00:52:30,386 --> 00:52:32,396

They, they're like, dad, no,

:

00:52:32,626 --> 00:52:36,311

Ben: And Daddy, daddy, I don't want

to go to the other Battlestar Daddy.

:

00:52:36,791 --> 00:52:38,111

You can't make me go daddy.

:

00:52:38,111 --> 00:52:38,531

It's like.

:

00:52:39,386 --> 00:52:40,466

Where do you think you work?

:

00:52:40,766 --> 00:52:41,666

Laura: Hmm.

:

00:52:42,176 --> 00:52:43,046

Yeah.

:

00:52:43,766 --> 00:52:44,576

Yeah.

:

00:52:44,846 --> 00:52:45,446

Xhafer: Ready?

:

00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:50,885

Laura: And then we get to see how well

Starbuck actually fits into a real

:

00:52:50,885 --> 00:52:56,255

Battlestar chain of command as the

Pegasus CG starts explaining their photo

:

00:52:56,255 --> 00:52:59,382

recon mission, and she has thoughts.

:

00:53:01,372 --> 00:53:03,232

Xhafer: Yeah, she talks a bunch of shit.

:

00:53:03,892 --> 00:53:05,242

Uh, it gets threatened with the Bri.

:

00:53:10,201 --> 00:53:10,321

Ben: Yeah.

:

00:53:10,326 --> 00:53:13,021

The CAG is like a talking a

lot of shit for somebody who's

:

00:53:13,141 --> 00:53:14,461

not going on this mission.

:

00:53:14,461 --> 00:53:15,631

She's like, what?

:

00:53:15,871 --> 00:53:16,741

She's like, I don't care.

:

00:53:17,431 --> 00:53:18,451

You can stay the fuck home.

:

00:53:19,126 --> 00:53:19,576

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:53:20,146 --> 00:53:26,056

Lee and Starbuck make a quick plan to do

the recon mission in the Blackbird instead

:

00:53:27,166 --> 00:53:28,906

Laura: and this is just wild to me.

:

00:53:28,906 --> 00:53:32,536

Like how does she just like

get off Pegasus and go get the

:

00:53:32,536 --> 00:53:34,786

Blackbird, but don't worry about it.

:

00:53:36,736 --> 00:53:38,506

Xhafer: the actual Ron Moore Wizard.

:

00:53:38,806 --> 00:53:40,366

Magic of the episode.

:

00:53:41,336 --> 00:53:41,996

Starbuck

:

00:53:41,996 --> 00:53:44,996

leaving a military installation in space.

:

00:53:45,371 --> 00:53:47,531

Ben: yeah, we find out like,

Hey, where'd the blackbird go?

:

00:53:47,681 --> 00:53:48,941

Oh, Lieutenant threes took it.

:

00:53:48,941 --> 00:53:50,201

It's like how

:

00:53:52,376 --> 00:53:53,216

Laura: Exactly.

:

00:53:53,396 --> 00:53:57,236

And literally we just cut from them

deciding she's gonna go get the Black

:

00:53:57,296 --> 00:54:01,226

Blackbird and do it anyway to Tyre

going, Hey, where's the Blackbird?

:

00:54:01,811 --> 00:54:04,211

Ben: yeah, it's, it'd be like

Ja fair if you called me up and

:

00:54:04,211 --> 00:54:05,291

like, Hey Ben, can you pick me up?

:

00:54:05,291 --> 00:54:07,601

And I'm like, why Laura borrowed my car?

:

00:54:08,531 --> 00:54:09,251

How?

:

00:54:12,811 --> 00:54:14,251

Xhafer: I missed a couple of steps.

:

00:54:14,771 --> 00:54:15,431

Ben: Yes.

:

00:54:15,806 --> 00:54:19,466

Laura: Yeah, but we don't have

time to think about that because

:

00:54:19,466 --> 00:54:23,216

we have the Pegasus crewmen getting

their booze and getting rowdy.

:

00:54:23,216 --> 00:54:26,006

Presumably Pegasus does

not have a still, right?

:

00:54:26,366 --> 00:54:27,386

Ben: It seems like not.

:

00:54:27,929 --> 00:54:29,699

I don't think Kane would be down.

:

00:54:30,389 --> 00:54:30,719

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:54:30,969 --> 00:54:32,619

They start joking

:

00:54:32,979 --> 00:54:33,639

about

:

00:54:33,909 --> 00:54:39,009

Cylon rape and Terl to his

credit, does try to tell them to

:

00:54:39,009 --> 00:54:41,409

shut up politely at this point.

:

00:54:41,529 --> 00:54:43,599

Ben: These guys cannot read a room.

:

00:54:43,959 --> 00:54:44,559

Laura: No.

:

00:54:45,129 --> 00:54:45,549

Nope.

:

00:54:46,465 --> 00:54:50,965

I mean, they don't know about

any of the details of Sharon.

:

00:54:50,965 --> 00:54:51,565

Right.

:

00:54:51,870 --> 00:54:59,275

Ben: but it's also like they are on

Galactica and everybody on Galactica.

:

00:54:59,665 --> 00:55:02,395

Even Callie who shot Boomer

:

00:55:03,284 --> 00:55:05,264

is Just like, Hey, fuck you.

:

00:55:05,864 --> 00:55:06,224

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:55:06,914 --> 00:55:09,014

Ben: Like you are in hostile territory.

:

00:55:09,014 --> 00:55:12,511

This is like, They are surrounded

by like a dozen people who now

:

00:55:12,511 --> 00:55:14,401

like, want to kick their ass.

:

00:55:15,421 --> 00:55:17,161

This is the sort of thing you pick up on.

:

00:55:18,721 --> 00:55:19,081

Laura: yeah.

:

00:55:19,471 --> 00:55:21,961

No, they've, they haven't

had booze in too long.

:

00:55:22,051 --> 00:55:25,441

They're, they're being

clouded by that shine.

:

00:55:25,728 --> 00:55:26,268

Ben: Oh, don't worry.

:

00:55:26,268 --> 00:55:28,818

Lieutenant Thorn Will,

will rougher up just right.

:

00:55:28,818 --> 00:55:34,608

And it's like, okay, we, our bad,

our, our Pegasus crew are Cane

:

00:55:34,698 --> 00:55:40,898

Fisk and Thorn and it's just like

nobody has a not bad guy name.

:

00:55:42,218 --> 00:55:42,338

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:55:42,338 --> 00:55:43,808

These are all very aggressive

:

00:55:44,078 --> 00:55:47,468

Ben: Like if you told me like, and

Spider-Man showed up and beat up Kane

:

00:55:47,468 --> 00:55:49,508

Fis and Thorn, I'd be like, yeah.

:

00:55:49,673 --> 00:55:49,973

Xhafer: yeah.

:

00:55:49,973 --> 00:55:51,923

That, that, that happens.

:

00:55:52,737 --> 00:55:59,217

Ben: so we get Thorn going into

interview slash Abu abuse Boomer,

:

00:55:59,247 --> 00:56:00,657

or not Boomer, uh, Sharon.

:

00:56:01,527 --> 00:56:03,267

And he's just like, what is this ship?

:

00:56:03,267 --> 00:56:04,407

And she's like, I don't know.

:

00:56:04,827 --> 00:56:09,477

And he immediately goes to, and now

I will sexually assault you until

:

00:56:09,477 --> 00:56:10,947

you tell me what I want to know.

:

00:56:11,007 --> 00:56:14,367

And it's just like, where

are the Galactica guards?

:

00:56:14,728 --> 00:56:15,238

Laura: yeah.

:

00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,990

' Uh, presumably they're like

outside the room going, what?

:

00:56:19,521 --> 00:56:22,221

, But like, chain of commanded into silence,

:

00:56:22,371 --> 00:56:23,841

Ben: but it's like he's a lieutenant.

:

00:56:23,841 --> 00:56:27,081

Like I have to imagine there

is a captain of the guard

:

00:56:27,081 --> 00:56:29,481

somewhere who could be like, no.

:

00:56:30,351 --> 00:56:32,781

Laura: Somebody pick up

that phone and call him.

:

00:56:33,021 --> 00:56:35,391

They've gotta have a

phone in that room, right?

:

00:56:36,051 --> 00:56:39,861

Ben: Where's the sergeant in

arms to be like, Hey, don't, um,

:

00:56:40,123 --> 00:56:46,273

Laura: This is absolutely wild,

and I just can't get behind.

:

00:56:46,273 --> 00:56:50,951

Kane can't, cannot, like to allow this.

:

00:56:51,816 --> 00:56:53,651

I, I just, I, I can't.

:

00:56:54,386 --> 00:56:54,836

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:56:55,286 --> 00:56:55,736

There's more

:

00:56:55,736 --> 00:56:55,976

to

:

00:56:55,976 --> 00:56:56,196

Ben: bad.

:

00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,610

Xhafer: I'm not, I'm not

justifying her at all, to be clear.

:

00:56:59,940 --> 00:57:02,475

I'm just, I'm just noting

that you will learn more.

:

00:57:03,615 --> 00:57:03,945

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:57:04,215 --> 00:57:08,145

Well, they did tell us one thing about the

six was that she had killed seven of their

:

00:57:08,145 --> 00:57:08,715

men,

:

00:57:08,795 --> 00:57:09,085

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:57:09,945 --> 00:57:10,335

Laura: but.

:

00:57:11,830 --> 00:57:14,925

Ben: That is also one thing where

it's just like, sometimes it's

:

00:57:14,925 --> 00:57:19,575

inconsistent where it's just like,

why is Sharon letting him beat her up?

:

00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:23,970

Like, I understand she's surprised and

shocked, but it's also like, where's

:

00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:29,010

the crazy cylon strength that like,

lets six rip the, or bin, rip the

:

00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:32,293

table lo uh, off of its bolts, you

:

00:57:32,448 --> 00:57:32,868

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

:

00:57:33,583 --> 00:57:35,983

Laura: Have we ever seen that

kind of strength from a Sharon?

:

00:57:36,793 --> 00:57:38,263

Trying to, trying to remember.

:

00:57:39,193 --> 00:57:40,783

Ben: I don't know.

:

00:57:41,528 --> 00:57:42,383

Laura: We've seen it from a

:

00:57:43,148 --> 00:57:43,538

Ben: Yeah.

:

00:57:44,168 --> 00:57:46,538

Oh, when she like fought with Starbucks,

:

00:57:46,538 --> 00:57:49,661

like she, you know, was

kicking the crap outta him.

:

00:57:49,661 --> 00:57:54,041

It's just like, why can't Sharon like

mule kick this guy through a window?

:

00:57:54,136 --> 00:57:54,426

Laura: Yeah,

:

00:57:54,776 --> 00:57:58,346

Xhafer: I mean, she's going through a lot,

:

00:57:59,276 --> 00:58:01,076

so Yeah.

:

00:58:02,536 --> 00:58:02,656

Laura: Hmm.

:

00:58:03,461 --> 00:58:06,821

Ben: This is not me trying to be like,

well, why didn't she defend herself?

:

00:58:06,821 --> 00:58:07,091

It's just

:

00:58:07,091 --> 00:58:08,411

like, Hey, the writing's

:

00:58:08,456 --> 00:58:10,586

Xhafer: yeah, no, that's, I don't think

:

00:58:10,661 --> 00:58:13,421

Laura: but I, I'm wondering if,

if we've ever seen a Sharon behave

:

00:58:13,421 --> 00:58:17,741

this way, if there's some sort

of problem with the Sharon model.

:

00:58:18,566 --> 00:58:19,136

Xhafer: I think

:

00:58:19,151 --> 00:58:22,091

Laura: mean, 'cause they've kind of

implied to us that there might be problems

:

00:58:22,091 --> 00:58:24,941

with the Sharon model, like inconsistent.

:

00:58:24,941 --> 00:58:28,151

Like it, it, she didn't follow

her orders Boomer right away.

:

00:58:28,151 --> 00:58:30,251

She was like trying to fight

her programming and stuff.

:

00:58:30,251 --> 00:58:33,971

And, but it's the six I wonder

a little more about, 'cause it's

:

00:58:33,971 --> 00:58:35,981

like, well, she killed seven men.

:

00:58:36,431 --> 00:58:41,276

How exactly did they subdue that, that

cy strength in order for that to happen?

:

00:58:41,681 --> 00:58:43,634

But yeah.

:

00:58:43,634 --> 00:58:43,694

Yeah.

:

00:58:44,339 --> 00:58:46,799

Xhafer: Tero and Hilo realize

what's about to happen here.

:

00:58:47,849 --> 00:58:51,119

They run down to try and stop it.

:

00:58:51,449 --> 00:58:56,009

In the process they accidentally

kill Thorn, uh, they put his

:

00:58:56,009 --> 00:58:58,289

head into a bolt sticking out

:

00:58:58,304 --> 00:59:04,334

Ben: Which is on the inside of the cell,

which implies that the person inside

:

00:59:04,334 --> 00:59:05,654

the cell could disassemble the cell.

:

00:59:06,794 --> 00:59:07,094

Laura: Oh

:

00:59:07,274 --> 00:59:09,164

Ben: It's bad cell design.

:

00:59:09,869 --> 00:59:09,929

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:59:09,929 --> 00:59:11,309

Bad prison design for sure.

:

00:59:11,751 --> 00:59:11,901

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:16,569

Ben: but then we have our bit here where

it's like, Hey, one of your guys is dead.

:

00:59:16,930 --> 00:59:23,200

and there's a very terse call

between Cain and Adama where

:

00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,670

he's like, they need a trial.

:

00:59:24,670 --> 00:59:26,650

And she's like, you ignore trials.

:

00:59:26,650 --> 00:59:27,790

What are you talking about?

:

00:59:27,850 --> 00:59:30,700

And he's like, you aren't

supposed to use my own history

:

00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:31,510

against me,

:

00:59:32,650 --> 00:59:35,650

Laura: Right, She says the last

time you had an independent trial,

:

00:59:35,650 --> 00:59:38,140

you, uh, disbanded it when it

:

00:59:38,290 --> 00:59:39,760

wasn't doing what you liked.

:

00:59:40,413 --> 00:59:45,063

Xhafer: Uh, we cut over to Baltar who

brings Gina some apples and toast?

:

00:59:46,078 --> 00:59:46,648

Um,

:

00:59:47,038 --> 00:59:49,858

Ben: is crying as she,

as she eats this fruit.

:

00:59:50,758 --> 00:59:50,998

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:59:50,998 --> 00:59:59,188

He tells her who he is and why she is

familiar and vis-a-vis important to him.

:

01:00:00,028 --> 01:00:06,373

Laura: And again, really, really hope

that this room is not bugged on guys

:

01:00:06,373 --> 01:00:12,793

Baltar's behalf, because again, this is

gonna be really weird and suspicious.

:

01:00:12,898 --> 01:00:16,528

Xhafer: I mean, at that point you're just

like, I'm just fucking lying to the cy.

:

01:00:17,158 --> 01:00:17,488

Why?

:

01:00:17,518 --> 01:00:17,848

Why?

:

01:00:18,268 --> 01:00:19,288

Why would you think that?

:

01:00:20,188 --> 01:00:21,118

Anything else?

:

01:00:21,568 --> 01:00:27,478

I feel like at a certain point you get

so ridiculous that it's all like, yeah,

:

01:00:27,478 --> 01:00:32,818

I'm just gonna, you know, casually talk

about my love affair with a asylum in

:

01:00:32,818 --> 01:00:36,508

the Ministry of Defense or whatever

before the, right, before the attack.

:

01:00:36,868 --> 01:00:37,288

Like,

:

01:00:37,648 --> 01:00:38,038

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:39,190

Yeah.

:

01:00:39,310 --> 01:00:39,730

Xhafer: yeah.

:

01:00:39,790 --> 01:00:40,090

Laura: know.

:

01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:43,570

This gets you on some kind of a

watch list, even if you say I'm

:

01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:48,760

lying to the silent, like somebody's

gonna tap your phone in your cabin.

:

01:00:50,620 --> 01:00:53,740

Xhafer: Lee is out on his mission,

and man, Pegasus kegs suck.

:

01:00:54,445 --> 01:00:56,212

Laura: Yeah, he really does.

:

01:00:56,452 --> 01:01:00,052

Xhafer: Kelly's waiting outside of

Papa's office for news on Tiro and

:

01:01:00,052 --> 01:01:04,762

before he can make it down the hall,

the court martial is over guilty

:

01:01:04,972 --> 01:01:06,982

execution for murder and treason.

:

01:01:07,612 --> 01:01:09,562

Ben: I mean, they did do it.

:

01:01:10,522 --> 01:01:14,572

Xhafer: They got like three Marines

right there who were on all testify

:

01:01:14,632 --> 01:01:15,817

that that's exactly what happened.

:

01:01:16,852 --> 01:01:17,272

Ben: Yeah.

:

01:01:17,692 --> 01:01:23,152

We were interrogating the Robit and they

got mad and killed Lieutenant Thorn.

:

01:01:24,142 --> 01:01:25,402

Did you not kill Lieutenant Thorn?

:

01:01:25,402 --> 01:01:25,822

We did.

:

01:01:25,822 --> 01:01:26,572

It was an accident.

:

01:01:26,662 --> 01:01:28,552

Did you, you still

killed him though, right?

:

01:01:28,792 --> 01:01:30,322

Yeah, treason.

:

01:01:30,978 --> 01:01:31,428

Laura: Yeah,

:

01:01:31,818 --> 01:01:33,318

Ben: You killed a Huon for a robit.

:

01:01:34,403 --> 01:01:34,623

Xhafer: Yep.

:

01:01:35,209 --> 01:01:38,629

Laura: for some reason, and I don't

know if it was something about when

:

01:01:38,629 --> 01:01:43,669

Cali runs to Papa dama and is trying

to appeal to him, I wrote at the end

:

01:01:43,669 --> 01:01:45,589

of this, Cali is a fucking problem.

:

01:01:46,609 --> 01:01:49,729

have a feeling that Cali is a problem.

:

01:01:50,479 --> 01:01:52,129

Like, oh, here comes the face.

:

01:01:54,694 --> 01:01:55,684

Xhafer: Just you wait.

:

01:01:56,869 --> 01:02:00,199

Laura: She, I think this is the

second or third time now that she's

:

01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:06,499

like, run to Papa dama and put on

her baddest eyelashes and like,

:

01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:10,129

please, please help me Papa dama.

:

01:02:10,129 --> 01:02:11,389

And I'm just like, I don't know.

:

01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:12,679

love it.

:

01:02:13,864 --> 01:02:15,334

I don't love it.

:

01:02:17,044 --> 01:02:19,009

Xhafer: Well, well, I'm

not gonna touch this.

:

01:02:21,934 --> 01:02:24,874

Ben: Laura, how much

do you know about N xm?

:

01:02:26,579 --> 01:02:29,163

Xhafer: no, we do not

need to talk about that

:

01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:32,434

Laura: was this, was this the

actress who was involved with that?

:

01:02:32,494 --> 01:02:32,884

Ben: Yes.

:

01:02:33,754 --> 01:02:34,654

Laura: Oh

:

01:02:34,714 --> 01:02:35,824

Ben: Was a fucking problem.

:

01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:37,864

Xhafer: yeah.

:

01:02:37,894 --> 01:02:38,404

Laura: yeah.

:

01:02:40,924 --> 01:02:42,064

That's a different day.

:

01:02:42,484 --> 01:02:43,654

We'll, we'll cover

:

01:02:43,714 --> 01:02:44,254

Xhafer: there.

:

01:02:44,764 --> 01:02:46,384

Grace Park was in there.

:

01:02:47,675 --> 01:02:47,915

Laura: No.

:

01:02:50,140 --> 01:02:51,455

Oh gosh.

:

01:02:52,010 --> 01:02:56,780

Xhafer: I mean, she's since been

cleared of everything and is a

:

01:02:56,780 --> 01:03:03,770

victim, and I think, I don't know

if Callie's in jail still, Callie

:

01:03:03,935 --> 01:03:04,565

Laura: Still.

:

01:03:04,730 --> 01:03:05,360

Xhafer: a while,

:

01:03:05,705 --> 01:03:06,155

Laura: Okay.

:

01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,690

Xhafer: for being more active on

the recruiting side of the human

:

01:03:11,690 --> 01:03:13,415

trafficking part of that operation.

:

01:03:15,195 --> 01:03:15,795

Laura: Cool.

:

01:03:15,975 --> 01:03:16,365

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

01:03:16,545 --> 01:03:23,095

I'm, I'm pretty sure I, I will, uh, I will

revoke sentences if I am incorrect and

:

01:03:23,155 --> 01:03:27,925

Ben: I am sure there are several True

crime podcasts that go all into it,

:

01:03:28,045 --> 01:03:28,465

Xhafer: yeah,

:

01:03:28,675 --> 01:03:30,565

Laura: go find one of those guys.

:

01:03:30,565 --> 01:03:30,595

Uh,

:

01:03:30,715 --> 01:03:33,367

Xhafer: not, I'm not someone

who's doing research on crime.

:

01:03:33,367 --> 01:03:34,147

Someone committed.

:

01:03:34,237 --> 01:03:36,037

That's not what we do here.

:

01:03:37,057 --> 01:03:39,997

Ben: but more importantly,

Adama calls up Kane and is

:

01:03:39,997 --> 01:03:41,137

like, Hey, I'm getting my people

:

01:03:41,467 --> 01:03:41,917

Xhafer: yeah.

:

01:03:42,607 --> 01:03:43,387

Ben: Saul, what are we

:

01:03:43,627 --> 01:03:44,587

Xhafer: justify it.

:

01:03:44,857 --> 01:03:46,327

Put them on that fucking raptor.

:

01:03:47,077 --> 01:03:49,382

Ben: Yeah, we are launching Vipers.

:

01:03:50,287 --> 01:03:52,657

Laura: yeah, he, he wants that jury trial.

:

01:03:52,657 --> 01:03:53,797

He wants them back.

:

01:03:53,909 --> 01:03:56,159

Uh, She's dictator for life.

:

01:03:56,159 --> 01:03:57,029

No, thanks.

:

01:03:57,419 --> 01:03:58,199

And

:

01:03:58,926 --> 01:04:02,226

Ben: This was a To be continued,

that kicked you like, no.

:

01:04:03,096 --> 01:04:04,266

Laura: right in the nuts.

:

01:04:04,266 --> 01:04:04,686

Right.

:

01:04:04,731 --> 01:04:05,181

Xhafer: yeah.

:

01:04:05,691 --> 01:04:06,051

yeah.

:

01:04:06,111 --> 01:04:07,761

Pegasus launches their vipers.

:

01:04:07,761 --> 01:04:10,031

They target galactic's main guns.

:

01:04:10,331 --> 01:04:10,991

We cut to two.

:

01:04:10,991 --> 01:04:11,891

Be continued.

:

01:04:12,509 --> 01:04:12,719

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:15,929

Importantly, we see that

the XO is a fucking yes man.

:

01:04:15,929 --> 01:04:18,719

He's not the, the no XO who gets shot,

:

01:04:19,402 --> 01:04:19,912

so,

:

01:04:20,557 --> 01:04:21,037

Xhafer: Well

:

01:04:21,787 --> 01:04:22,717

that's an episode.

:

01:04:23,602 --> 01:04:24,622

Laura: It was an episode.

:

01:04:24,667 --> 01:04:27,757

Xhafer: And as is our way,

it's time to rate this one on

:

01:04:27,757 --> 01:04:29,767

a scale of one to 12 colonies.

:

01:04:30,532 --> 01:04:31,732

Laura: Do I have to,

:

01:04:32,197 --> 01:04:32,677

Xhafer: I fuck.

:

01:04:32,707 --> 01:04:33,217

I say, fuck

:

01:04:33,262 --> 01:04:33,802

Ben: Yes.

:

01:04:35,257 --> 01:04:35,557

Xhafer: Fuck.

:

01:04:35,782 --> 01:04:37,582

Laura: Jair is already out the gate.

:

01:04:37,897 --> 01:04:38,107

Xhafer: Fuck.

:

01:04:38,317 --> 01:04:40,507

This is, this is my fuck

this episode, this season.

:

01:04:40,957 --> 01:04:41,887

Um.

:

01:04:42,217 --> 01:04:46,957

For the same reason that I

can't watch this, did not get as

:

01:04:46,957 --> 01:04:49,237

graphic as like a Handmaid's Tale.

:

01:04:49,627 --> 01:04:54,427

And I've made my stance on that show

very, very clear in previous episodes.

:

01:04:54,427 --> 01:04:59,947

So I'll not reiterate myself, but

I get so upset at this stuff that I

:

01:04:59,947 --> 01:05:04,327

just get very angry that, that we live

in a world where this is something

:

01:05:04,327 --> 01:05:06,577

that we could dramatize or happens.

:

01:05:07,027 --> 01:05:08,887

It's even worse that it fucking happens.

:

01:05:09,367 --> 01:05:12,037

And yeah, so fuck this episode.

:

01:05:13,957 --> 01:05:14,227

Yep.

:

01:05:15,147 --> 01:05:16,087

Laura: Ben, do you wanna go ahead?

:

01:05:16,672 --> 01:05:17,062

Ben: Sure.

:

01:05:17,602 --> 01:05:20,842

I, because rating the episode is a rule.

:

01:05:21,937 --> 01:05:22,357

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

01:05:22,822 --> 01:05:25,612

Ben: I'm going to actually

rate the EPIs the episode.

:

01:05:26,302 --> 01:05:26,662

Xhafer: Fuck.

:

01:05:26,662 --> 01:05:28,012

This episode is a rating.

:

01:05:28,747 --> 01:05:31,657

Ben: I don't like what happens.

:

01:05:32,317 --> 01:05:36,705

But gosh darn it, I was

compelled and riveted.

:

01:05:37,154 --> 01:05:41,895

There was no like downbeat where

I was just like, Hey, this is

:

01:05:41,895 --> 01:05:43,035

kind of slowing down a bit.

:

01:05:43,245 --> 01:05:44,025

It was.

:

01:05:44,992 --> 01:05:50,302

Hey, you wanna feel happy for a minute

and then regret that you ever felt happy?

:

01:05:51,442 --> 01:05:52,822

Did you forget where you are?

:

01:05:52,822 --> 01:05:54,892

We are living in the post apocalypse.

:

01:05:55,162 --> 01:05:58,298

Um, I think this is an 11 for me.

:

01:06:00,458 --> 01:06:03,548

Like it is, it is not fun.

:

01:06:04,401 --> 01:06:09,651

But I was mad that it to be continued me,

:

01:06:10,161 --> 01:06:11,541

Laura: Oh, me too, for

:

01:06:11,541 --> 01:06:12,021

sure.

:

01:06:13,071 --> 01:06:13,341

Yeah.

:

01:06:13,521 --> 01:06:15,621

Ben: and I think that is

a sign of a great episode.

:

01:06:16,156 --> 01:06:19,696

Laura: The thing that got me really

mad, and I recognize this is totally

:

01:06:19,696 --> 01:06:26,425

irrational, but the fact that Admiral

Kane condones this sort of torture.

:

01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:33,730

Like as a woman is like, fine with it.

:

01:06:34,660 --> 01:06:38,860

I was pretty viscerally mad about that.

:

01:06:38,860 --> 01:06:42,610

And I know that it should no

matter what, this method of

:

01:06:42,610 --> 01:06:45,100

torture should be super bad.

:

01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:51,910

But I felt like that sort of betrayal

by another sister or something

:

01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:57,200

almost I can't describe it Well,

because it's not a, it's, it's an

:

01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,750

emotional thing, not a logical thing.

:

01:06:59,755 --> 01:07:00,175

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:01,620 --> 01:07:03,330

Laura: So, boy, I just really hate her.

:

01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,580

I don't like her at all.

:

01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:11,040

Uh, I understand that I'm gonna

find out in this movie that there

:

01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:17,460

are reasons we are this way that

we are, but I just don't, I just

:

01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:18,000

can't be

:

01:07:18,015 --> 01:07:18,570

Xhafer: I'm not.

:

01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:19,980

No, I'm not.

:

01:07:20,190 --> 01:07:20,610

I'm not.

:

01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,850

The movie does not

justify anyone's actions.

:

01:07:24,370 --> 01:07:25,230

Ben: It explains,

:

01:07:25,290 --> 01:07:26,820

Xhafer: It explains, it does not

:

01:07:26,895 --> 01:07:27,165

Laura: huh.

:

01:07:27,945 --> 01:07:30,045

Ben: but that is Battle

Sar Galactica, we explain.

:

01:07:30,045 --> 01:07:31,275

We do not justify.

:

01:07:31,935 --> 01:07:32,325

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:07:32,955 --> 01:07:37,875

I, I guess I'm trying to be cool

that like, okay, I guess I'm missing

:

01:07:37,875 --> 01:07:40,425

contact, but I just, I'm just not with

:

01:07:40,485 --> 01:07:42,045

Ben: context is for Kings.

:

01:07:42,585 --> 01:07:43,005

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:07:43,365 --> 01:07:43,725

Yeah.

:

01:07:43,725 --> 01:07:46,095

And I'm just a, just a lowly peasant.

:

01:07:46,303 --> 01:07:47,233

Ben: Hey, you're a podcaster.

:

01:07:47,293 --> 01:07:48,943

You are a step above peasant

:

01:07:50,098 --> 01:07:51,868

Laura: are you sure it's above Ben?

:

01:07:53,143 --> 01:07:54,193

Ben: as a podcaster.

:

01:07:54,253 --> 01:07:54,973

Yes.

:

01:07:58,048 --> 01:08:03,088

Laura: Uh, yeah, but I, I will

sit with you on the 11 hill, Ben,

:

01:08:03,088 --> 01:08:06,118

especially 'cause I already blew my

fuck this episode for the season.

:

01:08:06,648 --> 01:08:07,708

Xhafer: you can have as many as you

:

01:08:07,768 --> 01:08:09,118

Laura: Bad choices were made.

:

01:08:10,633 --> 01:08:13,423

Xhafer: There's no, there's no

limit on, fuck this episodes.

:

01:08:13,423 --> 01:08:14,023

Do what you want.

:

01:08:14,563 --> 01:08:19,005

Ben: I, I just, I, I firmly

believe, like, not fun,

:

01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:20,399

Xhafer: Yeah, I know.

:

01:08:21,194 --> 01:08:21,524

Ben: like

:

01:08:22,050 --> 01:08:22,710

Laura: No, it is good

:

01:08:23,024 --> 01:08:26,295

Ben: wanted to watch the next

episode and I feel like the

:

01:08:26,295 --> 01:08:27,615

rating should reflect that.

:

01:08:27,765 --> 01:08:28,055

Xhafer: fair

:

01:08:28,170 --> 01:08:29,550

Laura: is Very good tv.

:

01:08:29,729 --> 01:08:31,470

I want to watch the next episode.

:

01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,649

I'm also a little scared

to watch the next episode.

:

01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:35,520

Like

:

01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,630

Xhafer: reasonable.

:

01:08:37,140 --> 01:08:40,200

Laura: Yeah, you notice I haven't

been like rushing to do it.

:

01:08:40,770 --> 01:08:42,300

It's been a couple weeks

:

01:08:42,330 --> 01:08:46,440

Xhafer: Well we also, we have something

else before we get there too, 'cause

:

01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:48,029

it's our movie break next week.

:

01:08:48,059 --> 01:08:48,569

Laura: That's true.

:

01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:48,809

Yeah.

:

01:08:49,109 --> 01:08:52,800

Xhafer: So originally when we had

talked about movie breaks, we like

:

01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,720

doing stuff the actors are in.

:

01:08:55,211 --> 01:08:58,062

and that's why we chose

Blade Runner for season one.

:

01:08:58,542 --> 01:09:03,282

But while I was reading the, so say we

all book about the making of the show,

:

01:09:04,002 --> 01:09:08,442

we found out a little thing and that

is when a new director would sign up.

:

01:09:08,817 --> 01:09:14,067

To do an episode of Battlestar Galactica,

part of the welcome to the Family package

:

01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:20,787

that they would send was three DVDs,

blade Runner:

:

01:09:20,787 --> 01:09:26,997

Black Hawk Down because the all of the

main production crew your producers,

:

01:09:26,997 --> 01:09:32,487

your cinematographers, your writer crew,

all considered those three things to be

:

01:09:32,756 --> 01:09:39,207

the mosaic melting pot that forms the

visual style of Battlestar Gala acta.

:

01:09:39,892 --> 01:09:40,312

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

01:09:41,247 --> 01:09:44,756

Xhafer: So with that in mind, we're

gonna watch another one of those movies.

:

01:09:44,756 --> 01:09:47,006

Did we pick, did we

set on Black Hawk Down?

:

01:09:48,247 --> 01:09:49,702

Ben: I pushed for it real hard.

:

01:09:51,627 --> 01:09:54,357

Laura: That seems to be the one that

you and I both have not actually

:

01:09:54,627 --> 01:09:55,017

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

01:09:55,762 --> 01:09:59,422

And to be honest, notes

on:

:

01:10:01,402 --> 01:10:01,882

So we're gonna

:

01:10:02,062 --> 01:10:05,842

Laura: I mean, we can cover it at

another time and just sort of, maybe

:

01:10:05,842 --> 01:10:08,272

watch it and just no doubts it,

:

01:10:08,887 --> 01:10:13,657

Xhafer: Yeah, maybe we should do,

uh, a stream at some point where

:

01:10:13,657 --> 01:10:15,697

we just live, react and riff.

:

01:10:18,367 --> 01:10:18,757

We, We,

:

01:10:18,832 --> 01:10:21,262

Laura: Well, at some point

Laura will fall asleep because

:

01:10:21,262 --> 01:10:22,882

that is Laura's sleeping movie.

:

01:10:23,107 --> 01:10:23,857

Xhafer: Oh, okay.

:

01:10:23,857 --> 01:10:25,777

Maybe we, maybe we, that's a bad choice.

:

01:10:26,047 --> 01:10:26,707

Regardless.

:

01:10:26,707 --> 01:10:28,567

We're watching Black Hawk down next week.

:

01:10:28,818 --> 01:10:29,238

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

01:10:29,888 --> 01:10:32,258

Xhafer: So that's, that's

what's on the docket.

:

01:10:32,258 --> 01:10:36,428

And then we'll get to season

two episode 11, resurrection

:

01:10:36,428 --> 01:10:39,968

ship part one after the movie.

:

01:10:40,650 --> 01:10:44,841

But before we get to that movie,

should remember to say our thank yous.

:

01:10:45,422 --> 01:10:45,992

Hey Ben,

:

01:10:46,623 --> 01:10:47,973

thanks for joining us today.

:

01:10:48,573 --> 01:10:49,833

Ben: my absolute pleasure.

:

01:10:50,253 --> 01:10:51,633

Xhafer: Always great to have you on.

:

01:10:52,063 --> 01:10:54,553

If you want to hear Ben and I talk more.

:

01:10:54,863 --> 01:10:59,363

Feel free to go pop over to last

Time on, which is another show on

:

01:10:59,363 --> 01:11:02,573

the wa Hapa, her Podcast Fam Network.

:

01:11:03,063 --> 01:11:05,853

We watch a TV show that we haven't seen.

:

01:11:06,363 --> 01:11:10,803

We watch the pilot, we roll some dice,

we skip a bunch of episodes, and we

:

01:11:10,803 --> 01:11:15,243

try to figure out what happened last

time on where we're joined by Victor

:

01:11:15,423 --> 01:11:20,053

and more famously known as Dominion

Media Television on the Facebooks.

:

01:11:20,263 --> 01:11:23,143

So that's a lot of fun that show.

:

01:11:23,968 --> 01:11:26,608

Ben: Now currently known

as VPN Media Television.

:

01:11:28,750 --> 01:11:28,990

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

01:11:28,990 --> 01:11:29,410

So thanks.

:

01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:31,420

Thanks for tagging along today, Ben.

:

01:11:31,450 --> 01:11:33,550

We'll see you again.

:

01:11:34,114 --> 01:11:40,204

you have not picked a season three

episode yet, so take a look, pick one out.

:

01:11:40,534 --> 01:11:41,644

We'll get you on the docket

:

01:11:42,484 --> 01:11:44,344

Ben: I mean, season premier, right?

:

01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:45,604

Xhafer: if that's

:

01:11:45,634 --> 01:11:45,964

Ben: That's just

:

01:11:45,964 --> 01:11:47,344

what, that's just what I do.

:

01:11:47,779 --> 01:11:48,169

Xhafer: Okay.

:

01:11:48,499 --> 01:11:49,789

Yeah, I'll put, I'll mark it down.

:

01:11:50,929 --> 01:11:51,049

Uh,

:

01:11:51,049 --> 01:11:53,029

I'd say the episode

name, but it's a spoiler.

:

01:11:53,974 --> 01:11:57,684

Ben: I am really excited for what

you guys say about black Hawk Down.

:

01:11:57,684 --> 01:11:59,004

It's one of my favorite movies.

:

01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:00,669

Xhafer: I've never seen it.

:

01:12:00,729 --> 01:12:01,959

I'm looking forward to it.

:

01:12:02,618 --> 01:12:07,088

uh, while we're saying thank yous,

we can't forget Jeremy Siegel.

:

01:12:08,018 --> 01:12:08,588

Hey Jeremy.

:

01:12:09,128 --> 01:12:10,478

Thanks so much for giving us a theme song.

:

01:12:10,478 --> 01:12:14,108

You can find more at Jeremy's work

at jeremy Siegel 40 two.bandcamp.com

:

01:12:14,288 --> 01:12:16,448

and on streaming services

is Nuclear Jaguar.

:

01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:19,291

Laura: and thanks to angry

Duck time machine on Instagram

:

01:12:19,291 --> 01:12:20,581

for our podcast artwork.

:

01:12:21,004 --> 01:12:22,529

Xhafer: Didn't make this

one easy for you Aaron.

:

01:12:22,619 --> 01:12:24,094

Appreciate the hell outta you.

:

01:12:24,514 --> 01:12:25,714

Best editor in the game.

:

01:12:25,774 --> 01:12:26,224

Thanks so

:

01:12:26,359 --> 01:12:26,509

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

01:12:27,375 --> 01:12:28,934

And thanks for being

here with US listener.

:

01:12:28,965 --> 01:12:32,565

If you wanna talk about more

BSG, hop into the Discord.

:

01:12:32,745 --> 01:12:36,645

If you've got spoilers though, make sure

you ask an admin for Spoiler Town please,

:

01:12:36,645 --> 01:12:39,255

because we're keeping 'em away from me.

:

01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:39,900

Xhafer: Yep.

:

01:12:40,085 --> 01:12:40,205

I.

:

01:12:40,205 --> 01:12:41,820

No Spoily allowed.

:

01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:42,510

All

:

01:12:42,510 --> 01:12:42,780

right.

:

01:12:43,005 --> 01:12:44,145

Laura: It's going pretty well.

:

01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:45,030

Xhafer: managed,

:

01:12:45,725 --> 01:12:47,905

Ben: Can we rename Spoiler town to Ferris?

:

01:12:47,905 --> 01:12:48,785

Making that face again,

:

01:12:49,705 --> 01:12:49,825

I.

:

01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,770

Xhafer: you know what?

:

01:12:52,770 --> 01:12:54,180

I'm doing it right now, and

:

01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:58,230

then in three weeks when the listeners

catch up, they'll understand.

:

01:13:03,103 --> 01:13:04,603

All right, we'll see you next week.

:

01:13:04,603 --> 01:13:05,023

Internet.

:

01:13:05,477 --> 01:13:05,697

Laura: Bye.

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.