BSG S1E7 - Cyber Sinister
Laura and Xhafer discuss workplace bathroom etiquette. Baltar's Six shenanigans give Laura second-hand embarrassment. Xhafer doesn't participate in circle pokes. Today's episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 1, Episode 7: Six Degrees of Separation.
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Hello, welcome to who are you?
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:This is a podcast where we're
watching fucking Battlestar
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:Laura: Listener, in case you couldn't
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:tell, there was a chunk of
podcasts we recorded quite ahead
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:of schedule and uh, we're, we're
now past a certain point in time.
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:If that helps.
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:Xhafer: Um, it's the 21st of
January as we're recording
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:and things have been better.
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:Internet.
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:Um, it's not apocalyptic.
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:Yet, I don't know, I don't, I, a
little piece of me refuses to believe
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:that it will get truly apocalyptic.
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:Like, I have to hold
on to some hope, right?
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:Um, that might be naive optimism,
that might be I'd like to think
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:it's not coming from a place of
privilege that I may or may not have.
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:Depending on who I'm
talking to at that moment.
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:Uh, So yeah.
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:How are you, listener?
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:I
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:Laura: Should we introduce ourselves
just in case this is someone's first
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:Xhafer: Oh God,
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:Laura: ever?
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:What a mistake you've made
if this is you, listener.
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:Xhafer: back and listen to
the one right before this.
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:Laura: Where we still had optimism
and hope in our souls and such.
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:I'm Laura.
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:Xhafer: Ja'far, and we're talking
about Battlestar Galactica:
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:this is Season 1, Episode 7,
Six Degrees of Separation.
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:Which is a fun episode.
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:I wish
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
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:Xhafer: really like this episode.
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:Laura: I struggle with the
six shenanigans a little bit.
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:Like, you know what I'm talking about.
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:The shenanigans where we're like making
out with Gaius every two seconds.
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:I struggle with
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:Xhafer: That's fair.
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:Laura: Like, in Gaius brain.
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:Because I am like dying of second
hand embarrassment whenever
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:someone observes Gaius being
truly Absolutely unhinged weird.
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:I cannot handle it.
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:I'm so embarrassed for everyone
involved and I want out.
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:Xhafer: Mm hm hm hm hm.
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:Laura: But Yeah, this is a generally
pretty fun episode of show.
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:Um, Aaron was editing some of our
back episodes the other day and
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:He was gonna cut a bit, and he was
like, Dang it, I can't, because then
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:you made a joke about everything
being on fire, and this is while L.
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:A.
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:was, like, currently burning.
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:Xhafer: no!
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:Laura: That, that was not happening
when we recorded, but was happening
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:while he was editing, and so
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:Xhafer: Was it close enough to release?
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:Ugh, okay.
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:Ugh.
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:Laura: Yes, yes, it was pretty
close to release, too, so,
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:Xhafer: Ugh, okay.
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:Well, sorry Los
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:Laura: literally and
figuratively, everyone on fire.
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:Xhafer: That is so unfortunate.
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:I am not a soothsayer, and I did not
have advanced knowledge of events,
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:so I don't feel bad about it, but I
sure as shit don't feel good about it.
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:Laura: Right?
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:Xhafer: Anyways we should probably
just get into this episode.
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:Maybe, maybe I'll feel a little
bit better getting to spend
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:time with one of my best buds.
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:Talking about Battlestar.
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:Laura: I know I always do, yeah.
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:I wish I had someone more in my daily life
that I could talk to about Battlestar.
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:Like, you know, new semester
just rolled around, right, at
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:OU, and I have had to squelch.
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:Squelch the urge to ask every new
person I've met in this first week
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:if they watched Battlestar Galactica.
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:Ha ha ha ha ha.
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:Xhafer: I just started a new job.
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:And today I went and had lunch
with two of my coworkers who are
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:like, Not in my immediate vicinity.
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:It's like my boss's boss and then my
boss's peer, because my, my team is made
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:of two little teams, and he's the leader
of the other team that I sit with that
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:does very different stuff than what I do.
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:Laura: Sure.
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:Xhafer: But I went and
had lunch with them today.
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:And like three minutes out of the
office, one of them's like, Oh, I've
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:been watching the Sopranos again.
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:And I'm all like, yes, TV.
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:Maybe there's a chance I've been
watching Battlestar Galactica:
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:And they're all like.
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:Oh, you know, I missed that one.
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:Both of them were just
like, Oh, I haven't seen it.
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:I'm just all like,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:It hurts when it's crickets
and you're like, oh man.
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:That's why I've been just
pushing that urge down so hard.
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:It's like, I cannot be the
weirdo who brought up Battlestar
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:Galactica the first time we met.
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:I cannot do it.
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:Do not do it, Laura.
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:Xhafer: Do it.
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:Well, the good news is, is next week,
it's the second week of the semester.
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:And you won't be the weirdo for
bringing it up at that point.
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:You're just, you're just small talking.
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:Laura: We'll have fought
through some stuff together now.
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:Now we're trench buddies, and you have
to tell me if you watch weird TV like me.
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:Xhafer: exactly.
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:That's what trauma bonding is for.
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:Laura: Yep.
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:Xhafer: Speaking of trauma bonding,
we open on Baltar looking around
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:the Cylon cell samples that he
has, trying to find a difference.
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:Laura: Yeah, I just wrote shit
in the microscope, but that would
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:make sense that it's Cylon Cells.
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:Heh heh heh.
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:Xhafer: But he's also talking
about God as he just gets down
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:on blaspheming in front of 6PT.
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:Laura: Yeah, she's pretty annoyed
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:Xhafer: Yeah, she sure is.
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:She's interested in saving his internal
soul, but he solely wants to fuck.
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:Laura: Hey, I just noticed
something in my notes.
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:6PT in this scene is in a green dress,
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:Xhafer: Huh.
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:Laura: not a red dress.
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:Xhafer: Wardrobe?
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:I don't know.
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:Laura: I'm like, does it mean something?
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:I don't know.
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:Like, I, I feel like it's always
been a red dress, but maybe,
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:maybe I'm misremembering things.
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:Xhafer: usu I mean, the red dress
is like, the iconic 6PT look.
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:So, I don't know, there's probably someone
who's done a lot more research into this
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:show that talks all about the different
color dresses and what they mean for 6PT.
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:Laura: that paper.
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:That
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:Xhafer: And I won't.
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:So, we're just gonna have to live with it.
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah, that's the
complementary color to red.
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:Hmm, I wonder if there's supposed to be
a meaning there that I'm missing out on.
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:I'm going to put a pin in
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:Xhafer: The meaning is that this
episode takes place on Christmas.
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:They just don't have Christmas yet.
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:Laura: Sure, sure.
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:Yeah she's really harping on
that monotheistic male god.
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:She specifically uses he him pronouns.
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:Xhafer: does.
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:Laura: I wonder what this means.
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:I don't know.
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:Xhafer: That's fair.
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:Um.
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:Baltar is rude as fuck about this, so
she uh, ghosts him in his own mind.
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:Laura: He tries to get her back
with, like, baiting her and
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:calling her a sexy toaster.
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:Xhafer: not gonna do it.
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:There's no
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:sexy racism, Baltar.
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:It doesn't exist.
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:In
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:Laura: Hot Halloween costume of 2004.
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:Sexy toaster.
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:Xhafer: palace, he resolves to
summon a brunette when Duala knocks
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:on the door, bringing him to CIC.
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:Laura: she not only comes to the
door, she comes to the door while
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:he's yelling about foreplay.
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:Xhafer: Yep.
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:Laura: And again Everything with Gaius
Baltar gives me second hand embarrassment,
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:like, I am just horrified by this.
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:This is the kind of stuff under
any other series where I didn't
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:have to, like, watch every second.
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:I would get up and walk out of the room.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:So they're in CIC, he walks in and he
finds Six talking to Adama, Ty, and Gaeta.
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:Laura: Yeah, but at first
he doesn't think she's real.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: And he makes a comment about her
outfit choice, which everyone hears.
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:Xhafer: Yep.
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:Laura: Oh, man.
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:This is, I mean, I'll give credit to our
actor here, whose name I have forgotten.
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:He's really good at this.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: it's really good.
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:Xhafer: Callis, he's great.
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:Laura: James
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:Callis.
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:James.
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:Killin it.
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:Absolutely killing it.
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:It is terribly uncomfortable for me.
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:Xhafer: He's like having this conversation
that he thought was private but isn't and
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:everyone's reacting and it's a lot of fun.
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:And Adama looks at him and
says, Is something wrong?
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:And this is the biggest fuck up of this
episode, because if Gaius had just gone,
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:this was this person, she died next
to me on Caprica during the invasion.
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:Like, she's a professional associate,
she died on Caprica during the attacks,
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:she can't be here, this must mean
she's a Cylon, I have, we have to,
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:like, if, if he says that immediately,
before anything else can come out,
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:before there's any accusations at
him, it immediately flips the script,
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:Laura: Exactly.
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:He should have gotten
the drop on her here and
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:Xhafer: hundred percent, be like,
this is a Cylon, this is someone
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:that I saw die on Caprica, there's
no fucking way, fucking, and.
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:You know, Boomer saved me, like,
I'm the only person, like, she
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:wasn't on the ship with me.
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:And the, the, like, the twelve
refugees that made it from that area
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:of Caprica, there's not a lot of us.
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:Laura: right.
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:Xhafer: the old lady, there's
the little kid who we've already
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:forgotten about, some randos, and me.
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:So,
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:Laura: Yeah, but instead he's too
busy, like, pulling his foot out of
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:his mouth and can't, can't formulate
a thought to get the drop on her.
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:So she gets to declare him a traitor
right there in front of everyone.
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:And now it's too late, Gaius.
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:Xhafer: After theme Baltar tries to
dodge these bullets but is super rattled.
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:Laura: Yeah, it's crazy to
me that we are having this
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:conversation in the middle of CIC.
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:Xhafer: yeah.
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:She's got the CD that's an octagon.
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:Laura: uh Huh.
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:We actually paused it to count the sides.
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:I was like, oh, look at this.
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:Our DVDs are like, cool.
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:shapes.
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:Neat.
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:Don't think it would
work, but maybe it would.
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:I don't know anything.
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:Xhafer: Um, I mean, the parts that
would still have the circle on the
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:inside would work exactly the same.
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:Laura: Oh, yeah.
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:Xhafer: Cause
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:Laura: you could still just like,
cut a weird shape, but circle on the
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:Xhafer: Yeah, cause CDs operate the same
effective way as a vinyl record and a
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:laserdisc, only they're
digital instead of analog.
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:Like vinyl and laserdisc are analog.
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:CDs are digital, so it's
stored in zeros and ones.
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:So it's highly compressed.
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:Xhafer: yeah.
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:Yeah, a,
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:Laura: but this uh, CD ROM has
proof of Gaius's treason on it.
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:Xhafer: be Gaius!
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:Laura: Uh Huh.
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:Yeah, he's like, watching her walk
them through this video, and he's shown
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:entering a private military server,
and he's like, There's nothing criminal
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:about that, and I wrote question
mark, question mark, question mark.
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:Xhafer: Just saying, well,
that's fake, obviously.
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:Laura: Right.
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:There's nothing illegal about that.
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:Okay, guys.
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:Xhafer: Right?
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:Laura: What a weirdo.
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:He's so weird.
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:Oh my god.
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:Xhafer: yeah.
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:So it's gonna take a few days for
CSI to enhance the image here.
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:Laura: Yeah, well at least,
you know, it's gonna take a few
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:days instead of just enhance.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: So, I'm wondering,
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:Gaeta tells us later, oh,
this was clearly fake.
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:Right?
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:But, he said that he, he basically
admitted that he was in that server room.
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:And, the, are the writers fainting us here
to make us wonder if he's also a Cylon?
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:Xhafer: Probably.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Because he's definitely admitting
that he went in there, and we knew
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:back in the miniseries, right?
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:That he did her some kind of favor.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, we saw him, like, go to
a building and did her a favor that was
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:nondescript that they didn't show us.
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:That might be this thing.
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
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:So we have enough there
to wonder, like, uh oh.
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:Gaius too?
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:Xhafer: might not even be a fake.
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:Gaius could just be lying to us
as an audience the entire time.
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:Laura: Right.
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:Xhafer: because the timing does work out.
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:Now, I don't know that he'd put a bomb.
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:Cause it's like, we see
the detonator and stuff.
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:Like, it's clearly the detonator
for all the bombs that they
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:have on Galactica and stuff.
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:Laura: Right.
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:Xhafer: so, I don't know that he
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:Laura: We don't think that
the favor he did was a bomb.
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:Like, from seeing the miniseries, it
seems more like the favor he did was,
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:like, a virus or, you know, a backdoor
or something, you know, cyber Yeah,
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:Xhafer: I would agree with that.
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:Laura: So the bomb is inconsistent
with, like, what we would think to be
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:true.
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:Xhafer: After all this we get our timer
of a couple of days, and then we go
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:down to the chief and Callie, who are
trying to figure out the Cylon Raider.
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:Starbuck begins moving on crutches.
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:It hurts real bad.
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:But Cottle Has go ahead and retained all
the Tylenol on the ship for personal use.
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:Laura: Is it Tylenol,
though, or is it opiates?
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:Let's be real.
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:Xhafer: It's 2004, so I feel like if
this show had been just five years
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:later, it would have been opiates
and that would have been a subplot,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Dot Coddle's opiate
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:Xhafer: Doc Hoddle goes on
walkabout, just what we needed.
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:Laura: Exactly, he's just like
walking from ship to ship.
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:Oh, hilarious, hilarious.
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:he also has like a trans
dimensional cigarette in the scene.
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:We had a funny moment where they're, you
know, they're cutting back and forth.
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:So, Starbuck is trying out her
crutches and Leigh is trying to
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:be like, Supportive, and Coddle is
watching, and there's a time that
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:like, clearly in this shot, he does
not have a cigarette in his mouth.
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:And then next shot, which is supposed to
be just like, same time, but different
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:angle, he has a cigarette in his mouth.
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:So, that was a fun bit of
business, that was really good.
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:In the meantime, Callie and Tyrell
have also been trying to like,
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:do stuff to the Cylon Raider.
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:That Starbuck captured.
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:And, uh, they hate her notes.
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:They say they're real bad.
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:And also it is very gooey and
stinky inside this thing now.
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:I imagine we have not had the
organic parts on ice, huh?
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:Xhafer: Doesn't look like it.
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:Laura: Yeah, no big cryo storage
for a uh, ship size body, huh?
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:Xhafer: Yep.
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:Yeah.
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:I mean, my, my thoughts here,
obviously, like, Starbuck
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:gets it going in this episode.
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:And also, this raider is a plot
point for another couple of episodes.
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:Laura: a going concern,
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:Xhafer: a thing.
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:Um, so like, I know that the Raider makes
it, spoilers but even though knowing
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:that in the back of my mind watching
this, it was just like, is it just dead?
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:Like, she cut its brain out?
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:Like, did it have enough, like,
life left in it to get to the end?
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:Like, what am I supposed to do?
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:Get her up into space and into
Galactica real quick in that like
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:15 minute span And then it and it's
just it's it took a couple days for
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:it to die or something very slowly
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:But it appears it's not even, like, dead
dead, because she gets it going at the
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:Xhafer: Yep, it can live without a brain
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:It's almost like we maybe should
have decentralized that brain, huh?
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:Xhafer: Just like I don't
know low key jealous.
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:Anyways
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:Baltar pleads to Rosalind to get him
off of the Galactica But the president
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:collapses wall on the line Yeah,
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:Laura: Like, he's, at this point,
he tries to be like, No, that's
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:a
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:Cylon.
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:Do the thing that he should have done.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, he's really worried about
implicating himself by having a known
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:associate as a Cylon which is fair, but
also like you didn't know she was a Cylon
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:until she showed up on the ship can be
your line and Just be like, oh no, she
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:worked in as a defense contractor like
that's probably Stuff, you know, like it's
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:a whole thing and it even like gives you
like an out for if they eventually find
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:out that you put code in or it was your
program like they know it was his program
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:actually it was his navigation program
data says that in the pilot, I think,
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah, they're, they,
they know it got in there, they don't
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:know that it was accidentally on
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:Xhafer: yeah, this can be the,
the person who put the exploit
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:in to clear his name for forever.
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:Laura: Yeah, Yeah, he's just
really missing an opportunity
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:here, because you think about
it, we have known Cylons, right?
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:We only have two for the,
crew of the Galactica, right?
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:We have three as an audience that are
known Cylons, but we have two as the crew.
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:We had Leoban, who was just a rando.
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:total nobody.
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:But we had, Doral was
the other one, right?
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:And he was on the President's staff?
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:Xhafer: He was the PR
officer aboard the Galactica.
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:Laura: Okay, so he wasn't on
Rosalind's staff at that point.
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:He was kind of an advisory thing for
a minute before they figured him out.
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:before Gaius didn't figure him
out, but figured something out.
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:Um, so like, the, the crew of the
Galactica is not completely oblivious
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:to the idea of, like, we could have been
close to a Cylon and never known it.
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:So if he had just come out and
said it, they can believe that
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:because they have lived that.
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:Xhafer: Yep.
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:After all this, we cut over to poor
Billy being assaulted by the press corps.
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:Laura: Poor Billy.
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:You know what's gonna make me sad?
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:You know, I I don't want any Cylon
spoilers, but if Billy's a Cylon,
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:I'll be the saddest person alive.
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:I'll just It'll hurt.
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:Xhafer: Someone sent us an Someone sent
us an email yesterday where they said that
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:they imagined this as resting Jafferface.
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:So, so that's what's happening here.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Anyway.
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:Xhafer: Anyways.
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:Laura: Billy's got the frantic press pool.
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:He's doing his best.
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:Gosh darn
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:it.
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:and Doc Cottle chastises Rosalind
for taking too many pills.
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:She's made the classic blunder of the sick
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:person.
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:Xhafer: She tripled her Ivermectin
dosage, hoping it would get rid
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:of the COVID faster, but that's
not how any of this works.
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:Laura: Nope, nope.
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:And poor Billy accidentally called
for help on an open channel instead
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:of the private president channel.
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:So every, everybody heard him
call for Doc Cottle to get right,
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:get his ass over here right now.
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:And Rosalind insists that she
should be back on her feet by the
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:end of the day to calm the masses.
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:Probably fair, probably a good
assessment of the situation.
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:And then she gets offered an
unpleasant shot to make that happen.
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:Xhafer: It's vitamin D.
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:Gets you going.
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:Laura: Yeah, B 12.
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:B 12's the one they push around here.
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:Xhafer: yeah.
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:B12's great.
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:Laura: Yeah, it actually is.
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:I like B 12.
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:Xhafer: Over at Adamus Quarters, he
questions the timing of things as
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:Six tries to put the moves on him.
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:Laura: What.
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:The.
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:Fuck.
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:Is Six just the seduction robot?
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:Is that her function?
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:We just send a Six in there.
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:We need somebody to be sexy.
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:Xhafer: The P.
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:T.
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:in 6P.
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:T.
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:actually stands for Honey Pot.
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:Laura: Oh, gross.
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:Xhafer: That's like the spies!
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:That's the spies that use seduction.
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:They have agency.
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:Laura: Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
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:Sedama is making the point to
Six, as they're having a drink,
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:that Gaius has a point that
this is a little too convenient.
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:Xhafer: Just in time.
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:Laura: she got her evidence from Dr.
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:Eric, who was so dead.
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:The one that was on the Olympic carrier.
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:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
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:Laura: And the Olympic
carrier was believed to have
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:been infiltrated by Cylons.
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:Xhafer: hmm.
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:Laura: And then she tells
Adama that she loved the doctor
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:and tries to kiss him too.
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:Xhafer: Yep.
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:Laura: Six.
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:What?
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:Ha ha
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:Xhafer: She's a, like, I'm not
saying that there's anything
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:she could say to make this work.
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:But she talked about, like, how she
loved the Doctor's, like, wisdom.
452
:And, like, rugged features
and grey hair and stuff.
453
:Like, I don't think that
works on Adama, to be clear.
454
:But at the very least, it
feels a little less Ugh.
455
:Laura: He is immediately very suspicious
of all of this, as he should be.
456
:He gets on the phone the second she leaves
and orders them not to let her leave the
457
:Xhafer: Yeah, Adama's got a
real strict OTP policy, so.
458
:Laura: Okay, on Caprica,
it's been 24 days,
459
:Xhafer: Caprica's turned
from blue to yellow.
460
:Laura: Yeah, Sharon and Hilo are running
through a stream and they're pursued by
461
:battlebots who I guess can't look down.
462
:Because they, like, Get up under
a bridge, kind of, we can see, you
463
:know, from underneath them that
they're hiding beneath this bridge.
464
:And the battle bots, like, come up
to the edge of the bridge and just
465
:look side to side and then walk away.
466
:ha
467
:Xhafer: It's, it's the classic sci
fi trope of evil robots being easily
468
:defeated by something mundane.
469
:In this case, crouching in Doctor
Who, Daleks are defeated by stairs.
470
:Like,
471
:Laura: ha ha ha.
472
:ha.
473
:Xhafer: there's, there's examples
all over the history of sci fi.
474
:Listeners, what are your favorite examples
of robots being defeated by the mundane?
475
:Tell us in the discord.
476
:Laura: Yes, please.
477
:I love these.
478
:This is uh, just classic.
479
:Xhafer: is the discussion I
want to be having on January
480
:20 whatever this episode.
481
:February?
482
:I don't We're far ahead still, right?
483
:February
484
:Laura: it's probably February.
485
:Give me this discussion as
a birthday present listener.
486
:Yeah, these bots are great.
487
:I think it's a.
488
:Not a bad idea, right?
489
:For these purposes, to build
in some sort of mundanity like
490
:weak spot in your robot, right?
491
:Like, you never know when
you're gonna need to, like,
492
:defeat all your robots at once.
493
:Gotta have a failsafe.
494
:Xhafer: percent, you need a failsafe.
495
:I wonder if we'll learn about
a failsafe in the Cylons.
496
:Huh.
497
:Laura: Hmm.
498
:Hmm.
499
:Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
500
:Xhafer: you tell me, right?
501
:Like, if you know, if there's a
failsafe, if you put something in
502
:there, you know, just a little switch
somewhere, you know, you tell me, right?
503
:Yeah, you tell me, huh?
504
:Yeah.
505
:I haven't done that bit in, like, a year.
506
:Oh, come.
507
:Laura: oh, I'm so glad it's back.
508
:I, the second you said it, I
was like, oh, here it comes.
509
:Yeah, so Gate is in his
office messing with Photoshop.
510
:takes a break to hit the
bathroom and the second hand
511
:embarrassment begins to flow once
512
:Xhafer: I have a very strict rule
in the workplace, and it is do
513
:not talk to me while I'm shitting.
514
:Laura: For real, do not
talk in the bathroom.
515
:Xhafer: I do not, I have had people I
was having a conversation with follow
516
:me into the bathroom at work, and I have
had to turn and be all like, I'm not
517
:having a conversation in the bathroom.
518
:It doesn't happen.
519
:Oh,
520
:Laura: have, I have one exception
and that is like ladies at the sink.
521
:If we are having like a makeup issue,
we are having a wardrobe issue.
522
:Let's take care of this
as sisters together.
523
:We will stand tall.
524
:We will get through
525
:Xhafer: Yeah, yeah, like,
your TP, you need to bang on
526
:the wall and ask someone for
527
:some?
528
:100 percent allowed.
529
:100 percent not what I'm talking about.
530
:Don't talk about work
while I'm shitting at work.
531
:Against the rules.
532
:Laura: don't ask me how your
incriminating photoshop of me is going.
533
:Ugh, Gaius is so weird.
534
:Gaius is stalking Gaeta into the
535
:Xhafer: Yeah.
536
:Did you
537
:catch the song he hums?
538
:Laura: I guess I didn't.
539
:Xhafer: in here, when he like, before
he verges small talk, to like, make
540
:his presence known so that it's
not just a voice coming out of the
541
:other stall, whistles the colonial
theme song, which is also the
542
:original Battlestar Galactica theme.
543
:Laura: I didn't notice that.
544
:But whistling a song to make it less
awkward than opening your mouth and
545
:saying words doesn't actually do that.
546
:Xhafer: And like, it's funny because
it's a TV show, but can you imagine
547
:someone in the stall next to you
whistling the Like the national anthem.
548
:Laura: I would think
549
:Xhafer: Today of all days!
550
:Oh no!
551
:Laura: Oh no!
552
:Oh my god.
553
:Ugh.
554
:Oh
555
:so Gaius is asking how it's going.
556
:Gate has got a few hours to go.
557
:And he just keeps making it
weird until Gaeta, like, rushes
558
:out without washing his hands.
559
:That's how you know it's serious.
560
:Xhafer: it's bad.
561
:Laura: At least we all acknowledge, too,
that not washing your hands is a crime.
562
:Because Gaius is like, What?
563
:You didn't wash your hands?
564
:Xhafer: Yes.
565
:Laura: Eugh!
566
:But then, apparently, Six
is also in another stall.
567
:Xhafer: Yeah, yeah, Shelly
comes in to which Gaius harasses
568
:her in the bathroom as well.
569
:Ending with a very confused pilot
who walks into the bathroom, and
570
:is like, What the hell is going on?
571
:And we get the classic line, No more Mr.
572
:Nice Gaius.
573
:Laura: was, I did have to
give him points for that.
574
:That was pretty good.
575
:That was, he's been waiting a while to say
576
:that.
577
:Xhafer: an ad lib.
578
:Laura: Oh, good job, James.
579
:Xhafer: James
580
:Laura: You are doing very, very well.
581
:I noticed a couple
things about this scene.
582
:Xhafer: let's hear it.
583
:Laura: When he's assaulting Six and she's
trying to get past him, we know that
584
:these Cylons have superhuman strength,
585
:Xhafer: Yes.
586
:Laura: and she, like, goes
to push him and can't.
587
:Xhafer: Yeah.
588
:Laura: So, questions.
589
:Is she faking it?
590
:Is she one of the Cylons that
doesn't know they're a Cylon?
591
:I mean, so many things
592
:that you wonder here.
593
:Xhafer: And I think by the end of
the episode, it doesn't matter.
594
:Because by the end of the
episode, she does know she's
595
:a Cylon because she ghosts.
596
:Um,
597
:Laura: she's gotta be aware, or is she
just like self destructed or something?
598
:Don't know if that's possible yet,
599
:Xhafer: I was really hoping
that, like, because this episode
600
:ends on, like, a big zoom in.
601
:It starts on a big zoom in on the fleet
and ends on a big zoom out on the fleet.
602
:I was really hoping that we would
see her, like, see that she, like,
603
:airlocked herself or something.
604
:At the end as it was
zooming out, even if it
605
:Laura: She's just like floating
in space because she doesn't
606
:care because she's a robot.
607
:Yeah.
608
:Oh, that'd be so
609
:Xhafer: like,
610
:the, the, the high school senior
prank of releasing the, the greased
611
:pigs in the hall and they're
labeled one, three, and four.
612
:Laura: Uh
613
:Xhafer: Just like, you're gonna be
looking for that other pig for forever.
614
:Principal Skinner.
615
:That's, that's the exact thing.
616
:Is that Adama's gonna be searching for
this Cylon on the ship for forever.
617
:And she just airlocked herself
immediately and they'll never find her.
618
:And he just will never be able
to sleep right because of it.
619
:Laura: Yeah.
620
:For real.
621
:But you know, Adama
shouldn't be sleeping right.
622
:In general, I keep thinking about this,
like, at the weirdest moments of my
623
:day, I'll come back to it, about how
somebody left him the weird paper that
624
:said there are 12 models of Cylons.
625
:Who the fuck did that?
626
:Xhafer: Yeah!
627
:Laura: We should be worried about
628
:Xhafer: Who the fuck did do that?
629
:That's a great question.
630
:Laura: We should be worried
about that a lot, but Adama has
631
:never given us any indication.
632
:And it's almost like this show
wanted me to forget, but I haven't.
633
:Xhafer: It does want you to forget.
634
:Laura: I have thought
about it a lot, though.
635
:Xhafer: God, I think
they eventually tell us.
636
:Maybe.
637
:Laura: Yeah.
638
:Xhafer: There is a made for TV movie
that we'll be watching towards the end
639
:of our watch through that came out,
I want to say, after season four, or
640
:during, close to the end of season
four, which is a bunch of stuff from the
641
:first and second seasons told from the
silence perspective, if memory serves.
642
:Laura: Interesting.
643
:All right.
644
:Xhafer: I think that's, I don't
know, it's been, I haven't
645
:watched it since it came out, so,
646
:Laura: Yeah.
647
:Xhafer: 15 years.
648
:So if I'm wrong on that, but I
think that's, I think we find out
649
:who did it then, I don't know.
650
:Someone in spoiler chat who's watched
it more recently than me, tell me
651
:if I'm remembering things correctly.
652
:Laura: I can't see it.
653
:Xhafer: yes, exactly, please.
654
:Laura: Yeah, so we cut over to
Tyrell, and he's still fucking with
655
:the fighter, um, when Boomer shows
656
:Xhafer: Mmhmm.
657
:Laura: And they try to talk work a
little bit, he complains about it, and
658
:Boomer gets super weird with the ship.
659
:she tells him maybe he needs to
treat it like a pet, and she's
660
:like, you know, there's that part
that looks like the Cylon helmet.
661
:Xhafer: Mmhmm.
662
:Laura: the Centurion helmet
or the Battlebot helmet.
663
:And she's like, mind melding it for a
664
:Xhafer: petting it and stuff.
665
:Laura: Yeah.
666
:And uh, if Tyrell wasn't suspicious
before, he's suspicious now, right?
667
:Xhafer: For sure.
668
:Laura: he not going to
somebody with that suspicion?
669
:Xhafer: Yeah,
670
:Laura: I don't know.
671
:I guess, I guess we did have a whole
episode about witch hunts and stuff,
672
:but I think he's got some evidence.
673
:Xhafer: he just I don't know.
674
:Laura: He's just
675
:Xhafer: Yeah.
676
:He's a big puppy.
677
:He feels, he has fee fees.
678
:And they're
679
:not, yeah, I mean, that would
probably be better for him.
680
:But you know, here we are.
681
:Laura: Here we are.
682
:Colonel Ty goes to hassle Starbuck.
683
:Xhafer: uh, Ty sends Starbuck a Facebook
poke to see if she's still breathing.
684
:And full disclosure, I assume this
cannot mean anything other than
685
:flirting, because that's all a
Facebook poke has ever meant to me.
686
:And I don't know why you'd do
one if you weren't flirting.
687
:I'm looking at you, Admiral Harper,
right now through my webcam.
688
:Laura: Uh,
689
:Xhafer: I want you to know that I had this
joke written before you sent me a poke
690
:two days ago, calling you out by name.
691
:Laura: hilarious.
692
:Yeah, I was gonna say, oh boy,
there's a whole big group of our F.
693
:O.
694
:D.
695
:friends that are in one
big, like, circle poke.
696
:So
697
:Xhafer: I know.
698
:I've tried to get at I've been
poked by that circle poke a handful
699
:of times, and I never I never
700
:Laura: And you didn't like it,
701
:Xhafer: I don't poke back.
702
:No.
703
:Laura: Hmm, good to know.
704
:Good to
705
:Xhafer: Yeah.
706
:I swear to fuck, everyone who listens
to this podcast is gonna poke me now.
707
:Laura: Uh Huh, yep, you
have done ruined it, sir.
708
:Xhafer: It's fine.
709
:I see what you're doing and I want
you to know that it's all flirting.
710
:Every single one.
711
:Laura: But you know what?
712
:Even though he is using this
psychology on her, and she
713
:knows That it is the flirting.
714
:She falls for
715
:Xhafer: a hundred percent.
716
:The reverse reverse
psychology totally works.
717
:Laura: So, all I'm saying is
maybe you better be a little
718
:scared of the circle poke, J'fair.
719
:Xhafer: Over in Adama's quarters
Gaius tells the commander he is
720
:convinced that Shelley is a Cylon.
721
:Adama asks for proof, which he would
need his equipment to do, of course.
722
:Laura: Right.
723
:But we cannot let this
man touch his equipment.
724
:He might be a collaborator.
725
:So.
726
:I understand the bind that we are in.
727
:Xhafer: Yeah, well, I mean, his
equipment is gonna say she's a
728
:Cylon, whether or not she's a Cylon.
729
:Adama doesn't need him to
waste and give him access to a
730
:nuke to be able to know that.
731
:So, I get it.
732
:Laura: Mm hmm.
733
:Xhafer: But uh, he's also uh,
pleading with 6PT in his mind
734
:here, as all this is going on.
735
:Laura: Yeah.
736
:He uh, pleads and tells her that he loves
her, like yelling in his mind palace.
737
:Xhafer: As uh, all this is going on,
Gaeta sees the image come into clear view.
738
:As a fire alarm is pulled, allowing
Gaius to try and erase this
739
:image and or destroy the computer
740
:to no avail.
741
:Laura: Why did we allow this man
to walk down a hall by himself
742
:where there are fire alarms?
743
:Xhafer: This is the thing that makes
me think that this might not be a fake.
744
:Laura: Yeah.
745
:That
746
:the
747
:image isn't a fake?
748
:Xhafer: I mean, I think the bomb
might be a fake, but I don't think
749
:the image of Gaius is a fake.
750
:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
751
:And I mean, he's admitted
that he was there, basically.
752
:Like, he didn't, but he did.
753
:Xhafer: Yeah.
754
:Laura: but he's saying, but
saying, like, I was there, but
755
:they put a bomb in my hand,
756
:Xhafer: It's still the mainframe
the day before the Cylons.
757
:Yeah, it's still not good luck.
758
:Laura: right, right?
759
:That's not helpful.
760
:So, yeah, the image is, is probably real.
761
:Gaius breaks in during this fire alarm.
762
:And this is, again, bravo, James.
763
:Like,
764
:Xhafer: good.
765
:Laura: Amazing acting.
766
:Like, he is smashing the keyboard
like I can't get my sass code to run.
767
:And these keyboards are also cool.
768
:He is throwing shit at the monitors.
769
:Xhafer: Yeah.
770
:Laura: amazing.
771
:I love when he, like, goes and unplugs the
computer but the one monitor is still on.
772
:Xhafer: Which is, it's perfect for
Adama to walk in, have him be arrested,
773
:and the one monitor is just there
with his image hanging out on it.
774
:Well, great constructed shot.
775
:Beautifully, beautifully
776
:Laura: really good.
777
:so he gets taken down to the brig.
778
:And I really have to apologize.
779
:I, I take a breath before I say Starbuck's
name every single time because I
780
:write her name in my notes as S bucks,
and I'm trying not to say S bucks,
781
:which is the ticker symbol for Starbucks.
782
:We Starbies.
783
:Yeah, so Starbeast
makes it to the fighter,
784
:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
785
:Yeah.
786
:Laura: Hates it, obviously.
787
:It's so gooey in there.
788
:Uh, no.
789
:It's gotta be
790
:Xhafer: It's gotta be so gross.
791
:Laura: And uh, she
manages to get the engine
792
:going.
793
:She knows the right tubes
to pull, or whatever.
794
:Xhafer: hmm.
795
:I'm so glad she didn't have
to suck on the oxygen tube.
796
:Laura: Oh, me too.
797
:Xhafer: I thought that
might have been the thing.
798
:Laura: Ugh, that can't can't be
good for you at this point, right?
799
:There's gotta be germs all over that now.
800
:Like, things things growing, and
801
:Xhafer: Bathe me in Lysol after
I come out of the fucking raider.
802
:Laura: Yeah, you need, like, the Star
Trek Enterprise decon chamber, and
803
:just be rubbed all over with blue gel.
804
:Xhafer: Yeah, I need the sexy blue gel.
805
:Give me the sexy blue gel,
806
:Laura: Mm hmm.
807
:Xhafer: It won't be sexy,
but I will be clean.
808
:Laura: Yep.
809
:Yep.
810
:Xhafer: Over in Galactica's brig,
the president goes to visit Gaius
811
:and ask him why he betrayed humanity.
812
:She has known it was true
the second she heard it.
813
:Laura: Huh.
814
:Xhafer: She knew he was ick and is right.
815
:Laura: Yeah.
816
:This is weird.
817
:Xhafer: This is such an important scene.
818
:this scene, this scene pays
off in like, I'm not gonna
819
:say how many episodes exactly.
820
:But this, this scene, remember this scene.
821
:Laura: I think she stresses, too,
that she knew he was somehow involved.
822
:She's not saying, like, I
knew you were a Cylon or
823
:Xhafer: Yeah.
824
:You betrayed us though.
825
:You are a betrayer.
826
:Yeah.
827
:Yeah.
828
:Laura: soul once again.
829
:Polytheism.
830
:Hmm.
831
:Hmm.
832
:I don't know.
833
:I felt weird about this scene because I
was like, how did you just know, Rosalyn?
834
:How did you just know?
835
:Xhafer: Oh.
836
:Oh.
837
:Some implication.
838
:Hmm.
839
:Maybe that's what's going on.
840
:Maybe, maybe she knows.
841
:Maybe she knows.
842
:Maybe she knows.
843
:Maybe
844
:she
845
:Laura: Yeah.
846
:Xhafer: nuts.
847
:It's what
848
:Laura: again, you know,
intuition sometimes is wrong.
849
:So is she just stupid or is she Cylon?
850
:I don't know.
851
:Just trying to shoehorn a drop in there.
852
:Xhafer: they're there for.
853
:over on Caprica Blue.
854
:It's Sharon's turn to nap, but instead
of napping, they decide to sleep.
855
:TOGETHER!
856
:Laura: Ja'far did the, the appropriate
hand motions, two fingers up and then down
857
:with that, just so you know.
858
:Xhafer: It's some of that good
old thunderstorm red spine fuckin
859
:Laura: Oh, did she have a red
860
:Xhafer: She did!
861
:She did have a red spine.
862
:Laura: Damn, I was writing notes.
863
:Xhafer: I forgot that they
still tried to do this.
864
:Laura: I was, I knew
this was coming, right?
865
:Because we've for a couple of
episodes been taunting Sharon about
866
:how he
867
:doesn't love you
868
:Xhafer: that's a bit presumptuous.
869
:We don't, we don't know if this
really works for either of them, but
870
:Laura: Yeah, but they've been like
taunting Sharon about you can't
871
:make him love you or whatever.
872
:And They were co workers before,
873
:it's conceivable to have a crush on a
co worker, that's a thing that happens.
874
:And then they're put in this high
stress situation where they think
875
:they're like two of the last, at least
military people, alive on Caprica.
876
:I don't think for 24 days they haven't
said anything about other survivors
877
:that they've actually found and seen.
878
:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
879
:Laura: So, it's conceivable that
Hilo could, like, gravitate toward
880
:this one other person that he's
881
:Xhafer: The one human being he's
known for the last three weeks?
882
:Yeah.
883
:Laura: Yeah.
884
:It's like when you make friends
with a group of people just
885
:because you have to be around them.
886
:So it's like, well, it's more pleasant
to be friends with you than not.
887
:And, so they're just being pushed a
little higher in the pressure cooker.
888
:Xhafer: Yeah, it's, once
again, trauma bonding.
889
:Laura: Oh, yeah, that's the thing.
890
:Xhafer: It's a shame that's at the
end of the episode, because that'd
891
:be a great full circle moment.
892
:Laura: Trauma Bonding.
893
:Xhafer: Gaius prays here.
894
:We go to Gaius.
895
:He actually prays.
896
:Laura: Uh huh.
897
:On his knees at the bedside.
898
:Xhafer: this is his moment
of true desperation.
899
:And in it 6PT comes to him.
900
:And on cue, Gaeta comes to release him.
901
:He has found evidence of the forgery.
902
:As they leave the brig, we cut over
to Adama and Ty, who are searching
903
:the fleet for Shelley but she
somehow isn't anywhere to be found.
904
:Laura: Yeah.
905
:We see that there's no Gaius in a foxhole.
906
:Like, when the bombs are falling,
he's gonna get on his knees
907
:and that's sure suspicious.
908
:Xhafer: The timing of everything?
909
:It's almost divine, isn't it?
910
:Serendipitous.
911
:Laura: I'm not convinced.
912
:Oh, we left out one little detail.
913
:In between scenes Boomer goes to her
locker, and someone has painted Cylon
914
:Xhafer: In the same yellow paint that
Starbuck wrote her name on the Raider on.
915
:Laura: Oh, I still think
that was duct tape.
916
:Xhafer: Uh, it might have
been duct tape, but Huh.
917
:Laura: Yeah.
918
:Huh.
919
:Xhafer: Yeah.
920
:Laura: And that's while Sharon and
Hilo, it's like juxtapositioned
921
:with their like boning.
922
:I forgot about that.
923
:Yeah,
924
:Xhafer: yeah.
925
:Laura: Uh.
926
:Yeah, but Boomer's really upset.
927
:She says it's not true.
928
:But, girlfriend.
929
:Even you should be able to tell
by now, like, you were fiddling
930
:with a bomb under your seat.
931
:Xhafer: How do you not know?
932
:Oh, she does.
933
:She does know, she just can't know.
934
:Laura: Yeah.
935
:Xhafer: Because her brain is literally
programmed to not let her know.
936
:Laura: Yeah.
937
:I wonder if it would self
destruct, if she found out.
938
:Like, I guess maybe I'm being colored
a little bit by how I was interpreting
939
:the bomb scene at first, where I thought
that she was, like, self destructing.
940
:Xhafer: Hmm.
941
:Laura: But, I don't know.
942
:Xhafer: Yeah.
943
:Laura: see.
944
:We'll see.
945
:But yeah, 6PT.
946
:Shelly is back.
947
:Shelly is gone.
948
:And Gaius specifically asks 6BT.
949
:Was she real?
950
:Was she ever really here?
951
:And just
952
:Xhafer: Yeah, I'm just
gonna take my dress off.
953
:So that way you don't think about things.
954
:Laura: Yeah, right?
955
:Xhafer: Yeah.
956
:I more.
957
:I got some.
958
:She tells him to use his head.
959
:No, the other one.
960
:Laura: Nyeh.
961
:Xhafer: Okay, maybe I
don't have a couple more.
962
:Maybe I just got one.
963
:Okay.
964
:Laura: That's alright.
965
:It's good
966
:Xhafer: Yeah, we got there.
967
:the president has a press
conference clearing Gaius name,
968
:making him more popular than ever.
969
:Laura: Yeah, interesting
of her to do that.
970
:When she just said, I know
you were involved somehow.
971
:Xhafer: Yeah.
972
:Laura: I know that you
were involved somehow.
973
:Xhafer: I know that you were involved.
974
:You, you are guilty of something,
and I don't know quite what.
975
:I didn't think it was this,
but I knew it was something.
976
:So it might be this.
977
:Laura: Yeah.
978
:And we're just gonna clear his name.
979
:I mean, you probably don't like public
relations in this tenuous fleet situation.
980
:Don't have a lot of choice.
981
:Xhafer: Well, he's like a celebrity
outside of being a survivor, like, if
982
:he were on trial for treason on Caprica,
not, the side of the Cylon attack never
983
:happens, it would be all over the news.
984
:Like, he is a famous dude.
985
:So, you might have to do this extra step.
986
:Compared to like, Douala,
that no one knows.
987
:Laura: Yeah.
988
:Xhafer: like, If uh, Tyrell's guy
who's in the brig was pardoned, yeah,
989
:Laura: Nobody knows.
990
:Xhafer: this step.
991
:Laura: Yeah.
992
:Xhafer: people know Gaius,
993
:Laura: Right.
994
:So she has to do something.
995
:I get it.
996
:You can't just quietly
sweep anything away.
997
:Xhafer: You've been saying his name in
past press conferences, like, oh, great
998
:scientist Gaius Baltar, hope of humanity.
999
:So,
:
00:47:49,568 --> 00:47:50,278
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:47:51,318 --> 00:47:56,778
I just wonder if the next episodes we're
gonna see any of that suspicion remaining.
:
00:47:57,023 --> 00:47:57,343
Xhafer: yeah.
:
00:47:58,158 --> 00:47:59,218
Laura: I sure hope so.
:
00:47:59,218 --> 00:48:02,428
I hope it doesn't get just
dropped like a hot potato.
:
00:48:02,982 --> 00:48:06,202
Xhafer: mean, without spoilies,
does Rosalind seem like the
:
00:48:06,212 --> 00:48:08,190
Laura: very smart mom.
:
00:48:08,190 --> 00:48:09,509
Very clever
:
00:48:09,509 --> 00:48:10,168
mom.
:
00:48:10,168 --> 00:48:10,827
So.
:
00:48:13,417 --> 00:48:13,767
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:48:17,077 --> 00:48:17,517
Yeah.
:
00:48:18,457 --> 00:48:27,027
All right, well, time to rate this
episode on a scale of 1 to 12 colonies.
:
00:48:28,065 --> 00:48:32,325
Laura: I mean, I kind of want to
give it a six just because of six
:
00:48:32,355 --> 00:48:34,605
Xhafer: it two sixes and give it a 12.
:
00:48:35,395 --> 00:48:39,085
Laura: oh, I can't give something
a 12 that made me feel so
:
00:48:39,085 --> 00:48:40,715
uncomfortable for most of the
:
00:48:40,715 --> 00:48:41,215
episode.
:
00:48:41,245 --> 00:48:41,705
Xhafer: fair.
:
00:48:42,045 --> 00:48:43,325
100 percent that's fair.
:
00:48:43,830 --> 00:48:46,580
Laura: I'm going to give it a
six because I find that amusing.
:
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Xhafer: Okay.
:
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:53,070
I'm going to give it a 9 because
that's one and a half sixes, which
:
00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:54,440
is what we have in this episode.
:
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,580
Laura: That's pretty good.
:
00:48:55,580 --> 00:48:56,320
Yeah.
:
00:48:56,410 --> 00:48:57,150
I like it.
:
00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:58,050
I like it.
:
00:48:58,650 --> 00:49:00,270
I'll, I'll drink to that.
:
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:00,810
Yeah.
:
00:49:01,686 --> 00:49:02,256
Xhafer: Alright.
:
00:49:02,296 --> 00:49:04,326
Well, next week.
:
00:49:04,796 --> 00:49:09,116
We are not watching Season
1, Episode 8, Flesh and Bone.
:
00:49:09,786 --> 00:49:10,406
Laura: Not yet.
:
00:49:10,766 --> 00:49:11,946
Xhafer: I thought that was this episode.
:
00:49:13,266 --> 00:49:15,996
That was an that was another sex joke!
:
00:49:16,926 --> 00:49:17,056
Laura: I
:
00:49:17,396 --> 00:49:19,596
Xhafer: Double arrows down again!
:
00:49:20,346 --> 00:49:21,196
Alright, um,
:
00:49:24,233 --> 00:49:27,453
no, we're not going to be watching
Season 1, Episode 8, Flesh and Bone.
:
00:49:27,803 --> 00:49:29,163
We have our movie break.
:
00:49:29,783 --> 00:49:32,871
And for our movie break, what
we're going to do this season,
:
00:49:33,011 --> 00:49:33,911
we're going to do the same thing.
:
00:49:33,911 --> 00:49:34,891
We pick actors.
:
00:49:36,111 --> 00:49:39,641
I pick a good movie and a bad movie
for a couple different actors.
:
00:49:39,641 --> 00:49:42,861
We decided Edward James
Olmos was the first.
:
00:49:43,301 --> 00:49:48,001
We were going to put a poll up asking
if we should do the good one or the
:
00:49:48,001 --> 00:49:52,371
bad one, but when the good one for
Edward James Olmos was Blade Runner,
:
00:49:53,231 --> 00:49:53,551
Laura: hmm.
:
00:49:53,691 --> 00:49:55,851
Xhafer: it's too perfect.
:
00:49:56,601 --> 00:49:57,151
Laura: Right.
:
00:49:57,491 --> 00:50:00,861
Xhafer: no poll, because It's too perfect.
:
00:50:01,191 --> 00:50:05,081
I mean, it's got Edward James almost
and a whole plot where you don't
:
00:50:05,081 --> 00:50:09,571
know if someone is a robot or a
human, like, can you ask for more?
:
00:50:09,961 --> 00:50:11,861
Laura: It's basically this show.
:
00:50:12,031 --> 00:50:12,461
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:50:13,102 --> 00:50:15,972
I'm sure it won't at all be
depressing given what day it is.
:
00:50:15,972 --> 00:50:16,832
Oh, fuck.
:
00:50:16,832 --> 00:50:17,692
We're back.
:
00:50:18,132 --> 00:50:20,612
Laura: Oh, no, we did it again.
:
00:50:20,772 --> 00:50:21,132
Xhafer: no.
:
00:50:21,742 --> 00:50:23,462
Laura: Oh, I'm sad again.
:
00:50:23,712 --> 00:50:24,685
Thanks, Ja'far.
:
00:50:24,685 --> 00:50:25,831
Ha ha
:
00:50:26,187 --> 00:50:31,147
Xhafer: I guess we'll watch Blade Runner
next week and it won't be depressing.
:
00:50:32,102 --> 00:50:32,562
Laura: womp.
:
00:50:37,532 --> 00:50:39,902
There's ways to make
jokes about Blade Runner,
:
00:50:39,902 --> 00:50:40,292
right?
:
00:50:40,392 --> 00:50:41,002
I hope.
:
00:50:41,027 --> 00:50:42,137
Xhafer: make some Blade Runner jokes.
:
00:50:42,417 --> 00:50:45,614
And uh, if any of you are nerds,
we're watching the final cut.
:
00:50:46,124 --> 00:50:47,524
Just getting that out there.
:
00:50:48,429 --> 00:50:49,529
Laura: Apparently, it matters.
:
00:50:49,549 --> 00:50:49,999
Yeah.
:
00:50:50,054 --> 00:50:51,104
Xhafer: I'm told it matters.
:
00:50:52,124 --> 00:50:56,174
I'm sure I've seen different cuts
throughout the course of my life, but
:
00:50:56,504 --> 00:50:58,164
the final cut is what we'll be watching.
:
00:50:58,594 --> 00:51:00,776
So, anyways, yeah.
:
00:51:01,296 --> 00:51:03,556
So that's that.
:
00:51:04,216 --> 00:51:06,746
We have to do a couple of things.
:
00:51:06,776 --> 00:51:11,136
One, this is the first episode we've
recorded since Cool Girls Don't Look
:
00:51:11,136 --> 00:51:12,736
at Explosions started coming out.
:
00:51:13,591 --> 00:51:14,751
Laura: I know.
:
00:51:15,176 --> 00:51:18,256
Xhafer: so why don't you talk
about Cool Girls Don't Look
:
00:51:18,256 --> 00:51:19,426
at Explosions for a minute,
:
00:51:20,306 --> 00:51:22,456
and give Cool Girls the Who Are You bump.
:
00:51:23,281 --> 00:51:23,831
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:51:23,981 --> 00:51:26,271
So, cool girls don't look at explosions.
:
00:51:26,281 --> 00:51:30,581
It's myself, Ja'far's partner,
Beth, and Ben's wife, Glo.
:
00:51:31,241 --> 00:51:34,051
And we are working our way
through a dude TV show.
:
00:51:34,436 --> 00:51:38,316
Hopefully, we will also work our way
through many other dude TV shows,
:
00:51:38,336 --> 00:51:43,366
but following the last time on,
like, Ethos, we are skipping a bit.
:
00:51:43,426 --> 00:51:47,556
We're skipping around a bit cause
honestly, guys, I don't have the time
:
00:51:47,556 --> 00:51:49,426
to watch four whole seasons of Airwolf.
:
00:51:49,436 --> 00:51:50,696
Like, are you insane?
:
00:51:51,626 --> 00:51:52,066
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:51:53,875 --> 00:51:55,345
Laura: It has been a really good time.
:
00:51:55,495 --> 00:51:58,535
So far, we have reached
season four of Airwolf,
:
00:51:58,815 --> 00:51:58,835
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:51:58,845 --> 00:51:59,685
In recording.
:
00:51:59,705 --> 00:52:00,085
Yeah.
:
00:52:00,365 --> 00:52:07,695
I think, I think the third episode came
out as of our conversation right now.
:
00:52:07,715 --> 00:52:09,155
The second episode came out.
:
00:52:09,715 --> 00:52:13,625
And by the time this airs, I think
you'll be on like five or six.
:
00:52:14,205 --> 00:52:18,415
So there'll still be a couple
episodes away from season four.
:
00:52:18,845 --> 00:52:20,115
Laura: It's fantastic.
:
00:52:20,225 --> 00:52:21,625
We're having so much fun.
:
00:52:21,965 --> 00:52:26,924
The unexpected thing that I found in
watching these shows with these two other
:
00:52:26,924 --> 00:52:34,724
ladies is that we can kind of see hints
of feminism that we didn't expect in the
:
00:52:34,724 --> 00:52:38,844
masculine show, and I don't know that
they always intended it to be there.
:
00:52:38,979 --> 00:52:42,689
Xhafer: So, I have watched exactly
one episode of Airwolf, and it
:
00:52:42,689 --> 00:52:44,539
was the one you guys just covered.
:
00:52:45,244 --> 00:52:45,414
Laura: Oh,
:
00:52:45,729 --> 00:52:49,999
Xhafer: With the, uh, The
hospital, and the amnesiac,
:
00:52:50,009 --> 00:52:55,779
and I will go out on a limb and say
that any feminism is accidental.
:
00:52:56,166 --> 00:52:56,606
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:52:56,656 --> 00:53:01,066
And so when you listen to that episode,
there's some other interesting things
:
00:53:01,106 --> 00:53:04,796
about it that I shared with the ladies
after I did a little bit of Googling.
:
00:53:04,826 --> 00:53:08,656
I tried to not do any too
spoilery Googling, but yeah.
:
00:53:08,984 --> 00:53:12,514
I think it's accidental, but when
you look back on the show with the
:
00:53:12,514 --> 00:53:18,144
today lens, with the things that we
know now and different understanding
:
00:53:18,144 --> 00:53:22,204
that we have of the universe, it's
like, oh, I see you stepped into
:
00:53:22,204 --> 00:53:24,054
something there that you didn't intend.
:
00:53:24,054 --> 00:53:27,204
And that's been a lot of fun,
like uncovering that and finding
:
00:53:27,824 --> 00:53:32,934
a little kernel of gold inside
of just a mountain of shit.
:
00:53:36,903 --> 00:53:37,193
yeah.
:
00:53:37,193 --> 00:53:39,873
so come on over to Cool Girls
Don't Look at Explosions.
:
00:53:39,873 --> 00:53:41,483
We're currently watching Airwolf.
:
00:53:41,513 --> 00:53:44,453
I think we haven't settled on
what we're gonna watch next.
:
00:53:44,513 --> 00:53:47,023
Um, there are lots of
contenders out there though.
:
00:53:47,023 --> 00:53:50,273
I've heard Miami Vice thrown
around as a thing we need to see.
:
00:53:50,823 --> 00:53:54,033
There was one episode of
Viper that launched it all.
:
00:53:54,163 --> 00:53:54,753
Um,
:
00:53:54,773 --> 00:53:57,103
Xhafer: Which we're covering
over on Last Time On right now.
:
00:53:57,478 --> 00:53:58,088
Laura: yes.
:
00:53:58,318 --> 00:53:58,708
Xhafer: and that.
:
00:53:58,708 --> 00:53:59,598
show's absurd.
:
00:54:00,618 --> 00:54:01,038
Laura: Ha ha ha
:
00:54:01,068 --> 00:54:04,128
Xhafer: It's so much, it's so much
more than I ever thought it could be.
:
00:54:05,668 --> 00:54:06,208
Laura: Brilliant.
:
00:54:06,258 --> 00:54:06,978
Wonderful.
:
00:54:06,988 --> 00:54:10,008
Yeah, we enjoyed, we had a great
time talking to each other about
:
00:54:10,008 --> 00:54:11,338
the episode of Viper we watched.
:
00:54:11,338 --> 00:54:12,898
So we were like, let's just keep doing it.
:
00:54:12,898 --> 00:54:14,498
Let's just watch a little more something.
:
00:54:15,078 --> 00:54:18,478
And it started with Airwolf, but we're
gonna keep it going with something else.
:
00:54:18,478 --> 00:54:20,558
So, come on over.
:
00:54:20,868 --> 00:54:23,218
Xhafer: Yeah, go check out Cool
Girls, don't look at explosions.
:
00:54:23,218 --> 00:54:27,508
You can find them on literally all the
podcatchers you can find this podcast
:
00:54:27,508 --> 00:54:29,048
that you're currently listening to on.
:
00:54:29,678 --> 00:54:32,228
Except for YouTube, to
be perfectly honest.
:
00:54:32,228 --> 00:54:33,378
I need to set that up for you guys.
:
00:54:33,378 --> 00:54:33,968
That's my B.
:
00:54:33,968 --> 00:54:35,838
I haven't done that yet.
:
00:54:35,978 --> 00:54:36,688
I need to do that.
:
00:54:37,172 --> 00:54:37,632
Laura: Yeah,
:
00:54:37,974 --> 00:54:38,964
Xhafer: But yeah go check him out.
:
00:54:38,984 --> 00:54:40,034
It's a lot of fun podcast.
:
00:54:40,034 --> 00:54:41,434
I really enjoyed the first two episodes.
:
00:54:42,014 --> 00:54:43,284
Laura: I have too.
:
00:54:43,364 --> 00:54:46,544
I don't go back and listen to
many episodes of things I record.
:
00:54:46,544 --> 00:54:50,364
We've had this discussion of
like, cannot stand to hear myself.
:
00:54:50,834 --> 00:54:53,394
But those ladies are just so funny.
:
00:54:53,444 --> 00:54:55,894
I just want to hear it again sometimes.
:
00:54:56,364 --> 00:54:57,634
Not that you and I aren't funny.
:
00:54:57,634 --> 00:55:02,154
Xhafer: I mean, we try That
hey, that should be our t
:
00:55:02,324 --> 00:55:02,544
Laura: ha.
:
00:55:02,544 --> 00:55:03,249
Ha, ha,
:
00:55:03,249 --> 00:55:03,601
ha.
:
00:55:03,601 --> 00:55:03,954
ha.
:
00:55:05,324 --> 00:55:08,134
Xhafer: Anyways uh, yeah,
no, it's been a lot of fun.
:
00:55:08,724 --> 00:55:15,114
It's nice to have a podcast with
people that I know that I'm not on.
:
00:55:17,134 --> 00:55:17,954
I appreciate it.
:
00:55:18,344 --> 00:55:18,654
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:55:19,864 --> 00:55:21,314
That's why I love Last Time On.
:
00:55:21,314 --> 00:55:23,514
Ha, ha, ha.
:
00:55:23,534 --> 00:55:25,454
Xhafer: yeah we should
probably say some thank yous.
:
00:55:25,874 --> 00:55:27,767
Thanks Jeremy for our theme music.
:
00:55:27,767 --> 00:55:28,557
We appreciate the hell out of it.
:
00:55:28,567 --> 00:55:31,737
You can find more of Jeremy's
work at JeremySegal42.
:
00:55:31,777 --> 00:55:32,337
bandcamp.
:
00:55:32,377 --> 00:55:35,297
com and on streaming
services as Nuclear Jaguar.
:
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,930
Laura: Oh, and I have a comprehensive list
:
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:41,060
of Jeremy's bands that he's
currently playing with.
:
00:55:42,190 --> 00:55:44,330
So, first up you have The Savants.
:
00:55:45,255 --> 00:55:47,955
Next up you have Persons Unknown.
:
00:55:47,955 --> 00:55:50,422
I don't know, man.
:
00:55:51,062 --> 00:55:53,832
And The Late Night Losers.
:
00:55:53,877 --> 00:55:55,157
Xhafer: Ugh, man.
:
00:55:55,247 --> 00:55:55,877
The Late Night Blues.
:
00:55:55,877 --> 00:55:56,917
This is a great band name.
:
00:55:57,653 --> 00:56:02,624
Laura: Uh, It feels
like, a ska band to me.
:
00:56:02,624 --> 00:56:05,794
I really want it to be a ska band
where he gets to trombone a lot.
:
00:56:05,929 --> 00:56:07,159
Xhafer: I hope it's a ska band.
:
00:56:08,149 --> 00:56:09,229
That's a great band name.
:
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,029
I love that.
:
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:11,499
That's up there with free beer.
:
00:56:12,794 --> 00:56:13,204
Laura: uh,
:
00:56:13,489 --> 00:56:14,499
Xhafer: that's a great band name.
:
00:56:15,844 --> 00:56:17,044
But go listen to Jeremy's music.
:
00:56:17,054 --> 00:56:18,764
You can't find any of mine online.
:
00:56:18,774 --> 00:56:19,474
It doesn't exist.
:
00:56:20,014 --> 00:56:20,324
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:56:20,624 --> 00:56:21,294
Jeremy's great.
:
00:56:21,764 --> 00:56:25,364
And thank you to Angry Dick Time Machine
on Instagram for our podcast artwork.
:
00:56:25,444 --> 00:56:28,444
Xhafer: Aaron put in some work
this time, didn't you, bud?
:
00:56:29,074 --> 00:56:29,744
Appreciate it.
:
00:56:30,034 --> 00:56:30,974
Sorry for all that.
:
00:56:31,434 --> 00:56:31,854
Laura: Oops.
:
00:56:31,984 --> 00:56:33,844
Xhafer: Thanks for editing
and making us sound coherent.
:
00:56:33,854 --> 00:56:34,594
We appreciate it.
:
00:56:34,887 --> 00:56:36,357
Laura: And thanks,
listener, for being here.
:
00:56:36,367 --> 00:56:40,167
If you want to join the conversation,
please find us at the Discord.
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It should be in your show notes.
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If it's not, whoareyoub5 at gmail.
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com.
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Xhafer: Get on that Discord.
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Maybe you can buy t shirts there.
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Laura: Yeah, maybe.
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I don't
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Xhafer: I'm gonna try.
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Ooh.
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We'll see what happens.
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All right, Internet.
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We'll see you next week.
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Laura: Bye.
