Episode 143

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25th Sep 2024

Crusade 11 - All Habsburg Chins

Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers, as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.

Laura and Xhafer recast Crusade for the inevitable reboot. Meanwhile, the Excalibur crew discovers the Drakh Plague has made it off Earth among a colony of rogue cyber-soldiers in Crusade: Episode 5 - Patterns of the Soul.

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Laura:

Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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We're the Babylon 5 watch cast by

a couple of former strangers, now

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friends, who are still getting to know

each other over one of their favorite

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shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.

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I'm

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Xhafer: And I'm Jaffer.

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Laura: and today I'd like to ask

Ja'far a very important question.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: Because we know that the Babylon

5 reboot is imminent any day now.

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Xhafer: Right.

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Totally not just stalled

out in reboot hell.

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Laura: Definitely, probably not.

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And obviously Crusade is going

to be a thing after the Babylon 5

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reboot that is wildly successful.

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So, if you were going to reboot

Crusade, how would you cast it?

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Xhafer: I thought a lot about this because

obviously this is something that we,

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you know, we're not doing off the dome.

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Laura: Definitely not.

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Xhafer: definitely not.

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What kind of podcasters would we

be if we just came up with a bit

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30 seconds before we hit record?

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Laura: Never.

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So unprofessional.

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Xhafer: be so incredibly unprofessional,

I would never stoop to that level.

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I know you're a pro, so we're,

we're not doing that for sure.

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But if I did have to come up with some

recasting, um, for Gideon, I want someone.

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That has a commanding presence, you know,

I want someone that can tell someone

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to go fuck themselves without using

those words many ways over, but also I

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want someone who can do a little bit of

mystery and I want someone who can just

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kind of pull a solution out of their ass.

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Right.

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And when I think about those

qualities in particular, that

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last one, there's only one name.

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There's a pro in that game and

that's Richard Dean Anderson.

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Laura: Excellent.

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Yeah, I like that poll.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Richard Dean Anderson.

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Xhafer: Who are you thinking for Gideon?

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Laura: Well, there's only one.

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obvious choice for me,

and that is Gary Cole.

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Xhafer: Yeah, that's fair.

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Laura: I mean,

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Xhafer: do it.

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Laura: yeah, look at this man.

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He's still alive.

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Well, he's 67, so he's going to bring

a gravitas to it that he didn't before,

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but some of his, like, experienced

bad boy gets the job done will be a

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little more believable at this age.

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He's still got.

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a great head of hair, if you

see some of his recent pictures.

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So I think that's all we need,

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Xhafer: Yeah, the hair is important.

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Laura: Mm hmm.

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Yeah.

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Well, what would you do for Matheson?

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Okay.

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Xhafer: want someone who is

confident, but not overtly.

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So I want them to have a like

underlying kind of anxiety, right?

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I want them to, I want it to be

a little bit more believable.

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Maybe they don't really feel entirely

sure of their position, but they're there

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and they're going to make the most of it.

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Um, someone who probably a bit

older than our uh, Daniel Day Kim.

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You know, just someone maybe

a little bit more experienced.

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someone who's a bit of a nerd.

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Laura: Very important.

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Xhafer: And I think when I think

nerd who's kind of bumbling,

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but can pull it off and is also

like super built for no reason.

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I'm thinking Michael Shanks.

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Laura: And this is where I have

to Google that person because

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I can't make a joke about them.

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Okay.

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You got to tell me who he was on Stargate.

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Xhafer: Oh God fucking, what's his name?

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I don't know, I only watched 10

episodes of that fucking show.

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That's not true, I watched like 15.

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Um,

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Laura: Daniel Jackson.

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He was Daniel Jackson.

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Xhafer: DJ, that's right.

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Laura: Can you, can you elaborate

a little more on why his DJ

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ness makes him great for the

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Xhafer: His DJ makes him great for the

role because it's my weakest casting

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of the four and I'm doing a bit.

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Laura: Well, again, I have only one

person in mind for the role of Matheson.

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And that is the cheekbones of Daniel Day

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Xhafer: Oh yeah, those cheekbones.

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So

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important to that character.

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Laura: if you look at this actor

and we know some of his recent work,

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he's more than capable and I'm, I'm

just feeling like everyone in crusade

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needs a do over almost everyone.

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Xhafer: everyone.

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Laura: Who do you want to do next?

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Xhafer: Um, why don't we do Dr.

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Chambers?

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: So, Dr.

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Chambers.

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Again, I want someone who's believable

that they're going to save the world.

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Right.

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Cause I think.

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If Crusade had been allowed to run

its storyline in full, Chambers

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is the one who's gonna, like,

actually get the cure here, right?

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Like, Gideon and crew are going to

find it and lead the journey, but

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Chambers is the one who's gonna be all

like, No, this is actually the cure.

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No, this is how it works.

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Like, she's the person who's

gonna save the entire human race.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: And so I want someone that I

can believe is going to pull that off.

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So I need someone who has

a aura of intelligence.

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I need someone who has an aura of

confidence again, and I think Amanda

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Tapping would be excellent in this role.

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Laura: Yeah, of course.

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I've given my bit away a little

bit, in that I think everyone

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in Crusade needs a do over.

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Almost everyone in

Crusade needs a do over.

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But I think no one needs that do

over more than Marjean Holden.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Because Girlfriend got

robbed with this script, and this

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whole setup, and I think that she

needs a chance to do it again.

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And with some better material, which

always happens in reboots, right?

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Yeah, okay.

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Xhafer: So I think Ellerson was

the last name we'd thrown around.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Eilerson.

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Mm

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Xhafer: So for Max, I want

someone who can be an asshole.

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but, uh, still can get the job done.

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I need someone who can just kind

of like say things and it sounds

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like they make sense, but there's

no possible way he could know that.

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Laura: hmm.

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Xhafer: And when I think about

someone who feels that role,

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I think Christopher judge.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What a classic.

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So, Max Eilerson is the character that

does not deserve a do over, and I am

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writing him out of the reboot entirely.

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No Eilerson for anybody.

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Xhafer: no, you know,

that's a big improvement.

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Laura: Yeah, now it's a success.

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Xhafer: That's all we needed to do

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is just get

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Laura: Totally agree.

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Well, we've solved Crusade, I think.

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Xhafer: our, uh, Friend of

the pod, Austin uh, is really

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big in the fan edit community.

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Laura: Oh,

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Xhafer: he's that's a big hobby.

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His, I would love to see what he

would do with crusade if he were

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to try and get rid of Ellerson.

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Please don't

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Laura: your mission,

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Xhafer: Austin,

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Laura: your mission should you choose to

accept it, but you really don't have to.

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It's totally fine.

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Xhafer: don't.

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Laura: Yeah.

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into it.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Laura: All right.

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Well, we unfortunately do have an

episode with Max Eilerson in front of

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Xhafer: We do.

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We've got three episodes of crusade left.

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The crusade to finish crusade rolls on.

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We have patterns of the soul.

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Does

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Laura: Hmm.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: that even make

sense for this episode?

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Laura: I was just

wondering the same thing.

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It even like, he likes to have his

like little poetic type titles, right.

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And there usually is a way that

they pretty obviously connect.

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I'm not picking it up here.

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Xhafer: nor am I, maybe I missed

a line somewhere, but are we open

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on, did you catch this, but we

open on like the immediate opening.

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Not, not the conversation, not the

sharing a name drop before that.

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Laura: There was a something,

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Xhafer: There's like seven

seconds of porn groove.

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Laura: Oh

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Xhafer: like really awkward music

choice, even for this show and

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it's terrible music choices.

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Laura: yeah.

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We've had some pretty

notable ones already.

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So yeah.

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Why not just open it up with the porn?

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Maybe they got the soundtrack

mixed up from that one episode

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that did open with literal porn.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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What is this TV show?

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How?

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Laura: What happened, guys?

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Xhafer: How?

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I forgot.

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Like, it's like a fever dream.

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You like, you say a thing that

happened in crusade and it's just all

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like, oh yeah, that, that did happen.

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Fuck.

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I'm already blocking it out of my brain.

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Laura: I'm, I know this

journey has been Mm, tedious

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. But I'm glad we're going on this

journey 'cause I, I am a bit of a

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completionist and so I did always

feel kind of like, well, I didn't

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ever, didn't ever actually watch

crusade and now I can say that I have

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Xhafer: Checked the box.

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famous gauge on which life is judged on.

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Laura: Yeah, this is uh, getting

scratched off the old bucket list, so.

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Xhafer: when Anubis grabs the scales,

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and the feather is placed, he's gonna look

at you and go, but did you finish Crusade?

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And you'll be able to say yes.

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Laura: yes I did, sir.

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Anubis is a sir, I think.

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Xhafer: Probably.

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Anubis.

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So Gideon's getting yelled

at by his boss here.

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He needs to go check if a colony

is infected with the plague

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so they can relocate them.

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We cut over to Max, who's also

getting yelled at by his boss for

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not giving the evil corporate things.

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Laura: Yeah, it's, you,

you're not doing enough evil.

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Like, be, be doing more evil, like,

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Xhafer: Mm hmm.

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Do more evil, Max.

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Fuck.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I surprisingly didn't feel bad about

Eilerson getting his butt chewed.

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That was kind of fun.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: But then he goes to chew on

Gideon's butt some more because he's

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mad now that we're changing course

and he doesn't get to go do evil.

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Xhafer: Mm hmm.

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We find out this colony is 30 people here.

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Laura: Yeah, not much of a colony.

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Xhafer: Yeah, they escaped

during the drug attack.

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Do you would, I don't know how

you call 30 people a colony.

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Laura: Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Xhafer: a rest stop.

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Laura: Yeah, it's like they're, they're

a contingent or something, but they're

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not a colony, and I question strongly

how they got out of earth as the drug,

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because it's the way they made it sound

is it's like, as the plague is being

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distributed, they're like taking off.

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And it's like, there were like a

lot of enemy ships around and there

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was like a big battle, like who

was letting them go through like

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the pre flight check sequence when

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Xhafer: there's a big there's

a big battle, right there.

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We find out they're all military.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: know, the captain dude served on

the battle of the line and everything.

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Right.

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Laura: Oh, that's true.

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So they're not like afraid of it.

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Xhafer: But also.

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Fuckin they talk about how they're all

from a different colony in this episode.

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How they were all living

on this biochem colony.

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What the fuck were they doing

on Earth during the attack?

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They all just happened to be there?

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Laura: there was a big conference

where they were showing off all their

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biochem stuff and you got to have your

subjects there to be poked and prodded.

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Xhafer: Ugh.

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Laura: I don't know.

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Yeah.

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So on the planet

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Xhafer: hmm.

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Laura: One of the human colonists is,

like, hassling some guy about rolling

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the stones and seeing poor tents, and,

you know, this guy's in his, like, hooded

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thing, and he's clearly very unwell

and he says that this guy has brought

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doom to his people and asks him to

leave him alone so he can die to theme.

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Xhafer: Yeah, the Rolling Stones are

bringing about all of their deaths.

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They're going to use the

nanovirus shield here to go down

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just in case they're infected.

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Laura: Glad we have some continuity

on that, that we're using the thing.

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Xhafer: So I wonder because if this was

supposed to be much earlier in the, this

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is much earlier in the original air order,

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Laura: Oh, is it?

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Xhafer: if this is supposed to be.

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A thing that we assume is happening

every time they go to one of these

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planets that has the possibility

of having had the plague on it.

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Laura: Yeah, like these dead worlds,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: virus shielding the whole time.

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Xhafer: and we're just to assume

it because we see it here.

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Laura: Yeah, great question.

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Xhafer: You would need

something like that in the plot.

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I would think

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Laura: Yeah.

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For some reason we're going to

send Gideon down to do this, like,

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Xhafer: Captain goes on away missions.

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This ain't Star Trek.

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Laura: He confronts the colony

leader who doesn't believe

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that they could be infected.

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Xhafer: this is Robert Black played by

Brian Thompson Who's a real that guy?

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Tell me

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Xhafer: I clocked him immediately as

Shao Kahn in Mortal Kombat Annihilation,

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one of the worst movies ever made.

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Laura: Beautiful.

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He does have a look like he

could be in mortal combat.

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Xhafer: he's in all kinds of stuff,

the other thing Beth immediately

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recognized him as Luke from Buffy.

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Laura: Ah, okay.

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Xhafer: So he's, he's got

a laundry list on IMDB.

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He agrees to do a blood sample when

Darina finds out that she has the

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same loaf as the old stones guy.

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He sends her to their village.

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It's a big, big to do for her.

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She thought she was the

last of her peoples.

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Laura: Yes.

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We did find that out in

call to arms, I think.

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Yeah.

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And uh, this guy thinks that she's

some kind of prophet of course, like

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we always think that in this sort

of situation but Gideon tells black

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that he does need to return to earth.

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Tim, I think is the one who's

extremely mad about this,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Yes, this is

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Laura: to go back black tells him,

well, you know, we may have like

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doomed the other people on this planet.

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The like actual tribe that

they call themselves, I think.

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Xhafer: They're words.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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And he says, you know, the

captain probably knows.

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That's what we are anyway.

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Like they've probably told him

everything, which no, they, of

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course they didn't but Tim does not

want to go back and be a lab rat.

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Xhafer: No.

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No, they talk about who and

what they are very obliquely.

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Ooh.

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Laura: spooky.

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Max babbles some Bible stuff at Gideon.

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That's what I wrote here.

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Cause I did not understand what was

happening between Max and Gideon.

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Xhafer: He is claiming

that ignorance is bliss.

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This is basically that

one scene from The Matrix

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Laura: Uh, The Matrix

probably did it better.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: Darina scales a

cliff, which looks super

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Xhafer: Who?

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Okay.

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This drove me mad.

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So she has to like climb this

giant cliff face to get up there.

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Right?

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Laura: always climbing shit, have you

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Xhafer: How did that old guy get down?

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The guy who can't walk?

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How, how do you get down this cliff face?

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If this is the only way up to the village,

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: how do they do anything?

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There's not a lot of space up here.

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Laura: but Doreen is just, she

has to always be climbing shit.

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So we don't forget that she's the

rogue, you know, cause they had

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her climb that one building where

she went across the light bridge.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: to climb the, uh, the home

of the lady of the bong water.

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We're climbing up this cliff right now.

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Yeah it's a little bit overused, perhaps.

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Uh, Gideon calls home and gets

yelled at some more for giving

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the colonists time to pack.

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Xhafer: he starts digging

in some records after this

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Laura: Yeah, he's suspicious.

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Xhafer: top secret, unauthorized,

Hey, we know you're not the dude.

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You have to say the second password now.

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Kind of a thing.

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What kind of system is that?

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Laura: I was gonna say, this feels

like a password security rant coming

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Xhafer: Can you imagine if your

MFA failed and it was just all

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like another password, please.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Can I tell you something adorable?

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I love academics.

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They're the most hilarious people

sometimes, often not on purpose.

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And one of my professors there's this uh,

system for, how, how should I describe it?

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Uh, It's from the Wharton school at

University of Pennsylvania that they

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put up a whole bunch of data stuff

and you sign into it and you get

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data sets to run analysis and stuff.

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It's all like Compustat

and Audit Analytics.

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They're like public kind of things

repositories of public information.

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And they recently, started that

multi factor authentication.

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And twice now I have watched this

professor, like do the sign in, in class.

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And then he forgets that it's

going to call him and he's

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like, who is this calling me,

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like genuinely, like.

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I can't believe someone's calling

me in class right now and we're

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like, it's the, it's the MFA

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professor.

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Xhafer: computer.

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The computer's the one calling you.

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The call's coming from

inside the classroom.

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Laura: It's adorable.

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I love it.

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Anyway, moving on uh,

Yeah, so that's weird

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that we've got the super secret passwords.

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Um,

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Xhafer: Yeah, it's so fuckin weird.

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We find out the colonists

are infected very early here.

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Laura: yeah,

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Xhafer: it is not a mystery.

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And so Gideon also starts digging

through the ship's logs, see where

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they've been, who they've talked

to, where they stopped Doreena gets

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the skinny from her lost tribe.

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Once again, their words.

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Laura: Basically they were

slaves of another race, I think.

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I think they said that their, their

people were being taken by others and

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their ship was destroyed in orbit.

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So we get to see the story.

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I don't think they know this, but

we see that the shadows destroyed

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their ship while it was in orbit.

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And, you know, so they, I assume,

got on life pods or whatever

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and made a home here.

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Xhafer: Yep.

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Laura: I wish we knew who the

other race was that enslaved them.

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Xhafer: Just give me a little bit more.

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Laura: Because you think like,

oh, could it have been the Drak?

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But why would the

Shadows destroy the ship?

418

:

Maybe, maybe it was a

Vorlon associated race.

419

:

But would the Vorlons,

they do slave things?

420

:

I don't know.

421

:

Xhafer: Probably.

422

:

They're shitbags.

423

:

Laura: They're all bad, right?

424

:

Xhafer: They're all terrible.

425

:

Who the fuck knows?

426

:

It doesn't

427

:

Laura: Yeah, or maybe the shadows

are just doing their like evolution

428

:

through chaos thing and so

they're like shooting their own

429

:

Allies

430

:

Xhafer: they were pissed that they

were taken in the first place, and

431

:

they came around to blow them up after

they had destroyed the homeworld.

432

:

Laura: Yeah

433

:

Xhafer: no survivors.

434

:

Some of that shit.

435

:

I don't know.

436

:

Chambers confirms Gideon's

concern that the colonists

437

:

were infected, After escaping?

438

:

Laura: Yeah, she finds like a CD ROM.

439

:

Oh, no, wait, that's actually food in

the trash and colonists had left earth

440

:

before the plague but they were given

it through the food that they bought.

441

:

Xhafer: Mm hmm.

442

:

Just bizarre.

443

:

Um, like, it doesn't make sense, but I

mean, it does in the terms of the plot,

444

:

but like, why you would Even risk this,

445

:

Laura: Mm hmm.

446

:

Xhafer: just seems

447

:

so foolhardy.

448

:

Laura: Yeah, especially like the

whole point of quarantining earth

449

:

is to keep this shit in one place

and we don't infect anything else

450

:

and the risk of like sending

it to get at someone else as a.

451

:

Also a weapon.

452

:

I don't know.

453

:

It's just mad, madness.

454

:

Why would you do this thing?

455

:

Cause that so easily

gets out of your hands.

456

:

Like, somebody's like, ooh, food

crate, steals a food crate, you know?

457

:

And then,

458

:

it's all

459

:

Xhafer: And, and then Minbar is

infected now because linear got

460

:

into a food supply and gave it to

a homeless person or some shit.

461

:

Like it's just, it's just so fucking dumb.

462

:

It's so dumb.

463

:

Laura: Yeah.

464

:

Doreena has called Dr.

465

:

Chambers to come check out her people.

466

:

She has not told anybody.

467

:

Xhafer: Mm hmm.

468

:

Laura: that these are her people and that

she's found other sentient life forms.

469

:

She just said she needs her to

check out some native life, and

470

:

she wants to get them tested to

see if they have the virus as well.

471

:

Xhafer: Yeah, which, of course they do.

472

:

Laura: Of course they do.

473

:

Xhafer: Uh, They already know.

474

:

They don't need to be tested.

475

:

The stones have already told them.

476

:

Laura: So on her way back, Dr.

477

:

Chambers gets jumped by Tim.

478

:

He's not gonna go back.

479

:

He starts to give up the ghost

480

:

on it.

481

:

No, that's not what,

that's not the phrase.

482

:

Xhafer: It is a phrase.

483

:

Give up the ghost?

484

:

That's a phrase.

485

:

I I don't think

486

:

Laura: That's when you die, though.

487

:

Xhafer: It's a I mean, it's

kind of a I think it's a like a

488

:

resignation of the inevitable.

489

:

Laura: Okay.

490

:

We'll go with that.

491

:

Xhafer: Uh,

492

:

Laura: Whatever it is, he's given it up.

493

:

Xhafer: given it up.

494

:

Laura: he's informs us that

they're all cybernetic beings,

495

:

Xhafer: Mm-Hmm.

496

:

Laura: And pretty mad about it.

497

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

498

:

They uh, kidnap, he kidnaps Dr.

499

:

Chambers here.

500

:

Dorino like catches up, gets

like instantly thrown away,

501

:

and then they just keep going.

502

:

It's like.

503

:

Laura: she's good, but she's not beat

the cyber being good, unfortunately.

504

:

Xhafer: This is so pointless.

505

:

In, in wrestling parlance,

we'd call this bad booking.

506

:

All this does is make the character we

care about look weak without any chance

507

:

for her to like come back from it.

508

:

Laura: Yeah.

509

:

Mm hmm.

510

:

Xhafer: So,

511

:

Laura: I wish she could

have done something clever.

512

:

Xhafer: right.

513

:

I wish she could have done anything

besides be sad this episode.

514

:

I mean, she's got plenty of stuff

to be sad about but it feels like.

515

:

You might be madder at the humans who

have now infected the last survivors

516

:

of your people after finding out that

you were not alone in the galaxy.

517

:

You might want to take that out on them.

518

:

You might not be chill

and passive about it.

519

:

Laura: She's had a lot of agency taken

away from her in this episode, which

520

:

I think is kind of a beef I have with,

like, 90s male sci fi writers when

521

:

they do a strong female character.

522

:

With quotes around it.

523

:

Xhafer: Strong on those

air quotes on that strong.

524

:

Laura: Yeah.

525

:

They, they want to make her into a

badass, but then they just yank like

526

:

all of her agency away at some point

527

:

because it's convenient for their story.

528

:

Very

529

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

530

:

If Gideon can't save the day,

let it later in this episode.

531

:

Then what's the point of any of it?

532

:

The

533

:

Laura: Uh, So Robert Black tells us

he was at the Battle of the Line,

534

:

Xhafer: yeah.

535

:

Laura: And then got ducked in bioweapons.

536

:

Xhafer: He was a big old trying

to be a big old hero as a young

537

:

kid in the military and just.

538

:

Ends up not having a great time.

539

:

Laura: Yeah.

540

:

I feel like that's a tale as old as time.

541

:

It's a great way to make a name for

yourself until things actually happen.

542

:

Mm

543

:

Xhafer: Yep.

544

:

While this conversation is

going on Tim takes off on their

545

:

shuttle with a handful of people.

546

:

I guess 30 people fit on this shuttle.

547

:

Laura: That's a big shuttle.

548

:

Xhafer: It's just the

normal shuttle though.

549

:

Like if you look at it, it's just the

same old shuttle we see all the time.

550

:

Laura: I bet it has a basketball court.

551

:

Xhafer: Well, it does have artificial

gravity and the same bridge as

552

:

an earth force destroyer, despite

it just being the normal shuttle.

553

:

So

554

:

probably.

555

:

Laura: shuttle.

556

:

Yeah.

557

:

Xhafer: normal shuttle.

558

:

It's, it is this level of stuff

that drives me mad because Babylon

559

:

5 was giving so much attention to

detail on this shit and Crusade just

560

:

can't be bothered to give a fuck.

561

:

That's actually my problem

with the whole show.

562

:

It just can't be bothered.

563

:

Laura: Yeah.

564

:

So Darina calls Gideon

and lets him know that Dr.

565

:

Chambers is a hostage on that shuttle.

566

:

So

567

:

maybe don't just like shoot it down.

568

:

Xhafer: So he shoots it down.

569

:

Laura: Yeah, he shoots it down.

570

:

And then Black and Darina

talk about their situation.

571

:

He lost the love of his life to these

implants and they just want to be free.

572

:

but then they're interrupted

by the explosion in the sky.

573

:

Xhafer: Yeah, Gideon hails the

general, they FaceTime for a minute

574

:

and he shows them the destruction

of the ship, but it's all a ruse,

575

:

even, even though technically it's not a

fake, he did blow up that shuttle, which

576

:

is, I guess, important, but, whatever.

577

:

It's not, he's, he, he gets them.

578

:

Laura: Yeah.

579

:

The tape is epic.

580

:

Uh, So, he does tell the general

after he's like, yeah, I blew

581

:

their asses out of the sky.

582

:

Um, but hey, this is weird.

583

:

They definitely weren't

infected when they left earth.

584

:

They got infected on the

way to this planet somehow.

585

:

Xhafer: happenstance.

586

:

Laura: Yeah.

587

:

Maybe somebody should look into that.

588

:

What do you think general?

589

:

Xhafer: Yeah, we will send our

best people on it right away.

590

:

You should definitely not do that.

591

:

Also, go on a different mission now, bye.

592

:

Laura: Yeah, no, he doesn't

even say we'll put people on it.

593

:

He's like, nah, there's no investigation

necessary needed into that.

594

:

Like, that's what you

should have said, right?

595

:

Oh yes.

596

:

We will get a team on that, but

you guys have other shit to do.

597

:

Go do that other shit.

598

:

But.

599

:

Instead, he says the

more suspicious thing.

600

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

601

:

I'm going to be lazy with my conspiracy.

602

:

Ah, yes.

603

:

Heh.

604

:

Laura: Yeah.

605

:

So Gideon tells the colonists that

he's going to leave a satellite

606

:

at this planet to warn others away

since the plague has jumped species.

607

:

That satellite will also make sure

nobody leaves, so don't try to do that.

608

:

Xhafer: it'd be bad.

609

:

Laura: And then on the way back,

he and Doreena kind of have a

610

:

conversation about truth, I guess.

611

:

she wants to know how uh, he

found out about the cybernetics.

612

:

Like, where'd you get that information?

613

:

That's very interesting.

614

:

Xhafer: gotta do a little

tradesy here to build the trust.

615

:

Laura: Yeah.

616

:

Xhafer: And he kind of tells her,

I mean, I guess he tells her in

617

:

a way that would matter for her.

618

:

Cause it's not like he's gonna

name drop the general who got

619

:

too drunk and fucked up at cards.

620

:

Laura: I'm really curious

about this though.

621

:

Xhafer: I wish we knew

our generals better.

622

:

I feel like in a, like, In a next gen

where we know all of the Admiral's names.

623

:

This could be really fun to know

that like Nechayev got super

624

:

drunk playing cards one time.

625

:

Laura: To give up her

626

:

Xhafer: yeah, but for us here,

it's so fucking pointless.

627

:

Laura: Yeah.

628

:

He won the, the security codes in a poker

629

:

game.

630

:

maybe we just really wanted to

establish the poker so that the

631

:

apocalypse box made more sense.

632

:

I love saying that.

633

:

I love bringing up the box anytime.

634

:

But yeah, I wonder if that was going

to be a point later, like maybe we were

635

:

going to meet that general someday.

636

:

Xhafer: that would make sense.

637

:

I hope so.

638

:

Laura: He's got to still be

639

:

alive,

640

:

Xhafer: maybe in our

script reading, we'll find

641

:

out.

642

:

Laura: that'll come up.

643

:

you know, he's got to still be alive

or those codes wouldn't be active.

644

:

Right.

645

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

646

:

Laura: You hope,

647

:

Xhafer: Dr.

648

:

Chambers gives Mac shit for

being a corporate shill.

649

:

Laura: you know, for as much as

we brought it up at the beginning,

650

:

And the end of this episode,

651

:

there was really nothing to do with Max

being a corporate shill in this episode.

652

:

Like, everybody's just giving

him a hard time, kind of apropos

653

:

of nothing, which is weird.

654

:

Xhafer: Mm hmm.

655

:

Laura: Yeah, so he confronts

her about Darina's people.

656

:

He's kind of figured that out.

657

:

I don't know if he was looking at her

notes or just figured out something

658

:

about the mission records, or I

659

:

don't remember.

660

:

Very forgettable, whatever it was.

661

:

And she refuses to like take the bait.

662

:

She's not gonna.

663

:

give this information up, even

though she did tell Gideon, right?

664

:

Yeah, she did.

665

:

That's how we got here.

666

:

And Darina goes to visit Chambers

to apologize, I think, for her anger

667

:

on the planet's surface, or I don't

know why she's apologizing exactly.

668

:

Xhafer: I don't know.

669

:

So much of this doesn't make sense.

670

:

Laura: Uh, but Chambers forgives her

and does let her know that because

671

:

her people had this virus before.

672

:

The virus is more effective on them.

673

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

674

:

Laura: And so it's only going

to take one year for them.

675

:

And after that, they will all perish.

676

:

Xhafer: Big sads.

677

:

Laura: Big sads, especially because

like, you know, we know Earth has.

678

:

Four years, five years, really.

679

:

But you know, Gideon's going

to have to come home after four

680

:

because of a weird promise he made.

681

:

So it's like, what happens

to the show after one year?

682

:

If we don't, I don't know.

683

:

Xhafer: Yeah, if they don't cure the

plague in a year and we just know that

684

:

Jarena's people are dead somewhere.

685

:

Laura: yeah.

686

:

I wonder if this was the show

saying, don't worry, it's not going

687

:

to be four seasons of plague stuff.

688

:

Like we're just going to get through this

and then we'll figure out something else.

689

:

Okay guys,

690

:

like we're not going to

let all these people die.

691

:

Xhafer: All twelve of them.

692

:

That have been there for generations.

693

:

It seems like

694

:

Laura: I think they said that, yeah.

695

:

Xhafer: can't, like, maybe a

couple generations, but like,

696

:

if you have not enough people,

697

:

Laura: Mm hmm.

698

:

You get a genetic problem eventually,

699

:

Xhafer: right, pretty quickly, yeah,

700

:

Laura: Yeah.

701

:

Xhafer: so,

702

:

Laura: Oh.

703

:

Xhafer: maybe the loaf

is all Habsburg chins,

704

:

Laura: Oh, that's kind of sad.

705

:

I hope they don't have

any, like, hemophilia or

706

:

Xhafer: yeah, I don't, I want the

best for these imaginary people.

707

:

Laura: Me too.

708

:

Especially since they

got a pretty raw deal.

709

:

Xhafer: They sure did.

710

:

Laura: They had to be in Crusade.

711

:

Um, so

712

:

Xhafer: That's definitely the

worst thing that happened to them.

713

:

Well, well, that's an episode.

714

:

We did it.

715

:

We got through another one.

716

:

Laura: Oh, I forgot to give Mr.

717

:

Eilerson his credit, though.

718

:

At the very end, he calls home to IPX.

719

:

And he records his report,

and he makes his tattletale

720

:

line to out Darina's people.

721

:

But that he Thinks about it and

deletes it to credits, And I don't

722

:

think we have any ridiculous music

for me to point out this time,

723

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

724

:

Laura: this time.

725

:

Xhafer: All right.

726

:

Well, we agreed to do this rating

system like two years ago, so we

727

:

should probably do the rating system

728

:

Laura: Hmm.

729

:

Xhafer: of one to four main guns firing.

730

:

Actually, I'm going to rephrase that

with a maximum of four main guns firing,

731

:

Laura: Yeah.

732

:

I don't think the bacon

guns are firing Jaffer.

733

:

I think they, that the uh,

gunner has fallen asleep.

734

:

Xhafer: right?

735

:

Laura: I think he's out cold.

736

:

Xhafer: this the worst episode?

737

:

I don't think we've given

anything a zero before.

738

:

I don't think either of us have ever

given anything a zero and I think we're

739

:

about to Double O this thing, aren't we?

740

:

Laura: the, the only time we have

diverted from, you know, The scale

741

:

like completely with not numerical

stuff is either like this is the best

742

:

episode or the fuck this episode, right?

743

:

Xhafer: Is this a, is this

an inverse fuck this episode?

744

:

Because the fuck this episode

is a fuck this episode.

745

:

Not because it's bad or terrible, but

because, well, at least for me, it makes

746

:

me feel things that I don't want to

feel this episode makes me feel nothing.

747

:

Laura: Yeah.

748

:

Yeah.

749

:

What would that be?

750

:

Xhafer: This is like the

clinical depression of episodes.

751

:

Laura: This is like, to me, for

me, it's like, like white bread and

752

:

I don't mean it in like the, the

insult that colloquial in the world

753

:

right now is, you know, just like

754

:

Xhafer: Oh no, this is a mayonnaise

sandwich on Wonder Bread.

755

:

This is bland as shit.

756

:

Laura: Yeah.

757

:

It's just, there's no taste to it.

758

:

It's kind of, you know how white

bread, like when you squish it,

759

:

it gets icky gross, like doughy.

760

:

Like,

761

:

Xhafer: I don't want to sound like

a pretentious asshole, but I don't

762

:

eat a lot of American bread almost.

763

:

Laura: seen it.

764

:

You've

765

:

Xhafer: I know what you're talking about.

766

:

I, I, after, after I had the real stuff,

767

:

I just can't eat our shitty

American bread anymore.

768

:

It's

769

:

Laura: I've never gone, yeah.

770

:

Xhafer: You have to, you have to just,

771

:

Laura: No, no, no, I mean,

772

:

I've, I've never gone back.

773

:

Xhafer: Oh yeah.

774

:

Once you start baking your own bread

775

:

Laura: Yeah.

776

:

Xhafer: or have access to a bakery

that makes real shit, it just,

777

:

it's just such a difference.

778

:

So it doesn't last four weeks.

779

:

Oh no.

780

:

Laura: Yeah.

781

:

If it, if it takes you four

weeks to eat it, like, that's.

782

:

Xhafer: Right.

783

:

You don't like bread enough, I guess.

784

:

Laura: I heard one that was really

good that probably other people who

785

:

listen to this podcast have already

heard this, but I hadn't heard it.

786

:

And it's, that sounds like

an ish you, not an ish me.

787

:

I really liked that one.

788

:

Xhafer: Is that something

the kids are saying?

789

:

Laura: Maybe cause I did get

it from a high school teacher.

790

:

So could

791

:

Xhafer: All

792

:

Laura: be the kids.

793

:

Xhafer: I don't remember that from this

last year's PowerPoint presentations,

794

:

but we had a lovely one given by uh,

your podcasting partner on cool girls and

795

:

my podcasting partner's spouse on last

time on Gloria, um, gave one on all of

796

:

the slang the kids are using these days

797

:

Laura: Yeah.

798

:

Xhafer: because she is

also a high school teacher.

799

:

Laura: have to run this one by her.

800

:

See if it passes the vibe test.

801

:

Yeah.

802

:

Yeah.

803

:

Yeah.

804

:

Xhafer: that goes.

805

:

Laura: Yeah.

806

:

Xhafer: So, okay.

807

:

So we're just, we're, we're,

we're double O ing this thing.

808

:

Are we going

809

:

to make

810

:

Laura: I think

811

:

Xhafer: thing for the scale?

812

:

Laura: we're, just, we've compared it to

a bunch of bad things like white bread.

813

:

Uh, so I think this is it, man.

814

:

I think we, we have diverted from the

scale not to do something interesting,

815

:

but to say like literally zero guys.

816

:

Xhafer: let's just skip this one.

817

:

Laura: It's bad.

818

:

Xhafer: were to watch, if you would only

be able to skip one episode of all of

819

:

Babylon 5, I'd probably suggest this one.

820

:

Laura: Yeah.

821

:

You know, I, it reminds me of, I think

it was an episode of next generation.

822

:

Where a planet had made, but like a

bunch of super soldiers and then the

823

:

super soldiers like turned on them.

824

:

Xhafer: Isn't that where Tasha Yar is

from or is that just a different episode?

825

:

Laura: I could, I don't

know next generation well

826

:

enough to like, make any

827

:

any further

828

:

Xhafer: haven't watched Next Gen

in like a long time, actually.

829

:

Laura: Yeah.

830

:

Xhafer: I'm almost done with

my Voyager watch through.

831

:

I'm getting there,

832

:

I should go back.

833

:

Laura: The, the super soldier angle,

I think was better done on next

834

:

generation.

835

:

Like this

836

:

Xhafer: on what's widely considered

to be the, one of the best

837

:

television shows of all time.

838

:

Did it better than crusade?

839

:

What?

840

:

Laura: really quick though,

that there were some stinkers

841

:

Xhafer: there are for sure.

842

:

Some stinkers looking at

you code of honor, but

843

:

Laura: Yeah.

844

:

I'm not sure if the super soldiers

one is actually a stinker or not,

845

:

but I remember something about this

and uh, yeah, this is a plot line.

846

:

I feel like sci fi has done in

a couple of different places.

847

:

And.

848

:

Xhafer: for sure, you don't have to.

849

:

You don't have to hide that and better.

850

:

Laura: Yeah, I kind of made a face

851

:

Xhafer: Joe's not

listening to our podcast.

852

:

We don't have to worry about

853

:

Laura: Yeah, that's true.

854

:

Sorry, Joe.

855

:

Xhafer: We're not gray 17 over here.

856

:

We don't have to worry about that stuff,

857

:

Laura: no, that's perfectly fine with me.

858

:

Xhafer: right?

859

:

All right.

860

:

Well, we got another one next week

861

:

Laura: We got to do it

862

:

Xhafer: fucking end and

there's no fucking end.

863

:

And we've got the well of forever,

864

:

Laura: Oh, yeah, that sounds like

a thing that could go on a while.

865

:

Xhafer: right?

866

:

Galen persuades Gideon to

seek a mystical crossroads.

867

:

An investigator probes Matheson's mind.

868

:

Laura: Okay, that part I'm interested in.

869

:

Xhafer: Some post Psi War Psi Core stuff.

870

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm

interested in anything happening

871

:

with Matheson and the telepaths.

872

:

Like, tell me more.

873

:

I don't know that I'm interested in the

mystical well of forever or whatever.

874

:

The mystical well of whatever.

875

:

God damn it, I should have said that.

876

:

Xhafer: Well, that's that.

877

:

I'm, I'm not excited

about this next episode.

878

:

I'll be honest, but what I

am excited about is to say

879

:

thank you to Jeremy Siegel.

880

:

Laura: Yay.

881

:

Xhafer: Thanks, Jeremy.

882

:

You're welcome.

883

:

We really appreciate the shit

out of you and everything you do.

884

:

Love our theme music.

885

:

Thank you so much for

putting that together for us.

886

:

You can find more of Jeremy's

work at JeremySiegel42.

887

:

Bandcamp.

888

:

com or on streaming

services as Nuclear Jaguar.

889

:

Laura: And thank you to Angry

Duck Time Machine on Instagram

890

:

for our podcast artwork.

891

:

Xhafer: Hey Aaron, we got a

quick one for you this week.

892

:

You're welcome.

893

:

But also thank you for

editing our podcast.

894

:

Really appreciate it.

895

:

Thank you.

896

:

Laura: Yeah, we do.

897

:

The real MVPs.

898

:

And thanks, listener,

for being here with us.

899

:

We're doing this for you.

900

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

901

:

We're not doing it for us.

902

:

Laura: We know that you love Crusaded.

903

:

You want to hear more.

904

:

But

905

:

Xhafer: saw Ryan post on gray

17 about making a joke about

906

:

them doing crusade today.

907

:

Ryan from yum yum.

908

:

I'm just all like, if only

909

:

Laura: Yeah.

910

:

Yeah.

911

:

Xhafer: not, no, this is the only

place you're going to find crusade

912

:

and we're the only ones who dare.

913

:

Laura: Well, if you're wanting

to make like serious pod.

914

:

Mm,

915

:

Xhafer: Yeah, that's, yeah, it's not

going to just watch Deathwalker again.

916

:

Just watch Deathwalker 13 times.

917

:

You'll be happier.

918

:

Laura: yeah, for sure, But you know what?

919

:

If you wanna like join the conversation

or just come hang out with some cool

920

:

people, you can come, come to our discord.

921

:

You can send us an email if

you're more of an email person.

922

:

We'd love to hear from you.

923

:

I don't know if we're gonna

do, like, a series recap

924

:

with, like, a ton of thoughts.

925

:

But if you have them,

we'd love to hear it.

926

:

Xhafer: I have one scheduled for us.

927

:

I don't, I, I, I don't know.

928

:

Laura: I don't know, maybe we'll get

lots of the Crusade hate mail that's

929

:

been living in people's chests for years.

930

:

Xhafer: hit, we have a S we have like a

series recap thing as like the capstone

931

:

on all, all of Babylon five together.

932

:

Laura: Uh Huh.

933

:

Xhafer: So maybe we'll

just kind of fold those in,

934

:

Laura: Yeah.

935

:

I think that we could get away with

936

:

Xhafer: maybe find something

else to do for that episode.

937

:

Laura: You have three Crusade scripts.

938

:

Xhafer: We do have three crusade scripts.

939

:

We might be able to, if we get

a big group together, we might

940

:

be able to do two readings.

941

:

Maybe we can do the best or one.

942

:

And then the finale we'll see.

943

:

I gotta, I gotta put that

fucking together tomorrow.

944

:

Laura: It, it's tough to choose when you

have, okay, so, listener, just so you

945

:

know, we have three scripts for Crusade.

946

:

And remind me what the

parameters were on those scripts.

947

:

Xhafer: So one is the episode that

would have been the next one to air,

948

:

Laura: Mm hmm.

949

:

Xhafer: Which Would have taken place like

four episodes ago in our watch order.

950

:

And it was supposed to kind of make some

more things make sense and kind of do

951

:

some work to align the new watch order.

952

:

Um, there's the uniform switch back

to the old uniforms from the new

953

:

ones in that episode and a couple

other continuity fixing things.

954

:

Um, there is an episode where they go to

a colony and find Bester hanging out, who

955

:

is a fugitive on the run from the Psi War.

956

:

Laura: Oh, I think we kind of remember

that part of his plot line from our book,

957

:

Xhafer: Yeah, we talked

about that in book club.

958

:

So this is, this is him hiding

out well before book club.

959

:

This is not literary critic Al in

960

:

Laura: No.

961

:

Yeah.

962

:

This is before his final evolution.

963

:

Yeah.

964

:

Xhafer: to see, we could see him

there and then we have what was

965

:

going to be the season finale.

966

:

Laura: I mean, all of those are tempting

in a way because of everything, you know?

967

:

Xhafer: they're not

super long, so we'll see.

968

:

We'll get a group together.

969

:

I have to do some plotting and

some planning, and I have to

970

:

reach out to some of our friends

in the podcasting community.

971

:

The what hopper, her network of podcasts.

972

:

of course, you know, we're going

to talk to all of our friends over.

973

:

And all of the other podcasts launched

and not because we've got two podcasts

974

:

that are about to launch at this point.

975

:

I won't say exactly the

date, but I've got a date.

976

:

I do have a official start date

for Attention Bajoran Workers right

977

:

Laura: All right

978

:

Xhafer: that's Victor's news to share.

979

:

So I won't, I won't put it out right now.

980

:

Cause I don't know when this airs in

relation to that, but I would expect it

981

:

to be very soon after this episode airs

982

:

Laura: So exciting.

983

:

Xhafer: and then cool girls.

984

:

Mike gets screwed up because

of Bethany's vacation.

985

:

But we'll figure that out too.

986

:

Uh, but cool, cool girls.

987

:

Don't look at explosions.

988

:

Also has like six episodes recorded

at this point and is raring to go.

989

:

So.

990

:

Exciting things happening

on the network front.

991

:

So I don't think those podcasts should

all be out by the time we do our script

992

:

reading, I think, cause the script reading

won't be until mid October, but we'll see.

993

:

Laura: I'm excited.

994

:

Xhafer: I'm excited to,

995

:

Laura: Okay.

996

:

Xhafer: that's it.

997

:

We already said goodbye.

998

:

I was about to, I was about to

segue into, into thank yous again.

999

:

Laura: We've said all the thank yous,

but we haven't said any, like, goodbyes

:

00:45:00,730 --> 00:45:01,040

Xhafer: Okay.

:

00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,140

We should say goodbye.

:

00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:02,940

Hey internet.

:

00:45:03,286 --> 00:45:05,816

we've bathed in this, this exit.

:

00:45:05,836 --> 00:45:10,206

We've, we've taken it and thrown it

over ourselves over and over again.

:

00:45:10,226 --> 00:45:14,516

It's a, it's absurd how long we've

made the end of this episode.

:

00:45:15,156 --> 00:45:15,376

you

:

00:45:15,391 --> 00:45:15,901

Laura: we're glad You

:

00:45:15,931 --> 00:45:16,541

stayed.

:

00:45:16,606 --> 00:45:19,776

Xhafer: I feel like a lot of people, I

know, I don't feel like a lot of people.

:

00:45:19,776 --> 00:45:25,546

I know I, when I hit the thank yous on a

podcast, I skipped to the next episode.

:

00:45:28,786 --> 00:45:30,706

Well, it's just like, it's

the end of the episode, right?

:

00:45:30,766 --> 00:45:33,666

Like, I mean, it's not

like a malicious thing.

:

00:45:33,666 --> 00:45:35,006

It's like, I see there's two minutes left.

:

00:45:35,006 --> 00:45:35,826

They start the thank yous.

:

00:45:35,826 --> 00:45:39,376

I stop, I guess for this episode,

they'll see the thank you start.

:

00:45:39,376 --> 00:45:42,386

See that there's like 10 minutes left

and wonder what the fuck is going on.

:

00:45:44,001 --> 00:45:45,151

Laura: The best thank yous.

:

00:45:45,306 --> 00:45:48,396

Xhafer: Um, but yeah thanks

so much internet for sticking

:

00:45:48,396 --> 00:45:50,536

around really appreciate.

:

00:45:51,001 --> 00:45:57,681

You'd be in here really appreciate the

community that's developed around us

:

00:45:57,681 --> 00:46:01,961

making Dick and fart jokes about a show

that I fondly remember from my childhood.

:

00:46:02,691 --> 00:46:03,131

Laura: Mm hmm.

:

00:46:03,311 --> 00:46:05,661

Xhafer: And as much as we make jokes

about crusade being terrible, and it

:

00:46:05,661 --> 00:46:10,271

is, it is a hundred percent worth it

to just be able to every Wednesday,

:

00:46:10,371 --> 00:46:13,671

see the discord pop off with people

making jokes about how bad it is

:

00:46:14,571 --> 00:46:17,868

or or whatever else happens to

be going on that day uh, in the

:

00:46:17,868 --> 00:46:20,768

community, I really appreciate

getting to interact with all of you.

:

00:46:21,453 --> 00:46:24,373

And just being a part of It

:

00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:26,803

Laura: It has enriched my life

:

00:46:26,853 --> 00:46:29,483

Xhafer: a hundred percent,

a hundred percent.

:

00:46:30,253 --> 00:46:33,233

Laura: especially right now when

I'm going through like that big life

:

00:46:33,263 --> 00:46:38,023

change of being a student again, it

is very grounding to come and spend

:

00:46:38,023 --> 00:46:39,693

this time with you once a week ish.

:

00:46:39,693 --> 00:46:43,953

Xhafer: This is something I was actually

planning on asking you at the end,

:

00:46:44,283 --> 00:46:47,633

at like episode one 50, when we were

done with this all entirely before we

:

00:46:47,633 --> 00:46:52,393

moved on to Battlestar, do you think

you will go back and listen to, do you

:

00:46:52,403 --> 00:46:53,413

go back and listen to this podcast?

:

00:46:53,433 --> 00:46:55,863

Like, have you listened to like

season one of this podcast?

:

00:46:58,003 --> 00:47:02,627

Laura: I listened, I think through

part of season one, but I don't know

:

00:47:02,627 --> 00:47:03,757

that I made it all the way through

:

00:47:04,072 --> 00:47:05,152

Xhafer: Not as it was airing.

:

00:47:05,172 --> 00:47:06,402

I mean, like now, I

:

00:47:07,387 --> 00:47:09,227

Laura: Oh, I haven't listened to anything.

:

00:47:09,482 --> 00:47:10,992

Xhafer: wonder what that would be like.

:

00:47:11,952 --> 00:47:14,152

Laura: To listen to our own podcast again.

:

00:47:14,542 --> 00:47:14,832

Xhafer: Wow.

:

00:47:14,842 --> 00:47:20,292

Well, no, it's so like, I mean, I, I

famously can't listen to my own voice.

:

00:47:20,432 --> 00:47:20,702

Right.

:

00:47:20,702 --> 00:47:21,162

I hate it.

:

00:47:21,352 --> 00:47:21,962

Laura: Famously.

:

00:47:22,262 --> 00:47:23,572

Xhafer: Yeah I'm known for it.

:

00:47:23,572 --> 00:47:27,872

If you look up a person who won't listen

to themselves, talk on the internet, in

:

00:47:27,872 --> 00:47:30,442

the dictionary, that phrase, it's my face.

:

00:47:31,195 --> 00:47:38,245

but it's like, what an interesting

microcosm that could be of our friendship.

:

00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:39,199

Laura: Uh Huh.

:

00:47:39,609 --> 00:47:43,059

Xhafer: Of us literally getting to

know each other, like knowing, knowing

:

00:47:43,059 --> 00:47:44,639

each other now, as well as we do

:

00:47:45,149 --> 00:47:45,569

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:45,609 --> 00:47:45,849

huh.

:

00:47:46,469 --> 00:47:51,729

Xhafer: regularly outside of

podcast, vacationing together, like,

:

00:47:51,789 --> 00:47:51,939

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:53,019 --> 00:47:57,629

Xhafer: like talking about trips and

stuff, you know, being involved in

:

00:47:57,629 --> 00:48:02,799

each other's lives, especially now, you

know, you podcast with my partner, um,

:

00:48:02,849 --> 00:48:06,819

you know, some of your other friends

in your life are some of my best

:

00:48:06,819 --> 00:48:11,999

friends, like, We are like ingrained

right now in each other's lives.

:

00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,479

And I wonder what we sound like back then.

:

00:48:15,489 --> 00:48:18,899

Sometimes I'm like, I'm not interested

in like going and hearing me talk.

:

00:48:19,219 --> 00:48:22,489

I'm interested in hearing

what we sound like.

:

00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:23,379

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:48:23,749 --> 00:48:27,879

And it's so interesting, like, that

the, the newly budding researcher

:

00:48:27,879 --> 00:48:33,609

in me is like, we put down a record

of our friendship and its growth.

:

00:48:33,999 --> 00:48:39,959

Like, it's there forever until, you

know, all the electrons die or whatever.

:

00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:40,489

Xhafer: Right.

:

00:48:40,499 --> 00:48:41,979

It's crazy to think about.

:

00:48:42,296 --> 00:48:43,966

Laura: Yeah, it really is.

:

00:48:44,592 --> 00:48:44,772

Xhafer: All right.

:

00:48:44,772 --> 00:48:45,992

We'll see you next week, internet.

:

00:48:46,342 --> 00:48:46,702

Laura: All right.

:

00:48:46,702 --> 00:48:47,282

Bye.

:

00:49:05,426 --> 00:49:06,336

Are we both high?

:

00:49:06,336 --> 00:49:06,699

Bye.

:

00:49:06,699 --> 00:49:07,062

Bye.

:

00:49:08,536 --> 00:49:09,476

Xhafer: Are we both high?

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.