BSG S3E17 - Content Warning, Leoben
Laura and Xhafer trade weird finger stories. Laura locks in her Final Five predictions. Xhafer wants to know more about space bugs. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 3, Episode 17: Maelstrom.
Discord: https://discord.gg/MUHKDDk6TN
Transcript
Hello and welcome to What the Fuck?
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:We're a reasonably well done sci-fi
watch cast by a couple of former
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:strangers who are now friends asking
what the fuck just happened in that
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:episode of Battlestar Galactica.
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:I'm Laura,
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:Xhafer: I'm fair.
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:Laura: and that's not
actually our question, but
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:Xhafer: I mean, I will ask what the fuck?
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:Laura: WTF mates.
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:Uh, Should we throw a
content warning on this
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:Xhafer: Yeah, for sure.
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:Content warning child abuse
content warning it's just
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:kind of abuse in general.
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:Content warning, Leo?
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:Laura: yeah.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: that comes with Leo Open.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: But also maybe not.
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:Leo,
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:Xhafer: We'll talk about that at the end.
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:Laura: I'm so confused.
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:Hey, but if this episode is hard
for you listener, go somewhere
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:else and have a great day.
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:We love you.
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:Take care.
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:So Who are you?
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:Battlestar Galactica.
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:What is going on?
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:I'm so confused.
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:Jair.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Um, I mean, we can talk about it at the
end of the episode or we can just talk
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:about it right at the top if you want.
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:You
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:Laura: well, okay, here's
one thing I'd like to know.
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:Xhafer: you've not watched
the next one yet, right?
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:Laura: I have not
watched the next one yet.
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:Okay.
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:Because I got up this morning after I
sent you a very late text message going.
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:Well, that was confusing and you
were like, oh, don't watch the next
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:one till we've recorded the, the
one and I had already watched it.
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:The next one was this one.
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:Xhafer: And so it was like, fuck
it, I'll just watch it so that
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:we can record and talk about it.
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:Because what I didn't want to happen
was for you to watch this episode
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:and then us not record for several
days, which is pretty normal for us.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Sure.
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:Xhafer: Um, yeah, we, we tend to,
you know, we watch on separate
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:schedules, we do our own thing.
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:We meet usually about, we're,
we're good at doing one a week.
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:This is episode five in
eight days for us, which
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:is impressive.
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:Laura: We are pushing
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:Xhafer: Yeah, we're push, like Beth
this morning was all like, I was like,
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:Hey, I'm gonna record with Laura again.
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:And she's like, is everything okay?
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:And I'm like, it's just
the start of the semester.
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:We're building runway.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:And I'm just, so this semester,
if you wanna get it in
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:perspective, listener for me.
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:I will finish my last semester of
classes for the PhD program, and I
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:have to take comprehensive exams at
the end, which shows like, what did
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:I learn the whole time I was here?
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:So I am a little bit worried
about that whole thing, and
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:I'd like to have a buffer.
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:So we're trying to build
buffer and keep buffer.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:if we get another three done, then we hit
our two week break at the end of a season.
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:And that will carry us through
the beginning of April and
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:it is January right now.
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:So that's like an idea of
like how far ahead we are.
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:So, uh, when we're at war with
all of Europe at the end of March
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:here, when this airs, sorry,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Sorry about all our dated references
that have just like, everything's
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:Xhafer: all 6, 7, 6, 7.
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:And you're all that's months old.
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:Sorry.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Whoops.
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:We're just doing it for me, trying
to make my life a little easier, so
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:thanks, listener for putting up with it.
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:Xhafer: I've got like.
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:It conference I'm going to in
March and stuff like, I got
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
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:Xhafer: so I got, I got
reasons to get ahead.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: So season three episode 17,
maelstrom, I warned you not to watch it
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:after you had watched it in my be um.
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:Like I said, do we wanna, I mean,
the end of this episode, right?
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:Laura: Yes.
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:Xhafer: It appears that Carra has died.
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:Laura: It appears that way.
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:Yes.
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:Xhafer: Having not watched the next one,
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:Laura: Uhhuh,
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:Xhafer: where are you at on that?
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:Laura: I am team.
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:I don't think she's dead or I don't
think Katie Ackoff is gone from the show.
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:I don't know if Carere is dead.
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:Xhafer: Okay.
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:Laura: I don't think Katie Soff is gone.
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:Xhafer: Okay.
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:Laura: That's where I'm at.
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:And we can get to like my minutia
theories that Erin had to listen
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:to, like 30 minutes of before bed
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:Xhafer: I want those.
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:And also, I was waiting till
this episode to ask, I want
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:to nail you down on the fight.
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:Oh five
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:Laura: On some silences.
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:Xhafer: some silences.
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:Because this is a good one
to ask that question about,
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:Laura: sure.
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:Yeah,
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:I can see
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:Xhafer: obviously there's
some implication here, right?
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:so there's, there's actually
all kinds of stuff that we can
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:kind of start to talk about now.
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:Um, but we'll get to actually no,
'cause we don't know about, nevermind,
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:we can't, there's, there's one
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:Laura: that was the meanest, meanest
thing you've ever done on this podcast.
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:Xhafer: that statistically can't be true.
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:there's, I forgot that we haven't
heard about one thing yet that
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:we need to hear about before I
can bring up a common fan theory.
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:Laura: Please tell me it's coming in
the next three episodes of the season.
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:Xhafer: no idea when this thing and
that I'm thinking about is mentioned.
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:It might not be till mid-season four.
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:Laura: Oh, that would be incredibly cruel.
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:How dare.
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:How very dare.
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:Xhafer: it is important
though, so I don't wanna,
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Xhafer: I don't wanna spoil.
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:Laura: have to.
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:Yeah.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: alright.
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:Yeah, so our last time on at the
top of this episode is basically
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:just Kira's entire arc Sans Lee,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:It's, it's the Leo been torture.
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:It's like Simon taking her body parts.
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:Uh,
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:Xhafer: race, her special destiny.
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:Laura: yeah, lots of special destiny.
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:And the, the weird eye of Jupiter
that you remember for some reason.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:And.
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:I don't know why, but walking into this
episode, I didn't realize it was gonna
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:be just all Starbuck all the time.
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:This is the spec show.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:This fuck show.
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:Laura: I thought we were gonna do
more groundwork on Ball Tars whole
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:business and move other things forward.
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:It's just this episode came outta
left field for me, is what I'm saying.
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:Like I didn't know
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:Xhafer: It,
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:Laura: anything about anything.
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:Like none of this got spoiled.
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:Rest assured listener.
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:Xhafer: it uh, it very much was
meant to come outta left field.
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:It's supposed to be shocking.
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:It's supposed to just be a, a real,
what the fuck style of moment.
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:and it succeeds at that clearly.
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:Laura: We open it up with like
some really gnarly, Starbuck is
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:dreaming about her old apartment.
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:She's covering up the painting, the, the
maelstrom, if you will, with white paint.
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:And then she like hallucinates Leo, Leo
forcing himself on her, or is she willing?
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:I'm not sure.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, it's uh,
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:Laura: oh, and then she wakes
up to hotdog, like creeping on
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:her because she's been like, mm.
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:Audibly moaning in her sleep about this,
which made me laugh so hard because
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:just recently on one of our episodes, I
was laughing about how I think that hot
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:dogs like STDs should be a running gag.
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:And he's like creeping
on her as she's dreaming.
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:So that's fun.
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:It's fucking weird, but I mean,
you don't know what's going on.
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:You probably got like
people, I mean, pilot bunks.
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:You might have someone with
nightmares, you might have PTSD.
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:There could be a number
of things going on.
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:Laura: there's no privacy.
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:This probably happens all the
time and maybe acknowledging
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:Xhafer: you get that
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:like little curtain thing and we see her
in salmon there, post cotus all the time.
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:So it's like they, they just
be fucking, sometimes, like,
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:that's just life.
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:When you live with six people,
eight people in the same room,
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:however many bunks are in here.
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:10 even.
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:There's quite a few.
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:Laura: yeah.
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:Xhafer: I mean, my college dorm,
it was four of us in one bedroom
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:and avoiding, avoiding other people
having sex was impossible there.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: So it's just, ugh.
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:Laura: Yep.
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:That's that uh, dormitory style life.
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:Xhafer: Don't need that.
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:Laura: So Hilo sees
Starbuck in the bathroom.
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:She's gotten up, she's just gonna
brush her teeth and start her day.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: And we find out hair has
been having night terrors as well.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:She's been having bad dreams
and Hilo, iss all like new
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:Caprica really fracked her up.
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:And Kara's just all like same bro.
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:Laura: Has, do we think it's new caprica
that ed her up or being around a bunch
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:of silents that did not care about her?
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:Xhafer: I mean, I think it's
probably the cys, but Hilo does
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:explicitly say New Caprica.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:But like the, the trauma of being
around a whole bunch of people who
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:seem nice but are like completely
ignoring you when you're crying in pain.
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:Yeah, it's weird.
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:It's weird.
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:But Helo mentions that they're taking
her to a psychiatrist on another ship,
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:and I was like, I feel like that person
maybe should be cross training as a doctor
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:Xhafer: Probably, maybe
at least a little bit.
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:Laura: at least a little bit.
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:Because we just talked about in the
last episode some of the labor supply
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:crunch that's happening in the fleet.
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:I feel like maybe this person should
do a little bit of two things.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: I mean, obviously this fleet
needs a psychiatrist, like, whoa.
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:But it also needs doctors,
like real doctory doctors.
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:So Starbucks says.
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:I don't need any of that business.
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:Even though she is actively
hallucinating herself as a
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:little abused girl in the mirror,
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Ugh.
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:Yeah.
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:Starbuck is like, I would literally
rather have weird sex dreams than
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:go to therapy and it's not great.
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:Laura: you can do two things.
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:Starbucks.
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:God.
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:Xhafer: Uh, Hela is like, okay,
well if therapy's not for you,
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:maybe go see the oracle in Dogville.
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:God, I hate that.
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:That's still a word I have to say.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Dogville not a great look,
guys, we gotta stop saying
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:Xhafer: I will say, I'm like,
Hey, we haven't seen a mystic
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:in town below since Kosh.
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:So I'm in, but also kind of cringe.
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:Um, but we give it a go.
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:I guess this Oracles
thing is creepy dolls.
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:I don't know if you caught that.
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:There's lots of creepy
dolls all behind them.
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:Laura: Oh, I didn't notice.
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:I was,
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:Xhafer: Every Oracle's
got their thing, so.
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:Laura: That's true.
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:So we had the rocks oracle on New Caprica.
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:Xhafer: we had starving Oracle.
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:Uh, We had way too into Pythia, Oracle.
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:Laura: Oh yeah, yeah,
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:Xhafer: Every Oracle's got their thing.
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:This one's this.
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:Creepy dolls.
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:Laura: yeah.
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:She probably has all the
creepy dolls in the fleet.
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:Xhafer: She probably has the
majority of them, I hope.
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:Laura: she probably has all the
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:Xhafer: there might be another side
episode we don't know about yet.
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:That's all about the creepy doll ship, but
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:Laura: It's, it's the black market.
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:Uh, There's the black market for creepy
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:Xhafer: porcelain market
and it's disgusting.
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:Fucking creepy dolls.
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:I hate creepy dolls.
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:Laura: I, I didn't notice that I
was, I was focused on the plot points
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:they were trying to get me at where
she gets a token of the Goddess
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:Aurora from a, just like a dish.
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:And the oracle tells her you take that
'cause you'll need it when the time comes.
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:Xhafer: It just starts quoting, start
this Oracle they like, they like sit
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:down and this oracle is all like just
starts quoting Lee from season one
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:and motherfucker, if this is me, like if
this happens to me, I'm getting on teams
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:with President Rosalyn and being like,
you need to fucking roly doctrine and
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:airlock this motherfucker immediately
because they are a silent, you don't
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:know this level without some shit.
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:Laura: How would she know this?
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:Well, but in this society we have
these mystic people who just do things
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:and this
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:Xhafer: Kamala and it's making her see
things that we all wish were there.
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:Laura: Yeah,
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:Xhafer: I know Dramatic Tsip
doesn't make good radio.
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:I'm sorry, listener.
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:That was mostly for Laura.
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:Laura: it was a dramatic pause though.
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:That can be audio.
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:That's a thing.
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:yeah, so she knows a whole bunch of
stuff that Leo Obin said, and she
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:couldn't possibly know any other way.
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:And because Starbuck is enough, like
indoctrinated in the religion, she's like,
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:okay, you're some kind of powerful person.
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:But she also knows a lot about her mom.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Beck never talks about her mom.
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:We, we do find out, she
told Anders some things.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, we get that in a minute.
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:But before then, Kara's like,
this is getting awfully close to
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:therapy and just fucking leaves.
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:And then the Oracle's all like, you're
gonna see Leo open soon to theme.
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:Laura: Oh, so scary.
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:Yeah.
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:Um, bin is is coming for you and he
cannot be stopped specifically is like
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:the language and he'll show you the way.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Don't like any of it.
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:It's all bad.
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:Xhafer: We go to theme
survivor Count 41,400.
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:No change.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:I think somebody just really wanted a
nice round number, a couple episodes.
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:Like just like, just gimme that.
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:Just gimme that even number
for a couple episodes.
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:Yeah.
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:It feels.
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:Xhafer: The Flotilla is at a planet
and Kara is with Sam, who agrees.
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:Her mom did a number on her.
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:She says that her mom taught her fear gets
you killed, and anger keeps you alive.
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:And Andrew says she gave you plenty
to be angry about, didn't she?
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: Huh
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:Laura: huh.
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:Xhafer: huh.
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:Laura: the, the purpose that
we're stopped here is refueling.
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:It seems like we've got to fuel all the
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:Xhafer: They gotta refill all that
sand on the Tillium freighter.
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:Laura: Everybody's sand tanks
are getting a little low.
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:Xhafer: Well, the freighter takes
the sand and makes it liquid.
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:Laura: Oh, is that it?
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:'cause we know, we know Tillium is
a liquid from the shot we get of
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:inside the hose at the cold open.
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:A last episode.
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:So
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: no solid fuels here.
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:Laura: Good.
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:Good, good, good.
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:She does give us a nice little
story of how she got revenge on
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:her mom once for her abuse, which
of course resulted in more abuse,
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:but Starbuck found it satisfying.
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:We find out her mom was
in military services.
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:Xhafer: was a marine.
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:Laura: she was a marine.
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:She was stationed on a very buggy planet.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, I wanna know more
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:about these space bugs.
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:Laura: Space bugs.
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:Xhafer: bugs.
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:Space bugs.
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:Laura: It's gotta be
giant space bugs, right?
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:Or are they just lots of them?
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:Are they just big swarms of space
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:Xhafer: I think it's big swarms.
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:It sounds like it's swarmy space
bugs, not giant space bugs.
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:Laura: which is worse to huge affair.
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:Big, big space bug or swarm
of lots of space bugs.
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:Xhafer: I feel like up to a certain
size it's a lot easier to deal
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:with Big bug than lots of bugs.
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:Laura: Yeah, lots of bugs.
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:Is hella scary.
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:Xhafer: Like, would I rather
fight a thousand ants?
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:Well, that's actually not enough.
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:Would I rather fight 10,000 ants
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:or an ant?
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:The size of 10,000 ants and the answer's
probably ant the size of 10,000 ants.
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:Although 10,000 ants might
still not be that bad.
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:It's a lot of ants.
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:Laura: A million ants.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, ants.
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:Ants are probably not a good, would
I rather fight a hundred spiders or a
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:spider the size of a hundred spiders?
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:Laura: go.
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:Yeah.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:I can see why this bothered her mom a lot.
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:I can see why it set off the PTSD.
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:Xhafer: for sure.
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:Rude as
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:Laura: She basically went down to
the pet store and bought a bunch of
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:bugs and put them in her mom's shoes.
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:That was the story.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Fake bugs, little plastic bugs,
because when she tried to stomp them,
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:they bounced around and she couldn't
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:Laura: Oh, I thought
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:Xhafer: freaking her out even more.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Fun.
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:Yeah.
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:But uh, Anders also tries to convince
Starbuck that she should take some
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:time off and come with him somewhere.
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:He said something about a shuttle,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: she's not gonna do that.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, she's too busy being
Hotshot viper pilot to do that,
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:Laura: Yep.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: not gonna happen.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Oh.
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:Real quick, she, her mom's revenge on
her was slamming her hand in a door
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:for that bug thing, which is so fucked.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Have we have, have I mentioned
on pod about my funky left hand?
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:Xhafer: Oh.
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:Um, no, I have never noticed that before.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:So listen, listener, my left hand uh, my
ring finger and my pinky are much shorter
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:than my other fingers, and it is because
this, not that somebody slammed my hand in
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:a door intentionally, but it did get stuck
in a door and broken, and I, let me get
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:the knuckles in there, like I don't have.
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:Like my knuckles aren't right either.
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:So, can't damage you for life as a child.
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:Xhafer: Damn,
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:Laura: crazy enough, I'm not
the only person I know who had
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:that exact same thing happen and
has the exact same left hand.
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:I know another person who
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:Xhafer: Wow.
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:Laura: has this
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:Xhafer: Same two fingers.
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:Laura: same two fingers.
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:We were like, oh my gosh,
we look exactly the same.
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:Xhafer: You've met my brother-in-law.
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:Laura: Uhhuh.
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:Xhafer: He's got a super janky
finger on his left hand, although
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:not from getting slammed in a
door, but it was spear fighting.
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:He was spear fighting and another
spear came in and his spear got
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:his, his spear hand, like the
half got crushed in between two
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:Laura: Oh
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:Xhafer: up his finger.
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:It's kind of gross, like for not
being completely like deformed.
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:It's very close.
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:Laura: Yeah, I, I empathize.
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:Xhafer: And next time you
see him ask to see it.
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:I'm sure you can share
weird finger stories
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: my sister sits there cringing.
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:Laura: I don't know.
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:I want your sister to like me.
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:Xhafer: She doesn't like anyone.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Xhafer: That's not true.
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:Laura: She did like the soup because
they've kept making the soup.
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:I saw
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:Xhafer: they've continued
to make that soup.
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:We've continued to make that soup.
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:Laura: That's the best soup.
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:Xhafer: Um, we make it a little
bit spicier Beth, actually, I've
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:made it and Beth has made it.
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:Beth is better at it than me.
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:And uh, yeah, we just use white
beans instead of chicken and it's
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:really good.
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:Laura: Yep.
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:I've done that a couple times, but
listeners, if you need to throw some
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:money at Stephen Colbert, he has a
great cookbook with a really great soup.
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:You'll figure it out.
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:You'll figure out the one.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:It's an excellent soup.
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:all right, so we're on
day four refueling here.
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:They're flying around
the planet on patrol.
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:It's Uck and hotdog again, and
Starbucks sees a silent Raider.
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:The fleet goes into emergency
prep and she goes down to engage.
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:There's nothing on Datis, but this is one
of those planets that fucks with Datis.
482
:Laura: the fucky planet.
483
:Yeah.
484
:Xhafer: Yeah.
485
:Part of me wonders, man, if this is
like the answer to the Fermi paradox
486
:and we just don't know it because
we have no way of like observing
487
:it because it's all we're used to.
488
:It's a single sample size problem
where our planet is just hard to
489
:fucking see Andres or some shit.
490
:Like there's just something about
our system and we just have no
491
:idea because it's the only one
we know of to be able to see it.
492
:And all of our technology would
obviously be adapted to it
493
:uh,
494
:Laura: But nobody
495
:Xhafer: but, and no one else,
there's completely unaware.
496
:I find a very interesting answer to
the Fermi paradox that would be, make
497
:for a fun story, be one where Earth
is special, but humanity is not.
498
:Laura: yeah.
499
:I I really like that.
500
:Yeah.
501
:Xhafer: I think that a lot of people,
like if we were to find that, that's
502
:the answer to the firming paradox and
meet aliens next week or some shit.
503
:and it's all like, oh yeah,
well there's a ton of stuff just
504
:you're hard to see on the radar.
505
:It's just something with your star.
506
:It's weird.
507
:And we, I think a lot of people would
have a big problem with Earth being
508
:special and humanity not being special,
509
:Laura: Oh, a hundred
510
:Xhafer: and I want those
people to have that problem
511
:Laura: Yep.
512
:Yep.
513
:Yeah, she's, she's seeing things
uh, she's going really low and it
514
:seems like this is a gas giant.
515
:Yes.
516
:And go too low.
517
:You're gonna get crushed by the gravity.
518
:Apollo keeps ordering her to
pull out, and finally she does.
519
:She lets it
520
:Xhafer: Yeah.
521
:She follows it down into the atmosphere,
into a big storm for a minute.
522
:But eventually Apollo gets
through to her and she pulls up
523
:Laura: Yeah.
524
:Xhafer: after a ton of calls.
525
:Laura: And she definitely
had a close call with it.
526
:She had like a boom, it
scraped her on its way out.
527
:So
528
:Xhafer: Also, I want, I wanna call
out, there's a really good shot in here
529
:when she's in that storm before that
530
:happens Where there's a lightning strike
and in the like light reflection in the
531
:cockpit of the lightning strike, you
see her capric crow apartment in Leo.
532
:Laura: Oh yes, I did notice
533
:Xhafer: It's like a blink and you
miss it kind of a thing, but it's
534
:really beautifully well done shot.
535
:Laura: Yeah.
536
:Yeah.
537
:That's the kind of thing I sometimes
miss doing notes, but I, I caught that
538
:one, but she's clearly
got it on the brain.
539
:Xhafer: Yeah.
540
:But yeah, so they think
she's, she thinks she's hit.
541
:She pulls up, gets back on the hangar
deck and there is no impact on the hole.
542
:Laura: Yeah.
543
:There's no damage from this big old hit.
544
:She
545
:took weird.
546
:Xhafer: The pilots review the
flight footage and there's no
547
:raider to be found anywhere.
548
:Laura: Yeah.
549
:Xhafer: Coddle checks her out, physically
fit to serve, but emotionally not so much.
550
:And this is Lee communicating
this to the dad role.
551
:They're talking about Kara, so we cuddle.
552
:Doesn't say this, but Lee says
that Coddle says that if it were
553
:peace time, every single one of
them would be grounded for PTSD.
554
:Laura: Yeah, I was gonna say like, yes,
physically fit to serve, not emotionally
555
:fit, but has Starbuck been any other way
556
:Xhafer: That's kind of the
main point of the episode.
557
:Laura: Yeah.
558
:Yeah.
559
:We don't have a choice.
560
:We have to serve
561
:Xhafer: Yeah.
562
:Laura: except for Bulldog.
563
:Bulldog gets a pass.
564
:Xhafer: Yep.
565
:Laura: Yeah.
566
:Trying to kill the dad.
567
:Merle really cramps your
military career, doesn't it?
568
:Xhafer: sure does.
569
:Lee says the only thing he, that he
thinks is holding Kara together is her
570
:identity as a steely-eyed Viber jock.
571
:And if he grounds her and takes it away,
it might get much worse, and that would
572
:align with her when she was grounded
right after New Caprica for so long.
573
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
574
:Xhafer: Kara is at the
wall of Remembrance.
575
:She asks Lee where he wants his photo.
576
:Kara says next to Kat,
and Lee says next to Duck.
577
:And Nora.
578
:Laura: Yeah.
579
:This felt like a, Hey, did you
go watch the Webi episodes?
580
:You probably should have watched the Webi
581
:Xhafer: and if you did, you'd know that
Lee never interacts with Duck or Nora.
582
:And when their pilot's on
Galactica, he's on Pegasus.
583
:And when they're on the
surface, he's on Pegasus.
584
:He never has a scene with them.
585
:They never talk.
586
:Laura: Yeah.
587
:But he says they're great card players
and that's what he wants to do for all
588
:eternity is play cards with Duck and Nora,
589
:you couldn't find anybody else.
590
:Xhafer: Right.
591
:Like his brother, famous
dead character on the show.
592
:Laura: Yeah, like I, I get his brother's
probably not on the wall of remembrance
593
:because he might be, we might be
using his general remembrance, but
594
:it kind of seems like it was like,
595
:Xhafer: the genocide.
596
:Well, it's anyone who's died since
the diaspora on paper, I think.
597
:But.
598
:Like you telling me, no one
threw that up there for sure.
599
:Laura: yeah.
600
:Or you could just say, I, you know.
601
:The person I want to
be with is not up here.
602
:You know?
603
:I wanna be with Zach.
604
:Xhafer: Yeah.
605
:Or d your wife put a picture of me up
here next to D your, you know, put one in
606
:with so that there's space for D or next
to you, even like, oh, I'll be there too.
607
:You know, like,
608
:we'll all fly wing for each other in
heaven, or whatever they're talking about.
609
:It's, it's such a dumb fucking answer.
610
:Laura: yeah.
611
:Duck and Nora.
612
:I was just like, okay, sure.
613
:Xhafer: We get it.
614
:Laura: We, we could have written
that a little bit better, I think.
615
:But that would've, that would've gone
like too deep, I think is the problem.
616
:They're just trying to
get through this scene.
617
:Yeah.
618
:So they make a deal, you know,
whoever dies first, we'll put the
619
:picture up or won't put a picture up.
620
:Xhafer: Yeah.
621
:Laura: The other person will put the
622
:picture
623
:Xhafer: we go.
624
:Laura: And she asked about, Hey, what's,
what's Papa Dama gonna do about this?
625
:Xhafer: Well, Papa Dama says it's my call.
626
:And she's like, so what are you gonna do?
627
:And he's all like, I trust your eyes over
Dre us, but you need to get some rest
628
:before you actually start seeing things.
629
:Laura: Okay.
630
:As she's actively seeing things, by the
way, because she's watching the candle
631
:drippings make the eye of Jupiter.
632
:Xhafer: Yeah.
633
:Laura: But at this point, I was kind
of mad because I was like, we know that
634
:Starbuck had an incredibly fucky time
on New Caprica with the insane Silent,
635
:the one who held her in a replica
of her apartment, making her be his
636
:Barbie doll in his little dream house.
637
:The whole time of the occupation, but
nobody raises the possibility of like,
638
:could there really be a Raider down there
that is specifically targeting Starbuck?
639
:That could be trying to kidnap her
because that, that s was fucking crazy.
640
:Xhafer: Yeah.
641
:Laura: But nobody says that.
642
:No one considers that
643
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
644
:Uh, Adama updates, Roslyn, there's only
six ships left to refuel Kara walks
645
:past them and they do the thing from
the miniseries, the cat out in the rain
646
:thing that they haven't done in 30,
40, 60 episodes, whatever we're at.
647
:Laura: Yeah, I was a
little confused by it.
648
:'cause I was like, wait a second.
649
:Am I supposed to register
650
:this?
651
:Yeah, I guess I was.
652
:Xhafer: She gives him the figure
she got from the oracle to be
653
:the masthead for his model ship,
654
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
655
:This is the time she needed it,
656
:apparently.
657
:Xhafer: Kara sees the childhood
version of herself again while looking
658
:into the pit of her Viper and going
over its issues or status with Tyro.
659
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
660
:Xhafer: And this is where we get
the flashback to learn that this
661
:is in fact baby Kara and not the.
662
:Kid that they lied to.
663
:Casey,
664
:thank you.
665
:Laura: else?
666
:Yeah.
667
:Yeah.
668
:She's remembering her mom
and just how terrible she
669
:was.
670
:Do have we ever heard anything
about Starbucks's dad?
671
:Xhafer: No.
672
:Laura: I, yeah.
673
:I feel like there might have been a
discussion one time that about him, but
674
:I don't remember what the details were.
675
:But at this point it seems
like it's only mom in the
676
:picture.
677
:Xhafer: Yeah, mom.
678
:Mom did the raising.
679
:Laura: Yeah.
680
:I don't know if mom drove dad away,
if that's something we heard about.
681
:Xhafer: I don't remember.
682
:Laura: yeah.
683
:I'm not totally clear.
684
:I feel like it was mentioned once,
something about her dad, but it,
685
:after like the scenes watching her
and her mom, it kind of becomes
686
:clear why she needed the dad morel.
687
:Xhafer: Yeah, Kara just completely
retracts from a reality and just like
688
:hangs out sitting next to her viper
until Lee comes to check on her.
689
:And she says that she doesn't
trust herself to fly at the moment.
690
:And Lee's all like, I trust you to fly.
691
:Famously.
692
:This has gone great
for Karara and Adama's.
693
:When we make this statement,
694
:it's a real mirror of Kara and Zach
695
:Laura: Yeah.
696
:Xhafer: in his flight training.
697
:It's what it's supposed to be.
698
:It's supposed to put you in the
fields and it's also foreshadowing
699
:for what's about to happen.
700
:Laura: yeah.
701
:Lee, this is so stupid.
702
:Xhafer: it is
703
:Laura: He wouldn't make
this call for anyone else.
704
:Anyone else is having these problems.
705
:Xhafer: Grounded not even a
706
:Laura: and say, you're grounded.
707
:Xhafer: Yep.
708
:Take a week.
709
:We'll see how you're doing.
710
:Laura: he can't do her this
kindness 'cause he's wrapped
711
:up in something about her.
712
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
713
:She asks him how things
are going with Dee.
714
:He says they're the
best they've ever been.
715
:And she says it's funny right
back where they started.
716
:I'm the hotshot pilot.
717
:You're the cag, and that's
all they'll ever be.
718
:Laura: Yeah.
719
:I just wanna point out that saying
that they're the best they've ever
720
:been is not necessarily great.
721
:Xhafer: Very true.
722
:Laura: It's a very diplomatic
answer on a level, but, okay.
723
:he doesn't answer her about,
that's all we'll ever be.
724
:Xhafer: yeah.
725
:Laura: I think that's interesting too.
726
:Xhafer: I mean proof and right
by the end of the episode
727
:they fly a
728
:patrol.
729
:Laura: though.
730
:Xhafer: Yeah.
731
:Laura: not what he wants.
732
:He would, he would say something if he
was like, yep, that is okay with me.
733
:Xhafer: Yep.
734
:He doesn't, it's 'cause Lee's terrible.
735
:We've established this,
736
:Laura: right, right.
737
:Xhafer: They fly a patrol and
she sees the Raider again.
738
:She calls it up.
739
:Adama chooses to believe her and
sets condition One Starbucks ship
740
:gets hit by something knocking
Kara unconscious in the storm.
741
:The ship alarms become her snooze
742
:alarms
743
:and she finds herself in
the apartment with Leo bin.
744
:Laura: Gonna have a big day.
745
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
746
:Now she knows she's unconscious
and that this is a dream.
747
:She calls it
748
:Laura: yes.
749
:Mm-hmm.
750
:She says we're not really here.
751
:I'm out.
752
:Cold on a silent ship, is what she says.
753
:Xhafer: That that's possible.
754
:Yeah.
755
:Laura: He knows that she hasn't
told anyone about her maelstrom and
756
:the eye of Jupiter and this storm,
757
:all of it.
758
:And he says that her problem is
she's afraid of death in the unknown.
759
:Xhafer: Yep.
760
:Laura: She's been afraid since that day
and we're gonna find out what that day is.
761
:Xhafer: Like immediately we flash back
to Kara visiting her mom six years ago.
762
:Kara has just graduated flight school
16th in her class, and mom is all
763
:like, your a minus is missing a line.
764
:You fuck up,
765
:Laura: Her mom is so mean, so mean.
766
:She's like, yeah, 16th place.
767
:Why not first?
768
:And
769
:Xhafer: wasting your gifts.
770
:Laura: I know you have demerits
as long as my arm and Starbucks
771
:tries to point out like, I got
16th out of like 500 or whatever.
772
:Like
773
:Xhafer: it's a percentage
wise, it's very good.
774
:Laura: Yeah.
775
:Yeah.
776
:But not good enough for this mom.
777
:Xhafer: Nope.
778
:God.
779
:Their relationship is so fucking toxic.
780
:Laura: I feel so bad for Starbuck here
because you can tell it's all over her
781
:face that she is like, maybe this is it.
782
:Maybe this is the moment
mom is finally impressed.
783
:Maybe she will finally love me.
784
:And the answer is no.
785
:She can't do that
786
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
787
:Laura: for some
788
:reason.
789
:Xhafer: she reads her mom's mail and
learns that she's got terminal cancer,
790
:Laura: Yeah,
791
:Xhafer: and they argue some more,
and Carol leaves never coming back.
792
:Her mom dies five weeks later,
but Leo Obin offers her a chance
793
:in her dream to say the goodbye.
794
:She never said.
795
:Laura: yeah, yeah.
796
:It's not too late in this
797
:dreamscape.
798
:Xhafer: She's got a pile of Kara's things
on her as she's like about to pass.
799
:including what must be an actual
middle school photo of Katie Soff.
800
:Laura: Yeah.
801
:Xhafer: I love this shit.
802
:I love when they use old photos of actors.
803
:Instead of finding someone similar or
like more recently faking it out with AI
804
:because it's just like, this is clearly
a middle school picture, day picture.
805
:It's got that like blue cloud background.
806
:Every picture of a student in the
nineties in an American school
807
:looked exactly fucking like this,
808
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
809
:Xhafer: and it is.
810
:So perfect because it is somehow
completely immersive because this is
811
:exactly what she looked like as a child.
812
:It is an actual picture of her
childhood, but it is also completely
813
:immersion breaking because it's
clearly from an American middle school
814
:and it's this perfect moment of, it's
the exact thing it needs to be, but it's
815
:also otherworldly and doesn't belong.
816
:And I fucking love it.
817
:I love it when this is the, my favorite
part of watching movies with older
818
:actors where they'll use younger pictures
of them in scenes sometimes as like
819
:photos in the background or something.
820
:Love it.
821
:Love it, love it.
822
:Love it, love it.
823
:Big
824
:Laura: Yeah, me too.
825
:It's so, so cool.
826
:Better than any AI
827
:swap, for sure.
828
:Xhafer: for sure.
829
:Laura: the whole folder is neat because
it's got all the little, like, you know.
830
:The homeworks with the a plus plus
on it and the mandala drawings
831
:and just a little slice of life of
what it was like to be little Cara.
832
:Xhafer: Yep.
833
:She asked her mom for some reassurance
on doing the thing here, on her special
834
:destiny on the thing that her mom
was always trying to prepare her for
835
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
836
:Xhafer: unnamed thing.
837
:And she's all like, you got it
because you're, you, you're my
838
:daughter, it's gonna be fine.
839
:Uh, and then her mom dies
840
:Laura: Yeah.
841
:Xhafer: and Leo is like,
see, death isn't so bad.
842
:Meat bagg.
843
:And it's like, maybe,
wait a minute, asshole.
844
:Laura: Let, let it breathe.
845
:No, we only have a tight
45 in this episode.
846
:We gotta keep it going.
847
:Xhafer: Gotta keep it moving.
848
:Starbuck at this point realizes
that this is not Leo Obin.
849
:This is another mind person
850
:Laura: Okay.
851
:We had the conversation the
852
:Xhafer: two episodes ago, and I'm all
like, I'm pretty sure it's like, I, I,
853
:when we had that conversation, I'm all
like, I think it's like in the next
854
:couple of e like, I'm think, I'm pretty
sure we get Mindly open in that episode.
855
:It had been a minute.
856
:I hadn't watched it yet.
857
:but I'm like, I, we're gonna get one
real soon here, so I'm just all like, oh,
858
:Laura: I told Aaron, I was like,
I think this is what he meant.
859
:Xhafer: yeah, yeah.
860
:So we get copilot open
861
:Laura: I.
862
:Xhafer: because he's the worst one.
863
:Laura: Mm.
864
:Okay.
865
:It doesn't flow as good
as some of our other work
866
:Xhafer: That's true, but thematically
I really like it because,
867
:Laura: Okay.
868
:' Xhafer: cause they suck.
869
:Laura: Yeah,
870
:Xhafer: she tells Lee she's
not afraid anymore and dives
871
:down further into the storm,
872
:Laura: yeah.
873
:This is so incredibly sad.
874
:Xhafer: gives Chase.
875
:And when we cut back to Star,
be she's bathed in light now she
876
:tells Lee to just let her go.
877
:Don't wait for me.
878
:And her Viper explodes under
the atmospheric pressure.
879
:Lee reports in, she went into the storm.
880
:Papa's like, oh, we'll send
a search and rescue crew.
881
:And Lee's all like, no, no, no, no, no.
882
:You don't understand.
883
:Laura: Yeah.
884
:Xhafer: Her ship is scuttled.
885
:There's, there's nothing left here.
886
:Laura: Pieces.
887
:Xhafer: Everyone in CIC is shook
888
:Laura: The whole time that
she's like going down and
889
:Lee's begging her to come up.
890
:Galactic is also like scuttling support.
891
:They're like Ty's like she
should be afraid she's about
892
:to get her ass blown a apart.
893
:And Galactus was trying to send
in hot dog and somebody else, I
894
:think, to get her outta there.
895
:And, they all don't
want this for star bees.
896
:Xhafer: Yeah.
897
:This is, no one really is
sure of what's going on.
898
:And it's, everything's just kind
of crazy 'cause no one can believe
899
:that this actually happened.
900
:Laura: Yeah.
901
:And then we cut to Adama looking
at the Goddess Aurora, and he
902
:puts it on the bow of his ship
903
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
904
:Laura: and he starts to cry.
905
:And I was like, no, no, no.
906
:And he breaks his little ship.
907
:Xhafer: Smashes the thing to credits.
908
:Laura: Wow.
909
:Xhafer: Yep.
910
:So, I'm gonna ask you to rate
this episode and we'll do that.
911
:And then I want to talk about Starbucks.
912
:Dying, dying, dying.
913
:Whatever you feel, dying
or dying with air quotes.
914
:Where you feel it's at, what obviously I'm
gonna probably not say a whole lot there.
915
:Laura: Yeah, I know you
916
:can't.
917
:Xhafer: So let's rate this thing,
918
:Laura: right.
919
:I feel like it's very, very good.
920
:I.
921
:Don't have any qualms problems
with it, except for, I really
922
:wish somebody had mentioned that.
923
:Hey, there was that one fucking silent.
924
:Who could be fucking with Starbuck?
925
:I can, I feel like I'm gonna
give it an 11 just 'cause I
926
:feel like there's room to grow.
927
:It could have been a 12.
928
:Xhafer: Yeah.
929
:Laura: But not, not quite.
930
:Just, just short,
931
:Xhafer: Okay.
932
:Laura: what about you?
933
:Xhafer: I abstain.
934
:Laura: Why,
935
:Xhafer: I can't say,
936
:Laura: why?
937
:This is gonna be fun for
somebody who's not me, I guess.
938
:Xhafer: yeah, no.
939
:No.
940
:I just, um, yeah.
941
:Sorry to you.
942
:Laura: Huh?
943
:Xhafer: Yeah, it's not gonna do it.
944
:No,
945
:Laura: Okay.
946
:I'm trying to figure out, I feel
like this is trying to tell me
947
:something.
948
:Xhafer: not.
949
:It's actively not trying
to tell you something.
950
:Actually, the thing I'm trying
to tell you is that I'm not
951
:trying to tell you something.
952
:Laura: Hmm hmm.
953
:You're, you're unable to rate this
episode independently of your other
954
:knowledge about other episodes.
955
:Is that
956
:Xhafer: That's fair.
957
:Laura: okay?
958
:Huh?
959
:Xhafer: Yeah.
960
:So what do you think happened with Kara?
961
:Laura: I feel like there's a few
different options that are all like
962
:mutually exclusive of one another.
963
:Perhaps.
964
:We could have that Charact
race is really dead.
965
:Xhafer: yeah.
966
:I mean, her ship exploded
967
:Leo and told her
968
:Laura: has blowed.
969
:Xhafer: Uh, you know, she hallucinated
her biggest regret in life, which
970
:was not saying goodbye to her mom.
971
:Before she passed and
then her ship loaded.
972
:That seems real definitive to me.
973
:Laura: She, her mind person, I guess could
have just been talking her into giving up
974
:Xhafer: Yeah.
975
:Laura: and like, let's resolve
this thing so you can check out.
976
:Let it go
977
:Xhafer: Now the mind people, because
we've now encountered a handful of them,
978
:Laura: Yeah.
979
:Xhafer: Do you have any
thoughts on that in general?
980
:Because it, when it was just
Baltar and six pt, it was pretty
981
:easy to go, well, this is just
some cylon thing or something.
982
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
983
:Xhafer: But now we've got
Raus, we've got Claud Ann,
984
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
985
:Xhafer: we've got Cobin, you know,
it's not just the one instance, and
986
:that's assuming that they're related.
987
:They might not be related.
988
:It might just be a storytelling device.
989
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
990
:Xhafer: A way to frame someone's inner
monologue with another actor without
991
:having to have them do a voiceover.
992
:You know?
993
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
994
:Xhafer: Um, so maybe it's that, or
maybe there's something else going on.
995
:I don't know.
996
:I would like your thoughts on it.
997
:Laura: I feel like Raus and six PT are
there under the illusion of like helping
998
:their, not human, but their like physical
counterpart to grow in quotations
999
:Xhafer: bit.
:
00:44:22,812 --> 00:44:24,552
Laura: and maybe improve.
:
00:44:24,972 --> 00:44:25,392
Except
:
00:44:25,947 --> 00:44:26,367
Xhafer: but yeah.
:
00:44:26,502 --> 00:44:28,392
Laura: they're not, they're
not good at it though.
:
00:44:28,392 --> 00:44:29,712
Like they don't seem
:
00:44:31,691 --> 00:44:32,781
Xhafer: They seemed flawed.
:
00:44:33,641 --> 00:44:34,151
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:44:34,181 --> 00:44:37,451
They, they seem to be in
bad faith or something.
:
00:44:38,651 --> 00:44:39,371
Yeah.
:
00:44:40,816 --> 00:44:46,336
Is it, is it because Gaas got
tangled up in, in six PTs business
:
00:44:46,336 --> 00:44:47,956
and he gave her a bad ruckus.
:
00:44:47,956 --> 00:44:48,226
I don't
:
00:44:48,646 --> 00:44:49,926
Xhafer: I mean, all crocuses are bad.
:
00:44:50,126 --> 00:44:50,526
Crocuses.
:
00:44:51,121 --> 00:44:53,671
Laura: All Gruse are bad grouses.
:
00:44:54,393 --> 00:45:01,897
but the two that we just
encountered, Claud Ann and Co Obin,
:
00:45:02,702 --> 00:45:08,713
Claud Ann was there just kind of like
to, to heckle a adama except her one
:
00:45:08,713 --> 00:45:11,623
piece of good advice was like, tell your
son you love him every once in a while.
:
00:45:11,623 --> 00:45:12,643
You big stupid idiot.
:
00:45:13,543 --> 00:45:16,063
That's not a bad piece of advice.
:
00:45:16,153 --> 00:45:16,243
Xhafer: Nope.
:
00:45:16,243 --> 00:45:16,998
Pretty good piece of advice.
:
00:45:18,163 --> 00:45:19,123
Laura: Pretty good piece of advice.
:
00:45:19,213 --> 00:45:21,613
It also seems like the thing
he has the biggest trouble
:
00:45:21,613 --> 00:45:24,313
with, he can't seem to do it.
:
00:45:25,502 --> 00:45:28,112
they Don't seem as like malicious to me.
:
00:45:28,112 --> 00:45:28,352
Yeah.
:
00:45:28,352 --> 00:45:34,629
Claud Ann's like not great,
but it really seemed like.
:
00:45:35,214 --> 00:45:37,419
The bin of the mind Copi.
:
00:45:37,439 --> 00:45:39,024
Leo Obin was like
:
00:45:40,109 --> 00:45:41,029
Xhafer: Actively killing Kara.
:
00:45:42,514 --> 00:45:44,734
Laura: yeah, but he
was like trying to like
:
00:45:45,961 --> 00:45:49,381
help her stop suffering, I guess.
:
00:45:49,381 --> 00:45:49,801
I don't know.
:
00:45:49,831 --> 00:45:51,001
I'm so confused.
:
00:45:52,271 --> 00:45:53,951
I'm so confused by this whole thing.
:
00:45:55,001 --> 00:45:55,301
Xhafer: Yep.
:
00:45:56,591 --> 00:46:00,621
Laura: I feel like, I told Erin,
I was like, you know, I don't know
:
00:46:00,621 --> 00:46:06,441
the, the story of the show because
I can't, but I was like, if at this
:
00:46:06,441 --> 00:46:12,966
point we've hit the uncertainty about
season four, like we don't know what
:
00:46:12,966 --> 00:46:18,756
the hell's happening and we're not sure
if we're getting it or whatever, or
:
00:46:19,986 --> 00:46:21,786
how long it's gonna be or something.
:
00:46:22,176 --> 00:46:26,406
I could see perhaps maybe the actress
Katie Sackhoff being frustrated.
:
00:46:27,696 --> 00:46:36,265
And asking to be like, write something
that if I don't come back it makes sense
:
00:46:37,255 --> 00:46:37,435
Xhafer: Hmm.
:
00:46:37,855 --> 00:46:39,205
I mean, her career was kind of taken off.
:
00:46:41,095 --> 00:46:43,585
I think she did redick
right around this time
:
00:46:44,455 --> 00:46:44,965
Laura: Oh, okay.
:
00:46:45,055 --> 00:46:45,385
Yeah.
:
00:46:45,415 --> 00:46:51,175
Like, or maybe she needed to be
out for a while and so this like
:
00:46:52,135 --> 00:46:52,915
gets it there.
:
00:46:53,725 --> 00:46:58,345
But I was like, it could just be
that, it could be that Carra got
:
00:46:58,345 --> 00:47:02,158
killed because she listened to her
mind person and her mind person was
:
00:47:02,158 --> 00:47:03,298
just actively trying to kill her.
:
00:47:04,018 --> 00:47:04,438
I don't know.
:
00:47:05,248 --> 00:47:07,193
Or you know, I was like, it could be that.
:
00:47:07,783 --> 00:47:10,543
We have the situation I
described that I was mad.
:
00:47:10,543 --> 00:47:16,093
Nobody in the episode addressed that
like Cylons are fucking with her somehow.
:
00:47:16,093 --> 00:47:18,013
Like Leo Obin has a way to fuck with her.
:
00:47:18,013 --> 00:47:22,325
He put a chip in her brain or
something, and he's driving her
:
00:47:22,325 --> 00:47:27,875
nuts so that this Raider that no one
else can see is gonna pick her up.
:
00:47:28,335 --> 00:47:28,755
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:47:29,135 --> 00:47:33,425
Laura: Like when her ship explode,
we're just gonna suck her up there.
:
00:47:33,625 --> 00:47:33,915
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:47:34,595 --> 00:47:34,885
Yeah.
:
00:47:34,885 --> 00:47:37,550
If that raider's out there, right.
:
00:47:37,685 --> 00:47:38,075
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:47:38,645 --> 00:47:44,014
If the Raider's real, then
there's that possibility.
:
00:47:44,188 --> 00:47:45,388
Next possibility.
:
00:47:46,408 --> 00:47:49,018
Could her special destiny
be that she's a silent
:
00:47:49,123 --> 00:47:49,543
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:47:50,788 --> 00:47:54,208
Laura: and her mom's just
been trying to harden her up?
:
00:47:54,448 --> 00:47:55,048
I don't know.
:
00:47:55,408 --> 00:47:59,158
Xhafer: Well, I mean, that raises a bunch
of questions about her parentage too,
:
00:48:00,471 --> 00:48:04,111
because, you know, boomer had parents
that she remembered and would tell
:
00:48:04,111 --> 00:48:06,511
stories about, but also didn't exist.
:
00:48:06,867 --> 00:48:07,167
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:48:07,834 --> 00:48:11,404
could it be that that Star
Bes is one of our final five?
:
00:48:11,709 --> 00:48:14,104
Xhafer: Is that what you feel
to segue into the next thing?
:
00:48:16,354 --> 00:48:18,574
Laura: No, I don't think that's it.
:
00:48:18,934 --> 00:48:18,964
Xhafer: Okay.
:
00:48:19,924 --> 00:48:25,654
Laura: I feel like the show wants me to
think that she's a asylum because in, in
:
00:48:25,654 --> 00:48:33,113
all of the Leo Ben Chatter, he mentions
he's going to guide her between the
:
00:48:33,113 --> 00:48:40,793
InBetween place between life and death,
and we know that that's where the, the
:
00:48:40,823 --> 00:48:43,193
Final Five can be encountered by asylum.
:
00:48:43,543 --> 00:48:43,833
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:48:45,053 --> 00:48:45,273
As
:
00:48:45,413 --> 00:48:47,063
Laura: Deanna's whole thing.
:
00:48:47,723 --> 00:48:48,623
Set that up.
:
00:48:48,713 --> 00:48:49,073
Right.
:
00:48:50,243 --> 00:48:50,603
So.
:
00:48:51,343 --> 00:48:56,893
Maybe he's talked her into this
'cause he needs her to see the
:
00:48:56,893 --> 00:48:59,233
final five and regenerate somewhere.
:
00:49:00,943 --> 00:49:01,213
I don't
:
00:49:01,213 --> 00:49:01,603
know.
:
00:49:01,753 --> 00:49:05,833
Xhafer: like in the
Raider two, yeah, maybe.
:
00:49:06,417 --> 00:49:06,707
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:49:06,732 --> 00:49:13,992
Xhafer: So the final five, I am prepared
to offer you one predetermined hint.
:
00:49:15,852 --> 00:49:16,452
I have a hint.
:
00:49:17,022 --> 00:49:21,052
About the Final Five, and it's
not really so much of a hint so
:
00:49:21,052 --> 00:49:22,762
much as a little bit of guidance.
:
00:49:23,662 --> 00:49:28,342
Um, maybe, maybe I would even go as far
as to say it's maybe a little reassurance,
:
00:49:29,782 --> 00:49:31,582
but I'm gonna give you a chance
to turn it down right now.
:
00:49:31,642 --> 00:49:37,582
But it is not anything that will help with
the identity of any of the Final Five.
:
00:49:38,117 --> 00:49:40,312
Laura: Yeah, I don't wanna, I
don't want any help with the
:
00:49:40,792 --> 00:49:43,042
Xhafer: It, there's no help with
the identity from this thing.
:
00:49:44,032 --> 00:49:51,752
It is just a statement that is true
that might reassure you on something.
:
00:49:53,222 --> 00:49:57,512
And I'm gonna give you a chance to opt out
real quick, but there's no, I promise that
:
00:49:57,512 --> 00:49:59,492
this will not help you identify anything.
:
00:49:59,962 --> 00:50:00,887
Laura: And there's no direct
:
00:50:00,887 --> 00:50:01,667
spoiler in it.
:
00:50:01,802 --> 00:50:02,312
Xhafer: spoiler.
:
00:50:03,167 --> 00:50:05,228
Laura: Hmm hmm.
:
00:50:05,423 --> 00:50:07,343
Xhafer: it's, it's pretty harmless.
:
00:50:07,373 --> 00:50:10,343
It's, it's literally the least
spoilery thing I could tell you.
:
00:50:11,148 --> 00:50:11,598
Laura: Okay.
:
00:50:11,808 --> 00:50:13,883
I, I will accept your statement.
:
00:50:14,358 --> 00:50:19,458
Xhafer: I want you to guess the final
five, and I will reassure that among the
:
00:50:19,458 --> 00:50:22,368
Final Five, there's no new characters.
:
00:50:24,138 --> 00:50:26,538
Like, like there's no like, surprise.
:
00:50:26,538 --> 00:50:30,048
There's a new face that
you've never seen before.
:
00:50:30,708 --> 00:50:33,288
Like that's not what's gonna happen.
:
00:50:33,918 --> 00:50:38,688
every character in the Final Five is
an established character in the show.
:
00:50:39,423 --> 00:50:42,843
Laura: Okay, because I did say to
Erin, you know, thinking about how
:
00:50:42,843 --> 00:50:49,935
many episodes we have left in the
season, I was like the last point that
:
00:50:49,935 --> 00:50:57,225
I could see that you could introduce
a new s who might be one of the final
:
00:50:57,225 --> 00:51:03,375
five or new character thing, you know,
would be perhaps in the next episode.
:
00:51:03,375 --> 00:51:08,355
I, I saw briefly in the description that
we're gonna be moving into Baltar's trial,
:
00:51:09,135 --> 00:51:11,025
and so I was like the defense lawyer.
:
00:51:12,165 --> 00:51:13,665
Maybe The defense lawyer.
:
00:51:14,235 --> 00:51:15,645
Xhafer: Be, Be, one to sneak in.
:
00:51:16,605 --> 00:51:17,115
Laura: yeah.
:
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:19,500
And that could be not,
:
00:51:20,130 --> 00:51:22,530
Xhafer: I mean, do you know who
the defense lawyers played by?
:
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:24,180
Laura: I don't.
:
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:24,960
Xhafer: Oh.
:
00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:26,130
Oh, you're in for a treat.
:
00:51:27,195 --> 00:51:27,615
Laura: Oh boy.
:
00:51:27,615 --> 00:51:28,335
I am gonna recognize
:
00:51:28,335 --> 00:51:28,455
them.
:
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:29,160
Xhafer: a hundred percent.
:
00:51:29,541 --> 00:51:29,901
Laura: Cool.
:
00:51:30,642 --> 00:51:31,242
Yeah.
:
00:51:31,302 --> 00:51:34,452
That I was like, that to me seems
like the last point you could sneak
:
00:51:34,452 --> 00:51:36,642
in somebody that we don't already have
:
00:51:36,732 --> 00:51:37,092
and
:
00:51:37,167 --> 00:51:38,517
Xhafer: was on Babylon five.
:
00:51:40,392 --> 00:51:41,322
Laura: exciting.
:
00:51:42,447 --> 00:51:42,987
Xhafer: Was he?
:
00:51:43,047 --> 00:51:43,677
I don't remember.
:
00:51:43,677 --> 00:51:44,577
I don't think he was.
:
00:51:44,577 --> 00:51:45,837
I think he's too young for that,
:
00:51:46,692 --> 00:51:47,262
Laura: Hmm.
:
00:51:47,547 --> 00:51:47,667
I
:
00:51:48,023 --> 00:51:48,383
Xhafer: maybe I'm
:
00:51:48,488 --> 00:51:49,478
Laura: those crossovers.
:
00:51:50,214 --> 00:51:50,754
Okay.
:
00:51:50,814 --> 00:51:53,754
So I don't have to think about the lawyer.
:
00:51:54,594 --> 00:51:55,374
Lawyer's probably.
:
00:51:55,884 --> 00:51:56,604
Lawyer is fine.
:
00:51:57,054 --> 00:51:57,344
Xhafer: Yeah,
:
00:51:58,859 --> 00:51:59,149
Laura: Okay.
:
00:51:59,934 --> 00:52:03,311
Then who do I peg as the final five?
:
00:52:04,626 --> 00:52:06,606
Well, we know one slot
goes to Anders, right?
:
00:52:07,251 --> 00:52:08,066
Xhafer: if that's what you wanna do.
:
00:52:08,597 --> 00:52:08,837
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:52:09,197 --> 00:52:10,457
One slot goes to Anders.
:
00:52:11,261 --> 00:52:15,071
I feel like he's the s Jimbo.
:
00:52:16,060 --> 00:52:16,330
Xhafer: I'm gonna
:
00:52:16,330 --> 00:52:17,230
write these down.
:
00:52:18,428 --> 00:52:19,658
Laura: I don't like Callie.
:
00:52:19,658 --> 00:52:20,378
We know that
:
00:52:21,168 --> 00:52:21,458
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,470
Laura: it was like, if I pick Callie,
:
00:52:26,038 --> 00:52:31,018
I, I just really like the idea that
Tyrell almost got bamboozled by one
:
00:52:31,018 --> 00:52:32,698
and then did get bamboozled by another.
:
00:52:34,363 --> 00:52:39,118
Xhafer: I mean, it would, if they're
both silenced, then I think technically
:
00:52:39,118 --> 00:52:40,498
they're not allowed to have baby.
:
00:52:41,218 --> 00:52:43,378
That's, that's how that works, right?
:
00:52:44,728 --> 00:52:45,358
So,
:
00:52:45,418 --> 00:52:45,908
Laura: no, no, no.
:
00:52:46,603 --> 00:52:48,193
If Cali and Tyrell are both
:
00:52:48,193 --> 00:52:48,703
silents.
:
00:52:48,748 --> 00:52:49,078
Xhafer: okay.
:
00:52:49,288 --> 00:52:49,648
Sorry.
:
00:52:49,648 --> 00:52:49,978
I mis
:
00:52:49,993 --> 00:52:50,233
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:52:50,238 --> 00:52:50,458
No, no.
:
00:52:50,458 --> 00:52:50,683
no.
:
00:52:51,853 --> 00:52:52,093
no.
:
00:52:52,093 --> 00:52:56,413
I like the idea that, that Cali
is a silent, and Tyrell almost got
:
00:52:56,413 --> 00:52:59,143
bamboozled by Boomer, but did get
:
00:52:59,143 --> 00:53:00,283
bamboozled by Cali.
:
00:53:00,328 --> 00:53:00,838
Xhafer: I got you now.
:
00:53:01,708 --> 00:53:01,978
Okay.
:
00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:05,173
Laura: No, I I really, I'm
sticking with that too.
:
00:53:05,203 --> 00:53:08,233
'cause that, that would
be really funny for me.
:
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,610
Uh, GATA.
:
00:53:12,075 --> 00:53:12,405
Xhafer: Alright.
:
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:13,740
Laura: Gata.
:
00:53:14,010 --> 00:53:14,970
Xhafer: You think Gada is the silent?
:
00:53:15,630 --> 00:53:15,870
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:53:17,081 --> 00:53:18,461
Something about that guy.
:
00:53:18,941 --> 00:53:19,211
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:53:20,021 --> 00:53:20,951
Laura: He turned on me.
:
00:53:21,221 --> 00:53:23,649
I just, something about it.
:
00:53:24,099 --> 00:53:24,399
Xhafer: Okay.
:
00:53:25,629 --> 00:53:26,079
Two more
:
00:53:27,324 --> 00:53:29,724
Laura: We had that discussion
about Rosalyn's cancer
:
00:53:30,144 --> 00:53:30,924
Xhafer: Yes.
:
00:53:31,944 --> 00:53:35,754
Laura: and I still, I still kinda like
the idea of her being secret 13th silent.
:
00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:41,293
And that, you know, something
about the blurred had like
:
00:53:41,293 --> 00:53:42,823
nanobots in it that turned her si
:
00:53:43,063 --> 00:53:47,563
on, but I know that's not
exactly how it works, but maybe
:
00:53:47,563 --> 00:53:48,883
it programmed her or something.
:
00:53:48,883 --> 00:53:50,773
She became a, an operative.
:
00:53:51,043 --> 00:53:55,512
Um, I, I feel like Ty
definitely can't be one.
:
00:53:56,262 --> 00:53:56,592
Xhafer: Okay.
:
00:53:57,072 --> 00:53:57,887
Cross 'em off the list.
:
00:53:59,412 --> 00:54:00,582
Laura: He's just too human.
:
00:54:00,582 --> 00:54:01,062
Dammit.
:
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:08,579
And as we've discussed,
Hilo, pretty patently human.
:
00:54:08,804 --> 00:54:09,224
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:13,300
Laura: I maintain my position
that if Gais Baltar is asylum,
:
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:14,830
I'll throw something at the tv,
:
00:54:15,185 --> 00:54:15,345
Xhafer: fair.
:
00:54:16,330 --> 00:54:19,570
Laura: especially since we've
had that seemingly definitive
:
00:54:19,570 --> 00:54:21,130
moment where he was not a silent.
:
00:54:22,357 --> 00:54:23,407
Hmm.
:
00:54:23,707 --> 00:54:25,747
How many open slots do I have?
:
00:54:25,932 --> 00:54:26,292
Xhafer: got two.
:
00:54:26,312 --> 00:54:32,107
You've named Anders, Callie, and Gata,
and you've eliminated a handful of
:
00:54:32,107 --> 00:54:33,667
characters that I did not bother to list.
:
00:54:35,107 --> 00:54:37,267
Laura: I just don't think Doc
Coddle could be one either.
:
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I sure do pick on Dee
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and I'm still wondering actively
who put that note in Adama's room
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Xhafer: It's a good question.
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Laura: Do we ever get an answer to that?
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Is that too spoilery to say?
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Xhafer: If we do, it's in the plan
movie and I've forgotten about it.
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00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,320
Laura: Okay.
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00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,015
Xhafer: Like I, I don't think we flash
back to that point in the main series.
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I feel like I
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would remember that and I think
I was drunk when I watched the
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plan and I haven't gone back.
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Laura: One of the musings I did at
Aaron the other night, we were like
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about to fall asleep and I was like,
what if the final five have wiped
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themselves from everyone else's memory?
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00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:19,820
'cause they're actively
trying to help the humans.
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00:55:20,135 --> 00:55:21,155
Xhafer: That would make sense.
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00:55:21,290 --> 00:55:22,580
Laura: Like, because they
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are good, quote unquote.
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Xhafer: Good.
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00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:27,740
Laura: Yeah.
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00:55:28,490 --> 00:55:29,630
They're the good ones.
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00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,358
And or maybe some of them are the
good ones and that's why they did it.
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00:55:34,358 --> 00:55:37,178
And the others were just like, no,
I'm gonna fucking do my own thing.
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00:55:37,403 --> 00:55:37,733
Xhafer: Yeah.
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00:55:38,558 --> 00:55:41,888
Laura: Um, I don't want to be any
part of this like replication.
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00:55:42,263 --> 00:55:46,463
Bullshit that you guys have
with these ships and your crazy
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00:55:47,273 --> 00:55:49,373
fertility experiments and whatnot.
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00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,185
and and that's the case.
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00:55:53,865 --> 00:55:57,490
Well, and do all the Final
five know actively that they
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00:55:57,490 --> 00:56:00,130
are silos is another question.
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00:56:01,018 --> 00:56:07,258
Could they have wiped themselves from
the other silos and then wiped themselves
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00:56:08,068 --> 00:56:11,908
Xhafer: Well, if you can wipe Cylance,
then you'd wipe Cylance, right?
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00:56:12,148 --> 00:56:14,788
Like that, that, that logic follows.
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00:56:14,788 --> 00:56:19,408
We know that they've wiped themselves
from the other models or were
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00:56:19,408 --> 00:56:23,248
wiped from the other models, would
be a more ambiguous statement.
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00:56:23,908 --> 00:56:24,238
Laura: Yeah.
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00:56:25,228 --> 00:56:25,798
Xhafer: so
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00:56:26,488 --> 00:56:27,808
Laura: So then maybe, did we.
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00:56:28,783 --> 00:56:32,743
Wipe our own selves so that we don't know
we're silents and we're just doing our
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00:56:32,878 --> 00:56:33,688
Xhafer: just doing the thing.
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00:56:34,018 --> 00:56:34,318
Yeah.
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00:56:34,393 --> 00:56:35,383
Laura: just doing our thing.
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00:56:36,425 --> 00:56:42,125
That could argue that perhaps
Adama left his own note
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00:56:43,135 --> 00:56:43,355
Xhafer: Ooh,
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00:56:44,105 --> 00:56:44,765
Laura: that
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00:56:45,105 --> 00:56:46,130
Xhafer: I like this.
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00:56:46,310 --> 00:56:47,105
I like this train
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00:56:47,105 --> 00:56:54,155
Laura: he, maybe he did wipe
himself from the others and
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00:56:54,155 --> 00:56:55,895
was like, no, I see good here.
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00:56:55,895 --> 00:56:57,005
I see something.
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00:56:57,635 --> 00:57:03,245
I'm gonna try to help in some way, but
I'm gonna have to wipe myself to do it
:
00:57:03,275 --> 00:57:12,395
'cause I can't know, but I'm gonna leave
myself this note, this one note about it.
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00:57:12,395 --> 00:57:13,025
Xhafer: Just to know.
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00:57:14,286 --> 00:57:16,536
Laura: And so then he finds it and
he's like, who the fuck wrote this?
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00:57:16,536 --> 00:57:17,766
But it's actually like him.
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00:57:20,706 --> 00:57:22,536
So that would, that could make him one.
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00:57:22,661 --> 00:57:22,951
Xhafer: Yeah.
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00:57:24,758 --> 00:57:26,648
Laura: And then maybe Dee, I don't know.
:
00:57:26,738 --> 00:57:31,118
She's like the low self-esteem silent
then, because she should not be with me.
:
00:57:33,488 --> 00:57:36,098
She should go Girl boss on her own.
:
00:57:36,903 --> 00:57:42,998
Xhafer: Okay, so your list is
Anders, Cali Gata, Papa dama, and D
:
00:57:44,528 --> 00:57:45,848
Laura: And then secret thir 13
:
00:57:45,998 --> 00:57:46,508
Xhafer: Bon.
:
00:57:46,508 --> 00:57:49,113
I'll give you the LTO bonus point for
:
00:57:51,444 --> 00:57:51,844
Roslyn.
:
00:57:53,089 --> 00:57:56,419
Laura: I know Ronnie D said he
gave himself the limit of 12.
:
00:57:56,509 --> 00:58:01,369
'cause like you can't have just an
infinite number just whenever we need one.
:
00:58:01,369 --> 00:58:02,089
Here's a silo,
:
00:58:02,089 --> 00:58:04,669
but you can still give yourself a secret.
:
00:58:04,669 --> 00:58:05,569
13th Salon
:
00:58:07,879 --> 00:58:09,469
thirteen's a great number too.
:
00:58:10,124 --> 00:58:10,414
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:58:11,149 --> 00:58:12,529
Laura: We use it sometimes.
:
00:58:12,589 --> 00:58:13,999
It's the 13th colony.
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00:58:14,359 --> 00:58:16,669
Xhafer: I'm not gonna tell you a number,
:
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:18,619
Laura: No, no.
:
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:24,529
Xhafer: but I am prepared to tell you
if you've completely struck out or not.
:
00:58:25,279 --> 00:58:30,829
If, if one or more of these characters
is among the final five, I won't, I
:
00:58:30,859 --> 00:58:34,309
won't, I will not detail more than
that, but I will let you know if
:
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:36,919
at least one of these is correct.
:
00:58:36,919 --> 00:58:38,089
That's the bar I'm setting.
:
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:40,819
Laura: I feel like I have
to have at least one.
:
00:58:41,629 --> 00:58:43,399
Xhafer: I, I mean, you can feel that way.
:
00:58:43,399 --> 00:58:43,759
I don't
:
00:58:43,879 --> 00:58:46,699
Laura: There's not that
many people in this show.
:
00:58:47,104 --> 00:58:50,614
Xhafer: You've eliminated a handful of
them for pretty logical reasons, I feel.
:
00:58:51,574 --> 00:58:54,724
Um, which, and then looking
at the remaining characters,
:
00:58:54,724 --> 00:58:56,314
you gotta pick somebody.
:
00:58:56,914 --> 00:59:00,094
So statistically it's likely
that you'd get at least, I mean
:
00:59:00,094 --> 00:59:06,064
if you're picking five or six in
this case, out of a cast of 20,
:
00:59:06,774 --> 00:59:07,064
Laura: Yeah,
:
00:59:07,144 --> 00:59:09,604
Xhafer: statistically,
you'd get at least one.
:
00:59:10,324 --> 00:59:10,964
Laura: I would think so.
:
00:59:10,964 --> 00:59:11,204
Yeah.
:
00:59:12,004 --> 00:59:15,454
Xhafer: And I'm willing to tell you
that if you want to know definitively,
:
00:59:15,574 --> 00:59:17,194
if you've gotten at least one.
:
00:59:17,884 --> 00:59:19,534
But I'm also willing to not tell you that.
:
00:59:20,554 --> 00:59:22,654
Laura: I feel like I
feel pretty definitive.
:
00:59:22,654 --> 00:59:23,614
I've gotten at least
:
00:59:23,614 --> 00:59:23,944
one.
:
00:59:25,234 --> 00:59:29,284
Xhafer: I mean, you haven't said if you
want me to confirm it or not yet, you can
:
00:59:29,284 --> 00:59:31,204
just, you know, you're pretty confident.
:
00:59:31,204 --> 00:59:32,284
That's probably right Laura.
:
00:59:32,464 --> 00:59:33,274
We'll just deal with that.
:
00:59:33,604 --> 00:59:33,964
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:59:34,384 --> 00:59:34,624
Yeah.
:
00:59:35,134 --> 00:59:36,484
I've gotten at least one.
:
00:59:36,934 --> 00:59:39,784
Xhafer: Yeah, sure.
:
00:59:43,714 --> 00:59:47,344
All right, well maybe
we'll find out next week.
:
00:59:48,484 --> 00:59:48,904
We won't.
:
00:59:49,384 --> 00:59:53,374
Um, we've got season three, episode 18.
:
00:59:54,004 --> 00:59:57,844
The Sun also rises.
:
00:59:58,594 --> 01:00:00,874
Ryan from Yum Yum podcast
will be joining us.
:
01:00:00,874 --> 01:00:02,074
Always a pleasure to have him on.
:
01:00:02,744 --> 01:00:07,964
When Baltar's lawyer faces assassination
attempts, Adama asks Lee to protect him.
:
01:00:08,474 --> 01:00:14,714
After taking the assignment, Lee takes an
interest in a more active courtroom role.
:
01:00:15,178 --> 01:00:15,468
Laura: Yeah,
:
01:00:17,273 --> 01:00:17,543
Xhafer: The
:
01:00:17,663 --> 01:00:19,703
Laura: that's not what our Apple TV said.
:
01:00:22,283 --> 01:00:24,293
Xhafer: I have reworded
the shit outta that one.
:
01:00:25,038 --> 01:00:29,003
Laura: I, I let Aaron like
look at it to tell me if I can
:
01:00:29,003 --> 01:00:30,293
see anything about it or not.
:
01:00:30,293 --> 01:00:33,623
And usually he's like, no, you,
no, no, you can't see this one.
:
01:00:33,623 --> 01:00:34,343
But he was this one.
:
01:00:34,343 --> 01:00:36,683
He was like, yeah, okay.
:
01:00:37,493 --> 01:00:43,881
And it said that he like, takes an
active role in Baltar's defense.
:
01:00:44,496 --> 01:00:44,916
Xhafer: Yeah,
:
01:00:45,501 --> 01:00:46,041
Laura: And I was like,
:
01:00:46,146 --> 01:00:48,696
Xhafer: that, that, is a detail I changed.
:
01:00:51,711 --> 01:00:52,491
Laura: I've already seen it,
:
01:00:52,971 --> 01:00:55,851
but I don't feel like that's too spoily.
:
01:00:56,031 --> 01:00:56,631
I was like,
:
01:00:57,396 --> 01:00:57,846
Xhafer: It's not too
:
01:00:58,041 --> 01:01:04,077
Laura: honestly, as Ryan has pointed out,
Lee often does what the story requires
:
01:01:04,077 --> 01:01:05,487
of him, not necessarily what he would
:
01:01:05,487 --> 01:01:09,387
do, and I feel like that's what the
story would require of him for sure.
:
01:01:09,732 --> 01:01:10,452
Xhafer: A hundred percent.
:
01:01:11,367 --> 01:01:12,747
Laura: Might also be what he, he would do.
:
01:01:12,747 --> 01:01:16,497
I don't know for sure, but it
feels very like this is the story.
:
01:01:17,726 --> 01:01:22,256
Xhafer: All right, well that will
be the story next week, but the
:
01:01:22,256 --> 01:01:26,966
story this week is a story of thank
yous and we've gotta say thank you.
:
01:01:27,956 --> 01:01:30,926
First and foremost, Jeremy Siegel
for our lovely theme music.
:
01:01:30,926 --> 01:01:31,826
Thanks so much, Jeremy.
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01:01:32,486 --> 01:01:33,146
appreciate you.
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01:01:34,181 --> 01:01:34,961
Laura: Absolutely.
:
01:01:34,991 --> 01:01:38,351
Thanks a lot Jeremy, and thanks
again to Angry Duck Time machine on
:
01:01:38,351 --> 01:01:40,181
Instagram for the podcast artwork.
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Xhafer: Aaron.
:
01:01:41,066 --> 01:01:42,686
Thanks so much for editing this podcast.
:
01:01:43,036 --> 01:01:45,706
Uh, Whenever you get around
to it, you might not listen to
:
01:01:45,706 --> 01:01:46,996
this for weeks at this point.
:
01:01:47,446 --> 01:01:50,146
We've, we've built up
such a, a, a pile here.
:
01:01:50,216 --> 01:01:51,116
But appreciate
:
01:01:51,116 --> 01:01:51,716
you every time.
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01:01:52,219 --> 01:01:57,079
Laura: And hey, listener, if you wanna
come in the Discord and you can't
:
01:01:57,079 --> 01:02:00,649
talk with me about the Final Five,
but you can go over to Spoiler Town.
:
01:02:01,429 --> 01:02:02,959
We got a special channel for that.
:
01:02:03,919 --> 01:02:04,399
Xhafer: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
:
01:02:04,429 --> 01:02:05,364
No war is allowed.
:
01:02:06,289 --> 01:02:06,499
Laura: No,
:
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:08,599
Xhafer: That used to that
used to be the channel name.
:
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:10,489
Now it's your fairs
making that face again.
:
01:02:11,149 --> 01:02:14,459
Um, but I think it's
about to be spoiler chat.
:
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:15,269
BBSG.
:
01:02:15,269 --> 01:02:15,779
Spoilers.
:
01:02:16,169 --> 01:02:19,139
I said maybe I think I'm gonna
change it in a minute here.
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01:02:19,859 --> 01:02:20,579
Um,
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01:02:20,729 --> 01:02:21,269
Laura: Good.
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01:02:24,569 --> 01:02:25,349
Xhafer: it's a fun time.
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01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:26,159
Come join the Discord.
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01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:26,759
It's a great crew.
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01:02:27,479 --> 01:02:27,839
Laura: Yeah.
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01:02:28,288 --> 01:02:28,979
Love to have you.
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01:02:29,361 --> 01:02:30,081
Xhafer: we'll see you next week.
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01:02:30,081 --> 01:02:30,441
Internet.
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Laura: Bye.
