Episode 174

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Published on:

4th Jun 2025

BSG S2E8 - Fleet Gone Wild

Laura and Xhafer share a rare lunchtime record session. Laura is easily deceived by Just for Men. Xhafer gets nostalgic for magazines. Today's episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 2, Episode 8: Final Cut.

Join us for more discussion on the Discord @ https://discord.gg/MUHKDDk6TN

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Xhafer:

Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast hosted by two former strangers.

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Now friends who are currently watching

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I'm Jair,

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Laura: And I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: and we're here today to

talk about Battlestar Galactica,

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season two, episode eight.

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Final cut.

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Laura: Yeah, this is the holiday edition.

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Folks, we are recording

this on Memorial Day

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Xhafer: Yes, in Memorial Day lunchtime

record that the, the elusive lunchtime

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record for us happens so rarely.

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Laura: Yeah, we're, we're doing

lots of things at lunchtime.

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Very few of them lunch.

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I, I suspect usually, yeah.

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Xhafer: I don't know.

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I had like a handful of cereal for lunch.

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: But I also had like half

of a leftover burger for breakfast.

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So

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Laura: That's a kick ass breakfast.

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Hell yeah.

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Xhafer: I, I have entered a, a weight loss

competition with a group of my friends.

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It's just like, it's a bunch

of people who are like, we're

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just, we're just doing a thing.

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Memorial Day, labor Day,

everyone's pitching in some cash.

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Whoever loses the most weight,

percentage of body weight wins the pool.

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Right?

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Just like a little financial

incentive to lose a couple pounds.

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: But I had breakfast

before weigh in, so I'm all like,

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heavy breakfast, light lunch.

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Laura: No, I had a job that did

those every year, like at New Year's

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time, new Year's resolution, and.

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Me being rather on the anti-D diet side of

things, didn't enjoy that and seeing the,

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the company-wide emails go out about that.

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But there was also a girl who had

been like a professional dancer who

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always did them, and she always won

because professional dancers know

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how to not eat like nobody else.

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Xhafer: Yikes.

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Laura: Yeah.

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uh, trigger warning for like

eating disorders, I guess.

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Xhafer: I'm just planning on trying to

get more exercise that's like it cut

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back a little bit on the, on the extra

food, don't eat it, and then get a little

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bit more exercise, which I was gonna

be doing anyways 'cause it's summer

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Laura: yeah,

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Xhafer: my body has that natural

Mediterranean instinct to bulk

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up before winter real bad.

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Laura: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's that real European ness.

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Uh,

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Xhafer: It's like you won't survive

the winter and it's like, I've

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been to these countries in winter.

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It's not that bad.

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It's significantly worse here.

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Laura: I mean, yeah, you're in

Michigan, so Okay, I'll buy it.

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Xhafer: Fucking nothing's

growing in the winter here.

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It is barren.

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It is snow.

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Laura: true.

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Yeah.

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No, we're pretty mild here most of the

time, unless we're just like buried

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in ice, which is not what you want

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Well, I don't know how we can

segue that into this episode.

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Laura: Yeah, I've been thinking

it about it for about a minute,

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Xhafer: Yeah, I got nothing.

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Yeah, no segue.

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So we're just gonna move on and talk

about season two, episode eight.

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Final cut.

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We probably should have talked

about five a bit, because Babylon

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five is the show that we watched

before this and Babylon five.

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Started this trope, this like

embedded media in sci-fi trope

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is the first example of that.

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That I'm aware of.

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Laura: Yeah, I mean, I can't

pretend to have seen all of sci-fi,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: it is striking when

it comes up in Babylon five.

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Xhafer: So that's fun.

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Laura: yeah, I, I really

enjoyed that part, like the.

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Remembering Babylon five, but Battlestar

is just a much more stressful show.

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Xhafer: Yeah, this, this we open on

found footage of the Gideon Massacre

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with Marines firing into the crowd

during Ty's martial law Declaration a

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handful of episodes, but fuck all that

because we finally got Lucy Lawless.

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I.

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Laura: I didn't even know, I didn't

even notice this was Lucy Lawless.

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Xhafer: Oh,

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I had been waiting for Lucy

Lawless to come on this show.

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Laura: okay.

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Zena, they had her as

as a brunette, right?

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She was very dark haired.

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And that'll throw me really quickly.

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You throw

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Xhafer: Note to self, if I ever need to

disguise myself from Laura hair color

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dye my hair, put on different

glasses, I will be invisible.

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Laura: It's true though.

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It's true.

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Like that's how anyone can escape from me.

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No.

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Um, so she's blonde now and obviously

she's just a little bit older, so

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didn't, didn't quite catch this,

but I suspect Lucy Lawless is gonna

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be a going concern after this.

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Xhafer: it's, she's not really uh, she's

not gone by the end of the episode.

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And we learn, we learn the

thing at the end of the episode.

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They don't, they don't hold it out on us.

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Whichever.

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Something I really appreciate about this

show, sometimes when they're like, we're

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introducing a new silent and fuck it.

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We're just gonna tell everyone in

the episode we're introducing them.

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Laura: true.

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Like Simon was same episode and now

we've got Lucy Lawless, same episode.

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Xhafer: Now Simon, they're

like, everyone finds out.

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He is a silent.

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In this one, we get another

like miniseries Sharon Reveal

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where the audience knows she's

a silo, but the crew doesn't.

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Laura: Yeah, Now I'm trying to remember.

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Her name was Beers, right?

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Xhafer: Deanna, Diana, there's no, I.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: It's D apostrophe.

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A NNA.

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Laura: I actually worked with

a Deanna, spelled like this.

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Yeah, it's fun.

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I saw that in the, the closed captions.

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I remember now that you said

her first name and went, oh,

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hey, I worked with one of those.

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Xhafer: Yep.

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Beers gets called the colonial one to

talk about her report criticizing the

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lack of charges against the Marines and

the military in general, where Rosalyn

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and Papa dama give beers and all access

passed to put a human face on Gala

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Acta, hopefully to calm some of the, uh.

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dissonance in the fleet at the moment.

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Laura: Yeah, sure.

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Xhafer: People are upset at the

military for killing citizens still, so,

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Laura: Weird.

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Xhafer: Crazy.

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Laura: She said when uh, they asked

her where they got this tape that

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an anonymous patriot gave it to her,

that just, that made me feel icky,

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silent vibes right off the bat.

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I wasn't, I wasn't suspicious

of her at this point.

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And actually, I don't know if I

was ever suspicious of her but.

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Like asylum definitely

gave them that tape.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Somehow

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Laura: So yes, Rosalyn is

standing behind the military for

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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EV they're both on board to do this thing.

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They think it'll be good for the fleet.

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Uh, We cut over to Ellen, Ty.

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With our B plot for the episode

with spooky writing to theme

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Laura: Babylon five definitely

did a spooky writing to theme.

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Right,

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Xhafer: they had to have, right?

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Laura: Yeah.

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There had to be at least one.

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Xhafer: I mean, threat to murder to theme

definitely sounds like Babylon five.

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So.

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Laura: Right, right.

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No, Erin and I were trying to figure

out what the spooky writing was

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Exactly, because it's not blood.

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Like that ain't blood.

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Xhafer: is it like lipstick?

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Laura: No, it ain't

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Xhafer: cinnamon toothpaste?

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Laura: Yeah, we were like, jello from the

commissary, like it's very jelly looking.

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Oh, jam.

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Like grape jam maybe.

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I don't know.

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Just not anything.

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Xhafer: Yeah, it's kind of out of place.

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not just paint.

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Laura: right.

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Xhafer: But yeah,

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Laura: survivor count.

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Xhafer: survivor count 4 7, 8 53 down

two, which is Meyer and Zurich's,

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other Goon who died on cobol.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Speaking of the, like within episode

Silent Reveals, I was really thinking

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that Meyer was gonna be that like

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Xhafer: I mean, still could be.

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Laura: I, I suppose, but how do you

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Xhafer: thing about dead characters.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, and then why don't we bring a

lotion back on the board then why not?

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But it is like, uh, I don't, I don't

know how you get that person back in when

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they were so higher profile, you know?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I mean, you have them go do

stuff with silences elsewhere.

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You have them do stuff on Caprica, like

we have beers at the end of this episode.

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Um, or they're just a known

CY quantity in the fleet.

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Like Sharon.

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Laura: Yeah, I don't know.

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I will be curious to see

if the show attempts one of

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these high profile deaths as a

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Xhafer: It's a Cy.

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Laura: silent.

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Yeah.

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We'll see.

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You don't get to tell me anything.

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Xhafer: say a word.

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Uh.

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On the Raptor to Galactica from

colonial One, Adama Rummages through

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some magazines, racetrack frowned.

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Remember, magazines.

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Laura: Yeah, this is quaint.

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Xhafer: This almost feels

more archaic than the sailing

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ship a couple episodes ago,

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Laura: More than like, do

you remember magazines?

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But do you remember like the sci-fi

magazines that had like the stories

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and then they'd have profiles on your

favorite like show and actor and.

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Xhafer: Yesterday was a friend of

Mine's kid's birthday 13, right?

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Laura: Oh

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Xhafer: And so I'm like, okay, well

we'll go get Hitchhiker's Guide to

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the Galaxy as a birthday present.

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That's a

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Laura: that's probably the right age.

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Yeah, I think that's about when I read

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Xhafer: 13-year-old.

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Yeah.

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Hell yeah.

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Hitchhiker's guide.

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Let's, let's, this kid's already an

avid reader, like this is perfect.

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Um, and so we go.

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To the bookstore near their house,

which was also the bookstore

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closest to where I grew up

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: and the wave of nostalgia

I felt looking at the magazine wall

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yesterday, knowing how many times I

had gotten a Star Trek, the magazine

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from there growing up, or a PC gamer,

or a Nintendo Power or whatever.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: It really, it really hit me in the

fields, being in that bookstore yesterday.

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Laura: I totally empathize with that.

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I really regret not keeping

some of those sci-fi magazines.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I'm sure my mom ditched him at some point.

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Laura: I, I know I'm the one

who ditched them probably.

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Uh, But yeah, and racetrack

is just gonna ditch these.

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She's like, oh, sorry, commander.

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I've been meaning to throw those out.

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And it's like, why would you do that?

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Your whole world where these came

from, destroyed, don't throw away

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the magazines from that world.

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Are you insane?

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They belong in a museum.

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Xhafer: they belong in a museum.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Indiana Jones is gonna be looking for

these in 20 years and will steal them from

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you and throw them at a British museum.

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So you gotta fucking

keep your hands on 'em.

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Laura: Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's just like capric in life

or something, but it's like, can

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you imagine how much value that's

gonna have to the next generation

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that doesn't know Caprica at all?

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Like they're gonna be fucking

fascinated by these things.

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Keep 'em

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Laura: and and Adama's Got it.

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He's got that.

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Xhafer: like I get it.

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It's probably super

depressing for you to read,

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Laura: Sure.

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Yeah.

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That's why you put 'em in a box

where you don't look at 'em.

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Xhafer: right.

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Laura: Duh.

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Have you not been in my house?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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but Adama also says here in the

Raptor that anything that compromises

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ship safety, you are cutting.

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Xhafer: Yeah, that's,

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Laura: not keeping that.

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Xhafer: I feel like he could

have said that in front of the

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president and gotten a Of course.

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And not have to like do

this on the ship afterwards.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Obviously it seems obvious from a command

position that you have to do this.

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Xhafer: Like

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This is so important,

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Laura: yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then we like cut over immediately

to DOA walking them through the ship and

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showing them stuff like CO2 scrubbers.

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And I'm sitting there like, doa, do

we really wanna show everybody like

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the workings of the ship that seems

like it could compromise safety?

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Xhafer: right?

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It's all like, here's how

we have oxygen to breathe.

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Laura: That seems like a problem.

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Xhafer: So, I mean, admittedly

the Cys probably have the

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schematics for this ship.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: we know they do.

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They they knew where everything

was on when they were on there.

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Laura: hey, guess what though?

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I'm getting the feeling that not

all our enemies are silenced.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Sometimes the enemy is us.

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Xhafer: Oh yeah.

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That, that's very true.

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Laura: Like, like sometimes

humans fight each other, so maybe

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we shouldn't give other humans

information about this either.

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Xhafer: I was really excited for you to

pitch me aliens on this show right then.

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Laura: Oh,

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no, no.

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I'm feeling like we're probably

not going in the alien zone.

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I,

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Xhafer: Yeah, I

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Laura: I think

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Xhafer: I won't say anything.

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Laura: Okay.

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I mean, I will trust wherever

Ronnie d wants to take me,

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Xhafer: I mean, they are

an original Battlestar.

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There are non-human, non-AI aliens

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Laura: that's right, because

the, the aliens made the

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Cys an original battle star.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think Ronnie d wants to play around with

like, we are our own worst enemies a bit.

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And you don't introduce aliens to do that.

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Sometimes you wanna keep it.

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All very obviously human-centric.

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So I don't know, maybe we're

gonna get him later, but I don't

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think it's gonna be here, so,

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Xhafer: Starbuck and Lee are discussing

the threat against Ty when Lee tells

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Starbuck she was removed from the suspect

list because she doesn't know the Capric

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poetry that was quoted in the mirror,

to which she recites the rest of the

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poem and then begs to be a suspect Again

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Laura: do we remember what this said?

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I didn't actually write it

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Xhafer: I didn't write it down either.

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Laura: It was something about

darkness and falling, and it seemed

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very, it reminded me of things I

might have written when I was 13.

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Xhafer: For sure.

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Uh, This isn't, like, this was

published on uh, you know, live journal,

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Laura: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Xhafer: Live journal.

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A hundred percent.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Or we put it on deviant art

with like some, some art we also made

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Xhafer: Oh yeah, for sure.

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You know, like you opened up

Photoshop, you threw a like.

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Five inch black stroke on the lettering.

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You know, threw a bevel and a drop

shadow on there, and then have a

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picture of you crying in the background.

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But it's obscured by the

text, but not enough to like

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completely obscure the text.

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A hundred percent.

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That's on Dian Art,

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: poem.

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Oh, for sure.

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Laura: yeah, yeah.

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I love it when she quotes author

in verse at him, that was, that was

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really fun because he just, he does

not know what an artist she really is.

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Does he?

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: for someone who's all like,

they play them like they're, even

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though they've only known each other

since G acta, they play them like

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they were childhood friends sometimes,

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Laura: Yes, a hundred percent.

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Xhafer: and Lee does not know

Starbucks as a person at all.

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Laura: Yeah, it's really hard to like

reconcile that the way they are two

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children together basically, and that

he seems to know absolutely nothing.

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Like, has she even told him

about Anders at this point?

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Probably

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Xhafer: probably not.

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Laura: Wild, wild.

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Yeah.

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So DoAll is still trying to do like

the good steward like the uh, the

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museum walkthrough in the beginning

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bit when a bunch of

naked people run through.

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Xhafer: right.

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Like if beers in the camera, they like

follow them into the pilot's changing

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room and it's just like decency, like

I would expect this to just be not

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okay to film, generally speaking.

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Laura: Right, right.

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I don't care how much you want the

human side of things, like you can keep

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the human part of me that's clothed.

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Xhafer: Chasing pilots out of the

shower seems a lot more fleet gone

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wild than it does journalistic

report and I'm not okay with it.

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Laura: Yep.

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Yeah, I mean these pilots are

kind of wild about it, right?

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Um, Kat says, does the hi mom thing, and

then moons the camera, which I was just

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like, Hey, how is her mom on the fleet?

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Well, I guess she's not one of the

original Battlestar pilots, is she?

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Xhafer: Her mom might very well be dead.

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Laura: Uh, It's true.

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She

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Xhafer: I assumed her mom was dead and

that she was just doing it for the bit.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I thought she was sincere.

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But if she's one of the ones that

was like drafted into the fleet,

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which I think she is, right?

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Xhafer: Yeah, she's one of the new pilots.

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Laura: It's possible.

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She was just like traveling with her

mom, and so she does have her mom.

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Because her mom was on the

same ship when it all happened.

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Okay.

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Because it seems highly unlikely

that an original pilot of Galactica

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would have their family left.

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That would be crazy.

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Yeah.

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Except for obviously Thes, because Yeah,

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Xhafer: Well, they're

both in the military.

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I mean, how crazy it would be.

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Is Ellen showing up for Saul?

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Like that's how crazy it would be for

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Laura: Hmm.

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That's crazy, isn't it?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Real crazy.

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What a cosmic coincidence, right?

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How utterly unbelievable it is.

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Laura: Let's go ahead and give the actress

props here for a, making me mad all the

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time, but also B, throughout this episode,

she has very little to do actually.

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Like she, she doesn't do that much.

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She's, she's scared in

the cold open, right?

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Scared to theme.

424

:

And later she's gonna be

like tied up on the floor.

425

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

426

:

Laura: But the whole time I'm

sitting there going, is it her?

427

:

Because she's just so damn suspicious.

428

:

Like,

429

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

430

:

Anyways after Kat shows her whole ass Lee.

431

:

Promptly kicks them

out of the locker room.

432

:

Laura: He is having trouble

holding his towel steady as well,

433

:

Xhafer: He shows his whole ass to

Starbuck, I think in this, in the

434

:

Laura: and it's like, it, it

works the same as it did like.

435

:

Two minutes ago when there

wasn't a camera in your face.

436

:

It's the same thing.

437

:

Xhafer: Same exact size towel.

438

:

The towel does not shrink due

to proximity to the camera, even

439

:

though it might feel like it does

440

:

Laura: But he's thinking

about it too hard now.

441

:

That's the problem.

442

:

It's, it's all in his, mind.

443

:

Xhafer: Huh.

444

:

So we cut over to an

interview segment with Ella.

445

:

She talks about why she

joined up in the military.

446

:

Then DOA is helping with some equipment

in the hallway when Gais walks by

447

:

a few times until he's noticed.

448

:

Laura: God, he is the worst, isn't he?

449

:

God.

450

:

He just wants attention so bad.

451

:

Like he is really upset that

there's a camera and he's

452

:

not the center of attention.

453

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

454

:

Laura: So he walks by those

few times and then six pt.

455

:

Says that we've gotta get her attention

because we're gonna need her help.

456

:

Xhafer: She can help him.

457

:

She's, she's a, she's a helpful person.

458

:

Six PT thinks

459

:

Laura: Oh, no, I don't like this at all.

460

:

Given what we find out about Ms.

461

:

Beers,

462

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

463

:

Laura: I don't think six PT has

good intentions for Gais at all.

464

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

465

:

he can't interview today because he's

too busy walking around aimlessly.

466

:

But they'll, they'll interview tomorrow

and, beers and Dee are both like,

467

:

Laura: Lucy Lawless.

468

:

How tall is she?

469

:

Xhafer: I don't know.

470

:

Laura: We need to google this

really quick because they do frame

471

:

it like she's bigger than him.

472

:

And then let's see, James Callis.

473

:

Okay, so they didn't have to work super

hard to do that, but five, eight's not

474

:

that small, but yeah, Gais definitely

has like a mousey feel about him though.

475

:

He's like kind of uptight.

476

:

Everything's a little like high intense.

477

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

478

:

Laura: Okay.

479

:

I, I agree.

480

:

Xhafer: time for Lee's interview.

481

:

When he gets called out for offering the

pilot special treatment, he doubles down.

482

:

It's like, yeah, they do

deserve special treatment.

483

:

Fuck you.

484

:

They've got a shit thankless job

where they almost die every day.

485

:

That is vital to the survival of humanity.

486

:

Fuck off.

487

:

Yes.

488

:

They get special treatment when

it comes to relaxing sometimes.

489

:

Laura: Okay.

490

:

Yeah, I don't know how to argue with that.

491

:

Xhafer: Right?

492

:

It's not even like she was coming for, uh.

493

:

hammerhead or anything, right?

494

:

I guess she couldn't because that would

ruin the twist at the end of the episode,

495

:

Laura: Hammerhead.

496

:

Xhafer: hammerhead is the pilot who

is responsible for the threats on tie.

497

:

He's the pilot who was in charge of

the Gideon mission because remember,

498

:

they were so short on Marines

that they put pilots in charge.

499

:

Laura: Right.

500

:

And I, I don't know if it's just me and my

easily fooled this and I forget faces, but

501

:

I didn't recognize him as the pilot who,

502

:

Xhafer: These are the

503

:

Laura: was in charge of

504

:

Xhafer: he.

505

:

He's in that episode and

he's in this episode.

506

:

Laura: Okay.

507

:

I, I needed that

508

:

to be.

509

:

told to be.

510

:

Xhafer: Uh,

511

:

You know, he hasn't been in the

background of a ton of episodes.

512

:

We've, we never hear his call sign.

513

:

I think it comes from the books

or the scripts or something.

514

:

Laura: Okay.

515

:

Because I, I did not recognize the

name Hammerhead when you said it, and

516

:

I barely, I didn't even clock his face

when Aaron pointed it out, like during

517

:

the episode of like, oh yeah, he's the

pilot that was in charge of that mission.

518

:

And I was like, oh, okay.

519

:

Okay.

520

:

So.

521

:

Hmm.

522

:

Yeah, I guess special treatment

can only go so far though, Lee.

523

:

Xhafer: Yep.

524

:

Laura: Right?

525

:

Okay.

526

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

527

:

As we see Katz Viper

has a mechanical issue.

528

:

Tyro catches it before it's a problem.

529

:

But Kat's yelling at him about it.

530

:

Uh,

531

:

Laura: That was cat two.

532

:

I thought it was racetrack.

533

:

Ugh, man.

534

:

I need them to like have their names

on their shirts all at all times.

535

:

Xhafer: they do.

536

:

They're on the

537

:

Laura: Nuts.

538

:

Well, but they don't have the, they have

their name names, not their call signs.

539

:

Xhafer: Kat's name is Kat.

540

:

It's like her last name

is Ka ka something.

541

:

Laura: Shit.

542

:

Okay.

543

:

I don't know.

544

:

There's something too, Samie samie about

it for me to easily distinguish people.

545

:

Maybe it's, you know, like Star Trek.

546

:

We have the different colors at least.

547

:

So

548

:

Xhafer: and color coded for the audience.

549

:

Yeah.

550

:

Laura: maybe I'm too spoiled by that.

551

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

552

:

in an interview with Marine, it slips

that tie's been threatened and Deanna

553

:

kind of jumps on that for a minute.

554

:

And then there is a big

delegation headed to clown nine.

555

:

All of the ships in the Flotilla are

going to be represented and Adam's

556

:

tie, he's going to represent Galactica.

557

:

Laura: This is such a bad idea.

558

:

Aa, like, I'm glad it doesn't go

through because it's such a bad idea.

559

:

Xhafer: Well, Adom is just

like they're mad at you.

560

:

They're gonna go yell at you and

you're gonna fucking take it.

561

:

Also, you'll get

562

:

Laura: that is a good idea if, if Saul

can like actually just take his lumps,

563

:

you know, like this is the thing I

deserve, this is the thing I'm getting.

564

:

I don't think Saul Tie can do that,

565

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

566

:

I don't think you can either.

567

:

Laura: so that is not great.

568

:

Oh man.

569

:

So

570

:

Xhafer: away from the bar though.

571

:

He gets told,

572

:

Laura: yeah, but we know he can't do that.

573

:

Xhafer: and we know that that's not

what's gonna happen, but before he

574

:

can go, there's a malfunction with

the raptor that would've killed Saul

575

:

and vented the cabin into space.

576

:

Tyrell says quite directly,

someone took a hammer to it.

577

:

Like it wasn't working condition.

578

:

Someone came by, smashed it up,

and then was just gonna let him go

579

:

off into space and get vacuumed.

580

:

Laura: Yeah, but thank goodness it

couldn't even like get out of the

581

:

hangar without this being noticed.

582

:

Right.

583

:

That that tells you right there,

that's not somebody who's an expert

584

:

in the mechanics of the thing.

585

:

'cause somebody who was like one of

tact TE's men would be an expert and

586

:

know that like, okay, if I do that

then it's not gonna get very far.

587

:

So I should probably like do

a thing that's more subtle.

588

:

We don't have a mechanic

trying to pull this off.

589

:

Xhafer: Over on the memorial

wall racetrack, lights a candle

590

:

and gives a brief interview.

591

:

A little snippet about the

mentality the military trains you

592

:

to have before going into battle.

593

:

Hilo backs it up in interview before

we cut to him visiting Sharon, who

594

:

has blood on her hands and crying.

595

:

Literal blood, not figurative,

and also it's hers.

596

:

This, I could have worded that better.

597

:

Laura: Yeah.

598

:

Uh, Sharon is very background

for this episode, but we know

599

:

something's wrong with the baby,

so I guess I do have to kind of

600

:

maybe admit there really is a baby.

601

:

Like I've been very

suspicious this whole time.

602

:

Xhafer: I mean, I'm just gonna

devil's advocate here and if.

603

:

She is so aware of and in control of her

body so much more than a normal human.

604

:

Laura: Did she do this on purpose?

605

:

Xhafer: I don't know.

606

:

I am not answering your question

about the existence of the baby.

607

:

I am merely devil's advocating you

on your changing viewpoint because I

608

:

know, 'cause I know the answer, right?

609

:

Like it, it has a definitive

answer in the series.

610

:

What's going on with this baby?

611

:

Um, and WW slash r slash t it's existence.

612

:

Um,

613

:

Laura: Right.

614

:

Xhafer: this, this plot line has an

end that reveals whether or not she

615

:

was actually pregnant at some point.

616

:

And so I'm just, I'm just trying to uh,

keep your mind open, I guess, rather

617

:

than settle in on a definitive view.

618

:

Laura: Well the, the thing that was

making me think like, and I guess

619

:

maybe we can argue other points that

maybe it doesn't exist, but I was

620

:

thinking that like in this little plot

line, she goes to dot coddle and we

621

:

find out dot coddle saves the baby.

622

:

So.

623

:

Doc Coddle should be able to

observe this fetus in some way.

624

:

Right.

625

:

And determine, yeah, baby.

626

:

Like, and like my efforts are working

or my efforts are not working.

627

:

Right.

628

:

So there's gotta be

something in there, I guess.

629

:

But now that you say the thing about can

she do it to herself, like if she could.

630

:

Trigger this herself.

631

:

Could she also trigger

like a pregnancy herself?

632

:

I don't know.

633

:

Xhafer: That would be antithetical

to everything we know about

634

:

Cylance at this point with

regards to their reproductive uh,

635

:

Laura: They seem really like, we

want to, we can't do this ourselves.

636

:

They've said that, but I don't

know if I believe anything.

637

:

Silence says

638

:

so.

639

:

Oh, I don't know.

640

:

I don't know.

641

:

But we cut to something even more bizarre

642

:

Xhafer: G of

643

:

Laura: where Yes,

644

:

Xhafer: him look so cool.

645

:

Just like this sweet tattoo.

646

:

Laura: gada, what is going on buddy?

647

:

He's like losing it.

648

:

He's really stressed out.

649

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

650

:

I mean, his mind is the only thing he'll

lose over the course of this series, so,

651

:

Laura: He wonders if there's any

more to life than this at this point.

652

:

So he is already getting pretty dark.

653

:

And it's just weird and I thought

this was gonna be a one off thing,

654

:

but I've also watched episode nine

at this point, so I don't think it

655

:

Xhafer: Oh, gada.

656

:

Laura: Ugh.

657

:

Speaking of things that keep

persisting beers is on to.

658

:

Colonel Ty,

659

:

Xhafer: yeah.

660

:

She like pours drinks and hands him one,

and he's just like, what the hell is this?

661

:

And she's like, oh, we're just

loosening up before the interview.

662

:

And then she like sets hers down and

then stares at him as she, he drinks his,

663

:

Laura: this man, he

cannot avoid being set up.

664

:

Xhafer: he's kind of a doofus, right?

665

:

Laura: Yeah, I mean, he gets

set up by Ellen all the time.

666

:

earlier in this whole thing.

667

:

We kind of skipped over the spot,

but Ellen tells him like, you've

668

:

gotta stand up for yourself.

669

:

You've gotta go do this

interview with her.

670

:

Like, people need to, to know your side of

the story, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

671

:

And he walks right into the interview,

which was already kind of a dubious idea.

672

:

And get set up with alcohol,

like, don't be a fucking idiot.

673

:

Xhafer: he can't not.

674

:

Be a fucking idiot.

675

:

Laura: Yeah.

676

:

He's only right twice a day is what

we've discovered about Colonel Ty.

677

:

And it winds up being nothing but

regret because what she gets maybe

678

:

two questions in before he immediately

regrets his decision, knows he's been

679

:

set up and throws a fucking fit about it.

680

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

681

:

Laura: He like shoves her on camera.

682

:

Bad idea.

683

:

Xhafer: Yep.

684

:

He gets the fuck out of there.

685

:

Next up is Starbuck, who is asked

about what it takes to be a pilot.

686

:

Adama says the tie in the Marine's

punishment is living with their

687

:

actions and another scene right after.

688

:

Laura: Yeah, he, he

apologizes for Ty, but.

689

:

beers points out that people

apologize for Ty a lot.

690

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

691

:

Laura: And you know, he says

like, I'm sorry, but it's war.

692

:

We're up against this vastly superior

force and I can't sacrifice anyone.

693

:

but I have a feeling some people are

gonna start sacrificing themselves.

694

:

Xhafer: Kat messes up three landing

attempts in a row is very frazzled.

695

:

This gets cut with frantic interview

clips of her uh, when she finally lands.

696

:

She's rushed to Med Bay and

that's where they find her space.

697

:

Cocaine slash caffeine pills.

698

:

Laura: Yeah.

699

:

She's like, oh, the

controls are messed up.

700

:

I can't do it.

701

:

Something's not working right.

702

:

And it's like, eh, it's the

controls between your brain

703

:

and your hands, like you are.

704

:

Not okay

705

:

Xhafer: a term for that in it.

706

:

Laura: Yeah.

707

:

Do share

708

:

Xhafer: PCA

709

:

Laura: Uhhuh

710

:

Xhafer: exists between chair and keyboard.

711

:

Laura: Yeah.

712

:

I have heard this one

before, but I always like it.

713

:

Yeah.

714

:

Yeah, she's, she's the problem

between chair and joystick.

715

:

Right.

716

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

717

:

Laura: But it's very dramatic in sick

bay because not only are we taking

718

:

Kat there for her drug problem,

but also Sharon is flipping out.

719

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

720

:

Yeah.

721

:

The cameras catch a glimpse

of Sharon and talk of a baby.

722

:

Laura: mm-hmm.

723

:

Xhafer: Hmm.

724

:

Laura: Uh oh.

725

:

Xhafer: Adama takes the camera

tape here in Sick Bay, but

726

:

we find that beers snuck it.

727

:

Ooh,

728

:

Laura: Adama buddy, guy pal.

729

:

This is the oldest trick in the book.

730

:

This is the oldest trick in the book.

731

:

I, I put fake thing for you to take.

732

:

Well, I keep real

733

:

Xhafer: Yep.

734

:

Laura: Come on.

735

:

Come on.

736

:

Xhafer: We cut over to Baltar's

interview, but an alarm goes off

737

:

when it's time to start two silent

Raiders around a collision course.

738

:

Laura: This is very funny.

739

:

I like to see Gais not get what he wants.

740

:

Yeah, he's like running his mouth.

741

:

And six PT is encouraging him to

explain why he should run the fleet.

742

:

Xhafer: Yeah, make

743

:

a

744

:

Laura: the worst idea.

745

:

Like, okay, Adama definitely made

a huge mistake in the very last

746

:

scene, letting her get away and not

like, Hey, empty all your pockets.

747

:

Let me just have a peek inside your bra.

748

:

Like, like, that, that was a silly

mistake, but Gaas is gonna make.

749

:

Many, many more silly mistakes.

750

:

He's the worst.

751

:

I, I don't know.

752

:

I guess, I guess six.

753

:

PT just wants chaos or wants a

very malleable person up there.

754

:

That's guy, right?

755

:

Like.

756

:

Uh, But yeah, guys can't

keep their attention.

757

:

We've gotta go to CIC and

I guess they split up, huh?

758

:

Because there's only

the two of them, right?

759

:

There's Ms.

760

:

Beers and her camera guy,

but they both have cameras.

761

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

762

:

Laura: So we get shots of both CIC and the

Viper Bay and all of the stuff going down.

763

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

764

:

Yeah, it's a, it's a different

light on how we normally experience

765

:

this type of thing because we

don't stay with the pilots at all.

766

:

Normally, we get to go with the pilots

and see them do the space battle, but

767

:

to experience the space battle from

the perspective of everyone on the ship

768

:

listening to the radio, waiting to hear

whether or not they're going to die.

769

:

Laura: Yeah.

770

:

Which would be pretty accurate

to the actual experience.

771

:

Right?

772

:

Like,

773

:

Xhafer: I would

774

:

Laura: Hmm.

775

:

And we've, we've like intercut this also

with Ella's interview where she tells them

776

:

that, yeah, I told my dad last time I saw

him that I never wanted to see him again.

777

:

Xhafer: Yep.

778

:

Laura: Lots of, lots of guilt there.

779

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

780

:

Eventually they get the all clear and

we see them down on the flight deck, and

781

:

CIC celebrate Adama let's out the, yeah.

782

:

That gets,

783

:

Laura: Yeah, everybody's celebrating,

but beers asks Ola, if this

784

:

gets easier, the more you do it.

785

:

And Ella's like, of course not you, fool.

786

:

It's always harder every time it happens.

787

:

It's harder.

788

:

Xhafer: Lee says any day that they

don't lose someone is a good day.

789

:

Laura: Yeah.

790

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

791

:

Laura: Yep.

792

:

Xhafer: Ty comes to his quarters to find

Ellen tied up and not in the fun way.

793

:

Well, I guess this could be the fun way.

794

:

I'm not here to yuck Yums, but uh,

there's a real lack of consent,

795

:

and that's what I'm referring to.

796

:

Laura: Yeah, no.

797

:

So two things here.

798

:

I was really afraid for a second.

799

:

That like he was walking in on Ellen and

Tai having some role play with somebody

800

:

and which I honestly could still happen,

801

:

Xhafer: Could still happen.

802

:

Laura: could still happen in this

show because like her outfit,

803

:

she's wearing like a Barbie outfit.

804

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

805

:

Laura: And tied up and there is

like duct tape over her mouth.

806

:

So that's not very cool.

807

:

But I was like, what

are you wearing, Ellen?

808

:

Like if you think about the times that

we see Ellen, half of the time that we

809

:

see Ellen, it's like, are you wearing

this to just like walk around Galactica?

810

:

This this thing that you're wearing,

811

:

Xhafer: This is

812

:

Laura: wearing it to just

walk around Galactica.

813

:

Huh?

814

:

Because she's not just sitting

in her quarters the whole time.

815

:

Right.

816

:

Xhafer: She might be she, you could

tell me that Adama has low key, can

817

:

find her to quarters, and I would

a thousand percent believe you.

818

:

Laura: I mean, it seems like

it might be useful to do that.

819

:

Yeah.

820

:

Xhafer: Just like you don't actually

like give the order to her, right?

821

:

You don't tell her.

822

:

You just have a guard outside

their door and it's an emergency

823

:

whenever she tries to leave.

824

:

Sorry, man.

825

:

Laura: like somebody who's on Ellen

Duty all the time on Galactica, and

826

:

like if she does go somewhere, like

she goes down to the cafeteria to

827

:

get some food, like it's your job to

be like her friend at that moment.

828

:

Xhafer: Make sure that

she goes nowhere else.

829

:

Laura: There's a rotation.

830

:

Xhafer: Keep her away from Gaia altar.

831

:

Laura: Oh God.

832

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

833

:

But yeah.

834

:

So this is where we find

out what's going on.

835

:

It's the pilot Hammerhead.

836

:

As we mentioned earlier in the episode,

837

:

Laura: I'm glad you told me his

name 'cause I didn't know it.

838

:

Yeah.

839

:

Xhafer: his Wikipedia page, like

his Battlestar Galactica Wikipedia

840

:

page, WIA page is so sparse it

doesn't even list this incident.

841

:

Laura: Wow, that's super significant.

842

:

Yeah, so we figure out it's him

because beers is like editing her

843

:

footage and notices one of the

pilots has this book of poetry by

844

:

guitarists, and that is significant.

845

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

846

:

That's the poem that was written in the

mirror in Jello from the commissary.

847

:

Laura: Yeah.

848

:

Hammerhead like pours booze on him,

849

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

850

:

Laura: and Ty, Ty has another like,

broken clock kind of moment here, right?

851

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

852

:

Laura: He's like.

853

:

Shoot me like, yeah, I

was the one in charge.

854

:

I deserve it.

855

:

I, I got those people killed.

856

:

Like he does the thing where he

like puts the gun right to his own

857

:

forehead and is like, Hey, go ahead.

858

:

You know?

859

:

And then, then he does his broken clock.

860

:

He says, the Gideon was an accident.

861

:

This is a choice.

862

:

And that actually seemed kind of smart,

863

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

864

:

Laura: seemed, seemed kind of a,

a good sum up of the situation.

865

:

Yeah, it shouldn't have happened.

866

:

There were lots of accidents

in life that shouldn't happen.

867

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

868

:

Laura: And then he rescues Ellen.

869

:

Xhafer: Uh, In the Med Bay beers

interviews Kat and she explains

870

:

her shame and we cut over to

reveal that this is actually them

871

:

watching the eponymous final cut.

872

:

Ty kind of lashes out against it,

but Adama loves it for putting a non

873

:

propaganda human face on the military.

874

:

Laura: Yeah, I think Ty, he's like

almost in tears watching this.

875

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

876

:

Laura: I think it's because, you

know, Kat is like letting out her

877

:

shame and he can't handle that.

878

:

Ty can't handle someone else like

airing out their shame and healing

879

:

because he's deep in the middle of

his shame and he's can't admit it.

880

:

Xhafer: No.

881

:

No, he can't.

882

:

Laura: but Adama's very

proud of this piece.

883

:

and beers has like a little touching

monologue that goes over the end and such.

884

:

Um, and oh, they, they have

even, is this the original

885

:

Battlestar Galactica theme again?

886

:

There's very like rousing music.

887

:

Xhafer: so the original Battlestar

Galactica theme is like the colonial, it's

888

:

like the the military force theme song.

889

:

Laura: Yeah.

890

:

It's very inspiring the way she's put

this together, and she declares at the

891

:

end that the mistakes are the exceptions.

892

:

Like, yes, we know about the mistakes,

893

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

894

:

Laura: but every day they're

putting their lives on the line

895

:

and they're, they're doing a mostly

good job, but that's not the end.

896

:

Xhafer: Nope.

897

:

We cut over to Caprica where the cylon

models are having a a little advanced

898

:

screening of this before it hits too,

and it's revealed that Deanna is a cylon.

899

:

Laura: Whew.

900

:

That one was fast.

901

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

902

:

Laura: That one was fast.

903

:

Uh, We have Doral, Sharon,

and six in here with her.

904

:

Right?

905

:

I maybe Leo's sitting there, but

he doesn't say anything for sure.

906

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

907

:

Laura: Of course Sharon

wants to see the cut footage.

908

:

And hey, she's really stoked.

909

:

She's still alive.

910

:

Xhafer: Yep.

911

:

Laura: She says, I told you so.

912

:

I told you she'd still be alive.

913

:

I'd still be alive.

914

:

Xhafer: This kind of definitively puts S

Hive mind as a theory to rest, doesn't it?

915

:

The fact that this is

news for all of them.

916

:

Laura: yeah.

917

:

They, they had to smuggle this tape out

918

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

919

:

Laura: to find this information.

920

:

Like, so there's definitely not,

like if there's some sort of silent

921

:

cloud, it's location based, right?

922

:

Xhafer: It's location based

or maybe it's upload based.

923

:

Yeah.

924

:

Laura: Oh.

925

:

Yeah.

926

:

'cause we could have Sharon

just like she could Sharon on.

927

:

Galactic as that is, could

be really a renegade and just

928

:

not uploading to the cloud.

929

:

But that doesn't seem

930

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

931

:

Laura: likely to me at this point.

932

:

Like the other, Sharon is stoked for her.

933

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

934

:

Laura: They're very happy.

935

:

The baby was saved.

936

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

937

:

Laura: Cool.

938

:

Yeah.

939

:

So this, this, um, this

beers, this Deanna that

940

:

we see, is a different Deanna for sure.

941

:

Right?

942

:

The,

943

:

Xhafer: Then the one that's on

Galactica, like she didn't travel

944

:

from the fleet back to Caprica.

945

:

Yeah.

946

:

Laura: So she sent some kind of

transmission to those two cys that

947

:

jumped in, that they fought right.

948

:

And then they transmitted back.

949

:

Xhafer: Something like that.

950

:

Yeah, she might have had

another way to get it out.

951

:

They don't really get into it,

952

:

so

953

:

Laura: I don't think she

actually sent the tape.

954

:

I think

955

:

Xhafer: that would probably be

significantly more difficult

956

:

Laura: yeah.

957

:

Xhafer: to physically

move the tape around.

958

:

Laura: I do not like that the

fleet, Deanna still has the tape,

959

:

like with Sharon and the baby and the

stuff, because she did say to Adama

960

:

that Sharon's presence and the baby

could turn the fleet against him.

961

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

962

:

Laura: That's not great.

963

:

It's still a going concern, I think.

964

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

965

:

Laura: Hmm.

966

:

Xhafer: agree.

967

:

I think it is still a growing concern.

968

:

Laura: Alright, well how do we

feel about episode Final Cut.

969

:

Xhafer: Ah, you know, I liked this one.

970

:

I did not like it as much

as some of the others.

971

:

This season, and I do not like it as

much as the of the, the, the Babylon

972

:

five episode that this isn't an exact rip

off of but kind of started this trope,

973

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

974

:

Xhafer: I feel like is a bit

better of an episode as well.

975

:

And I, that's not really fair to take

points away from this episode for that.

976

:

But fuck it.

977

:

I do what I want.

978

:

Um, so I'm gonna go ahead

and place this at a, a nine,

979

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

980

:

Xhafer: I think it's a solid episode.

981

:

Nine outta 12.

982

:

Laura: Yeah, I, it's a solid episode.

983

:

I do feel better when

we just go ahead and.

984

:

Call asylum Asylum

985

:

rather than me sitting in the background,

like making a list and guessing.

986

:

Um, but maybe it's just the bias of it

having been first, I did feel like I liked

987

:

the Babylon five episode a little better.

988

:

Um, remind me when the Babylon five

episode turns out, that is a bit

989

:

more of a negative propaganda spin.

990

:

Yes.

991

:

Xhafer: yeah, because that's a lot more of

ISN setting up Babylon five as a problem.

992

:

A lot more of the isolationist stuff that

they're trying to push at that point.

993

:

Laura: Yeah.

994

:

Our main characters don't feel good

about it at the end, the way Adama feels

995

:

good about this I was a little afraid.

996

:

That we were gonna get more negative

feelings, but I think Battlestar

997

:

Galactica has to balance our negative

feelings and our positive feelings

998

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

999

:

Laura: very much so.

:

00:47:14,757 --> 00:47:19,707

So I was pleased to see

like, oh, it's, it's okay.

:

00:47:19,707 --> 00:47:25,257

It's not a huge propaganda piece

to make them look bad, but I think

:

00:47:25,257 --> 00:47:28,587

that's because we're gonna wait

for another shoe to drop later.

:

00:47:29,148 --> 00:47:30,168

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:47:31,762 --> 00:47:33,257

Laura: So yeah, I, I'm with you.

:

00:47:33,257 --> 00:47:34,457

I give this about a nine.

:

00:47:34,457 --> 00:47:36,317

It's not a bad episode of television.

:

00:47:36,347 --> 00:47:40,667

I was riveted the whole time,

but I do have very fond memories

:

00:47:41,057 --> 00:47:42,557

of the first time I saw this.

:

00:47:42,887 --> 00:47:42,947

So,

:

00:47:43,027 --> 00:47:43,417

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:47:44,797 --> 00:47:50,767

All right, well next up we got season

two episode nine, flight of the Phoenix.

:

00:47:51,187 --> 00:47:54,037

I believe I described this to

you as Star Trek Voyager did it

:

00:47:54,452 --> 00:47:54,802

Laura: Uhhuh.

:

00:47:55,237 --> 00:47:56,047

Xhafer: two weeks ago.

:

00:47:56,477 --> 00:47:56,927

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:56,987 --> 00:48:00,947

Did we actually talk about

what Star Trek Voyager did?

:

00:48:01,297 --> 00:48:01,717

Xhafer: no.

:

00:48:02,807 --> 00:48:03,227

Laura: Okay.

:

00:48:03,367 --> 00:48:06,637

Xhafer: just remember the Delta flyer and

that this is the one where Teel builds.

:

00:48:07,822 --> 00:48:08,422

A fighter.

:

00:48:08,927 --> 00:48:09,557

Laura: Yes.

:

00:48:09,557 --> 00:48:09,887

Yes.

:

00:48:09,887 --> 00:48:12,617

So when I watched this, I have

already watched Episode nine folks.

:

00:48:13,217 --> 00:48:17,327

I was thinking, okay, what

did Star Trek Voyager do?

:

00:48:17,417 --> 00:48:20,447

And the second Terrell

started building a ship.

:

00:48:20,447 --> 00:48:22,097

I was like, oh, it's the Delta flyer.

:

00:48:22,432 --> 00:48:22,912

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:48:24,662 --> 00:48:26,372

Laura: But this is a cool, a cool episode.

:

00:48:26,372 --> 00:48:26,852

I liked it.

:

00:48:27,092 --> 00:48:27,362

So

:

00:48:27,427 --> 00:48:30,862

Xhafer: Well, I haven't watched it in

a while, so I'm looking forward to it.

:

00:48:31,162 --> 00:48:34,552

We got Sharon inform a DAMA

that the Galactica has been

:

00:48:34,552 --> 00:48:36,532

infiltrated with a computer virus.

:

00:48:36,652 --> 00:48:39,352

Tyrell decides to start

building a new fighter.

:

00:48:39,847 --> 00:48:40,267

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:41,262 --> 00:48:41,982

Our man, Tyrell,

:

00:48:42,092 --> 00:48:42,452

Xhafer: Yeah,

:

00:48:43,152 --> 00:48:45,192

Laura: love to see him work some stuff

:

00:48:45,692 --> 00:48:45,872

Xhafer: yeah.

:

00:48:45,872 --> 00:48:48,122

There was a ton of other stuff

in the episode description.

:

00:48:48,122 --> 00:48:50,252

This is one of those ones

that was two paragraphs.

:

00:48:51,002 --> 00:48:52,112

I cut it down to that.

:

00:48:53,022 --> 00:48:54,732

Laura: There's a ton of

stuff in the episode.

:

00:48:54,732 --> 00:48:58,752

I finished that episode

and thought, oh great.

:

00:48:59,682 --> 00:49:04,722

Everyone keeps saying 10

is very dramatic, so, okay.

:

00:49:05,732 --> 00:49:09,572

Xhafer: 10 is very traumatic

before it hits theme.

:

00:49:10,172 --> 00:49:11,642

That's how traumatic it is.

:

00:49:11,802 --> 00:49:12,402

Laura: God.

:

00:49:12,432 --> 00:49:14,592

Okay, well we might

watch that later today.

:

00:49:14,592 --> 00:49:15,372

We shall see.

:

00:49:15,402 --> 00:49:16,962

Holidays are uncontrollable.

:

00:49:16,962 --> 00:49:18,372

Sometimes they do their own thing.

:

00:49:18,876 --> 00:49:22,386

Xhafer: All right, well, before we get to

10, we'll get to nine, but before we get

:

00:49:22,386 --> 00:49:25,026

to nine, we gotta say some thank yous.

:

00:49:25,596 --> 00:49:26,226

Jeremy.

:

00:49:27,096 --> 00:49:28,056

Jeremy Siegel.

:

00:49:28,626 --> 00:49:31,026

Jeremy Siegel 40 two.bandcamp.com.

:

00:49:31,026 --> 00:49:33,216

Thank you so much for our theme music.

:

00:49:33,216 --> 00:49:36,156

We appreciate the hell out of it and

we appreciate the hell outta you.

:

00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:38,280

Laura: He's just a real music man.

:

00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:40,010

Jeremy Siegel.

:

00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,425

It's amazing you love to see it.

:

00:49:42,581 --> 00:49:43,331

Xhafer: very talented.

:

00:49:44,012 --> 00:49:47,162

Laura: And also talented is

our angry duck time machine on

:

00:49:47,162 --> 00:49:49,172

Instagram for our podcast artwork.

:

00:49:49,672 --> 00:49:52,072

Xhafer: And also talented,

our wonderful editor.

:

00:49:52,072 --> 00:49:55,042

Aaron, thanks so much

for all the work you do.

:

00:49:55,132 --> 00:49:58,102

And we know that we lost our audio

feed halfway through this one, so

:

00:49:58,862 --> 00:49:59,252

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:49:59,372 --> 00:50:00,032

Oops.

:

00:50:00,512 --> 00:50:05,012

Doing the, the real hard work of the

podcast are the editors, all of them.

:

00:50:05,012 --> 00:50:09,062

We appreciate and love every editor

who does one of our shows, but

:

00:50:09,062 --> 00:50:10,652

especially Erin for this show.

:

00:50:10,852 --> 00:50:11,182

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:50:11,572 --> 00:50:13,132

All editors everywhere.

:

00:50:13,802 --> 00:50:16,442

Laura: Yes, and thanks

for being here with us.

:

00:50:16,682 --> 00:50:17,732

It's a fun time.

:

00:50:17,862 --> 00:50:23,172

I would love it if you joined us in the

Discord, and if you're like me and you're,

:

00:50:23,292 --> 00:50:27,612

you haven't watched the show before, I

would love to hear also what you think.

:

00:50:27,852 --> 00:50:31,752

If you're not like me and you've watched

the show before, go talk about what

:

00:50:31,752 --> 00:50:33,462

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:

00:50:35,380 --> 00:50:38,890

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:

00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:40,150

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:

00:50:40,445 --> 00:50:40,865

Mm-hmm.

:

00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:44,298

Xhafer: All right, well,

we'll see you next week.

:

00:50:44,298 --> 00:50:44,718

Internet.

:

00:50:45,454 --> 00:50:45,754

Laura: Bye.

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.