Episode 192

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Published on:

22nd Oct 2025

BSG S3E3 - Top of Himbo Mountain

Laura and Xhafer rank the himbos of BSG. Laura wonders when Tyrol had time to shave his beard. Xhafer pitches for a Tushy sponsorship. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 3, Episode 3: Exodus, Part 1.

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Laura:

Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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We're a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast by a couple of former

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strangers, now friends who are watching

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I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: And I'm Jair,

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Laura: Yeah.

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And how are you?

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Jair?

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Xhafer: I'm sick.

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I am on day four five of co.

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Well, okay, so I had a cough on Monday.

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It is Saturday.

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I am still sick.

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My cough on Monday was not bad.

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I worked Monday and Tuesday,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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I did not, could not work.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Like I know it's bad.

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I play the LinkedIn puzzles every day.

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Right.

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Laura: Oh, I've heard of these

things, but I have not done them.

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Xhafer: I, I really enjoy 'em.

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Uh, but it's like something I do

at like six 30 in the morning.

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I get up, I go to the bathroom

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: and I just like take a minute

for myself before I'm doing anything

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and I do the LinkedIn puzzles, right?

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And, and that's just like

how I like to start my day.

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It's like how I like to wake

up is like, oh, let's, let's

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wake the brain up a little bit.

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Right.

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Laura: Sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: I don't mean to

be braggadocious here.

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I typically do well at the puzzles, right.

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I've learned the tricks.

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I've learned the things that they're

trying to make you do the little,

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like Sudoku style logic things.

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It means this thing

means that thing, right?

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I've learned a lot of

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Laura: is a famous puzzle, man.

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Xhafer: I do enjoy my puzzles.

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I typically do pretty well.

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it will tell you like how well

you've done in relation to everyone

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who's done the puzzle so far.

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and so I'm normally like doing

really well and this last couple

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of days I have not been doing well.

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taking me two, three times as long

as soft puzzles as it normally does.

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And that's like my indication now in

the morning that it's gonna be a bad day

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because my brain is just running on fumes.

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: And it's just like, okay,

maybe I shouldn't go into work and

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try to do advanced mathematics.

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If,

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Laura: Right,

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Xhafer: is gonna be a problem right now,

maybe I'm not gonna be able to do my job.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Uh, even working from

home, like, it's just like, ugh.

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Laura: it's like a foggy brain.

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Xhafer: Have you ever

pushed yourself too far?

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Like in accounting?

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I feel like this is something

where you could do it too.

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The same with coding, where you'll

make a mistake and three days

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later you will find that mistake.

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And it is more work to fix that

mistake than it is would've been

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Laura: To just do it,

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Xhafer: just do it.

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Right.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: That's the kind of that kind

of problem that you make for yourself

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: a hundred percent of the time

with this kind of a thing when you're

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trying to do any kind of coding.

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So

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Laura: This is hilarious because I

literally had that moment yesterday where

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I discovered mistake I made many days ago.

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That messed up my data set for analysis.

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Xhafer: Oh, I'm sorry.

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That's a bad day.

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Laura: Yeah.

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So I was like trying to un

untie those problems yesterday

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and it took me several hours.

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I think I have untitled the problems,

but I am now trying to rerun the code

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that I built, like hoping that I don't

have to make more changes down the line.

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Xhafer: I mean, if it's just,

if it's column mistakes,

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you might run into problems.

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If it's raw mistakes in your

data set, you're probably fine.

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But yeah, that's the kind of thing you

wanna avoid, which is why I've taken

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most of this week off work and just

been, I played a lot of Hades too.

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Laura: Cool.

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Xhafer: Which is a really good game.

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I played enough Hades two while I was sick

and before I was sick to have beaten it.

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I didn't uh, perfect

ending it for listeners.

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I did get the credits though, which

is beating it like 15 or 20 times.

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: 'cause it's that kind of a game.

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And uh, yesterday I was just all like,

I really wanna play Ghost of Fi and I

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haven't been able to go buy it because

I've been sick since it's came out.

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So I said fuck it and bought

it on digital, which is

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something I try not to do.

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I like to buy digital copies of

games or physical copies of games.

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Always

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: but I said fuck it.

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And now I've been doing that for the

last two days 'cause I've been so sick

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that doing anything else, I'll play a

video game for like four hours, then

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my brain will just be exhausted and

I just can't play the game anymore.

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I'm

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Laura: Brain goes Sleep now.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Like put on a movie and take a

nap kind of a thing has been my life.

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That's how sick I am right now.

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And I'm at the tail end of that.

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I did wake up from a

nap about an hour ago.

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I took DayQuil about 40 minutes ago.

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I've been drinking tea.

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This is me at my most optimal right now,

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Laura: yeah.

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yeah.

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Xhafer: well, I hope I make it listeners.

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Laura: we are glad to have you at your

most optimal, I will put out one very

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special PSA before we actually dig into

episode that with all the, like, confusion

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in the world around the CDC being like,

oh, COVID vaccine no longer recommended

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or whatever, I was not sure if I, as a

person under 65, could still get one.

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And when I happened to be at the pharmacy,

I was just like, oh, hey, could you tell

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me if my insurance still covers that?

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And the guy seemed

surprised I was even asking.

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He was like, it definitely should.

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I'll double check.

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And it does.

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And he went ahead and got, gave me a shot.

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So I, I did get that like last

week and it'll be a couple weeks

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later whenever this comes out.

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But if you were feeling like you

didn't understand listener, if you

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could get it, you probably can.

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So go

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Xhafer: can go get shots.

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I'm faxed up.

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Uh, I don't think I got, I, I don't

know if there's been a new COVID

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shot variant since I got my last one.

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I wanna say I got my

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Laura: There was a new one that

came out like this month is what

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Xhafer: Okay.

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I have not had that one, and I

should have, but I just haven't been

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to my doctor and I was not aware.

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Um, so it is, it is not willful

that I haven't gotten the new one.

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Laura: Well, we're glad you're here.

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We're very sorry you're sick

and we hope you get well soon.

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Uh.

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Xhafer: Thank you.

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I hope I get well soon too.

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Laura: We have, you know, the most healing

piece of media to talk about today.

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Xhafer: All right.

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We got Battlestar Galactica.

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Exodus part one.

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You did at my recommendation?

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Watch both.

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Right.

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Laura: Yes.

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It was a long night, but we did, yes.

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Xhafer: Uh, do you regret that decision?

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Laura: Uh, no.

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I mean, I was pretty, pretty

freaking tired this morning

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and still pretty bummed.

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Uh, but when I, we got to the

end of the first one, I was like,

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yeah, I see why he said that.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I watched them a day apart and was

just like, we're just doing this one.

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Um, so we'll try to keep things

that in the next episode.

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In next episode.

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If you haven't watched them both.

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I don't think there's anything

particularly that we'll get

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into, uh, that spoils it.

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But just if I say something

that's kind of a little like, Hey,

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that's a spoiler for next episode.

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Sorry.

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In advance.

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Laura: What kind of content

warning do you put on this one?

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Xhafer: God, I don't know.

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Did I write one down?

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I usually try to write one down.

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Laura: I don't know if we need one as bad.

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Well, I guess we, we do

see some eye stuff, so

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Xhafer: There's some i i stuff

is I stuff a content warning.

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I mean, we're not showing I

stuff, it's an audio format.

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So just, just saying I stuff,

is that enough for people?

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I don't know that I, I don't

mean to be insensitive.

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I honestly, I don't know

where the line is with I stuff

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Laura: Yeah.

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Uh, I think next episode we

get some, uh, really more like,

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yes, we could probably put.

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Definitive content warning on that topic.

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Um, but yeah, no le bin's still up

to his shit with, um, kidnapped Uck.

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So there's that.

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Also, if it's gonna be tough,

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Um,

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Laura: away,

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Laura: it's okay.

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Xhafer: prisoner stuff.

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: next episode's definitely worse.

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Uh, but this one was not great in terms

of Lee Obin being a decent creature.

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Laura: yeah.

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Xhafer: But we open, in the last

minutes of the previous episode, we

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see Jamer grab Callie, set her free,

she's running, we hear the gunshots,

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and then we rewind an hour without

any new information being given to us.

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These rude motherfuckers.

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Laura: We rewind in an hour and.

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yeah, maybe it's clear like when we

get to where we were, it's not clear.

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Like to me

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Xhafer: Nothing's clear to me right now.

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Laura: Yeah, when anything's like, I,

I don't know that, but we have one hour

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guys, everything that is happening now,

we have an hour to get to where we were.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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And we get to see what happened to a

couple of the characters that we were

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not following at the end of last episode.

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What they're doing,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: uh, the salos gets

a new eye patch put on.

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Laura: Oh, and it's so,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: so sad, like.

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This is a very tender moment with

him and Ellen of, you know, he's like

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trying to do it, but I guess his depth

perception isn't right with the one eye

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Xhafer: That's what happens.

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Laura: can't put his eye patch

on his face and it's very sad.

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And he is kind of helpless, like in a way

we haven't really seen Saul be helpless.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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It's sad, like the loss

of the depth perception.

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Uh, I can't speak from

personal experience,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: but my dog has one

eye and my dog lost an eye,

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uh, a year and a half ago, two

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Laura: Yeah.

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I remember.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Um.

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Laura: I don't know if we

talked about it on pod, but.

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Xhafer: Uh, we noticed a, a, a thing

growing in her eye and it started, it,

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we, we watched it basically double in

size over the course of a couple of

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weeks, and we took her to a specialist

and they're like, look, the only

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way we'll know this isn't cancer.

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It's bad.

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Clearly it, it might not be causing

her pain now, but it's going

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too soon and we can't biopsy it

out and have her keep her eye.

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So the eye is going no matter what.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: And so it's like, do it.

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And, uh, you know, she recovered fine.

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Uh, but, uh, her depth

perception is so wonky and she's

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like, she's very eager dog.

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She's very eager to greet you at the door,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: and she doesn't know how

close the door is to her face anymore.

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And so she just constantly, just her,

her head just gets bonked all the time.

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Laura: bless your heart.

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Puffins,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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She's such a good girl.

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Laura: uh, poor soul, and.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: You know, Ellen is very

kind to him here and, um, as she's

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like putting on the iPad, she

like almost confesses everything.

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I think she's ready to tell

Saul what she did while he

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was imprisoned to get him out.

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She's ready to tell him, you

know, I may have made a mistake

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and given them more information,

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: we're not gonna get that moment.

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'cause Tyrell bust in

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: a copy of the list

of everyone who's taken.

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And I guess they at this point have

figured out that not only are they

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taken, they're going to be executed.

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Oh, that's because guy signed a

Gaia, signed their execution order.

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Right?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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So, yeah, he's got the execution

order from Gaia's desk.

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It has where it's like the plan, it's

like got the location and what, what

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they're going to be doing and who

they're rounding up and everything.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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So that's probably Gada intelligence.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Oh, this has to

be data intelligence.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Uh,

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he is freaking the fuck out.

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but Saul is picture of calm and coolness

and reminds him like, Hey, if you freak

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out, we are not gonna get Cali back.

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Like, you have to be calm

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Xhafer: you're gonna

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Laura: or you are gonna lose her.

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Xhafer: right now and

you're gonna have to do it.

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Right.

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And then you'll be fine because we have

every, the pieces we need to solve this

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puzzle to figure out where they're going.

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Laura: Yep.

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Xhafer: You just need to do it.

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Laura: We have the thing that

decodes the coordinates or whatever.

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'cause he's like talking about,

I don't know where this is.

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And he is like, well, go get the

freaking list and we'll decode it.

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Like, but you gotta do this, you

gotta coordinate your information.

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or your baby is gonna grow up

with me and Ellen for parents

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and that would be terrible.

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Xhafer: Yeah, that is the best

encouragement Saul can offer is

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if you fuck this up that bad,

then Nicholas is gonna get raised

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by us and it's all like, oh God.

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Laura: I'm cracking up.

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'cause I'm thinking like the, that

when we had the, um, what was it, the

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dedication or whatever they called

it, the, the baby baptism basically.

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does that mean they were like, yes, solid.

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Ellen are the ones we

want to be the godparents.

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Like they, they were like,

yeah, this is a good idea,

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Xhafer: I don't think, I mean, you

probably go Duck and Nora, right?

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Laura: but they're gone

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Xhafer: they're gone

now and it's like, uh,

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Laura: Whoopsie.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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sometimes like it's like, I don't

know, I haven't been a parent, so

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it's hard for me to to say, but

it's just like, you know, which of

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the people that I know what I want.

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Raising hypothetical children.

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There's definitely people that I love

dearly that I would not put on that list.

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Laura: yeah, I think that's

a, I think that's a universal

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experience for everyone.

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We all love someone very dearly that we,

we would not entrust our progeny with.

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Xhafer: no, just like,

I'm not gonna name names.

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Uh, and it's just like, Ugh.

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Mm.

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You sure?

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Mm.

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There might be some better

choices before you get to that.

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Laura: Oh, Saul and Ellen.

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Not at the top of my list.

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Xhafer: not at the top of mind either.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Even though I.

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It, it's hard to say because we have

not had a lot of time with Ellen,

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but I feel like she has learned

something from this experience.

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I feel like she has been changed by the

year and four months on New Caprica.

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mostly the last four months probably.

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Xhafer: definitely a lot more

traumatic than the previous year.

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Laura: yeah.

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I'm sure the previous year had

its own like harshness of like,

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oh, it's cold all the time.

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Uh, we can't grow anything.

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Uh, you know, we're out of

toilet paper or whatever.

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And like, that was probably educational

for a woman like Ellen, but the last four

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months have been the big real learning.

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She does seem genuinely like remorseful

and afraid as she's kind of like slapped

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in the face with all the consequences

of handing over that information, even

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though she's like, she's motivated by

trying to save Saul, but she is very like.

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Blinders on narrow focused

and not thinking about what

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does saving Saul mean really?

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If the rest of everything

falls apart, it means nothing.

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Xhafer: Right.

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Laura: She's just not very smart.

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Xhafer: Uh, we go to theme

still no survival count.

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I don't think we get one

until episode five or six.

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Laura: Okay.

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Yeah, we've got some picking up to do.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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we come back and Tyro figures

out where they need to go.

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He grabs Celick, uh,

to get two more people.

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Has the, they watch

trucks start to move out.

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We cut over to Anders

and Sharon syncing up.

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It's the same as last

episode for a moment here.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Not really anything new here.

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He does make a good joke.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Oh.

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With the ICU every day.

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Laura: yeah.

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I feel like I see you every

day and she kind of looks

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like maybe a little hurt, but.

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Also, it's true.

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Xhafer: play.

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Yeah.

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Laura: That's the nature of the thing.

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sorry, Sharon.

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Xhafer: Tyro gets his crew and

they get set up to take out the

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centurion's, but Callie is somehow

running directly in the way.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: When we saw earlier, Callie

looked like she was running through

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forest and now she's like running

through barren rocks in directly in line.

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Laura: Uhhuh

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also, it looked like Callie and previously

had been running like downhill, and she's

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very clearly running uphill at them,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I could do some mental gymnastics

of like camera placement and maybe

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there's just forest just to the

right of her that we just don't see

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or something to make it work with

the camera angles and everything.

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It's like that one spot where you can

park your car in neutral and it goes up.

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Like you ever seen one of those tourist

traps or is that just a Michigan thing?

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We have that in Michigan.

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There's a place you can park

your car and put your car in

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neutral and it just goes up and

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Laura: That is not something I've seen.

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No.

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Xhafer: this is, now,

obviously this is an illusion.

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Your car is going down, gravity is

pulling it, but the way that like

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everything is geologically arranged,

you kind of feel like you're

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going up, even though you're not.

413

:

Laura: Weird,

414

:

Xhafer: it's the mystery

spot or something.

415

:

I don't know.

416

:

I figured there was more than one

of these in the United States 'cause

417

:

it's felt very touristy, trappy to me.

418

:

Laura: I don't have one of those.

419

:

Uh, we have a spot in Tulsa

called the Center of the Universe

420

:

that's like super echoey.

421

:

It's a downtown and you just like

stand in this spot and everything

422

:

just echoes back and forth at you.

423

:

It's really weird.

424

:

Xhafer: Huh.

425

:

That's

426

:

Laura: I don't, I don't know if it

was an intentional design or if it

427

:

just like got noticed that like,

oh, hey, this spot is really weird.

428

:

No, never heard of that.

429

:

Xhafer: Okay.

430

:

Well it's in northern Michigan.

431

:

Google it, I guess.

432

:

I don't know.

433

:

Laura: Yeah.

434

:

Kelly's right in the way of them

trying to take out these battle bots.

435

:

Great job, Callie.

436

:

Xhafer: She ran in the exact one place

that puts her in dramatic danger.

437

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

438

:

Xhafer: Uh, Galen runs out and gets

Callie safe right as Cix and the

439

:

crew open fire, saving the collected

humans from the firing squad.

440

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

441

:

Xhafer: And at the same time we see

the gunnery sergeant with Sharon's

442

:

squad take out the ambushes.

443

:

they find Ander's Map on a dead silo.

444

:

Laura: Yeah, a dead cavel, right?

445

:

Xhafer: Yeah, it's a dead cavel.

446

:

And he immediately knows.

447

:

It must have been Ellen who saved it

from the fire and gave it to the Cylons.

448

:

Laura: Yeah.

449

:

Anders is a quick boy.

450

:

Uh, he, he knows this is his map.

451

:

This is his handwriting.

452

:

Xhafer: Like the guy like calls out

like, Hey, this is your handwriting

453

:

on this map that these cylons have

immediately question him like, like it

454

:

is, like he's the resistance leader.

455

:

It's like, sure.

456

:

It's like why did the silence have

a map with your fucking handwriting?

457

:

Laura: yeah, I wondered the same thing.

458

:

I was like, why are we

not, uh, like doing a.

459

:

One of those fake, well, okay,

now everybody is thinking mad

460

:

at Anders and thinking Anders is

the betrayer, but we don't even

461

:

seem to make that a whole thing.

462

:

Xhafer: So I have to ask, because

you've been ride or die for

463

:

Team Anders as a silo, was there

464

:

Laura: have,

465

:

Xhafer: I mean, a moment where

your brain was all like, maybe

466

:

it's Anders and not Ellen.

467

:

Laura: you know, it's weird

that I didn't have that moment,

468

:

I guess because we saw Ellen

469

:

Xhafer: we do see Ellen do.

470

:

We know Ellen does this stuff,

like they definitively show

471

:

us Ellen does this stuff.

472

:

So I guess that

473

:

Laura: and she,

474

:

yeah, I, I, I just,

475

:

no, I I didn't think

this was part of that.

476

:

didn't think Anders was any party to it.

477

:

Xhafer: Okay.

478

:

Thought it was worth

479

:

Laura: Yeah.

480

:

I am not changing my.

481

:

Stance on Andrews yet?

482

:

Xhafer: Okay.

483

:

That's fair.

484

:

Laura: Not, not ready to go that far.

485

:

But, I really enjoyed in this like

aftermath of, we're, we're picking up

486

:

here at the quarry and we're, we're

getting all the survivors rescued.

487

:

We get a moment where, uh,

Zurich, really liked being

488

:

thrown to the ground by Rosalyn.

489

:

He definitely liked it.

490

:

Xhafer: Yeah, sure did.

491

:

Laura: Rosalyn saved his life.

492

:

I want them to not be enemies.

493

:

I, I don't know that that's, that.

494

:

I'm gonna get that, but I want

them to not be enemies now.

495

:

It was kind of liking their, their

whole energy, these two episodes.

496

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

497

:

I can only make the face so much.

498

:

Um,

499

:

Laura: Yep.

500

:

Xhafer: yeah.

501

:

Tyrell checks in on Rosalyn and Zrich and

tells them that Papa Dama is on the way

502

:

and they're going home back to Galactica.

503

:

Laura: Hey, I got a question.

504

:

I didn't notice it until this moment, but

it must have happened sometime earlier.

505

:

But when the fuck did

Tyrell shave off his beard?

506

:

Xhafer: Oh yeah.

507

:

At some point

508

:

Laura: I mean, I think it was

there through all the last episode.

509

:

I don't know now though,

510

:

Xhafer: he,

511

:

Laura: but it's definitely

512

:

Xhafer: What What we

don't see is that hour.

513

:

Right.

514

:

And that's just him

shaving the entire time.

515

:

He's all like, I gotta save Cali, but

first I gotta shave this beard off.

516

:

Laura: Oh, we do see that not

only did they kill one Cavel, but

517

:

there is another cavel here at

the quarry that they don't kill.

518

:

They're just gonna leave him.

519

:

'cause we don't want him

to download too fast.

520

:

Then everyone will know

what we've done here,

521

:

Xhafer: yeah, yeah.

522

:

I gotta let him die the slow way,

which we'll hear more about later.

523

:

Laura: Yep.

524

:

Xhafer: for now, we cut to Deanna having

a obtuse vision of her holding a baby.

525

:

Real big, uh, resistance

episodes, energy in this shot.

526

:

Laura: yeah.

527

:

She's, she's just like hallucinating

about, I think she sees the tent to like,

528

:

there's a, a weird tent with a bunch of

sticks and rocks and she hears a baby

529

:

crying and she gets to hold the baby.

530

:

And it's interesting that

we're having these visions.

531

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

532

:

Laura: it will get more interesting

as we go to the weird tent

533

:

with all the rocks and sticks.

534

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

535

:

But first we're over to President

Baltar's Electric, psychedelic

536

:

Pussycat, swingers Club.

537

:

he says, you know, that joke worked

better when I don't have a sore throat.

538

:

Uh, he says Dole is trying to get a

tushy sponsorship for new caprica.

539

:

Laura: Oh no.

540

:

First we gotta talk about

how he can't get it up.

541

:

That's the only reason we're talking in

the first place is for some reason he and

542

:

six are like gonna do it, but he can't.

543

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

544

:

He, he has a conscience that

prevents him from getting erection.

545

:

Laura: I

546

:

Xhafer: it was possible for guys.

547

:

Baltar.

548

:

Laura: you know, I, there was

some other things that I was like,

549

:

man, it's, it's amazing what.

550

:

Gais Baltar's mind will like

warp itself around so that he

551

:

doesn't have to face anything.

552

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

553

:

I mean, this is the guy

who famously has like, I.

554

:

Had sex with a ghost

in the middle of rooms,

555

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

556

:

Xhafer: of anyone who you would

think would not have a problem

557

:

given any situation, uh, rising

to the occasion as it were.

558

:

It would be Gaia volar,

559

:

Laura: Yeah.

560

:

Xhafer: Gaia horn dog, Baltar.

561

:

Laura: gross.

562

:

He's so gross.

563

:

Xhafer: He's pretty gross.

564

:

Laura: he, he does sarcastically

ask her about her day at his

565

:

office, like basically saying,

you guys are running all my stuff.

566

:

So I am mad.

567

:

But yes, he thinks, uh, do

one of the dolls thinks that.

568

:

Toilet paper is the problem.

569

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

570

:

And it's not, they need to get bidets.

571

:

I'm telling you.

572

:

Tushy.

573

:

Hey, we're here.

574

:

Just throwing

575

:

it out there.

576

:

We're right here getting the discord.

577

:

'cause we're bad at emails and Facebook,

578

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

579

:

Please.

580

:

I, I think that the listener would be

delighted to see Toshi in the discord.

581

:

Yeah.

582

:

Yeah.

583

:

No sanitation.

584

:

I don't know.

585

:

They, the Doral might be onto

something, is all I'm saying.

586

:

I bet there's an economist out there

who is willing to, uh, research

587

:

the effect of Toshiba days on,

uh, human societal trust levels.

588

:

Xhafer: Mm.

589

:

I installed one in the house

maybe a month and a half ago,

590

:

and I gotta say morale is up so.

591

:

Laura: Man, I, I do believe he mentions

at some point that, no, maybe it's not

592

:

this dole, but there's dole's getting

shot definitely in this episode.

593

:

And I was like, don't, don't

let those genius ideas have to

594

:

be, uh, re-uploaded or whatever.

595

:

That's good stuff.

596

:

That's gold.

597

:

Xhafer: yeah,

598

:

Laura: six is a little cryptic.

599

:

She asked Gais if he knows

what she gave up for him.

600

:

I don't know what that was actually,

601

:

Xhafer: on Caprica, Cylon, utopia.

602

:

That'd be a weird thing to move

your whole species over for though

603

:

Laura: for Gais, because

604

:

Xhafer: of everyone.

605

:

For

606

:

Laura: I.

607

:

Yeah, like the Caprica six way

back in the like mini series.

608

:

I don't, I don't know that I got

the vibe that she was like that

609

:

into him, like that, into him.

610

:

She wanted him to love her, I guess.

611

:

Xhafer: absence makes the heart grow.

612

:

Fonder.

613

:

Absence makes you forget what a douche

bag somebody is maybe might be more apt

614

:

Laura: yeah, I, I don't know.

615

:

Is it just like, it's just been

eating at her that she couldn't

616

:

get his love and so she's back here

also not really getting his love.

617

:

it has big toxic vibes.

618

:

Xhafer: sure.

619

:

Laura: she tries to leave,

but he asks her not to anyway,

620

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

621

:

Laura: she doesn't.

622

:

We get some like, is it six PT music

623

:

coming?

624

:

Like, Hmm,

625

:

Xhafer: Kara continues to watch

Casey as bin watches them.

626

:

Ick.

627

:

That's literally all I wrote was ick.

628

:

Laura: Yeah.

629

:

She's like, get putting

Casey down to nap time

630

:

and, he's just creeping on them and,

Casey like grabs Starbucks little

631

:

pinky finger as she's about to leave,

632

:

Xhafer: Which is adorable,

633

:

Laura: it is adorable.

634

:

Xhafer: but also, is that baby Evil?

635

:

Laura: Yeah.

636

:

Leo Obin is definitely evil

for watching all of this.

637

:

Xhafer: Yes.

638

:

Laura: He's so gross.

639

:

Xhafer: He's the worst.

640

:

Laura: But Deanna finds the tent

with the weird sticks and rocks.

641

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

642

:

The Oracle is in there taking some

Kamala, she says it's bitter to

643

:

swallow, but when you look at the

alternative, it's not that bad

644

:

Laura: The alternative of not taking it,

645

:

Xhafer: of not taking Kamala.

646

:

Laura: Uhhuh,

647

:

Xhafer: If you had to choose

between Kamala and something else

648

:

Laura: mm-hmm,

649

:

Xhafer: and you chose something

else, I wonder if you now regret

650

:

that decision and maybe the Kamala

wasn't so bitter in the first place.

651

:

That's all.

652

:

That's all I'm saying.

653

:

I mean, candy, she asked for

candy because the taste is bitter.

654

:

Yeah.

655

:

Yeah.

656

:

Laura: Right, right.

657

:

she's got a sweet rock collection

on the inside of her tent as well.

658

:

Just so many fucking rocks.

659

:

Xhafer: It's got, uh,

like rock garden vibes.

660

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

661

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

662

:

Laura: I wonder like this, Oracle has

a name, but I don't remember her name.

663

:

Xhafer: They say it once,

664

:

eh,

665

:

Laura: Yeah.

666

:

Yep.

667

:

Started with a DI remember that part.

668

:

Xhafer: it was in the preview for the

episode, and we heard it there as many

669

:

times as we heard it in the episode.

670

:

So

671

:

Laura: Yep.

672

:

Yep.

673

:

I wonder like when she was brought

into the fleet, however she

674

:

came into the fleet, was she an

oracle at that time, or does one.

675

:

Go through some stuff and take

some Kamala and become an Oracle.

676

:

Like I, I don't know,

677

:

Xhafer: what's the process?

678

:

How much Kamala do I need to ingest?

679

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

680

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

681

:

I don't think we ever know.

682

:

Laura: How many people are

running around with Kamala two?

683

:

Like

684

:

Xhafer: I mean, Rosalyn was on it

pretty regularly for a minute there.

685

:

Laura: mm-hmm.

686

:

Yeah.

687

:

this, this Kamala seems to really

make a person prophetic because she

688

:

knows exactly what Deanna's whole deal

689

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

690

:

This is like, this is good shit, right?

691

:

Like this is the spice

692

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

693

:

Yeah.

694

:

Xhafer: It's like, good, good.

695

:

Laura: she tells her that Zeus sees

everything, she being the oracle and.

696

:

Deanna's, like, no, there is no Zeus.

697

:

There is only the one true God.

698

:

Or whatever.

699

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

700

:

Laura: And the Oracle's like, eh, but

you don't really think that anymore.

701

:

Xhafer: Gotcha.

702

:

Bitch.

703

:

Laura: Oh, we gotta talk

about who this Oracle is.

704

:

Did you know the

705

:

Xhafer: No, I didn't clock it.

706

:

Who is it?

707

:

Laura: It is Amanda Plummer.

708

:

Xhafer: Oh, no.

709

:

Shit.

710

:

Good for her.

711

:

Amanda.

712

:

Plumber's so great.

713

:

Laura: Yeah.

714

:

I love, I love a, a creepy

Amanda Plummer in appearance.

715

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

716

:

Yeah, she's, she's fantastic.

717

:

Great actress.

718

:

Laura: Yeah.

719

:

Uh, it, it was a little harder to tell

with, she's got like a, not a turban, but

720

:

Xhafer: She's got stuff on her head.

721

:

Laura: some hat made of rags

722

:

that also comes down, like

interesting whole thing going on.

723

:

Do people come to the Oracle and like give

her money to tell them prophecy stuff?

724

:

Like,

725

:

Xhafer: I mean, I mean, you

either bring money or food

726

:

like necessities, right?

727

:

Laura: Yeah.

728

:

Xhafer: Like, I don't know

how their society is set up.

729

:

No one's got currency, it

seems, I'm guessing that

730

:

Laura: But they have a market.

731

:

Xhafer: they're, they're

not at all automated.

732

:

un luxury space communism.

733

:

Laura: They're like the worst

kind of subsistence capitalism

734

:

or something like, Ooh,

735

:

Xhafer: I mean, if everyone, just,

the people who farm just give

736

:

their food out and everyone who

does stuff does stuff, then, you

737

:

know, everyone works for society.

738

:

I mean, when you've got historically

speaking, communes can handle

739

:

communism a lot easier than countries.

740

:

Laura: Sure.

741

:

Yeah.

742

:

Xhafer: And, you know, the

743

:

Laura: We do not have enough

people to have a country, I think

744

:

Xhafer: I mean, the

population here is like.

745

:

Green Bay, Wisconsin, smaller than Green

Bay, or maybe bigger than Green Bay.

746

:

Green Bay is actually a pretty

tiny town, but it's like

747

:

30,000 something people, right.

748

:

Laura: probably.

749

:

Yeah.

750

:

Xhafer: I can think of a city with like

30,000 something people that I'm aware of.

751

:

You know, like I, I know how big

that town is, so I, yeah, kind

752

:

of a scope of things, I suppose.

753

:

It seems like it'd probably be too

many people for that to work given,

754

:

uh, how quickly it collapses sometimes,

755

:

but I guess it

756

:

Laura: But they're also being oppressed

like by a pretty sinister outside force.

757

:

So you do kind of like come

together a little bit more under

758

:

that sort of pressure maybe.

759

:

Xhafer: and I mean, if you had to

ask me if I thought guys Baltar was a

760

:

despot dictator when he was just elected

president before the cys were around,

761

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

762

:

Yeah.

763

:

Xhafer: so.

764

:

Laura: Yep.

765

:

Yep.

766

:

but the Oracle's not concerned with Gais.

767

:

She is concerned with Deanna knowing that

the fruit of the two peoples is alive.

768

:

Xhafer: Yep.

769

:

Hera is still alive.

770

:

I mean, we knew this, but,

but Zena knows now too.

771

:

Laura: Right.

772

:

And, uh, when she holds her in her arms,

she will know true love, but she will

773

:

also lose everything she's done here,

774

:

Xhafer: Yep.

775

:

Laura: so, huh.

776

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

777

:

Well, I guess we'll see if that pays off.

778

:

Next episode,

779

:

Laura: Right.

780

:

Xhafer: we get a little ceremony

on the deck before the crews split

781

:

up between Galactica and Pegasus.

782

:

Laura: Yeah, this is cute world building.

783

:

Xhafer: You know, they draw a big line in.

784

:

On the deck with salt and then

scrub it out and everyone embraces.

785

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

786

:

Yeah.

787

:

The, the scripture or whatever

they're reading is like that.

788

:

the situation is trying to divide us,

789

:

but the, the people will never be divided.

790

:

They are one.

791

:

And as the, the line of salt

in front of us, we all just

792

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

793

:

Laura: brush it away and we

embrace and hug and know that

794

:

we are never to be parted.

795

:

Xhafer: I appreciate this.

796

:

But also salt is like a terrible

thing to have around a hanger deck.

797

:

Salt does terrible shit to metal,

798

:

Laura: You gotta have the good

shop vac ready to go immediately,

799

:

Xhafer: right?

800

:

Yeah.

801

:

Laura: Yeah.

802

:

Xhafer: Do you think they

had little s Roombas.

803

:

Laura: especially because not only is salt

and metal, not like great, but like, what

804

:

if we are, we are on a spaceship, right?

805

:

What if uh, we lose our gravitational

whatever at some point Now we got a bunch

806

:

of little grainy shit floating around

807

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

808

:

Laura: like, fuck that.

809

:

Yeah.

810

:

No.

811

:

But, uh, we also hear from Hilo and d

you know, Hilo, uh, is ordered to take

812

:

care of the admiral and Helo orders D to

take care of, I think he says our son.

813

:

I thought that was.

814

:

Interesting.

815

:

Just like everyone under Adama's

command considers Lee their son.

816

:

I don't know, maybe I misheard that

our audio was kind of acting funny last

817

:

night, but I wanna think of it that way.

818

:

Xhafer: I didn't clock that, but

also, I wouldn't trust me to clock

819

:

fucking anything right now, so

820

:

Laura: Yeah,

821

:

Xhafer: I.

822

:

Laura: but we hear from Lee and Adama also

in the hangar deck, that basically Adama's

823

:

gonna go in and do this thing and he has,

he has 18 hours to get everybody out and

824

:

go meet Lee and the Pegasus and the rest

of the fleet at the rendezvous point.

825

:

and if not, Lee has been given orders

to go find Earth after 18 hours.

826

:

Like don't wait any longer for us.

827

:

It will be too dangerous.

828

:

and Lee tries to like have

the I love you dad moment,

829

:

but, uh, adama's, like, don't

make me cry on my own spaceship.

830

:

Uh,

831

:

Xhafer: It's where you live.

832

:

It's your house.

833

:

You are homing

834

:

from

835

:

Laura: also, it's also work.

836

:

Yeah.

837

:

Don't make me cry at my housework.

838

:

but they still have a

really touching moment.

839

:

Like every time Bear McCreary

hits those bagpipes with Lee

840

:

and Ava, I get misty-eyed.

841

:

I'm very

842

:

Xhafer: It's

843

:

Laura: emotional.

844

:

So Good.

845

:

will they make 18 hours?

846

:

Will they make it?

847

:

Xhafer: I don't know.

848

:

We'll find out next episode.

849

:

But for now, uh, we cut

back to new Capric Co.

850

:

Where Coddle is performing surgery.

851

:

He steps out for a smoke.

852

:

That's nice.

853

:

I'm guessing the silences made

him do that instead of just

854

:

smoking in the surgery tent

855

:

Laura: Yeah, just smoking.

856

:

Like while he's got the open

patient in front of him, you know,

857

:

who needs to worry about ashes?

858

:

Xhafer: like that.

859

:

We know that they have a

society of not cured cancer.

860

:

Right.

861

:

Laura: Uhhuh?

862

:

Yep.

863

:

Xhafer: If they had cured cancer and

that was a plot point, and that's why he

864

:

just smoked wherever he fucking wanted.

865

:

I would feel very differently about it.

866

:

Laura: Yeah.

867

:

Yeah, that's, that'd be

pretty funny actually.

868

:

Xhafer: it's like, you go get cancer, go

get the shot, whatever, you're fine space.

869

:

But no, that's not how it goes.

870

:

Laura: Yeah.

871

:

Yeah.

872

:

But it must have been a long fucking day.

873

:

'cause we're still in surgery.

874

:

It is nighttime.

875

:

doc Coddle is going out for

his smoke and sees Deanna and

876

:

she's playing with the dog,

877

:

Xhafer: yeah.

878

:

Laura: the dog.

879

:

Xhafer: dog, she knows the dog's name.

880

:

Laura: Yeah, she says

he's a very good boy too.

881

:

Mm-hmm.

882

:

I, I don't know if I'm suspicious or not

now, but Yeah, everybody loves a dog.

883

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

884

:

Yeah.

885

:

Laura: he makes some comment to her

about, oh, you can't sleep, huh?

886

:

You're out here walking the streets.

887

:

And is a little surprised to learn

that the slim lawns do have dreams.

888

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

889

:

Laura: Androids do

dream of electric sheep.

890

:

Xhafer: Ah, the reference,

891

:

Laura: and she's still stuck on

Harris's death and the records or

892

:

whatever they have from Galactica.

893

:

And she's like, why would

you do that, doctor?

894

:

Why would you cremate the body?

895

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

896

:

Laura: it's the first silent human hybrid.

897

:

Wouldn't you wanna.

898

:

Wouldn't you wanna poke around at that?

899

:

Xhafer: He's like, uh, 'cause

fucking Rosalyn told me to fuck off

900

:

Laura: yeah.

901

:

Yeah.

902

:

Xhafer: Above my pay grade is the best

answer that Coddle could possibly give.

903

:

Laura: I love all his non-answers

related to her too, because like

904

:

when he was talking to Sharon, he

was like, gave, I would never kill

905

:

a patient or something as an answer,

which is, uh, technically correct.

906

:

and yeah, the wasn't my call to cremate

the body as technically correct.

907

:

but she's like weird about it.

908

:

And like smears the blood

on his surgical outfit

909

:

and says something about how it's funny

that all the blood looks the same, doesn't

910

:

matter if it's silent or, or human.

911

:

And I think in their conversation,

it seemed like he was operating

912

:

on a silent right now.

913

:

Right?

914

:

Because

915

:

Xhafer: That was kind

of the, the implication.

916

:

Yeah.

917

:

Laura: yeah, a five had gotten injured

in maybe the, maybe the quarry thing was

918

:

what he was talking about or something.

919

:

else.

920

:

and that's, that's like what he's

doing in the middle of the night

921

:

is having to operate on a silo.

922

:

But he's not discriminatory.

923

:

He doesn't refuse to operate on

silos like he's due and no harm,

924

:

as best he knows how.

925

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

926

:

I mean, it's confusing to Deanna

because their philosophy is just

927

:

like letting us feel any pain at all.

928

:

Just kill us.

929

:

Like it's easier,

930

:

but yeah, she doesn't quite get it,

but you know, that's their ways.

931

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

932

:

And, uh, we get to learn a little bit

more about that in the downloading and

933

:

stuff because we cut to Colonial One.

934

:

And this, I don't quite understand.

935

:

Caval is doing his big wine about

the experience at the quarry and

936

:

the downloading experience that

he's not finding pleasant anymore.

937

:

But he's also like, they left

me in the hot sun to die.

938

:

And I was like, everything

that you've told me about this

939

:

planet is that it's like cold.

940

:

Like people are always bundled up.

941

:

Uh, the sky is always gray, like.

942

:

The hot sun Cavel.

943

:

Come on.

944

:

Don't be a whiny bitch.

945

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

946

:

Well, I mean if caval is

nothing else but a whiny bitch.

947

:

Laura: Yeah.

948

:

but Cavel tells us that

like he had to find a spent

949

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

950

:

Laura: use that to like slit

his own throat or something.

951

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

952

:

He says he goes first carotid artery, so.

953

:

Laura: Yeah.

954

:

So that he could go ahead and

die and download and this is

955

:

like his third one or something.

956

:

And it's getting worse each time.

957

:

He doesn't like it.

958

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

959

:

Laura: Hmm.

960

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

961

:

Laura: That seems like

it could be a problem.

962

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

963

:

I wonder if that will

be a plot point later.

964

:

Laura: Adjust glasses.

965

:

Gaas is like trying to, I, I guess,

lean into their discomfort and be like,

966

:

yeah, it fucking sucks here, doesn't it?

967

:

Maybe you guys should fucking leave.

968

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

969

:

and it's like janna's, like, sure.

970

:

We'll just leave and

nuke the city from orbit.

971

:

Laura: yeah.

972

:

Dole's like, well, we just

need to crack down harder.

973

:

And six is like, with what?

974

:

So we find out that yes, this group of

silences who is here, whether it's all

975

:

the cys or not, it's, well, it's obviously

not all of the sirens, but we don't know

976

:

how many else exist in the universe.

977

:

they're pretty stretched,

stretched, pretty thin.

978

:

Can't, uh, can't do any more

than we're already doing.

979

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

980

:

Laura: So, nuke it.

981

:

Xhafer: just fucking nuke

982

:

Andrew and Sharon, the details

of the civilian evacuation

983

:

and their parts to play in it.

984

:

Anders is getting the pilots in

place while Sharon gets the car

985

:

keys from that drawer by your

desk where you keep the spare.

986

:

You know the one Anders asked

her to look out for Starbuck as

987

:

well, just 'cause she's been gone

for months on months on months.

988

:

Laura: Yeah.

989

:

He, he's hoping that they can

get her out of this compound.

990

:

and he's a real multitasker because

as he's doing all these, like, escape

991

:

plans, he's also having Ellen seized.

992

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

993

:

Laura: We cut to Rosalyn, telling

Anders to keep Maya and her hidden.

994

:

I wonder, this seems like a flashback

to me, like this happened maybe at

995

:

the beginning of the occupation.

996

:

Xhafer: well, it's specifically their part

in the, uh, escorting them off the planet.

997

:

Laura: Because I thought he was

saying, don't worry, we're gonna

998

:

move her every couple of weeks.

999

:

Like, we're gonna, keep this really

tight to the chest for you, but kind

:

00:46:00,335 --> 00:46:04,745

of would like to know why I, I thought

that, I thought this was a flashback

:

00:46:04,745 --> 00:46:09,275

and, and they had kept her, her

hidden for a while, but maybe not.

:

00:46:09,275 --> 00:46:10,295

Maybe it's just

:

00:46:10,415 --> 00:46:13,925

Xhafer: I didn't read it like

that, but once again, I am

:

00:46:13,925 --> 00:46:16,565

impaired at the moment, so,

:

00:46:17,290 --> 00:46:21,665

Laura: either way it makes sense, like

logically that she would take this,

:

00:46:21,665 --> 00:46:27,125

but I, I think it makes the most sense

if she hid her at the very start,

:

00:46:27,260 --> 00:46:29,045

Xhafer: well, yeah, that would make sense.

:

00:46:29,730 --> 00:46:31,890

Laura: but yeah, Rosalyn thinks that.

:

00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,800

Herrick could be the

shape of things to come.

:

00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,930

Whether that's good or bad, I don't know.

:

00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,990

'cause she's only like a

year and a half old, but

:

00:46:40,020 --> 00:46:40,500

Xhafer: yeah.

:

00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:42,990

Anders kind of looks, I think

Anders figures it out here.

:

00:46:43,522 --> 00:46:43,882

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:46:43,882 --> 00:46:44,722

You think he knows?

:

00:46:44,872 --> 00:46:45,262

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:46:45,262 --> 00:46:46,582

I think he's not the Jimbo.

:

00:46:46,582 --> 00:46:47,452

We think he is.

:

00:46:48,112 --> 00:46:53,212

I think this is, this is signs

of intelligence, uh, but if not

:

00:46:53,212 --> 00:46:56,302

Himba, why Himba shaped, uh.

:

00:46:57,457 --> 00:46:59,362

Laura: Right, right.

:

00:46:59,782 --> 00:47:03,502

No, I guess if we have to like

scale all the men of Galactica,

:

00:47:04,072 --> 00:47:06,382

like Hilo is top Jimbo, right?

:

00:47:07,027 --> 00:47:08,287

Xhafer: Oh yeah, he, yeah.

:

00:47:08,587 --> 00:47:10,927

Hilo is top of MBO Mountain for sure.

:

00:47:11,272 --> 00:47:11,602

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:11,602 --> 00:47:11,932

Yeah.

:

00:47:12,652 --> 00:47:15,262

And Andrews is like a little further down.

:

00:47:15,262 --> 00:47:16,312

Like he's still got

:

00:47:17,242 --> 00:47:18,742

brain cells kicking around and,

:

00:47:19,387 --> 00:47:21,637

Xhafer: You know, he is

not at the summit, so

:

00:47:22,102 --> 00:47:22,492

Laura: right,

:

00:47:22,807 --> 00:47:24,037

Xhafer: he is on the mountain though.

:

00:47:24,832 --> 00:47:27,052

Laura: He's gaining a lot

of freaking competence.

:

00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:32,332

He is not just a pyramid player, but

maybe having been like professional,

:

00:47:32,872 --> 00:47:37,222

big time pyramid player is, is

extremely useful to him right now.

:

00:47:37,222 --> 00:47:41,632

Like there's a lot of strategy

he's able to put together faster

:

00:47:41,827 --> 00:47:46,057

Xhafer: it's like, I mean, if you

like list the skillset, right?

:

00:47:46,147 --> 00:47:49,957

Like, uh, it's a team sport

most of the time it looks like.

:

00:47:50,437 --> 00:47:54,062

Uh, so you know, you've gotta have

that, lots of intense training.

:

00:47:54,587 --> 00:47:57,737

You know, you've gotta be able to

not just physically, but mentally

:

00:47:57,737 --> 00:47:59,987

conditioned for doing that to your body.

:

00:48:00,977 --> 00:48:05,537

Um, you probably watch lots of tape

as when the apex of a sport you're

:

00:48:05,537 --> 00:48:08,747

watching your opponents, you know,

you're studying their maneuvers and

:

00:48:08,747 --> 00:48:12,077

learning how to counter them and

stuff at the top levels of the sport.

:

00:48:12,677 --> 00:48:16,847

All of these things, you know,

that exactly that detail oriented,

:

00:48:17,267 --> 00:48:20,237

especially in like movements and

stuff, thinking about movements and

:

00:48:20,237 --> 00:48:25,247

counter movements, all of these things

would lead me to believe that the

:

00:48:25,247 --> 00:48:30,707

skillset, maybe not transitionable

to for everyone, to resistance

:

00:48:30,737 --> 00:48:33,167

fighter, but it clearly has for him,

:

00:48:33,782 --> 00:48:34,142

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:48:34,557 --> 00:48:39,267

we have a brief moment of Deanna not

being able to stop looking at babies

:

00:48:39,297 --> 00:48:43,647

like every baby she sees is suspect.

:

00:48:43,692 --> 00:48:45,372

Xhafer: all babies, everywhere.

:

00:48:45,872 --> 00:48:48,962

Laura: and Tyrell and Rosalyn

meet with the resistance

:

00:48:49,322 --> 00:48:51,872

to form everything up.

:

00:48:52,082 --> 00:48:54,182

Daddy Adama's gonna be here any minute.

:

00:48:54,182 --> 00:48:55,232

We gotta get ready.

:

00:48:55,997 --> 00:49:00,017

Xhafer: They've had rehearsals

disguised as natural disaster drills.

:

00:49:00,482 --> 00:49:02,192

Laura: That's very smart.

:

00:49:02,222 --> 00:49:02,552

Go

:

00:49:03,017 --> 00:49:04,187

Xhafer: so good.

:

00:49:04,472 --> 00:49:08,957

When they, when she said that, it's like,

I'm, because that comment from the, the,

:

00:49:08,957 --> 00:49:11,507

uh, the pilot was just like, oh, yeah.

:

00:49:11,507 --> 00:49:14,237

Well, it's not like you got to,

you know, chance to rehearse.

:

00:49:14,237 --> 00:49:14,447

Right.

:

00:49:14,447 --> 00:49:15,977

And she's all like three times.

:

00:49:16,577 --> 00:49:16,867

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:49:18,152 --> 00:49:24,182

No, we've, you know, that the second

everything went down, Saul went to

:

00:49:24,182 --> 00:49:27,932

Rosalyn and was like, okay, here's

what Adam and I sketched out.

:

00:49:28,382 --> 00:49:32,522

And then she's like, okay, here's

what I can add, you know, and they,

:

00:49:32,582 --> 00:49:34,052

they put together these drills.

:

00:49:34,052 --> 00:49:35,102

It's very smart.

:

00:49:35,342 --> 00:49:36,122

I love it.

:

00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:40,339

Sam's gonna give her a couple

escorts for Maya and her.

:

00:49:40,752 --> 00:49:41,172

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:42,032 --> 00:49:48,362

Laura: but the guy who seized Ellen

interrupts and demands to talk to Saul.

:

00:49:48,962 --> 00:49:54,182

Xhafer: Yeah, we see Sharon walking

around as, uh, Ellen confesses to

:

00:49:54,182 --> 00:49:56,642

Saul when presented with the truth.

:

00:49:57,602 --> 00:50:02,595

Uh, Sharon does get the set of car

keys, but Deanna is there, instantly

:

00:50:02,595 --> 00:50:05,115

recognizing who she actually is.

:

00:50:05,535 --> 00:50:06,075

Laura: Oh yeah.

:

00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,895

There's no like hesitation

:

00:50:09,015 --> 00:50:10,665

Xhafer: It's like, holy shit, it's you.

:

00:50:11,415 --> 00:50:11,865

Laura: uhhuh.

:

00:50:11,865 --> 00:50:13,815

Xhafer: What the fuck are you doing here?

:

00:50:14,175 --> 00:50:15,435

This is a problem.

:

00:50:15,975 --> 00:50:16,725

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:50:16,815 --> 00:50:22,065

That's so interesting because I

guess the centurions, the battle

:

00:50:22,065 --> 00:50:24,855

bots don't know any different, right.

:

00:50:25,695 --> 00:50:28,659

That's how she's able to like,

get in where she's going.

:

00:50:28,659 --> 00:50:32,559

And even like she does some kind

of a scan thing, like we scan

:

00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,299

her hand or her face or something

:

00:50:35,169 --> 00:50:36,369

as she's coming in.

:

00:50:36,869 --> 00:50:41,879

but you run into another humanoid

silent and they immediately clock you.

:

00:50:42,284 --> 00:50:42,974

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:44,399

Laura: Hmm.

:

00:50:44,993 --> 00:50:49,913

and I was very, very nervous

as she started to tell

:

00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:52,673

Sharon about her being alive.

:

00:50:53,193 --> 00:50:53,413

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:50:53,845 --> 00:50:59,695

Laura: that is interesting

that she doesn't fall for it.

:

00:50:59,965 --> 00:51:02,425

But also it was the truth.

:

00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,630

Xhafer: She does not believe that

Adama would've lie to her about this.

:

00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:09,670

And it is important to note.

:

00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,890

Adama doesn't know.

:

00:51:12,835 --> 00:51:13,165

Laura: Okay.

:

00:51:13,165 --> 00:51:13,945

I wondered this.

:

00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:16,345

I, I, I actually

specifically asked Erin this.

:

00:51:16,345 --> 00:51:21,424

I was like, logically it does, doesn't

make a whole lot of sense that he wouldn't

:

00:51:21,424 --> 00:51:27,154

know, but also if Rosalyn is playing

everything right, he shouldn't know.

:

00:51:27,364 --> 00:51:30,064

She should not have told anyone else.

:

00:51:30,124 --> 00:51:30,544

Like,

:

00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:32,479

Xhafer: Tory, and Coddle.

:

00:51:33,469 --> 00:51:34,399

the three people.

:

00:51:34,489 --> 00:51:35,929

That's the only people that know.

:

00:51:36,784 --> 00:51:37,084

Laura: right?

:

00:51:37,549 --> 00:51:40,099

Xhafer: So like that,

that's how it all plays out.

:

00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:41,689

Adam isn't there for the decision.

:

00:51:41,689 --> 00:51:43,579

Adam, isn't there when anything goes down?

:

00:51:43,924 --> 00:51:44,164

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:51:44,194 --> 00:51:50,644

We, we never saw him know this, and

so I'm thinking he doesn't know this,

:

00:51:50,904 --> 00:51:51,194

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:51:51,904 --> 00:51:52,264

Laura: but

:

00:51:52,564 --> 00:51:52,804

if

:

00:51:52,849 --> 00:51:53,509

Xhafer: As far as we

:

00:51:53,554 --> 00:51:58,714

Laura: that's gonna be a big

fucking problem later if he does.

:

00:52:03,424 --> 00:52:03,784

Yeah.

:

00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:07,700

but Sharon is pretty like

steady in this moment.

:

00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:08,690

She's pretty resolute.

:

00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:16,386

She just, uh, kneecap boom boom

to Deanna and believes very firmly

:

00:52:16,386 --> 00:52:18,456

that Adama would not lie about this.

:

00:52:18,855 --> 00:52:27,227

she runs back to, to Tyrell, gives

him the keys, uh, says, oh yeah, by

:

00:52:27,227 --> 00:52:28,847

the way, congrats about your son.

:

00:52:29,466 --> 00:52:34,572

hey, when you spread Harry's ashes,

they were really there, right?

:

00:52:36,647 --> 00:52:36,937

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:52:37,812 --> 00:52:41,322

Laura: So there's a tiny

bit of doubt in her mind.

:

00:52:42,432 --> 00:52:46,692

Like she really doesn't wanna

believe anyone would take

:

00:52:46,692 --> 00:52:48,102

her baby and lie about it.

:

00:52:48,342 --> 00:52:51,909

But Who knows how that's gonna turn out.

:

00:52:51,909 --> 00:52:55,329

I'm not excited about it.

:

00:52:57,919 --> 00:53:03,745

But, uh, we end this episode, we

head to Galactica and Helo says,

:

00:53:03,745 --> 00:53:10,435

Hey, we've got the keys racetrack,

and Kat get the call from Adama

:

00:53:11,395 --> 00:53:12,505

that it's time to head out.

:

00:53:13,945 --> 00:53:18,415

And then he calls the whole ship,

tells them this is their moment,

:

00:53:19,435 --> 00:53:21,655

and we go, condition one to credits.

:

00:53:22,465 --> 00:53:23,095

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:53:24,445 --> 00:53:26,725

That's where we leave off.

:

00:53:27,775 --> 00:53:29,335

Adam gives a great speech here

:

00:53:30,205 --> 00:53:35,035

about like their writing themselves

into legend and they will ga gain

:

00:53:35,095 --> 00:53:37,165

immortality throughout history

:

00:53:37,975 --> 00:53:40,040

and stuff if they pull this off.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I've very much felt things and

the score was, uh, just impeccable

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throughout these two episodes.

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Really, the, the musical background

to all the drama is perfect.

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gosh,

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it's

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hard to, it's hard to just

leave it at the end of part one.

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I'll say that.

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Xhafer: I mean, I texted you and was all

like, Hey, are you only watching part one?

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Laura: Yeah, because that

was my original intention.

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I don't have it just like huge

chunks of time these days.

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And so I was hoping, okay, I'll just, you

know, I'll watch this one real quick and

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then I'll watch the next one the next day.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: And, uh, didn't happen that

way because you get to the end and

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you just need it to be resolved.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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All right.

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Well, uh, how are you

feeling about this one?

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On a scale of one to 12 colonies?

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Laura: Whew.

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I mean, it is a

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action packed episode.

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We're resolving a bunch of tension

from the first two, uh, ramping up more

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tensions for the next one and beyond.

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man, I don't have any faults with

it beyond, like, not sure that

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geography with Cali checks out and

cavel complaining about the hot

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sun on a very cold planet is silly.

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Uh, I just, man, I, it's a 12 for me,

like I'm, I'm ready for the next one.

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Xhafer: Yeah, no, I'm right there.

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Uh, I put this at a 11 outta 12 if

only because it's not the next episode,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: which season three,

episode four, Exodus part two.

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Time must decide the fate of

Ellen Lee struggles with his

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assignment to guard the civilians.

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The resistance coordinates an

attack as Galactica arrives

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as the cylons lose control.

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Number three, vows to put an end

to the new Capric experiment.

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Laura: Yeah.

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All those things happened.

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Xhafer: Yep.

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I cut stuff out as I typically do,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: uh, even though you've

already seen it, but whatever.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Just in case for a listener.

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Sure.

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Xhafer: Yeah, we, I think we

made it through without saying

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anything we shouldn't have.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: but there is

one thing we should say.

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That's of course.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Jeremy Siegel for

your lovely theme music.

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You can find more at Jeremy's work

at Jeremy Siegel 40 two.bandcamp.com,

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where he's the only Jeremy

Siegel 42, and also on streaming

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services, nuclear Jaguar.

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Laura: And thanks to Angry

Duck time machine on Instagram

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for the podcast artwork.

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00:56:16,711 --> 00:56:20,551

Xhafer: Hey Aaron, thanks for editing

out the five minutes of my dog, demanding

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to go outside out of this episode.

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Really appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Laura: Yeah.

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And thanks listener

for being here with us.

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If you want to come and

chat, join the Discord.

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Xhafer: Come hang

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out in the discord.

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00:56:34,011 --> 00:56:38,211

Laura: there's a spoiler free zone if

you're like me and you haven't seen it,

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00:56:38,931 --> 00:56:42,261

or there's also Spoiler Town, which

I hear is a lot of fun without me.

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Xhafer: it is spoiler.

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Sounds great.

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yeah, uh, and, uh,

we'll see you next week.

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Internet.

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Oh, with Bob Shit, by the way,

we've got a guest next week.

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I should

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have said that way

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Laura: yeah.

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Xhafer: that's fine.

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Yeah.

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If you stayed to the very end, then

you get to know that knowledge.

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Congrats.

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Little surprise for you,

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Laura: Yeah, we're

really, uh, hitting the.

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Star Trek, memer Industrial

Complex guest list.

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00:57:09,673 --> 00:57:10,123

Xhafer: Yeah.

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00:57:10,128 --> 00:57:13,227

And Doen and Dorian Memeing consortium,

if you're listening, reach out.

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00:57:13,227 --> 00:57:14,367

We'd love to have you on.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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Xhafer: All right.

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We'll see you next week.

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Internet.

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Laura: Bye.

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.