Episode 166

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Published on:

26th Mar 2025

BSG S1E13 - Daddy's Pride Bosom (Featuring Beth from Cool Girls Don't Look at Explosions)

Beth from Cool Girls Don't Look at Explosions podcast joins to discuss this very extra season finale. Beth notices the fabric choices. Laura wonders why Cylon ships are so meaty. Xhafer is ready for a Mountain Goats BSG album. It's an episode so extra it has two Christ poses! It’s Battlestar Galactica Season 1, Episode 13: Kobol’s Last Gleaming Part 2.

Who Are You? will return with BSG season 2 on April 16th!

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Transcript
Xhafer:

Hello, and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is the reasonably well done

sci fi watchcast hosted by two

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former strangers now friends who

are currently working their way

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through 2004's Battlestar Galactica.

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I'm Ja'far.

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Laura: And I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: And today we're joined by

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Beth: It's me, it's Beth.

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Hi.

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Laura: Hello, Beth.

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I don't think you've been on

this podcast before, have you?

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Beth: I haven't.

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I have not been on this podcast before.

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This is my first time.

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Laura: but it doesn't feel like

it because I talk to you all

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the time on our other podcasts.

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Beth: Same.

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Exactly.

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And you know, Ja'far, I

occasionally also talk to.

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Xhafer: once in a while

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Beth: Sometimes, yeah.

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Laura: What is our other podcast?

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Do you want to talk about it?

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Beth: Oh, yes.

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So we have another podcast.

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It's me and Laura and Glow, who

has also been on this year's

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podcast that we're on now.

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Our podcast is called Cool Girls

Don't Look at Explosions, where we

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watch dude TV, but quickly because we

also have to watch all of Battlestar.

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Laura: Yeah, we do.

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Beth: So we got

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Laura: Yeah, I just assume that

you and Glow are both watching

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Battlestar with us, yeah?

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Beth: Yeah.

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Well, I'd seen it.

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I saw it back when I was like in middle

school, because that's when it came out.

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And my parents were watching it.

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And, you know, it was great,

but I don't remember it.

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So it's like I'm watching it with

you again for the first time.

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Laura: great.

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I love that for us.

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Yeah,

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Xhafer: The age gap is just enough where

Battlestar Galactica replaces Babylon 5.

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Laura: so, Beth, what was your logic

for choosing this episode to be on?

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Beth: so this one.

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is the most extra episode, and

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I like to make a splash, a big entrance.

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And I thought the one with the cool

ass arrow, and the baby reveal,

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and the mutiny was the right one,

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Laura: I think it's a good choice.

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I can't wait to talk about it.

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Xhafer: There's a lot going on.

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Beth: Yeah!

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It, it too is a chaotic gremlin,

much like I am a chaotic gremlin,

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so this episode, one could say,

is the most relatable episode for

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me.

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Xhafer: Alright, we ready to get into

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this episode?

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Laura: I sure am.

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Xhafer: You ready to talk

about this fucking episode?

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It's Battlestar Galactica Season 1

Finale, Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2.

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We open on Crashdown's crash site.

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Evacuating the survivors from the rafter.

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The Chief, Callie, everyone's out but

Gaius, who is caught behind a fire.

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6PT kind of replaces

Crashdown to get him out.

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Laura: Uh huh.

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Xhafer: raptor explodes and Gaius is

simultaneously an accidental renaissance

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painting and also a photo of me when I

get home from the office on Fridays as

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he just collapses into a heap of tall

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grass.

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Laura: There is so much

Christ ing in this episode.

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Beth: Oh, my God.

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Yes.

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We owe that last

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shot.

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We're going to talk about it

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Laura: We're gonna open on a Christ, and

we're gonna go out on a Christ, everybody.

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Beth: but also nobody panic

because Darth Maul did survive.

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He's doing well.

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Darth Maul has some tasteful cuts face

framing cuts all over his beautiful face.

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He's good.

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Xhafer: Made it.

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Beth: He made it.

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Xhafer: I don't know about you, Laura.

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Beth and I are watching

the Blu ray release

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at the moment.

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But the theme song has finally changed.

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Did it?

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change for you?

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Laura: I didn't notice.

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Xhafer: Okay, so the theme song

we've had for the last 12 episodes

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has been kind of like tribal

drumming like, like with some coral.

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And this one is similar instrumentation,

but a completely different song.

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And this is like the iconic

Battlestar Galactica theme.

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When I think of the Battlestar Galactica

theme, this is the song I think about.

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I forgot it had another theme because this

had just replaced it in my brain meats.

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I personally very excited.

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Laura: Huh.

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Man.

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I guess I'm going to have to go back

and watch my, like, compare the two

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themes from part one and part two,

because I didn't notice anything.

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Beth: This one has a lot

of like, you know, in it

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Laura: Yeah.

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Beth: guttural.

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Laura: it could be.

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We're also watching just, like, a

Purchased iTunes version, I think.

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So hopefully it's not that

they did something horrible to

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I mean, it could just be the, the,

what we happen to be watching.

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They changed it for this episode.

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It's weird to change it before

the season break, I would

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think, but you know, whatever.

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I'm not, I'm not making TV.

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I,

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Beth: fan of it.

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It's

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't think Steve Jobs really

wants, people talking about

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the sentient machines too much.

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That would I

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Beth: like, I feel like we all as a people

now know better than to give the robots

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we make do things for us super strength.

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Maybe we don't do that anymore.

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Xhafer: I really want a lot of people.

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in my industry in particular

to watch this show again.

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Laura: Right?

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Xhafer: important for them to

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do so.

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Laura: Oh guys, the other day, my

statistics professor, you know, you're

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in statistics, eventually like machine

learning is going to come up, right?

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So he's just kind of talking and

he's, he's a math guy, right?

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So he's not the most

structured person in the world.

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Like sometimes he's just a free form

flow of stream of consciousness guy.

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And he starts talking about how

people aren't really thinking.

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About how, if, you know, machines replace

too many jobs, what's going to happen?

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And I'm sitting there like, I

just really want to, like, I think

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people have thought about that if

you read enough science fiction.

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And I believe that he does, but he's,

he's thinking of, you know, like the

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Xhafer: people who should be making the

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decisions.

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Yeah,

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Laura: yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Xhafer: every post I see on LinkedIn

that talks about AI coming in

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and doesn't talk about UBI in the

same breath is a fucking travesty.

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Laura: yeah, yeah.

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And you know, I've been off of

the social media a little bit too.

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I've popped into Facebook here and

again every now and again just to check

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on my friends that I love and I'll be

scrolling through the feed and there's

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like AI videos again that people are

sharing and they cannot tell that it's ai.

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And I'm like, oh,

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Xhafer: Yeah, AI literacy, digital

literacy is So important that

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you don't get trapped by Cylons.

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Speaking of getting trapped by Cylons,

after theme, we go to Caprica Yellow.

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It's day 51, where Sharon has brought Hilo

to the Delphi museum because he wants way

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off of Caprica and she says, well, yes,

this is where the arrow of Apollo is.

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At this moment, I had to pause.

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And just appreciate, air quotes, the plan.

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So at the start of every episode, the

Cylon's like, Oh, you know, they're doing

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the

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thing and they have a plan,

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Laura: you have a plan?

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Xhafer: Right, it's the thing

that they say constantly.

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right now, the Cylons

clearly know about the fleet.

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The fleet is at Kobol, or

knows the location of Kobol.

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To the point where Sharon knows

someone would be coming for the arrow.

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She must have known that.

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A month ago, when she started

to drag Hilo's ass up there.

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That they were going in the right ish

direction, or that they would find Kobol.

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To get him there in time.

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It also explains why they didn't nuke

the shit out of this giant military

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installation that's right next to it.

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Right?

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Laura: yeah.

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Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: Cause they talk about

how Delphi is like this giant

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military installation city.

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Right?

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It's Fort whatever, it's all military.

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And why wouldn't you

nuke that immediately?

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Well, because that's where the arrow is.

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So, this has been known

quantity for at least a month.

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It stands to reason that

everything that we see in this

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episode is part of the plan.

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I don't want to say too much

more without, because I don't

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want to say anything I shouldn't.

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I'm wondering how much of this is

me constructing it in my brain.

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And seeing all the pieces of line, all

the math is floating around my head,

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and how much of it is, like, known

to you as a first time viewer, Laura?

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Laura: hmm.

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I guess I hadn't really thought about.

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Where they were going and that

Sharon would have a night.

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Hmm.

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So,

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With the Cylons winding up at Kobol,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: didn't really think they

wanted anything out of Kobol.

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I thought they just were like, ah,

fleet here, time to deal with them.

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And, If they also want the arrow and

to take it to the place and do the

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thing, What do they want from Earth?

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They, they want to go to Earth too?

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Xhafer: if, they wanted to do

that, it stands to reason they know

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where the arrow is, they know where

Cobol is, they would have done it.

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Laura: Right.

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Beth: I think they were just, like,

trying to prevent the hoomans from

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taking the arrow and doing the thing.

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That's how I interpreted it.

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Laura: Yeah, Sharon could

just be going there to

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like, take the arrow.

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Beth: yeah.

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And deliver it,

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or something.

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Laura: or, I mean, she could be

genuine about how she feels about Hilo.

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And we're just trying to get Hilo

somewhere we, she, okay, she doesn't

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have to know that Well, I was gonna say,

she doesn't have to know that they're

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coming, trying to go to, look at Ja'far,

he's doing a little dance in his seat.

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But she knows, like, we're not nuking

Delphi because this arrow is there.

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But she could, she could just not

give a shit about the arrow, but

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then why don't the Cylons just nuke

the arrow if they don't give a shit?

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Beth: cause maybe it was

like a whole prophecy thing.

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And then

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like,

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Laura: The Cylons know prophecy.

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Beth: they do,

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Laura: I mean, bin was just

quoting chapter and verse at us.

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Beth: yeah.

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Spitting those verses,

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Laura: yeah.

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Beth: but like, I

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don't know.

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Maybe this all had to happen.

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Xhafer: Have they said what the

purpose of the Yeah, we know

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what the purpose of the arrow is.

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The purpose of the arrow is to find Earth.

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Right?

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Beth: You do the thing and then you

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Laura: You take it to Athena's

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whatever or something, and

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Beth: Athena's underground cavern.

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that sounds like a porn.

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I'm so sorry.

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Xhafer: A month ago, Leoben told

Starbuck she was gonna retrieve

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the arrow and point to Earth.

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He said those things to her.

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It's like, you're gonna, you're gonna

point the way, you're gonna get the,

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you're gonna use the arrow, you're

gonna, you're gonna find Earth.

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He said those things.

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I don't think he specified what arrow,

and it was kind of more ambiguous then.

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Clearly, part of the

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plan.

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Laura: yeah.

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Is this a forced evolution

thing, like the shadows like.

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The Cylons have this plan to

make humanity do what they want,

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which presumably is

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Xhafer: it is revealed exactly

what is happening here.

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I don't know if they come out and

say it exactly, like, this is why you

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had to do this, this is why this was

the plan, um, but the goal is kind

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of found out at a certain point and

why the goal is important is kind

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of found out at a certain point.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: So I don't want to, like,

play my cards, I don't want to ruin

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shit, because, I mean, I would have to

start talking about, like, season four

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stuff here.

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Laura: Oh

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Xhafer: Um, so we're not

gonna, we're not gonna do that.

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If it was a couple episodes or

something, I'd just say so, but, I

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just was curious because like going

back and rewatching this show and I,

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I talked about this in spoiler town

in our discord, get in the discord.

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and if you want to talk

spoilies over there, you can.

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You just have to ask to join

the spoiler channel because it

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is hidden explicitly from Laura

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Laura: From.

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Me.

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Xhafer: and anyone else

who doesn't want to see it.

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Um, but I had to change discord

admin rules and stuff so

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that Laura couldn't see it.

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Um, we're talking about it over there.

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Um, became really apparent

to me how well written.

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Like, I mean, obviously

this show's well written.

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Like, and when we see stuff like

Baltar having two conversations at

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the same time, it's like, oh yeah,

this show's really well written.

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But this kind of plotting, this kind

of, like, even if it wasn't all 100

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percent figured out, which we know it

wasn't at this point, Like, just knowing

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what happens, and either being a good

enough storyteller to plant enough seeds

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to harvest later, or being good enough

at connecting dots to make things that

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were not important, important later.

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I just really fucking am

appreciating the shit out of it

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in this moment, in this episode.

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Beth: So, I'm realizing

something as you're talking.

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Two things.

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One is unrelated, and that is that Ellen

is kind of like early:

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Big tall vampire lady from Resident Evil.

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Like, I feel like there's the same

kind of energy like, happening.

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Like, yeah, but two, Y'all, I don't

think I watched up to season four.

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Of this

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show.

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Laura: So you're going to

be watching first time with

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Beth: Yeah.

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Cause like, high school hit, and

then it was like, AP classes,

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getting ready for our auditions,

like doing all this stuff, so

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I didn't have time for TV.

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Laura: Yep.

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That's totally why I

never finished Voyager.

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Well, I have finished it

now, but like, when it was

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Beth: But like, when it was on,

exactly, yeah, no I get that.

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Yeah.

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Laura: no, it was actually

shockingly recent that I

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finished, finished Voyager, so.

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Beth: Ooh!

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Laura: Yeah.

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It was really, guys, when it came down

to it, when I did the rewatch, it was

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really only, like, maybe the last half

of season seven that I hadn't seen.

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Maybe not even half.

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Maybe it was even a quarter.

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It was very little.

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I was like, why did I not do this earlier?

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Xhafer: I could have known that

they got rid of Neelix forever ago.

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Laura: it's like the third

to last episode or something.

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But yeah, I had never seen it.

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It was weird.

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All We, uh, we made it to Delphi and on

Galactica, Adama and Ty are discussing

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Starbuck and they call it Rosalyn.

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And, uh, she admits to her coercion.

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I don't know if it's coercion.

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She didn't lie to her, but strategic of

the truth is also a form of coercion.

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and she says her obligation to the

fleet outweighs her respect for

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the military, and Adama goes nuts.

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Xhafer: Yeah, he threatens

to terminate her presidency.

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The whole deal and just like we're

sending people over and she's all like,

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oh, well, you know, that's great news

for the, you know, the whole fleet

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because the whole press corps is here

listening to this conversation right now.

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He's just like motherfucker

and slams the phone down.

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He's

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so mad.

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Beth: there are not a whole lot of people

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left, right?

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Laura: 47 something

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thousand.

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Beth: yeah, it's on the board.

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like, I don't know, does the

press matter that much when, well?

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I guess they'd matter more,

because there are fewer

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people.

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I don't really know how

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that would work.

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Laura: This is hard to

make jokey jokes about.

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Beth: I know.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: For reasons.

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Beth: She said, Oh, you're doing a coup

and I got clammy and my chest got tight.

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I

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did

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Laura: Yeah.

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Suddenly I saw people with tiki

torches on the capitol steps or

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Beth: Yeah, dude with bison horns.

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I don't know.

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Laura: Uh

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Xhafer: So he hangs up.

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And Adama is just like, the first thing

he says is if she can turn Starbuck

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against us, she can do anything.

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And I'm just all like, bro, you

are the one who fucked that up.

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You are the one who lied to her.

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You are the one who could have just been

up front and been honest and been all

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like, no, we don't know where Earth is.

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And she would have been

real back with you.

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She's been so, so the president's

asking me to do this thing.

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I kind of want to fucking do it like,

and maybe she even convinces him.

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You know,

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Beth: And like, high key though, like,

out of the two of them, Adama should

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have known better, because Rosalind

doesn't know Starbuck that well.

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Like, Adama has known Starbuck for longer,

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and in all

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sorts of

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Laura: She's his daughter.

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I mean, practically.

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Beth: Yeah, exactly.

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So you're gonna know how somebody

you know that well is going to

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take you lying to them like that.

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Laura: Yup.

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Beth: And, like, he did it anyway,

so, like, this whole thing is on him.

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Like, better, bro.

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Laura: Yeah, I, did alignments

in the last episode.

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We haven't got to hear that yet, but I had

pegged Adama as just like a true neutral.

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And as this episode is like going on,

I'm like, Oh no, I don't know anymore.

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Oh, did I mess that up real bad?

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Uh

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Xhafer: I'm just like uh, I don't

know when we were doing that.

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It's all like, I don't

know what I can fucking

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say.

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Laura: Well, this certainly doesn't seem

super lawful, so I feel good about that.

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Yeah,

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Beth: ultimately, he's chaotic good

because, like, I believe that he believes

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that what he was doing was right.

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And he still belie and he believes that

getting rid of the president is the

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correct thing to do for the people.

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That feels chaotic good to me, but,

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Laura: don't know.

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We talked ourselves into it, I

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Xhafer: he took, the only thing that

hypothetically would have been able to

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nuke that base star and get away with it.

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Which is, when you're talking

about that, you're not talking even

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necessarily about nuking that base star.

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This is something that you're probably

going to have to do a number of times.

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And to throw it away, like, it is the most

important military asset that they have.

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That raider is arguably more important

than any other ship outside of the

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fuel refiner and Galactica itself.

407

:

So,

408

:

Laura: so he's gonna strike Colonial One.

409

:

Xhafer: Yeah, he decides

that uh, this has gotta go.

410

:

So while Lee and Ty start planning things,

Adama goes to ask Boomer to go on a

411

:

suicide mission to nuke the base star.

412

:

Laura: Why would she take that, you think?

413

:

Xhafer: Wow.

414

:

He knows what he's doing here.

415

:

Laura: Yeah, I guess he doesn't even have

to know about the Cylon thing, does he?

416

:

To get what he wants out of this.

417

:

Xhafer: I mean, he doesn't.

418

:

Beth: You

419

:

Xhafer: has successfully jumped to Kobol.

420

:

Transponder works as hoped.

421

:

She approaches the planet.

422

:

As Sharon tells Helo, she

has real feelings for him.

423

:

She has real feelings in general.

424

:

He is unwavering in his fuck off toaster.

425

:

And that's when she tells him She's

426

:

pregnant.

427

:

Laura: The P Bomb.

428

:

Oh my god.

429

:

Uh, So, hmm, okay.

430

:

Xhafer: called this a couple episodes

431

:

ago.

432

:

Laura: Yes.

433

:

Yeah.

434

:

I picked up on the very subtle, like,

I'm throwing up all the time signals.

435

:

Yeah, the quotation marks are key there.

436

:

Uh, Now I'm doing mental math in my head.

437

:

It's been 51 days.

438

:

Xhafer: Yep.

439

:

Laura: How many weeks is that?

440

:

Xhafer: I would say it's been

maybe a month since they fucked.

441

:

I feel like that was like

442

:

Laura: You don't stop

throwing up that early.

443

:

Well, I guess if you're

a Cylon, it's whatever,

444

:

Xhafer: I mean, yeah, she can also run for

445

:

days, so, you know.

446

:

Laura: Okay.

447

:

All right.

448

:

I don't, I know nothing

about their physiology.

449

:

I will allow this to slide.

450

:

Beth: yeah, I don't really get how

that works cuz aren't they robot?

451

:

Is it a robot?

452

:

Baby?

453

:

Laura: I mean, they're meat robots, so

454

:

Beth: Haaaaa.

455

:

Laura: This is why I'm, I'm, like, barking

up the forced evolution tree, right?

456

:

Because it seems like the Cylons want

to do this, because it seemed like Six

457

:

and Doryl were really pushing Sharon

to get pregnant and have babies with

458

:

Hilo.

459

:

And so I'm like, are you trying to evolve

the human race and use them to expand

460

:

your genetic material so you have more

than just 12 models of Cylon or something?

461

:

I don't know!

462

:

Xhafer: I mean, 6PT calls

it the next phase of life, I

463

:

think,

464

:

Laura: Yeah.

465

:

Beth: Yeah.

466

:

Xhafer: the baby in the opera

house later in the episode, so.

467

:

Beth: So Baby in the Opera

House is very, is a very good

468

:

name for Mountain Goat's album.

469

:

So if the Mountain Goat's, if John

Darnielle listens to this podcast,

470

:

first of all, oh my God, you've made it.

471

:

And second of all, there

you go, there's your

472

:

album

473

:

title.

474

:

Laura: Freebie.

475

:

Xhafer: would love the shit

out of a Mountain Goat's

476

:

Battlestar Galactica album.

477

:

There's that guy on TikTok who does

songs and, like, that aren't Mountain

478

:

Goat songs in the style of the

Mountain Goat, so he makes Mountain

479

:

Goat songs about random things.

480

:

Please, Battlestar Galactica, guy

on TikTok whose name I don't know.

481

:

Laura: Yeah, hmm.

482

:

This is all very juicy.

483

:

We love a gossip storyline.

484

:

Okay.

485

:

Xhafer: Boomer and Racetrack jump

to Cobalt as Lee and the Strike

486

:

Team approach Colonial One.

487

:

Rosalyn urges her staff to go

hang out with the civvies just in

488

:

case, but Billy leads the refusal.

489

:

They will all stand with their president.

490

:

I am Spartacus.

491

:

Laura: I was so disappointed

in Lee throughout this.

492

:

I was like, why is he

going along with this?

493

:

What the fuck?

494

:

Xhafer: Well, exactly for the reason

why, based off his actions later,

495

:

that's exactly why he's there.

496

:

He

497

:

knows what he's

498

:

Laura: Yeah, Yeah, I, I

was worried for a moment.

499

:

I was like, did we just take

all of our characters and throw

500

:

everything out the window?

501

:

But we didn't.

502

:

So Starbuck arrives at the Delphi Museum.

503

:

She uh, takes her anti radiation

meds, just a quick, uh,

504

:

Xhafer: her right away.

505

:

Laura: you know,

506

:

Xhafer: She begins to search for

the arrow as Boomer and Racetrack

507

:

find out, rather dramatically, that

their transponder works as well.

508

:

Laura: yeah.

509

:

Not even visual, like, identification, I

guess, from the raiders flying all around.

510

:

Or, they know what's up, but they don't

care, cause it's all part of the plan.

511

:

Xhafer: Mm hmm.

512

:

I mean, we didn't see Starbuck

take eyeballs out of that Cylon

513

:

radar, so.

514

:

Laura: Yeah.

515

:

I mean, you would think there would

be something like bouncing some kind

516

:

of waves off of stuff and going,

hmm, that ain't the right shape.

517

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

518

:

One would

519

:

Laura: Whether or not it has

520

:

eyeballs.

521

:

Beth: They're basically

just orcas in space.

522

:

Space orcas.

523

:

Exactly.

524

:

Laura: Orgas are deadly.

525

:

We know that.

526

:

Yeah.

527

:

Beth: And they use echolocation.

528

:

I don't know, maybe Cylons

are into shark liver?

529

:

Maybe there's also that similarity?

530

:

We don't really know.

531

:

Xhafer: I'm just glad we've

got space whales, even if

532

:

they're not how I anticipated.

533

:

Over on Cobol, Crashdown is the ranking

officer, but TRL has real Miles O'Brien

534

:

vibes when he's just all like Can we

stop being stupid and maybe take cover?

535

:

Like, guys, we're being dumb.

536

:

I'm, I'm not the ranking

officer, but I am probably the

537

:

most experienced officer here.

538

:

Laura: I feel kind of bad for

Tyrell because he's clearly

539

:

got his head on his shoulders.

540

:

But Crashdown is in charge for reasons and

I feel like that's going to come up later.

541

:

Xhafer: Yes.

542

:

Yeah, Crashdown, he's trying,

but this really isn't, this isn't

543

:

his wheelhouse.

544

:

Laura: Yeah, I mean, even when we've

seen him before, he's been with Boomer

545

:

in their little raptor and she's kind

of been a little bit bossy, I think.

546

:

Like, she was in charge

of him, it seemed like.

547

:

So, eh,

548

:

Xhafer: Speaking of Boomer,

the nuke's release clamp fails.

549

:

So Boomer and Racetrack decide

they're going to dock in the Cylon

550

:

Base Star in hopes of finding a

place to land, manually release the

551

:

nuke, and then get the fuck out.

552

:

Laura: yeah.

553

:

Racetrack is not as comfortable with

this idea as Boomer is for also reasons.

554

:

Boomer's ready.

555

:

Racetrack not so much.

556

:

Beth: I wonder why?

557

:

What?

558

:

Laura: Yes.

559

:

Beth: of poking of the, the meat.

560

:

Laura: Yeah.

561

:

Beth: When they land

there's, there's meat poking.

562

:

That's

563

:

very uncomfortable.

564

:

Laura: Yeah, I was wondering why this

ship needed to be so meaty looking inside.

565

:

And then I kind of had a moment where

I was like, Oh, it's very Babylon

566

:

5 nostalgic because we definitely

had meaty ships in Babylon 5.

567

:

Sticky gooey things with like phlegm.

568

:

Xhafer: I mean, none of

the RoBits are RoBitty.

569

:

Which is, you know, it's

consistent at least.

570

:

Beth: I love this and I'm

not at all viscerally.

571

:

Laura: Well, speaking of things

that don't viscerally freak me

572

:

out, uh, Gaius is hallucinating

6PT again on Cobalt's surface.

573

:

Xhafer: hmm.

574

:

Beth: But she's got a different dress.

575

:

It's very cute, very cute

576

:

paneling happening.

577

:

Just

578

:

Laura: white now, yes,

579

:

Beth: a fashion moment we're experiencing.

580

:

I like the organic with

the inorganic fabric.

581

:

I wonder why that was the costuming

choice for this scene and possibly

582

:

a later review in the episode.

583

:

Laura: Yeah, she asks him in

this scene to save her life, too.

584

:

And he stands and she leads

him towards some ruins.

585

:

And this whole time I'm like, are

they, are they really going or is

586

:

he still like, just hallucinating?

587

:

Beth: And the color grading.

588

:

Right.

589

:

And then there's also the weird color

grading that's happening the entire time.

590

:

Like, it's so distractingly weird.

591

:

It's like the whole planet is

radioactive, which, you know, but

592

:

like,

593

:

Laura: It seems to

594

:

indicate imagination

rather than actual reality

595

:

at this point.

596

:

Yeah, yeah.

597

:

Okay, so on Colonial One, the

President's staff is loading their

598

:

weapons while our priestess is praying.

599

:

Xhafer: Billy and Dee play

telephone for Adama and

600

:

Rosalyn.

601

:

fun, seeing them, like, trying to be

all like I want to say be safe, but

602

:

also, like, my boss is right here.

603

:

Laura: Uh huh.

604

:

And they're like saying the official

things, but then they're going, God,

605

:

this isn't really happening, is it?

606

:

Like, what the fuck?

607

:

Xhafer: Same.

608

:

Done a lot of that the last two months.

609

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah,

610

:

yeah.

611

:

It's very cute and sad and well written.

612

:

So good job, Ronald D.

613

:

Mm

614

:

Xhafer: truly,

615

:

Beth: there were parts that just

felt like sci fi West Wing y,

616

:

almost, and this was one of them.

617

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah, for real.

618

:

Back on Caprica, hey, we have like three

different place settings in this episode.

619

:

That's a new thing.

620

:

It's been either like Galactica,

or a ship, and Caprica, that's it.

621

:

But now we've got two planets.

622

:

So, on Caprica,

623

:

Starbuck has found the arrow.

624

:

And this is obviously too early

in this whole thing for this

625

:

to just go according to plan.

626

:

Yeah.

627

:

Xhafer: Boomer gets out of the ship to

take the payload off the rack and arm it.

628

:

And this is when Bear McCreary

fuckin earns his paycheck.

629

:

The music in this montage

is so fuckin good.

630

:

Beth: You also have a Big

Ol Crush on Bear McCreary.

631

:

Xhafer: He's so

632

:

Laura: I mean, me too!

633

:

I've been listening to the Season

1 Battlestar Galactica soundtrack

634

:

as like, study music, but I've been

very careful not to look at the

635

:

titles of things, just in case.

636

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

637

:

Laura: You know?

638

:

I feel like there could be like, major

spoiler as a title on the soundtrack.

639

:

It could

640

:

Xhafer: Yeah, like, blank reveal

the Cylon is like a track title,

641

:

and you're just like, fuck!

642

:

Beth: This character's DEATH.

643

:

You know, just like,

644

:

Laura: Uh huh.

645

:

Uh huh.

646

:

And I didn't go into the later

seasons out of, also, that same fear.

647

:

Xhafer: Good

648

:

call.

649

:

yeah, so we cut between Six and Starbuck,

Marines moving in on Colonial One.

650

:

They make their way, and

there's a standoff between some

651

:

Marines and Secret Service.

652

:

Rosalind is just staring Lee down.

653

:

This whole

654

:

Laura: yeah.

655

:

Xhafer: And this is when Boomer starts

to wander off to a room of weirdly naked

656

:

Laura: think she wanders off, right?

657

:

She's just like, walking around her ship,

very close by, and they all like, come

658

:

Xhafer: So, Racetrack, like,

watches her walk away for a minute.

659

:

And is like, where are you going?

660

:

Like, she comments on it.

661

:

Laura: Yeah.

662

:

Xhafer: And then, so that's when all the

Sharons show up, and then in a couple

663

:

of scenes, we see Boomer surrounded by

the naked Sharons next to the Raptor.

664

:

And I'm like, where the fuck is

the window Racetrack was just

665

:

looking out

666

:

of?

667

:

Laura: Yeah.

668

:

I feel, I feel like it's like, the

window clearly has blind spots, right?

669

:

And so she walks not that

far, but out of the, the, you

670

:

know, peripheral that you can

671

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

672

:

There's the front window and

673

:

a side window.

674

:

Laura: Yeah, she's just right next to the

ship the whole time and all these naked

675

:

Sharons are just out of racetrack view.

676

:

Hahaha!

677

:

Beth: are they naked?

678

:

It makes no sense.

679

:

It makes no sense for them to be naked.

680

:

What the

681

:

fuck?

682

:

AGHHHHHHHHHHHH

683

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

684

:

Beth: That is a super weird

spot to put the male gaze, like,

685

:

even for the male

686

:

gaze.

687

:

Laura: It's not enough just

to have robots in your show.

688

:

You have to have sexy naked lady robots.

689

:

Yeah, yeah.

690

:

Hahaha!

691

:

Beth: bodies, just swishing

together, doing the sex.

692

:

Xhafer: The writer's room is like,

So, glowing red spines while fucking?

693

:

Yeah!

694

:

So, room of naked Sherins?

695

:

Let's fucking do it!

696

:

Just like, they are like a

90's energy drink ad of energy

697

:

about

698

:

Laura: Yeah,

699

:

Beth: In fact, they all

shotgunned at power thirst before

700

:

writing this scene.

701

:

Laura: Was this one of those

times that they were, like, just,

702

:

doing coke in the writer's room?

703

:

I don't know.

704

:

Oh,

705

:

Beth: Oh, for sure, this

was the early:

706

:

Though honestly, if they really wanted

to, like, male gaze it up, they could've,

707

:

like, made Boomer's spine glow red when

she was looking at all the naked Sharons.

708

:

Just really make everyone uncomfortable.

709

:

Just, just really, yeah.

710

:

Laura: A whole bunch of naked me's.

711

:

Suddenly I'm aroused.

712

:

Beth: Exactly, like, really, just

let the cocaine take the wheel.

713

:

Fuck you, Jesus, cocaine is

taking the wheel this time,

714

:

Xhafer: So, uh, Six

715

:

Laura: Oh, also, they all love her.

716

:

I need to say that.

717

:

Xhafer: Oh yeah, oh yeah,

they're weirdly touching her

718

:

face and stuff.

719

:

Laura: They're like, we love you, Sharon.

720

:

Beth: It was very Furby esque.

721

:

Xhafer: It was, it was so much.

722

:

Laura: I don't even know if that was here.

723

:

I just glanced down at my

notes and they're like, they

724

:

love her and they always will.

725

:

Oh, anyway.

726

:

Okay.

727

:

Jafir, take us back.

728

:

Take us back to the

729

:

Xhafer: Six kicks Starbuck's ass as Hilo

rolls in, but Starbuck turns Six into a

730

:

fall pad just in time for Hilo to see it.

731

:

Over on Caprica 1, Lee has had enough,

says we want to, we aren't doing this.

732

:

Ty insists, so Lee pulls his gun

733

:

on the XO, and that's when Rosalind

surrenders to avoid bloodshed

734

:

and orders everyone to put their

735

:

guns

736

:

Laura: No guns,

737

:

no

738

:

Xhafer: the fuck are they doing?

739

:

This is like a commercial liner.

740

:

You see space from the

window surrounding them.

741

:

This is the worst place to bring

a gun or fire a gun in the fleet.

742

:

It is a tiny metal tube.

743

:

This is so fucking stupid.

744

:

Beth: Because they took

down all the, Stop!

745

:

Warning!

746

:

No gun in tube?

747

:

Besides, it's got a frowny face kitten.

748

:

Next to it.

749

:

It's a cartoon kitten.

750

:

It looks

751

:

really sad.

752

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah.

753

:

But if no guns are allowed in tube, and

I'm the person who brings the gun in

754

:

tube, am I the strongest person in tube?

755

:

Xhafer: got guns!

756

:

We see

757

:

Laura: Why does everyone have guns!

758

:

in tube, Yeah,

759

:

Beth: Yeah, everybody guns in tube.

760

:

Xhafer: There's a litany of guns in this

761

:

tube.

762

:

Laura: yeah, even her people were

loading up their guns in tube, yeah,

763

:

Beth: It's true.

764

:

Hella guns in tube, if you will.

765

:

Xhafer: I mean, Rosalind's like, I

don't want bloodshed, but also like,

766

:

if one of you fires this fucking

gun, we're all gonna fucking die.

767

:

Please

768

:

stop.

769

:

Laura: It's just gonna be a

standoff forever, if everyone

770

:

is smart, which I, mm, mm,

771

:

Xhafer: and Rosalind are arrested.

772

:

Laura: yeah.

773

:

Xhafer: at this point,

we cut over to Boomer.

774

:

Oh, we already

775

:

did this bit.

776

:

Yep.

777

:

Laura: the Sharons love her.

778

:

I did

779

:

skip ahead, but I

780

:

couldn't stop.

781

:

Beth: I do have an important question.

782

:

so, in Babylon 5, there was space

783

:

cocaine.

784

:

Or

785

:

space speed, yes.

786

:

Laura: hmm.

787

:

Beth: Um,

788

:

Laura: it.

789

:

made you a telepath.

790

:

Beth: That's dumb.

791

:

They should have done better.

792

:

Xhafer: Duuuust.

793

:

You can't say it like the word dust.

794

:

It's pronounced

795

:

Beth: I'm not doing that.

796

:

This is not the 90s.

797

:

We're not doing an extreme

hair gel commercial.

798

:

Um, but is there space,

speed, slash cocaine?

799

:

In Battlestar Galactica?

800

:

Because if so, there sh definitely

shouldn't be guns in tube.

801

:

Xhafer: Yeah, they've got stims

that they give the pilots in 33 to

802

:

keep them awake for the rotations.

803

:

So there's definitely, there's

definitely space speed.

804

:

Maybe it's space

805

:

Beth: Okay.

806

:

Okay.

807

:

Laura: I wonder if that

will come up later.

808

:

It feels like it should, but it may not.

809

:

Who knows.

810

:

Xhafer: Yeah, we need our Walkabout

episode, but before we get there,

811

:

Laura: Eh.

812

:

Xhafer: gotta get

813

:

addicted to stims.

814

:

Uh, if I had to pick a character,

815

:

Lee,

816

:

it seems, it seems, the most

appropriational, which is really

817

:

what I'm looking for when a sci

818

:

fi series does this.

819

:

So

820

:

Beth: I mean, Lee does have the most baby

girl energy out of all the characters.

821

:

Cause, cause part of being

baby girl is you are concerned.

822

:

About them all the time and I am genuinely

concerned about Lee all the time.

823

:

Laura: hmm.

824

:

Beth: that makes sense

825

:

Laura: I bet, I bet we'll have

different answers throughout the show.

826

:

That'll be fun, too.

827

:

Just periodically, we're like, okay, who's

828

:

Xhafer: Nick, next time, yum

yums on, we gotta be all like,

829

:

who's going on walkabout.

830

:

I want your distinctly Australian

831

:

opinion on this.

832

:

Laura: the most, uh, qualified opinion.

833

:

Xhafer: Hundred percent.

834

:

Hilo gets Starbuck up here, and

she sees Sharon, puts two and two

835

:

together, IMMEDIATELY, and just

836

:

opens fire.

837

:

Laura: Yeah, Starbucks got a little

bit more context than poor Hilo did.

838

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

839

:

And he's all like, no, you can't kill her.

840

:

She's pregnant, and Starbuck has

this, like, look of confusion,

841

:

turned to, like, mortified,

turned to rage, turned to weeping.

842

:

Laura: Yeah.

843

:

Beth: and like honestly Give Katie

Sackhoff a fucking Emmy already.

844

:

I know this show came out several years

ago we don't have to go into how many

845

:

years and Give her the Emmy now, fuck it.

846

:

Laura: Stop it, Shafir.

847

:

Stop that.

848

:

Beth: That was so inappropriate and so

849

:

rude.

850

:

Xhafer: the math with my hands, listener.

851

:

It's, sorry, I know it's an audio

format, so, we lose that sometimes.

852

:

Laura: we were so obsessed with how

much the Sharons love each other on the

853

:

ship that we didn't, we glossed totally

right over the fact that as they're

854

:

leaving, Boomer is leaving and doing

her thing, one of the Sharons comes

855

:

up and like caresses the nuclear bomb

856

:

and sees that, oh, Hmm.

857

:

Probably can't stop this.

858

:

And then the whole Bay Star explodes.

859

:

But the way she like touches the

bomb is also hysterical to me.

860

:

Xhafer: For sure.

861

:

It's just

862

:

so fucking weird.

863

:

Laura: All the cys are like when they're,

when they're in their most silent, it

864

:

feels like they're hypersexualized,

865

:

Beth: Yeah.

866

:

And that bomb was pretty

phallically shaped,

867

:

man.

868

:

Like,

869

:

Laura: Like most bombs.

870

:

Yes.

871

:

Beth: most bombs.

872

:

Xhafer: so we get Gaius, we see this

great landscape, and then we uh, go

873

:

over to the he finds himself mentally

transported to the Opera House on Kobol.

874

:

And if you're like, hey, this place

kind of looks familiar, that's

875

:

because this is the Orpheum Theatre in

Vancouver, and it's in like, a billion

876

:

y things.

877

:

Um,

878

:

Laura: Aww, I love that for them.

879

:

Xhafer: I mean, this was one of the first

shows that was really, when like, the

880

:

Vancouver film scene was like exploding.

881

:

This was one of the big shows

that was taken advantage of it.

882

:

But before that, Highlander the series

was filmed in Vancouver, in the 90s.

883

:

So that has a scene here.

884

:

Fringe was filmed in Vancouver.

885

:

That has a scene here.

886

:

Um, and there's a bunch of stuff.

887

:

It's, iconic place.

888

:

The Orpheum Theater.

889

:

I really want to go see

something there at some point.

890

:

Just for nostalgia and nerd stuff.

891

:

but our characters approach and in the

center of the stage, a crib, a baby girl,

892

:

Laura: Uh, What?

893

:

Beth: She's just like, Hello,

welcome to Opera House!

894

:

Is Baby.

895

:

Laura: Yeah.

896

:

A new member of our family.

897

:

You and me, Gaius.

898

:

Xhafer: baby.

899

:

Laura: of our family.

900

:

Uh, Okay.

901

:

I really want that to be explained in

the next episode, but I bet it's not.

902

:

Xhafer: It's totally not!

903

:

I haven't even watched it.

904

:

Don't fucking worry about it.

905

:

I can tell you that you've

906

:

got a while on that

907

:

Laura: I was going to say, this

feels like one of those, it's

908

:

going to be a minute, isn't it?

909

:

Xhafer: This

910

:

is,

911

:

Laura: need to know.

912

:

Xhafer: this is planting

a seed for significantly

913

:

later.

914

:

Laura: It is so hard not to Google stuff

after the show sometimes, you guys,

915

:

Xhafer: I google stuff all the

fucking time to remember stuff, so

916

:

I understand.

917

:

Laura: I, sometimes I just like, I needed

to explain it to me, but it's like, no,

918

:

this is what probably what the writers

intended for you to not understand.

919

:

And you do get to watch it faster than

the whole universe did when it came out.

920

:

So you should just chill, but it's hard.

921

:

Xhafer: audience appreciates your

922

:

strength.

923

:

Laura: Thank you.

924

:

Thank you, listeners.

925

:

Beth: am also experiencing the

clenched butthole timeline of

926

:

things, um, because I didn't want

you to have to clench on your own.

927

:

So I too am resisting the urge to Google

stuff, even stuff I have an inkling.

928

:

Of remembering I'm not Googling.

929

:

I will clench my butthole along with you.

930

:

We have, we are in butthole harmony

931

:

Xhafer: Uh,

932

:

Rosalyn gets locked up in the brig.

933

:

Lee's in handcuffs in CIC.

934

:

Adama makes a point of

being so proud of Boomer in

935

:

Racetrack.

936

:

That if there were comments, he

would have tagged Lee in them.

937

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah, he speeches

to Boomer, but at Lee.

938

:

Xhafer: for sure.

939

:

It's like, so great of you to follow

through on your mission, and follow

940

:

orders exactly to the letter, and

do everything that I asked of you.

941

:

I'm so fucking proud,

942

:

Laura: Dad's proud of one of you.

943

:

Beth: steady, so proud of how you didn't

let your emotions cloud your judgment.

944

:

Boomer.

945

:

While looking at Lee,

946

:

Xhafer: Daddy Adama only loves

the children who listen to me

947

:

and not their own judgment, yes.

948

:

Beth: obedience is the only

way to earn daddy's love.

949

:

Xhafer: Daddy's so proud of you.

950

:

Laura: don't know how I feel

about Daddy Adama anymore, guys,

951

:

Beth: Come, let daddy swaddle

you in his bosom of pride.

952

:

Only the pride, only

daddy's pride bosom for his

953

:

Good kids.

954

:

Laura: I'm going to go ahead and take

a second here, Aaron, to nominate

955

:

Daddy's Pride Buzz around the title.

956

:

Xhafer: Like, we're both, Beth

and I are muted because we're

957

:

recording in the same room.

958

:

We've just been cracking up for

like a minute and a half over here.

959

:

Beth: Most of our relationship

is just trying to make the

960

:

other person uncomfortable.

961

:

That is how we express love.

962

:

Xhafer: We do it quite often.

963

:

We've gotten rather good at it.

964

:

But, in the middle of this

speech here things move very

965

:

quickly.

966

:

Boomer shoots Adama twice immediately,

just like, pistol out, pop pop.

967

:

He is sprawled out over the planning

station in the center of CIC, his

968

:

blood covering the white lit panels.

969

:

As Leetai and Dee literally hold him

together, Boomer realizes what she's done,

970

:

and we get the pullout for the Christ

pose that ends the episode and sends us.

971

:

To our credits.

972

:

Holy shit.

973

:

guys.

974

:

Beth: Yeah.

975

:

That was not accidental renaissance.

976

:

That was very purposeful renaissance.

977

:

Is

978

:

Laura: Uh huh.

979

:

Xhafer: For sure.

980

:

Laura: Yeah.

981

:

Uh, We may have a little lurker in the

audience at this moment, and I just

982

:

want to tell him that that is when I

sent you the holy fucking shit, guys, or

983

:

whatever I sent to the Discord was sent.

984

:

When I watched this episode, not part one.

985

:

Beth: Yeah, that's fair.

986

:

That's fair.

987

:

Holy shit.

988

:

Laura: Yeah,

989

:

Xhafer: That's the

990

:

Laura: So, yeah.

991

:

And 6PT in part one had told

Gaius that he didn't want to be

992

:

on the ship when stuff happened.

993

:

It was dangerous or whatever.

994

:

While this is dangerous to Adama, I don't

know how dangerous it is to Gaius, so it

995

:

Xhafer: president.

996

:

He's the vice president.

997

:

It's not about shooting Adama, it's about

998

:

the coup.

999

:

Laura: Oh.

:

00:48:16,953 --> 00:48:17,633

Okay.

:

00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:18,389

Xhafer: if you're

:

00:48:18,463 --> 00:48:19,063

Laura: would be in a

:

00:48:19,263 --> 00:48:20,043

position.

:

00:48:20,179 --> 00:48:24,509

Xhafer: gonna arrest the president That

you don't want to be the vice president

:

00:48:24,509 --> 00:48:26,459

on the military ship when that shit goes

:

00:48:26,459 --> 00:48:26,879

down.

:

00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:28,319

Laura: Hmm.

:

00:48:29,015 --> 00:48:30,095

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:31,189

Laura: Okay.

:

00:48:31,249 --> 00:48:31,539

Okay.

:

00:48:31,539 --> 00:48:36,544

I was like, I don't see how that

was I was thinking when she was

:

00:48:36,544 --> 00:48:38,594

talking about, you know, Oh, you

don't want to be on the ship.

:

00:48:38,694 --> 00:48:39,194

Dangerous.

:

00:48:39,194 --> 00:48:39,624

Whatever.

:

00:48:39,634 --> 00:48:42,234

That there was an actual,

like, bomb or something again.

:

00:48:42,244 --> 00:48:43,894

But, yeah, that would have been too easy.

:

00:48:44,894 --> 00:48:45,714

Too boring.

:

00:48:45,895 --> 00:48:46,815

Xhafer: Too many bombs.

:

00:48:47,025 --> 00:48:47,975

So many bombs.

:

00:48:48,970 --> 00:48:50,010

Beth: Too many bums.

:

00:48:50,050 --> 00:48:51,830

Too many bums.

:

00:48:51,870 --> 00:48:52,920

Too many bums.

:

00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,020

Too

:

00:48:54,350 --> 00:48:54,850

bums.

:

00:48:55,734 --> 00:48:59,634

Laura: Too many bombs, but also,

like, Oh, the coups are so hard.

:

00:49:00,424 --> 00:49:01,324

Ha ha.

:

00:49:01,542 --> 00:49:05,382

Xhafer: think bombs might be Battlestar's

version of the murder cold open.

:

00:49:08,151 --> 00:49:08,651

Laura: ha.

:

00:49:09,631 --> 00:49:10,091

Yeah.

:

00:49:10,486 --> 00:49:13,516

Or the assassin cold open in Babylon 5.

:

00:49:13,957 --> 00:49:14,417

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:49:14,868 --> 00:49:18,092

Alright, well, uh, that's the episode.

:

00:49:18,222 --> 00:49:23,587

As is our way, we will now rate this

episode on a scale of one to ten.

:

00:49:23,587 --> 00:49:31,697

To 12 Colonies, Beth, as our guest,

babe, I get to ask you first,

:

00:49:32,387 --> 00:49:33,837

what'd you think of this episode?

:

00:49:34,562 --> 00:49:40,842

Beth: I'm gonna give it 12 out

of 12 colonies and 12 out of

:

00:49:40,842 --> 00:49:45,782

12 daddy's pride bosom as well.

:

00:49:45,912 --> 00:49:50,292

Um, I think that daddy Adama would

be very proud of this episode.

:

00:49:51,714 --> 00:49:52,494

It had everything.

:

00:49:52,504 --> 00:49:58,842

It had, you know, in, This show is

so fucking well written, alright?

:

00:49:58,852 --> 00:50:01,592

This is such a fucking well written show.

:

00:50:01,862 --> 00:50:04,012

Like, my god.

:

00:50:04,632 --> 00:50:09,842

And the cinematography, except for the

weird color grading, is incredible.

:

00:50:09,872 --> 00:50:10,772

It's impeccable.

:

00:50:10,802 --> 00:50:11,922

Everything is thought out.

:

00:50:11,932 --> 00:50:15,902

Truly, the wardrobe, the

costuming is always thought out.

:

00:50:16,312 --> 00:50:18,662

Too, there are little

clues and everything.

:

00:50:19,322 --> 00:50:21,012

Ugh, it's so good.

:

00:50:21,292 --> 00:50:22,742

Okay, I'm done now.

:

00:50:23,176 --> 00:50:26,756

Laura: Yeah, I definitely didn't

want most of the things that

:

00:50:26,756 --> 00:50:30,526

happened in this episode to happen,

but god dang they were good.

:

00:50:31,796 --> 00:50:33,776

So I gotta give it a 12 too.

:

00:50:33,806 --> 00:50:35,886

Like, this was good.

:

00:50:35,926 --> 00:50:36,266

Yup.

:

00:50:36,937 --> 00:50:44,517

Xhafer: Yeah, I'm gonna, so, we,

we, the scales tipped one way, I'm

:

00:50:44,517 --> 00:50:46,347

gonna tip the scale the other way.

:

00:50:46,897 --> 00:50:48,997

So we've, we've done 13 out

:

00:50:48,997 --> 00:50:51,127

of 12 for Earth.

:

00:50:51,982 --> 00:50:55,532

Um, I guess Kobol would be zero?

:

00:50:55,982 --> 00:50:58,712

That's not the case though, I

want it to wrap back around.

:

00:50:59,452 --> 00:51:06,272

Um, so in recognition of that I guess

this is a 13 out of 12 for me, for Kobol.

:

00:51:07,112 --> 00:51:09,912

Fuckin great fuckin episode.

:

00:51:10,012 --> 00:51:12,582

So fucking good.

:

00:51:13,268 --> 00:51:13,608

Laura: Yup.

:

00:51:14,452 --> 00:51:18,882

I, I hate all of the stuff that's

happened to our characters here.

:

00:51:18,932 --> 00:51:20,562

I don't like Rosalind in jail.

:

00:51:20,842 --> 00:51:25,242

I don't like Lee also arrested,

which probably worse somehow.

:

00:51:25,732 --> 00:51:28,252

I don't like his dad being shot.

:

00:51:28,362 --> 00:51:32,810

I don't like Gaius and

doing weird shit on Cobalt.

:

00:51:32,810 --> 00:51:36,040

I don't want that for them.

:

00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,410

I want better things for these

people and they're not getting it.

:

00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,420

I'm so sad.

:

00:51:40,725 --> 00:51:43,825

But also very compelled, and I

can't wait till the next episode.

:

00:51:44,232 --> 00:51:50,025

Xhafer: So with all of that

said, Next week, we're not back.

:

00:51:50,025 --> 00:51:54,485

we're Yeah, we've got, well,

we've got a season break.

:

00:51:55,075 --> 00:51:57,305

We're gonna have a couple

weeks off, as is our way.

:

00:51:57,575 --> 00:52:01,895

It will not be the length of time between

seasons 1 and 2 of Battlestar Galactica.

:

00:52:01,915 --> 00:52:03,395

It will just be a couple of weeks.

:

00:52:03,775 --> 00:52:05,315

But we like to take a couple of weeks off.

:

00:52:05,315 --> 00:52:10,230

If you're new to the podcast, you weren't

here for our Babylon 5 coverage, Every

:

00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:15,340

season, we take a couple weeks off, a

little rest, a little recharge for us,

:

00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:17,790

lets us build up a little bit of runway.

:

00:52:18,244 --> 00:52:22,804

Uh, So that way, yeah, we can do

things like fuck off to Malta for

:

00:52:22,844 --> 00:52:25,434

a couple of weeks without having

to worry about recording podcasts.

:

00:52:25,814 --> 00:52:28,322

That's just uh, the way we do

things around here on WhoRU.

:

00:52:28,332 --> 00:52:31,212

So, we'll be doing that, we'll

be off for a couple of weeks.

:

00:52:31,952 --> 00:52:37,209

We'll be back April 16th

for Season 2, Episode 1.

:

00:52:37,934 --> 00:52:38,664

Scattered.

:

00:52:39,164 --> 00:52:42,244

Ben is going to be joining

us from last time on.

:

00:52:42,612 --> 00:52:43,072

Laura: Excellent.

:

00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:44,759

Xhafer: forward to that, Ben.

:

00:52:45,424 --> 00:52:48,434

Classic podcast guest here on who are you?

:

00:52:48,894 --> 00:52:54,154

With Adama out of action, Colonel Tai

takes his position as the commander

:

00:52:54,174 --> 00:52:59,354

of the Galactica, Boomer is in

jail and the cat is out of the bag.

:

00:52:59,834 --> 00:53:00,914

She's a Cylon.

:

00:53:01,494 --> 00:53:07,024

It is quite possibly the worst episode

description I've ever read because all

:

00:53:07,024 --> 00:53:11,324

it does is tell us stuff that happened

in the episode we've already watched.

:

00:53:11,728 --> 00:53:14,058

Laura: Yeah, that's, that's good.

:

00:53:14,258 --> 00:53:14,758

I like it

:

00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:16,930

Xhafer: Yeah, I found that one.

:

00:53:16,930 --> 00:53:16,990

I

:

00:53:16,990 --> 00:53:17,210

didn't

:

00:53:17,210 --> 00:53:17,950

make that one.

:

00:53:18,988 --> 00:53:20,738

Laura: Oh good, you didn't have to

:

00:53:21,065 --> 00:53:22,885

Xhafer: I didn't have to, I

did not change a word of it.

:

00:53:24,834 --> 00:53:29,914

But before we get there on April 16th,

we have to leave you with a few things.

:

00:53:30,394 --> 00:53:33,074

Beth, why don't you tell

them where they can find you?

:

00:53:33,574 --> 00:53:39,444

Beth: So you can find me on Blue

Sky under Beth Danger Powers.

:

00:53:40,024 --> 00:53:42,726

Um, that's basically it.

:

00:53:43,106 --> 00:53:47,356

Um, you can also listen to my

podcast with Laura and Glow.

:

00:53:47,796 --> 00:53:51,746

Um, it's called Cool Girls

Don't Look at Explosions.

:

00:53:52,166 --> 00:53:56,076

Um, we are also available in the Discord.

:

00:53:56,476 --> 00:53:59,286

Of this here network, What

Happened Here Productions.

:

00:53:59,917 --> 00:54:01,557

and we have an email address.

:

00:54:01,557 --> 00:54:04,042

Coolgirlsgoboomatgmail.

:

00:54:04,042 --> 00:54:06,527

com

:

00:54:06,691 --> 00:54:11,931

Laura: know how much unhinged laughing

at Daddy Adama will stay in this episode,

:

00:54:12,251 --> 00:54:18,381

but if you like unhinged laughing at silly

things, Cool Girls is gonna be your place.

:

00:54:18,381 --> 00:54:21,031

laughing

:

00:54:21,217 --> 00:54:22,417

Beth: and misogyny.

:

00:54:24,147 --> 00:54:26,717

Xhafer: I love your guys's podcast.

:

00:54:28,637 --> 00:54:30,717

I'm a, it's, it's hilarious.

:

00:54:30,817 --> 00:54:33,277

Every time I listen, I'm laughing.

:

00:54:33,777 --> 00:54:38,867

I listened to the most recent episode

of, of our recording that aired

:

00:54:39,167 --> 00:54:45,593

was the uh, Stringfellow Dong one,

which just completely deteriorated

:

00:54:45,663 --> 00:54:47,663

at one point into hysteria.

:

00:54:47,973 --> 00:54:49,553

It was fucking hilarious.

:

00:54:50,083 --> 00:54:55,783

I had it on, on the car ride home and

that was like, I'm fine, I didn't get in

:

00:54:55,783 --> 00:55:00,633

an accident, but I should not have been

driving while listening to that podcast.

:

00:55:00,643 --> 00:55:02,413

That's how funny that podcast is.

:

00:55:03,033 --> 00:55:04,193

So, go, go check it

:

00:55:04,193 --> 00:55:04,513

out.

:

00:55:04,948 --> 00:55:05,518

Beth: Yeah!

:

00:55:05,956 --> 00:55:08,186

Xhafer: and while you're checking

stuff out, why don't you go ahead

:

00:55:08,686 --> 00:55:10,176

and check out Jeremy Siegel.

:

00:55:10,626 --> 00:55:11,596

Hey, Jeremy.

:

00:55:12,066 --> 00:55:14,155

JeremySiegel42.

:

00:55:14,155 --> 00:55:14,156

Bandcamp.

:

00:55:14,156 --> 00:55:14,466

com.

:

00:55:15,086 --> 00:55:16,406

Appreciate the hell out of you, buddy.

:

00:55:16,406 --> 00:55:18,296

Thanks so much for putting

together our theme music.

:

00:55:18,566 --> 00:55:21,486

You can find more of Jeremy's work

on the aforementioned Bandcamp

:

00:55:21,496 --> 00:55:25,356

website, where he's the only Jeremy

Siegel that makes music, or on

:

00:55:25,356 --> 00:55:28,276

streaming services as Nuclear Jaguar.

:

00:55:29,133 --> 00:55:30,882

I

:

00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:34,250

Laura: on Instagram for the

podcast artwork, which I

:

00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,460

do believe I'm looking at.

:

00:55:36,590 --> 00:55:37,340

Yes, Traffair?

:

00:55:37,662 --> 00:55:43,142

Xhafer: am wearing a Who Are You t shirt

right now with our podcast logo on it.

:

00:55:43,142 --> 00:55:44,642

It was a test run.

:

00:55:45,252 --> 00:55:48,512

Um, we need to get that going and,

:

00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,060

Laura: We'll talk.

:

00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:50,250

We'll talk stuff.

:

00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:50,660

Yeah.

:

00:55:50,992 --> 00:55:53,542

Xhafer: So hopefully

these will be available

:

00:55:53,662 --> 00:55:54,612

for people soon.

:

00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,040

Laura: Yeah, because I

:

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Beth: The fabric is, yeah, and

the fabric is really soft and, and

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nice, and the quality's lovely.

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I haven't stolen it from him

to wear yet, but I felt it,

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and it's real, it's real nice.

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Xhafer: They're nice t shirts.

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I wanted to make sure before we

literally put our names and faces on

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something that it was high quality.

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So had to do a

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test.

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Uh, yeah.

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Uh, Hey, Aaron, thanks so

much for adding this podcast.

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Really appreciate you putting in the time

and making a sound coherent and getting

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rid of all of our hysterical laughter.

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Uh, thanks so

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much.

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Maybe some, I don't, I wouldn't

know how much he gets rid

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of to be perfectly honest,

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uh, but yeah.

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Laura: A tasteful amount,

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Xhafer: Oh,

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Laura: Oh, well,

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Xhafer: implicitly listener, to

try and make the best of your week.

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We'll see you April 16th.

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Laura: we could tell them

if they just can't wait

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Xhafer: Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, come to the Discord

if you just can't wait.

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Hang out in the Discord.

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The Discord's a cool

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place.

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It's poppin

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Laura: We would love to have you.

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Xhafer: Love to

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have you there.

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Yeah.

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Alright, Bye, internet.

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Laura: Bye.

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Beth: Bye.

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.