Episode 167

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Published on:

16th Apr 2025

BSG S2E1 - Wig Complaints (Featuring Ben from Last Time On)

The clock starts again as Laura and Xhafer return with a new season of BSG and a special guest, Ben, from Last Time On! Ben has issues with the quality of Galatrica's survival gear. Laura wonders if ChatGPT can handle calculating galactic drift. Xhafer warns everyone not to put the straw in the forbidden Capri Sun. Today's episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 2, Episode 1: Scattered.

Join us for more discussion on the discord @ https://discord.gg/MUHKDDk6TN

Transcript
Xhafer:

Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done

sci-fi watch cast hosted by two

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former strangers, now friends who are

currently making their way through

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2000 fours Battlestar Galactica.

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I'm Jair,

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Laura: And I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: and it's a season premier.

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You know what that means?

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We are once again joined by our friend.

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Ben: I am setting the clock to 33 minutes.

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It is, it is.

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Ben.

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Xhafer: Hey, guy

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Ben: Hey, I am so excited to be back,

especially for this episode, because

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who gets a lot to do this episode.

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My guy who I got had to remind

everybody who exists, captain Kelly.

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Xhafer: Oh

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Laura: yeah,

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yeah.

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Definitely had a, wait, who is this guy?

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Had a moment.

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Ben: And I was just like, oh

yes, it's the guy I had to remind

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everybody exists last time.

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is one of my favorite things about

Battlestar Galactica is people will

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disappear for 20 episodes and then

come back and it's like, alright.

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Laura: I was here on the

fleet the whole time.

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I was just doing the, doing some stuff.

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Ben: I, I was over here to the right

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Laura: Yeah.

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It's a little, little harder, I think, in

the setting to like write people out for

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a bit than, than JMS had on Babylon Five.

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Like he could just send

people off to Minbar.

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But there's like no minbar you

can just hang out on when you're,

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Xhafer: to go to.

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Laura: yeah.

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When you're running for your life.

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Ben: to be fair.

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didn't always do that.

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Like.

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Naau, we don't find out what

happened to Naau until retroactively,

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like, oh, she was captured.

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It's like, and Jaar never mentioned it.

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Laura: Yeah, he seems like the kind of guy

who might've been super upset about that.

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Ben: it seems like one of his, it would've

been high up on his list of grievances

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to uh, Lando every time he runs into him.

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Laura: Right.

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Xhafer: sure.

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Laura: Yeah.

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No.

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Okay, so it's been a minute Jair since

you and I recorded the last episode,

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so I need a little table setting again.

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There was lots of Christing

in the last episode.

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Starbuck went back to Caprica,

but she's still on Caprica.

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Ben: Had six duffs.

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Laura: 60 cups.

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I like that.

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That one.

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Did you, could you see it

like processing on my face?

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You've been waiting to use that,

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Ben: No, actually I came up with it in

the moment and I was very proud of myself.

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Laura: I'm very proud of you too, then.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: It can go in

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Laura: Okay.

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So we had, we had six Duffs

and also Sharon and Hilo.

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We've got Gais, chief Teel,

crash down, Callie, Cali,

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: and some guy who's

gonna kick it in this episode.

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Uh, Stuck.

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Xhafer: Uh, Ionis, Ionis.

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Laura: So sinus?

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Yeah,

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Xhafer: That's it.

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Tarn.

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Thank you.

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Ben: Who has the galaxy's only

surviving jar of hair grease.

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Laura: Yeah, yeah.

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And they're all on COBOL

and trying to survive that.

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So Sinus was the guy who.

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Tried to take the fall for

Chief Tyrell and Boomer, right?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So I imagine Chief Tyrell's

gonna have some feelings.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Ben: That's his main mode is feelings.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Good feelings, bad feelings.

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All feelings.

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He's in touch with his feelings,

but he also needs therapy.

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Laura: Yeah.

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He's like, he's made the first

step, but not the other steps.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He goes to therapy like three times

and he's like cured because he

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can talk about his feelings now.

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So that means that as a man, he

is a hundred percent okay, and

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no longer requires to talk or

do any further introspection.

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I.

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Outside of forcibly sharing

his feelings with everyone.

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Sorry, Ben, did you have something to say?

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Ben: No, that's what podcasts are for.

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J Fair.

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Xhafer: Why do you think so many

middle-aged white men have podcasts?

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It costs the same as therapy.

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Ben: That's not true.

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Xhafer: It depends on

your insurance and your

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Laura: mean it depends

on your insurance plan.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Ben: Yeah.

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So we've got that.

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Then we've got our showdown

between Adama and Rosalyn

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Ben: that has ended, kind of.

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Laura: It's been interrupted

for sure by totally.

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Other thing.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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Had to remind myself where we're at.

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Ben: And then Boomer comes

back, successful mission shots.

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Shot, shot, shot shots with Adama.

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Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot.

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Xhafer: Which is right where we

open up uh, right where we left off.

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Laura: Literally on our Christ pose.

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Yes.

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Come cone

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Xhafer: it's like it was built

for streaming despite it not

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being built for streaming.

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Ben: And I will say I enjoyed watching

this with you guys, but I had to

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instinctively be like, oh, I don't

have to skip the recap, because I was

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like diving for the, the skip recap

button, because last time on we're not

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Xhafer: No recaps

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Ben: Uh,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Force of habit.

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Ben: oh, I, I can watch this.

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It's fine.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I wrote last time on this

shit is fucking crazy.

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They must have cut it

together very, very well.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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They did a pretty good job.

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Uh, And you know, you

didn't have to wait a year.

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So enjoy that.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I take great relief in not

having to wait a year for that.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: God.

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We'll see.

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Maybe, maybe we'll do another

show right in between season.

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What is it?

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W we, I,

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Ben: Four and 4.5.

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Xhafer: Five, I think was

the giant last, like the, the

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big, big, big, big, big twist.

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Laura: Dang.

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Xhafer: yeah, and then they took a year

off there, so more than I think, 'cause

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there was a writer strike in there, so

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Laura: Ouch.

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That's rough.

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Xhafer: maybe.

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Yeah, maybe we'll just do a whole

nother show and then come back to it.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Ben: Yeah.

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Go and watch uh, heroes and talk about

which show came back from the writer.

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Strike better.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: I don't

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Laura: I think it's not heroes.

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I

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did watch that one.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: No.

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All right.

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So, uh, Ty is flashing back.

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Here he does, he does this

throughout the whole episode.

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But

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Laura: Oh,

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Xhafer: this starts, uh,

to his history with Adama

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Laura: Uhhuh,

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Xhafer: as he orders Boomer

to be taken to the Bri.

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Ben: And we

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find that there is no RO

gain in, the colonies,

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Laura: We gotta talk about the

flashbacks because the wigs

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and mustaches are killing it.

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Ben: it's, it's awful.

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no idea how old these

people are supposed to be.

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Xhafer: I wish we knew how

old they were supposed to be.

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Like I literally, I literally in the

episode of last time on that aired.

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The week or two before this, when we did

our April Fools prank, I go on a whole

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tangent about how I would rather them just

use old actors and not acknowledge the

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age gap than do that stupid aging CGI.

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That always takes me out of it or recast.

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And I found myself eating my words fucking

immediately upon watching this scene.

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'cause I have no idea how old

these people are supposed to be.

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Ben: That said, the other side of

that is they do that in the flashback

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episode of It's Always Sunny, where they

have 70-year-old Danny DeVito playing,

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19-year-old Frank Reynolds, and it's the

funniest damn thing you've ever seen.

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Laura: No, I have to believe

that the two actors were

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cracking up over their mustache

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and wigs.

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Like

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Xhafer: to have been.

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Laura: they, they almost have like

a little twinkle in their eye.

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Like, yeah, I know this is stupid,

but let's all roll with it.

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Like

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Ben: I hope so.

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Xhafer: I will say, um, so I think

I've mentioned it on here, and Ben,

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I believe you're present for it.

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I do an annual Power Pint party

where everyone does drunk PowerPoints

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Ben: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: Right?

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Xhafer: and um, the fifth

annual is actually upon us now.

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We'll, we'll get to that.

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I, I've to schedule it still.

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Laura: Uh,

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Xhafer: But We have someone in our

friend group who is a professional

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stylist and like, she specializes in

like hair dye and hair alteration stuff.

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Um, it's, it's, it is a step

above just like haircut stuff.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: and she did 20 minutes

on identifying wigs in.

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TV and movies and like how to

tell if it is a good wig or a

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bad wig and all of this stuff.

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And like, it was crazy and it

completely changed how I consume media.

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Laura: okay.

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I need you to just make yourself a little

note right now that you need to show her

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that very last episode of Air Wolf that

had the original Air Wolf team, and I need

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to know if Archangel is wearing a wig.

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Xhafer: Um, look for a scalp,

that's almost always the key sign.

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If there's a part in the hair, that's

also another way because it's very tough

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to do scalp showing parts with wigs.

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Laura: Okay.

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Gotcha.

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Ben: But we get this very nebulous

flashback of, Adama meeting tie,

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and we don't know when it is.

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We don't know where it is.

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I'm actually like, I did a lot of

mental lifting trying to figure out

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like, what the hell's going on here?

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And it's one of those times

where I'm just like, I wish

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they just explained something.

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Laura: Yeah,

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Ben: Because I know they.

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do mystery.

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Like if we can go back to it later and

it's just like, no, just tell us like,

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hey, the, the Silent War ended and a

bunch of people got fired because we

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don't need everybody in the army anymore.

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And so everybody lost their jobs and now

we're stuck on this shitty freighter.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I, I was thinking it had to

be maybe like 20 years ago.

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I don't know.

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Xhafer: mean, the Silent

War was 50 years ago.

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Laura: Right.

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Ben: n no,

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Laura: It's 40 or 50.

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Right.

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Ben: there's no way they're that old.

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I thought it was,

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Laura: I

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Ben: I,

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thought it was 20 years ago.

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Laura: oh, I, I took it as more than 20.

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'cause like Lee would've been a

baby and I thought Lee wasn't around

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when the first silent war happened.

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I don't know.

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I guess, I don't know,

and I can't Google it, so

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Ben: Yeah,

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Laura: here we are.

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Xhafer: I am 40 years.

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Ben: it was 40 years between

the Silent War and, okay.

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Laura: Yeah.

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They they did establish it

during the, um, mini series,

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Xhafer: and the war lasted 12 years.

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So the start of the war would've been 52

years ago, which is what I was thinking

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because it was the anniversary of

Colonial Day, which was the, the, they

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said, they gave us the timeframe then,

which is where my 50 was coming from,

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Ben: Okay.

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Laura: And Colonial Day was,

was when they all came together

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Xhafer: to fight the silences.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Ben: Okay.

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So I guess Ty and Adama are

supposed to be older than I thought.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I'm, I'm taking them both as like,

well, I guess I'm taking a DMA as

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older than Ty is how I'm reading

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Ben: But they would both, if their

veterans have to be, like, if they

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were fighting the silent war in

their twenties, they'd be 60 minimum

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah, I was kind

of taking it that way.

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I was taking Adamas in his sixties for

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sure.

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Maybe Ty a couple years younger.

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Ben: with having a, how

old do we think Apollo is?

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Xhafer: like 25, 30.

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Laura: Yeah, max.

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Ben: so like 25.

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That means you had old dad,

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which,

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Laura: And that's a thing

happens to people all the time.

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Ben: Might explain their,

their strenuous relationship.

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Xhafer: If Adama is 65 and Lee is 30, then

that means Adama was 35 when Lee was born.

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Ben: Yeah.

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Xhafer: I mean, that's that old dad.

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Ben: Well, no, but it means like 50,

you know, in their fifties during

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like high school graduation, like

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not out playing, tackle

football with the kids' age.

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Um, it's not like old dad,

like, is that your grandpa?

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Like, but it's just like it can lead

to a more strenuous relationship.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I mean, my dad was nine

on 40 when I was born, so,

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Laura: Aaron's dad was 45.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Ben: I can't imagine

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Laura: He did get that a

lot, that his parents were

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mistaken for his grandparents.

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'cause his mom was 40,

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Ben: who shows up on the bridge.

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Captain Kelly.

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Xhafer: captain Kelly

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shows up, LSO, Aaron Kelly here.

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Is Ty gets a lot of decisions

thrown at him very fast.

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He puts Lee in the Bri.

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when KZ Kelly shows up, he is

acting XO to Ty's Acting Co.

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And while this is all going

on, a Bay Star jumps in.

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So Ty orders the fleet to jump to

the emergency rendezvous coordinates.

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Laura: Uh Huh.

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Xhafer: At this point,

Lee gets put in the brick.

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He catches Roslyn up on the

events in CIC as the fleet.

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Then Galactica perform their emergency

jump before we waste any CGI budget.

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Um, the cy when Galactica jumps back

in though the fleet isn't there, we get

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this great zoom out shot of the bridge.

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Just pulling out,

pulling out, pulling out.

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We see Galactica, we

expect to see the fleet.

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We expect it, it's just empty space.

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Laura: Nothing.

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Xhafer: shot.

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Laura: We had some important

establishing information that.

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Doc Coddle was 15 minutes away before they

left, and now he is more than 15 minutes

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away.

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Xhafer: he is.

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He is quite far away as we'll.

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Discuss when we find out what happened,

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Ben: And I want to ask you guys, who do we

think has had the worst last 10 minutes?

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Xhafer: Lee.

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Ben: Because

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Laura: Are you giving me

options or you just want me to

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Ben: just general, like

Lee, like one Adama shot

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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But he's probably not conscious

right now, so it's hard to have a

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bad time when you're not conscious.

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Ben: everybody on Galactica

uh, oh, we've lost the fleet.

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There are a few people who are

like, we're gonna find out, like

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are wondering is this my fault?

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Uh, We've got Ty who's suddenly

like, alright, your acting commander,

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your best friend was shot and

you've lost the fleet after having

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to arrest your best friend's son.

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bad 10 minutes.

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You've got Roslyn who's like, I kind

of did a coup, but then I backed out of

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the coup, almost instantly got arrested.

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The person who cooed me got shot.

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And so if I like held out for another 10

minutes, maybe I wouldn't have been cooed.

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and then we've got poor Lee

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Laura: yeah.

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I, I'd say G is having

a bad time too, 'cause

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he's clearly freaking out.

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Uh,

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Xhafer: a bad

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day.

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Laura: I think Ty is very, extremely

aware from the second that things

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start going wrong when Adam gets shot.

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That he has been failed upward

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at, beyond his competency,

beyond his comfort zone.

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And it is a big.

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Big, bad feeling, right?

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: I mean, I think I'd ultimately

go with Lee, but Ty's right

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behind because you, you know that

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he knows he's

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not competent

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Xhafer: reason why I feel like Lee is

having a worse time than Ty right now.

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I feel like Ty is, is in

the shit deeper for sure.

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Ben: but he has

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agency.

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Xhafer: agency.

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and Lee has all of his agency

removed in the middle of this crisis

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that he, it would probably be a

great person to have on hand for

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Laura: Yeah.

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Ben: Lee unfortunately executed some

agency just as the person he's like,

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alright, I'm gonna throw everything away.

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I'm gonna defend this person and she

immediately is just like, nah, I give up.

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It's like, you could have given up 20

minutes ago before we schlep our asses

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in a raptor and came over here, lady.

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Xhafer: through the fucking hole.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Ben: God dammit, Lauren,

not you, Laura, other Laura.

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Laura: I, I took your meaning.

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Yes, yes.

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Yeah.

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It's a, it is a real bad situation.

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Bad, cold, open.

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No greatest contact to theme.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Ben: if if I would ever allow my

phone to play a notification again,

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having my text notification be

gada going, greatest as contact,

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Laura: That's

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pretty good.

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Xhafer: That'd be a good one.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: You never will vibrate for

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Ben: No, God, no.

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Xhafer: But

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After theme, we cut back to the

dreamscape where gaas is all Well, you

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mean metaphorically I'm the father,

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Laura: right.

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Ben: Because you are not real.

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Xhafer: Like, we didn't bother with

dream protection during all of the

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dream fucking, because I didn't

know Dream Babies was on the table.

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And if Dream Babies is on the table, we

have to have a whole other conversation.

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Laura: Well, I mean, he's

forgetting that in the miniseries.

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She was real

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Xhafer: Yeah, but that's,

that Caprica is dead.

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Laura: well

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to

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Ben: we never see her dead, but I firmly,

we see her like, take a nuclear blast.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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She shields gais with her body,

430

:

Laura: Mm.

431

:

Okay.

432

:

All right.

433

:

Xhafer: Ri to get six BT

Preggers from Dream Semen.

434

:

Laura: Is this just what he

like subconsciously wants

435

:

Ben: Or this is the neurosyphilis

436

:

Laura: the neurosyphilis.

437

:

Ben: that, that's late stage syphilis.

438

:

That's what kills you.

439

:

Laura: Hmm.

440

:

Ben: it gets to your brain and

Gais was throwing it around there.

441

:

Laura: Yeah.

442

:

I mean, if anybody outta this cast

or this, you know, set of characters

443

:

is gonna have that at this point.

444

:

If I have to like throw a, a guess

out there, it's our man Gais.

445

:

Yeah.

446

:

Xhafer: For sure.

447

:

Laura: He's pretty gross.

448

:

But he starts to realize

none of this is real.

449

:

Right.

450

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

451

:

As Cali stumbles upon him mumbling.

452

:

Laura: yeah.

453

:

Poor Callie uh, crash down is gonna

take him to the tree line, right.

454

:

To

455

:

Ben: Yeah.

456

:

So we hear a sound in in the sky.

457

:

And this, this bit annoys me

because crash down is 100% correct.

458

:

Hey, there's a noise that means a landing

party can be here in like 60 seconds.

459

:

We gotta go.

460

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

461

:

Ben: But Tyrell is just like, but we

gotta like look through all of our stuff.

462

:

And I'm just like, why

did you guys not do that

463

:

in the intermediate stage between Raptor

and wherever the hell you are right now?

464

:

Laura: Yeah.

465

:

It's nebulous.

466

:

We don't know how much time has passed.

467

:

Yeah.

468

:

Xhafer: Hours.

469

:

Ben: see two of the worst

survival backpacks I've ever seen,

470

:

Xhafer: Oh yeah.

471

:

They're just, they're not Jan

Sports, but they may as well be,

472

:

Ben: and only two people have them.

473

:

And I'm just like, why are

you going on an like a.

474

:

Landing supply survey mission and

everybody doesn't have everything already

475

:

in backpacks and like duffles, like

why is there no duffle bag in space?

476

:

And it just made me so mad at

whoever, like was the supply

477

:

officer for this mission.

478

:

Like I understand you weren't

planning on getting shot down.

479

:

Everything should be in a bag ready to go.

480

:

Laura: I mean in this universe,

I think we should always be

481

:

planning on being shot down.

482

:

Like that being a non-zero possibility.

483

:

Right?

484

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

485

:

And it's like, it's, it's double

frustrating for me because they

486

:

wear these like tight tank tops and

have like absolutely no storage.

487

:

Laura: Oh yeah.

488

:

We need pockets everywhere.

489

:

Just pockets on our pockets.

490

:

Xhafer: On pockets.

491

:

On pockets.

492

:

Right?

493

:

Like you should be carrying so much

shit on you when you walk off that ship.

494

:

It's just, it's like, I get it

for Star Trek because they just

495

:

materialize whatever they need and

they can move it to their hands.

496

:

Like whatever.

497

:

Like it makes sense that

Starlee doesn't have pockets.

498

:

Laura: This is a universe

where paper is still important.

499

:

You need places to put shit.

500

:

Xhafer: Yep.

501

:

Laura: The cool girls, when we were

all in Vegas last year happened to run

502

:

into some military men several times.

503

:

Like in the elevator.

504

:

There was some sort of military

conference happening at the same

505

:

time and they had like ankle pockets

on their pants, like cargo pants

506

:

that had pockets down at the ankle.

507

:

We need those pants.

508

:

Xhafer: So many

509

:

Ben: I've got a new outdoor

vest that has easy 20 pockets.

510

:

Xhafer: Hell

511

:

yeah.

512

:

You're so prepared, hypothetically.

513

:

Laura: Yeah.

514

:

Ben: And like I know these are space guns.

515

:

I do not see a single bandelier anywhere.

516

:

I do not see a single

spare magazine anywhere.

517

:

Laura: Bandelier are so cool

518

:

Ben: you are at war guys.

519

:

Xhafer: The ammo question is one that

I find myself continually asking of

520

:

Battlestar Galactica, like the size

of the shells that galactica fires,

521

:

and at the rate that it fires them.

522

:

It probably fires a galactica

full of bullets every encounter.

523

:

Laura: Do they have like

a 3D printer for bullets?

524

:

Like we just put all of our spare

crap in there as we're using

525

:

stuff and it just 3D prints these

526

:

Xhafer: It's still mass,

527

:

Laura: I know.

528

:

I

529

:

Xhafer: I mean, maybe.

530

:

Laura: Okay.

531

:

Back on Galactica.

532

:

Ty has gone to his quarters to

get changed and Ellen Ty is all,

533

:

but where is the fleet, Todd?

534

:

She helps him change into some less

bloody pants, and he tells her about

535

:

how the fleet makes jumps together.

536

:

And as he's, he's doing this

for the audience, right?

537

:

Obviously, like we, we needed to know

more about the jumps to order to get from

538

:

point A to point B, but I am sitting here

going, you should not be telling her this.

539

:

Xhafer: Well, it's like.

540

:

They say they update them every hour to

compensate for galactic drift, right?

541

:

Do you know what, how

much galactic drift is?

542

:

Laura: I assumed it was a made up thing

543

:

Xhafer: No.

544

:

No.

545

:

Galactic drift is very real.

546

:

Our the Milky Way galaxy, which we'll

use as the example here because we

547

:

know these things 'cause it's where we

are and we can measure it pretty easy.

548

:

How fast do you think the Milky Way galaxy

is moving through the universe right now?

549

:

Ben: Real fast,

550

:

Xhafer: Throw, throw out

a mile per hour, guess

551

:

Laura: a thousand miles per hour.

552

:

Xhafer: a thousand miles per hour choices.

553

:

1.3

554

:

million miles per hour

555

:

Ben: Damn.

556

:

Xhafer: fast the Milky Way is

moving through the universe,

557

:

Laura: Wow.

558

:

Xhafer: which means in an hour.

559

:

Of galactic drift, not being

compensated for the fleet is 1.3

560

:

million miles away.

561

:

Assuming that galactic drift is a

constant for Battlestar Galactica as

562

:

it is for the current day Milky Way,

563

:

Ben: Well, they're looking for Earth,

so I'm assuming they're in the Milky

564

:

Xhafer: Well, yeah.

565

:

But also there's like a bunch of other

stuff that goes into like we are,

566

:

the Milky Way today is moving 1.3

567

:

million miles per hour.

568

:

Right.

569

:

So there's other stuff that goes into it.

570

:

Ben: well.

571

:

Yeah, and it's spinning and moving

and it's the sort of thing where

572

:

it's just like if you ever invented

a time machine, you'd also need a

573

:

Xhafer: Which is exactly what

I talked about in the Dr.

574

:

Who episode is you have to a

time machine cannot just be.

575

:

A time machine?

576

:

Like there's a couple of very specific

ones that would probably still, like

577

:

the ones where like you send your

consciousness back instead of actually

578

:

physically moving through time.

579

:

Those would still probably work.

580

:

The, the fact that you can do that

means that consciousness or magic

581

:

or something anyways, so whatever.

582

:

Um, but if your time machine

does not also move you through

583

:

space, it is fucking useless.

584

:

If I were to travel back in time an hour

right now and be sitting in my chair where

585

:

it was an hour ago, I have to travel 1.3

586

:

million miles in addition to

moving an hour back in time.

587

:

Good fucking luck.

588

:

Laura: That makes the Futurama time

machine extra fun to think about.

589

:

There's a, a newer Futurama

episode with the time machine.

590

:

I don't know if you've seen that one.

591

:

Xhafer: No.

592

:

Ben: Yes,

593

:

Laura: I, I thought I could trust

Ben to have my back on this one.

594

:

Xhafer: I have seen maybe

20 episodes of Futurama.

595

:

Ben: it's so good.

596

:

It's the best

597

:

Xhafer: I, I, I've enjoyed

everyone I've watched.

598

:

I've just never sat down to watch it.

599

:

Laura: Wow.

600

:

Okay.

601

:

We can still be friends.

602

:

Xhafer: good.

603

:

Hey,

604

:

Laura: We'll, we'll do a path analysis

through Ben that we're still friends.

605

:

Xhafer: I'm just saying, you know, we

need to pick another sci-fi show after

606

:

Laura: yeah.

607

:

True,

608

:

Xhafer: Futurama might be a fun choice.

609

:

Laura: I'm always down.

610

:

Ben: So then we cut back to Rosalyn,

who's being informed, Hey, we jumped away.

611

:

And she's like, but then how will

Starbuck get back to us with the arrow?

612

:

It's like, well, there was a bass

star that was going to kill us all.

613

:

It's like, that doesn't matter.

614

:

We need the arrow.

615

:

And it's just like,

616

:

Laura Rosalyn, please.

617

:

Xhafer: I see why they're calling

you a religious fanatic now.

618

:

Ben: Yeah.

619

:

Laura: yeah.

620

:

without Starbuck here to like confirm

some things, it's really difficult

621

:

to take Laura Rosalyn seriously.

622

:

Ben: And then we get just people

arguing and yelling, and we find

623

:

out, you know, principles are really,

really hard to have in the apocalypse.

624

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

625

:

Ben: It's just,

626

:

Laura: yeah.

627

:

Ben: I get it.

628

:

I, I get why people are doing what

they're doing, and we get like principles

629

:

versus like absolute pragmatism.

630

:

And it's like, yeah, but

where's, where's it getting you?

631

:

Laura: Yeah, I mean, speaking

of lack of principles in the

632

:

apocalypse, like we're seeing it

in that previous scene with Ellen.

633

:

She's ending it trying to convince Ty that

this is like, this is your moment, man.

634

:

You're taking over the ship.

635

:

What if a do dies?

636

:

And Ty of course knows he's not competent

for this and really needs Adama to live.

637

:

Ben: Well, and this is

part of why Ellen is great

638

:

Xhafer: Uh.

639

:

Ben: She is a wonderful example

of why a pure pragmatist in

640

:

an apocalypse is a nightmare.

641

:

Laura: Yeah.

642

:

Yeah.

643

:

She is a nightmare.

644

:

Ben: what does this mean for me?

645

:

And it's like, how about we

don't worry about that right now?

646

:

This is the apocalypse

US matters a lot more.

647

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

648

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

649

:

So, Ty Gada and Kelly talk solutions

here in finding the fleet the best

650

:

being impossible, they can jump

back and wait 12 hours for the

651

:

computer to be able to do the math.

652

:

I will just say that is an incredible

amount of math to do in 12 hours.

653

:

I know we look at Galactica computers

and go, how quaint that is an absurd

654

:

amount of math to do in 12 hours to

calculate a galactic drift differential.

655

:

Fucking yikes.

656

:

Um, you're talking about needing to know

the mass of every solar object in 1.3

657

:

square mile, well, a radius of 1.3

658

:

square miles of the galaxy.

659

:

To be able to properly and accurately

calculate that, which is absurd,

660

:

to have that knowledge and then

to be able to math that knowledge.

661

:

Fucking fuck guys.

662

:

This

663

:

Laura: You, you're telling me

chat, GPT won't do that for me.

664

:

Xhafer: fucking,

665

:

Ben: That's sad.

666

:

You know how far away, the 1.3

667

:

million,

668

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

669

:

Ben: I feel like they could jump

back and get close enough that

670

:

they're like, alright, we're,

you know, seven hours away.

671

:

Xhafer: yeah.

672

:

Well they would know where the fleet

went, like, 'cause they have the

673

:

coordinates that the fleet used to jump.

674

:

So if you jump back and then jump to the

ones that you should have jumped to the

675

:

first time, hypothetically, you wouldn't

be, you'd have the couple of minutes of

676

:

galactic drift to deal with, which is a

bunch, you know, but it's also not 1.3

677

:

million miles.

678

:

Ben: It's also like we're at

spaceship scale, you know?

679

:

But we then now go back to COBOL

where they are trudging and we get

680

:

break time where they hear burbs.

681

:

Xhafer: Burbs.

682

:

Those aren't burbs.

683

:

Those are, those burbs aren't real.

684

:

Everyone knows burbs aren't real.

685

:

Those are silence.

686

:

Ben: Burbs are silent.

687

:

Well then we hear a tarn,

688

:

Xhafer: Yes.

689

:

Ben: which is also a kind of burb.

690

:

Xhafer: Signs of life from that tarn

691

:

Ben: but then so, Tarn has

forgotten our second med kit.

692

:

And so, so sinus is dying without it.

693

:

And crash.

694

:

And I was like, all right, Tarn, you

go back for it 'cause you screwed up.

695

:

And Tyrell has to be like, alright, well

send me and Cali back along with him.

696

:

And Cali is just like, what the fuck dude?

697

:

Laura: Yeah.

698

:

Yeah.

699

:

So does that mean crash downs just

here with the injured guy by himself?

700

:

Ben: And our medic

701

:

Laura: Oh, we have a

702

:

Ben: and, and uh,

703

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

704

:

Laura: Oh and Baltar, right?

705

:

I forgot about Baltar

706

:

Ben: But then the thing that

makes me so mad is they're like,

707

:

alright, we're going back for the

stuff, Cali, leave your backpack.

708

:

And it's like, no, you're going back to

all the stuff like empty the backpack

709

:

and then take the empty backpacks.

710

:

And when you go to get the MET

kit, fill backpack with things

711

:

is what backpack is good for.

712

:

Xhafer: Just take as much shit as you can.

713

:

Grab the med pack, grab

other miscellaneous things.

714

:

Don't worry about what,

just fucking grab it.

715

:

Ben: Yeah,

716

:

Xhafer: You can figure that

717

:

out

718

:

Ben: a whole lot of

superfluous shit on a raptor.

719

:

Laura: yeah, yeah.

720

:

Ben: You're not gonna get back and be

like, oh man, this is just napkins,

721

:

Xhafer: tar.

722

:

Why'd you bring your vinyl

collection down with you?

723

:

Laura: I believe he would do that.

724

:

Ben: baltar, this, Ammo

case is just full of lube.

725

:

What's going on?

726

:

What do you think you're

gonna find down here?

727

:

Laura: Yeah.

728

:

now you've got me wondering

if we have S birds out there.

729

:

If the birds are just spies.

730

:

Silence.

731

:

B

732

:

Ben: real.

733

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

734

:

Birds aren't real.

735

:

Laura: Hmm.

736

:

Oh boy.

737

:

Ben: But that does lead to like an A

thing where it's, this will come up later

738

:

where it's just like, okay, so we've,

when we find out what happens to co what,

739

:

what happened to cobal, it is, at least

there are plants, there is animal life.

740

:

Laura: Okay.

741

:

Ben: this is the most hospitable place

they have found since all of this started.

742

:

Laura: Yeah.

743

:

But we cannot stay here.

744

:

Yeah.

745

:

Ben: it like that, where it's just

like, do whatever you can to stay here.

746

:

Laura: Yeah.

747

:

But I mean, if, if the silence know

where it is, like, doesn't seem like

748

:

staying here is a very good option.

749

:

Xhafer: Yeah, there's at

least been a bay star around.

750

:

So safe bet that the s are

checking this place out as one

751

:

of the habitable honeypots that

one could possibly settle into.

752

:

Laura: Yeah.

753

:

Xhafer: I think there's some stuff

that we haven't gotten yet to about it.

754

:

I think there's some prophecy stuff

about Cobol being like, cursed,

755

:

Ben: Kirsten.

756

:

Xhafer: because Adam is all

like, we should settle here.

757

:

And Rosalyn is immediately like,

what are you fucking talking about?

758

:

Like, it was never an option in her mind.

759

:

So I think, I think we get

that in a future episode.

760

:

Slight spoily.

761

:

Laura: Yeah, no, it seems like

we left here for a reason, right?

762

:

Ben: But birds are able to survive now.

763

:

Laura: yeah.

764

:

yeah.

765

:

Ben: humans

766

:

Laura: are things,

767

:

Ben: live now.

768

:

Laura: right, but, but there's

something bad about this place.

769

:

I definitely felt that in the vibes.

770

:

Xhafer: There.

771

:

I mean, yes.

772

:

Ben: and then back on Caprica,

our six is taking a nap.

773

:

Rika

774

:

Laura: You did prepare

775

:

that one.

776

:

Ben: I did prepare that one.

777

:

And we get this weird conversation

between SB and Hilo and uh, Sharon,

778

:

Xhafer: We say Star Bees on this podcast.

779

:

Laura: Oh, I I write SBUs though.

780

:

It's true.

781

:

That's my, my notation.

782

:

Ben: But just this whole like Hilo,

like I believe she's pregnant and she's

783

:

like, I'm with, with star Bes here.

784

:

Like.

785

:

Shut up dude.

786

:

Laura: Yeah.

787

:

Yeah,

788

:

Ben: carrying my child and

it's like, where's a doctor?

789

:

Show me a, show me a pregnancy test.

790

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

791

:

Ben: there is enough.

792

:

Not destroyed Caprica, they

could have gone to a pharmacy.

793

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

794

:

There's a CVS somewhere.

795

:

Laura: Even ignoring all that,

like it's been 50 something days,

796

:

right?

797

:

So you might be a little trauma bonded

by this experience, and you can be trauma

798

:

bonded to someone who is not good for you.

799

:

That's a real thing.

800

:

Xhafer: Hundo Hondo.

801

:

Laura: So, yeah, I'm with Star Beasts too.

802

:

Like, I am not sure we should

totally trust this thing.

803

:

Uh

804

:

Ben: From Sagittarian syndrome.

805

:

Laura: hmm.

806

:

Yeah, I I understood that reference.

807

:

Ben: Yeah.

808

:

Xhafer: Well this is all going on.

809

:

We get an all time classic line.

810

:

We hear Starbucks Raider take off,

811

:

Laura: Yeah.

812

:

I needed a check here.

813

:

Xhafer: Okay.

814

:

Laura: Does Sharon have Arrow?

815

:

She's got Raider.

816

:

Does she have Arrow?

817

:

Ben: No

818

:

Laura: Okay.

819

:

Xhafer: Uh,

820

:

Laura: Star Be has Arrow.

821

:

Xhafer: Stary says the

arrow, Sharon is with them.

822

:

That six took the Raider, not Sharon.

823

:

Ben: No, Sharon took the Raider.

824

:

Xhafer: Sharon took the Raider.

825

:

Ben: Six is

826

:

Laura: took the Raider.

827

:

Xhafer: Oh,

828

:

Laura: Yeah.

829

:

Six is Con uh, consciousness was being

sent to another body or something.

830

:

So Sharon and then Star, BES

and Hilo are arguing and then

831

:

Sharon fucks off with the Raider.

832

:

Ben: Because Star's was pointing

a gun at her, and she's like,

833

:

Hey, understandably, fuck this.

834

:

Laura: Self preservation

protocol activated.

835

:

Even if, one, one of us is wrong,

we'll find out in the next episode.

836

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

837

:

we

838

:

don't see any more with

this, this episode.

839

:

I don't think so.

840

:

Laura: Yeah.

841

:

Uh, So we've got,

842

:

Xhafer: Our medic in capper because

med lab gets promoted to surgeon

843

:

uh, field promotion to surgeon.

844

:

That's totally how that works guys.

845

:

Ben: Mm-hmm.

846

:

Laura: yeah.

847

:

Super not concerning or worrisome at

all for that professional individual.

848

:

Xhafer: Ty goes to see Boomer and I guess

interrogate her and manages a question and

849

:

a half before it just moves to violence.

850

:

Laura: Yeah.

851

:

Ben: But it does, she does give one a

couple of interesting answers where sh

852

:

where Ty is like, who gave the order?

853

:

And she's like, nobody, that's

not how this works, bro.

854

:

Um, like, I don't know, I just, I

didn't even remember doing it, man.

855

:

Laura: Yeah.

856

:

I, I was pretty out of the whole thing.

857

:

I don't know what to tell you.

858

:

Interesting that as they're

devolving into just violence.

859

:

she asks about Adama and he says,

you know, you, you've screwed up.

860

:

He's not dead, and she thinks the gods.

861

:

Ben: Mm-hmm.

862

:

Laura: So she's still like human enough

in her meats that she's the polytheist

863

:

Xhafer: Yes.

864

:

Ben: Now Laura, I have a question for you.

865

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

866

:

Ben: Do you think Boomer was trying to

kill Adama or just shoot him Because

867

:

she, shoot, she's right there.

868

:

Shoots him twice in the belly.

869

:

We know Cylons super strong, super fast.

870

:

She didn't even need a gun.

871

:

She could have just snapped his neck.

872

:

She could have like ripped his throat

out and choke, slammed him before

873

:

anybody else could have responded.

874

:

Laura: She certainly

could have had better aim.

875

:

We know that the like crucial

things that will knock you out

876

:

the fastest are not in the belly.

877

:

Ben: Exactly.

878

:

Laura: It, it's suspicious for sure.

879

:

I don't know if she's just a

defective silent, who was fighting her

880

:

programming so hard that she missed,

or if this is all part of the plan,

881

:

I feel like you've got enough

evidence on either side.

882

:

You can argue whichever

point is your favorite.

883

:

Yeah, I don't know if I have a favorite.

884

:

Yeah.

885

:

She calls Ty a coward in here too,

886

:

which

887

:

Xhafer: he

888

:

Laura: I mean, I don't know, man.

889

:

Not convinced.

890

:

You're not a coward Colonel, Ty.

891

:

Ben: I've seen how his wife treats him.

892

:

She's got him pegged.

893

:

Laura: Yeah.

894

:

Xhafer: So,

895

:

On cobol on the way back with

the med kit, Tarn gets got by

896

:

some shooters on the ridge.

897

:

Ben: And Tarn has the reaction

time of a grandma in an Oldsmobile

898

:

here like they are getting shot

at for a good five seconds, where

899

:

he's just like, what's going on?

900

:

I need to wait for my

blood packs to explode.

901

:

Laura: Yeah.

902

:

Yeah.

903

:

Terl like picks him up and

carries him away, doesn't

904

:

Xhafer: tries to get him to some

cover and Tarn dies before anything

905

:

can be done to help him as Cali pulls

GA went away to return to the group.

906

:

Ben: whatever silences are shooting

at them, just don't follow them.

907

:

Xhafer: I mean, yes, that's

definitely what happens.

908

:

We don't see them at all either.

909

:

We have no

910

:

idea what's going on here.

911

:

Ben: Mm-hmm.

912

:

Laura: Right.

913

:

Ben: I will say this is advanced

silent tactics because where

914

:

are the silents shooting from

915

:

Xhafer: The high

916

:

Ben: top of a

917

:

Laura: The, the ridge.

918

:

Yeah.

919

:

Ben: Which means our, our people are

920

:

below them.

921

:

These are silents that can look down.

922

:

Laura: oh,

923

:

Xhafer: oh, they figured it out.

924

:

Laura: Oh no.

925

:

Well, the game has just

926

:

changed.

927

:

If we can look down now.

928

:

Oh no.

929

:

Ben: yeah.

930

:

Laura: Yeah, so back on Galactica

G is washing up and sees Dawaa.

931

:

She tries to comfort him.

932

:

You know, it's not your fault.

933

:

He is taking it hard, but then he looks

at the soap and has an idea why the soap.

934

:

Xhafer: It's the soap next

to the other soap, I think.

935

:

Laura: yeah.

936

:

I think he makes a little

chain of soaps, maybe

937

:

Ben: he

938

:

does.

939

:

Laura: that's right.

940

:

I

941

:

Ben: And most of the

942

:

times when people make chains of soap

surround me, it's before I get beat with

943

:

soap in a sock.

944

:

Laura: I am sorry Ben.

945

:

Xhafer: Yikes.

946

:

So earlier when

947

:

we were talking about therapy,

948

:

Ben: What?

949

:

That wasn't part of everybody's

just growing up experience.

950

:

Xhafer: so, yeah, gada is

uh, putting this all together

951

:

here, the networked computers.

952

:

We just have to network these computers

and then it can do the math in 10 minutes.

953

:

Laura: Yeah.

954

:

Xhafer: his answer is to like hook

up the nav and like the gunnery

955

:

computers and all these other important

sounding computers on the ship.

956

:

Instead of like, and I'll just hook it up

to like Baltar's computer that figures out

957

:

if we're silos or not and all these other

ones that might be non-essential, please.

958

:

It's like, no, he picks the ones

that if they lose them to the

959

:

silence, they're absolutely fucked.

960

:

Laura: You've gotta believe that Gaas

961

:

has a really good computer, right?

962

:

He's a giant nerd.

963

:

He's

964

:

Ben: the, the code in

there is run 12 hours.

965

:

If one equal green, if zero equal

green, and it's like if Gada looked

966

:

at this, he'd be like, wait a minute,

there's no actual code in here.

967

:

Laura: Yeah, we can't

let gada in that one.

968

:

Like that's, that's bad.

969

:

I bet Ga Gaas has the best of passwords.

970

:

I bet.

971

:

He's been to Jairus's

Password Management school

972

:

Ben: I firmly believe that his

password is gaas is number one.

973

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

974

:

for sure.

975

:

Laura: point.

976

:

Xhafer: Oh, it's so secure.

977

:

It's got a number and a special character.

978

:

A hundred percent.

979

:

I've, I have known enough people

professionally like this who you set a

980

:

temp password of like summer 20 25, 2,

981

:

Laura: Uhhuh,

982

:

Xhafer: they just never fucking change it.

983

:

And they'll tell you when you're on

the phone with them, they'll like,

984

:

just like, I know I typed my password.

985

:

Right.

986

:

It never changed it after you

said it last time to summer:

987

:

And it's all like,

motherfucker, it expired.

988

:

Laura: Yeah, exactly.

989

:

Ben: And then you get, but you

need to put a special character.

990

:

And it's like, but my password

is Gaas one, and Gaas is

991

:

the most special character.

992

:

Laura: Mm.

993

:

Yeah.

994

:

Yeah.

995

:

Xhafer: Fuck you, Ben

996

:

Ben: Yeah.

997

:

Laura: The second network, the

computers comes out of Gita's mouth.

998

:

I am just so suspect.

999

:

I'm like, no, no, don't do it.

:

00:44:15,147 --> 00:44:16,107

That's so bad.

:

00:44:16,587 --> 00:44:17,787

Ben: And that's what Kelly is saying.

:

00:44:17,787 --> 00:44:19,227

He's just like, hell

:

00:44:19,227 --> 00:44:19,677

no.

:

00:44:19,917 --> 00:44:21,537

Xhafer: audibly harrumphs

:

00:44:22,437 --> 00:44:22,647

Laura: Uhhuh.

:

00:44:23,337 --> 00:44:26,968

Well, and he is correct that

Adama would not want that.

:

00:44:27,687 --> 00:44:28,347

Xhafer: a hundred percent.

:

00:44:28,857 --> 00:44:32,307

The old man would never, never

do this, and he is ride or die

:

00:44:32,307 --> 00:44:35,448

for adama's rules, which is a

:

00:44:35,448 --> 00:44:35,868

thing.

:

00:44:37,233 --> 00:44:37,443

Ben: Which

:

00:44:37,518 --> 00:44:39,288

Laura: Well, daddy has great rules.

:

00:44:39,513 --> 00:44:41,553

Ben: Well, I'll also say,

and this is something you

:

00:44:41,553 --> 00:44:46,679

guys have been publicly arguing about

as long as it's within the military

:

00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:50,459

chain of command, Adama is super lawful,

:

00:44:50,736 --> 00:44:51,086

Laura: Uhhuh.

:

00:44:51,686 --> 00:44:53,936

Ben: and I think we need to

take that into consideration in

:

00:44:53,936 --> 00:44:56,456

any further alignment charts.

:

00:44:57,016 --> 00:44:57,306

Laura: Okay.

:

00:44:57,866 --> 00:45:01,766

Ben: That's why I feel a

Commander Adama is lawful neutral.

:

00:45:02,768 --> 00:45:06,728

You follow the gosh darn chain

in command as long as I am the

:

00:45:06,728 --> 00:45:08,438

center of that chain of command.

:

00:45:08,981 --> 00:45:11,561

Laura: I will take your

feedback and probably forget it,

:

00:45:11,801 --> 00:45:12,131

but

:

00:45:12,521 --> 00:45:14,711

Xhafer: I think by the

next time we do this,

:

00:45:15,461 --> 00:45:16,571

Ben: It'll be completely changed.

:

00:45:16,871 --> 00:45:19,121

Xhafer: it, the answer changes

enough where it doesn't matter.

:

00:45:19,126 --> 00:45:19,336

Ben.

:

00:45:20,231 --> 00:45:22,691

Laura: Sh, were we gonna do

it at the penultimate episode?

:

00:45:22,691 --> 00:45:24,131

Was that our, uh.

:

00:45:24,355 --> 00:45:27,745

Xhafer: we can, we can make a

point of doing it for the episode.

:

00:45:27,745 --> 00:45:29,635

Ben comes back for next.

:

00:45:29,695 --> 00:45:29,965

I'll tell.

:

00:45:30,325 --> 00:45:30,655

I'll see.

:

00:45:30,655 --> 00:45:31,585

You can participate.

:

00:45:31,585 --> 00:45:33,985

I'll tell you that now because

I'll forget to remind you when we

:

00:45:33,985 --> 00:45:38,845

go to record and I'll also forget

to do it and not have answers, but

:

00:45:38,905 --> 00:45:39,145

I know

:

00:45:39,220 --> 00:45:39,670

Laura: Don't worry.

:

00:45:39,955 --> 00:45:40,345

Xhafer: so

:

00:45:40,540 --> 00:45:41,320

Laura: I'll be prepared.

:

00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,980

I'll do the homework.

:

00:45:42,115 --> 00:45:42,475

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:45:42,565 --> 00:45:46,825

Ben: we get some more awful flashbacks

here where Ty gets back into

:

00:45:46,825 --> 00:45:48,865

the fleet thanks to Major Adama.

:

00:45:49,855 --> 00:45:52,445

And then we get a moment.

:

00:45:52,570 --> 00:45:58,270

I knew Laura was going to love

where Gada, my boy is just going

:

00:45:58,270 --> 00:46:00,490

like, man, I wish Baltar was here.

:

00:46:00,490 --> 00:46:01,840

I'm sure you could write better code.

:

00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,610

And well, but then Ty goes,

I'd rather have you here than

:

00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:08,110

that shifty son of a bitch.

:

00:46:08,425 --> 00:46:08,815

Laura: Oh,

:

00:46:08,860 --> 00:46:09,130

Ben: just.

:

00:46:09,955 --> 00:46:11,545

Laura: it's true, it's true.

:

00:46:11,545 --> 00:46:15,415

Like, you know, I'm not

super like into Colonel Ty.

:

00:46:15,445 --> 00:46:19,075

'cause I feel like I feel problems there.

:

00:46:19,075 --> 00:46:21,445

Especially because you

can't seem to kick Ellen.

:

00:46:21,935 --> 00:46:22,445

But

:

00:46:22,655 --> 00:46:25,145

I did very much agree

with him in this moment.

:

00:46:25,145 --> 00:46:25,535

Yes.

:

00:46:26,090 --> 00:46:29,900

Ben: I knew, like regardless of

where, where he's at in your rankings,

:

00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:32,120

this bumped him up a few pegs?

:

00:46:32,495 --> 00:46:33,580

Laura: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:46:35,975 --> 00:46:39,755

Oh, and also he does release Lee sort

:

00:46:39,980 --> 00:46:42,110

Xhafer: Yeah, Lee is on parole.

:

00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:46,940

He agrees to be in the BRI while

off duty and not to do any light

:

00:46:46,940 --> 00:46:49,580

treason or insurrection when on duty.

:

00:46:49,939 --> 00:46:53,514

Laura: he, he recognizes

like it is good pilot

:

00:46:53,889 --> 00:46:55,989

Ben: Yeah, we got like seven of them.

:

00:46:57,279 --> 00:46:57,579

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:46:57,879 --> 00:46:59,679

Ben: You, you still shoot cylons?

:

00:46:59,889 --> 00:47:00,339

Yeah.

:

00:47:00,579 --> 00:47:00,879

Okay.

:

00:47:02,154 --> 00:47:06,234

Laura: Some of our pilots are

less than 50 days at being pilot.

:

00:47:06,234 --> 00:47:10,104

Like they need, they need

big boy pilot to help.

:

00:47:10,254 --> 00:47:10,584

Yeah.

:

00:47:12,458 --> 00:47:16,538

Xhafer: GATA builds a firewall

and shows us the nice visual for

:

00:47:16,538 --> 00:47:19,748

the silence progress in fucking

with the networked computers,

:

00:47:33,379 --> 00:47:38,869

Ben: so we now have to survive 10

minutes fighting against the, the cys.

:

00:47:39,526 --> 00:47:41,296

and what do we launch, Laura?

:

00:47:41,967 --> 00:47:43,112

Laura: The Vipers.

:

00:47:44,552 --> 00:47:45,512

Ben: Yeah, we do.

:

00:47:45,667 --> 00:47:45,887

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:47:46,227 --> 00:47:47,327

The, the neglect,

:

00:47:49,427 --> 00:47:51,077

Laura: You've been

listening to Cool Girls.

:

00:47:52,922 --> 00:47:53,582

Ben: I mean, yeah,

:

00:47:53,632 --> 00:47:53,852

Xhafer: yep.

:

00:47:54,552 --> 00:47:55,137

The, they

:

00:47:55,167 --> 00:47:56,307

Ben: I only get so many of those

:

00:47:56,372 --> 00:47:56,532

Xhafer: it.

:

00:47:56,667 --> 00:47:56,727

Ben: so

:

00:47:57,642 --> 00:47:58,032

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:58,482 --> 00:48:01,422

Every time you're on here, we'll try

to use the word Viper no matter what.

:

00:48:04,437 --> 00:48:05,277

Ben: it's a compulsion.

:

00:48:05,277 --> 00:48:08,217

Now, maybe I should go back to therapy.

:

00:48:10,307 --> 00:48:11,087

Laura: No, you went three times.

:

00:48:11,087 --> 00:48:11,607

You're all

:

00:48:11,612 --> 00:48:12,042

good now.

:

00:48:12,177 --> 00:48:13,167

Ben: It was a lot longer than that.

:

00:48:13,797 --> 00:48:15,657

Xhafer: They jump back successfully.

:

00:48:15,777 --> 00:48:17,607

The Bay Star is just hanging out.

:

00:48:18,227 --> 00:48:19,697

Ordinance is free.

:

00:48:19,997 --> 00:48:21,257

Viper's launched.

:

00:48:21,617 --> 00:48:25,247

The box is locked, the lights are on Bend.

:

00:48:25,577 --> 00:48:27,077

It's fighting robots Time.

:

00:48:30,588 --> 00:48:31,998

Ben: It's robot fighting time,

:

00:48:32,133 --> 00:48:33,423

Xhafer: No, they're fighting robots.

:

00:48:33,423 --> 00:48:35,883

That was the, i I it was, I didn't do

:

00:48:35,958 --> 00:48:37,518

Ben: but they are also robot fighting.

:

00:48:37,988 --> 00:48:41,378

Xhafer: well, it's robot fighting

is robots fighting each other.

:

00:48:41,378 --> 00:48:42,638

They're fighting robots.

:

00:48:43,508 --> 00:48:45,128

I, I, I did it on purpose.

:

00:48:45,128 --> 00:48:47,018

I didn't fuck up the battle bots bet.

:

00:48:47,018 --> 00:48:48,668

I want you to know I didn't fuck it up.

:

00:48:48,668 --> 00:48:49,988

I did it on purpose.

:

00:48:50,783 --> 00:48:51,233

Ben: I know.

:

00:48:51,278 --> 00:48:51,908

Xhafer: matters.

:

00:48:51,953 --> 00:48:52,853

Ben: I appreciate you

:

00:48:54,906 --> 00:48:58,986

and while this is going

on, Adama almost dies.

:

00:48:59,031 --> 00:49:00,081

Xhafer: This wasn't dramatic enough.

:

00:49:00,081 --> 00:49:01,281

They really needed this

:

00:49:01,401 --> 00:49:01,821

Laura: Uhhuh.

:

00:49:01,971 --> 00:49:02,361

Xhafer: bit.

:

00:49:02,792 --> 00:49:03,182

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:49:03,492 --> 00:49:06,822

For some reason, we don't have

the defibrillator in the room when

:

00:49:06,822 --> 00:49:08,352

we're doing the cardiac thing.

:

00:49:08,772 --> 00:49:10,602

It's like out in the hall or something,

:

00:49:10,727 --> 00:49:13,482

Xhafer: mean, maybe it's part

of Gita's networked computers.

:

00:49:27,289 --> 00:49:28,009

Laura: We need

:

00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:31,759

this essential computer,

this essential computer,

:

00:49:31,969 --> 00:49:32,299

Ben: Mr.

:

00:49:32,299 --> 00:49:35,389

Gada, what is that

fucking beep, beep, beep,

:

00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:38,239

or sorry,

:

00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,109

fracking.

:

00:49:42,992 --> 00:49:46,828

Laura: Yeah, so our medic is uh,

she's taking him under the knife.

:

00:49:46,928 --> 00:49:47,318

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,268

The sidelines infiltrate the

network computers around 50%.

:

00:49:51,758 --> 00:49:57,248

He should have put a better wifi password

than soap stack on, but here we are.

:

00:49:59,513 --> 00:50:02,363

Laura: I, hold on, I need to write

that down for my next password

:

00:50:02,603 --> 00:50:04,748

Ben: I mean, I do subscribe

to Gita's soap Stack

:

00:50:05,248 --> 00:50:06,838

Xhafer: The Guard and Rosalyn sell.

:

00:50:06,838 --> 00:50:09,238

Asked to pray her to pray with him.

:

00:50:09,648 --> 00:50:10,988

Ben: and calls are a prophet.

:

00:50:11,158 --> 00:50:14,998

Xhafer: She uses this distraction to

grab his gun, shoot him, and enter

:

00:50:14,998 --> 00:50:17,008

her diehard era crawling around the

:

00:50:17,008 --> 00:50:17,968

tubes of the ship.

:

00:50:18,753 --> 00:50:19,563

Ben: That's not true.

:

00:50:19,563 --> 00:50:19,683

You're

:

00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:20,133

fair.

:

00:50:20,838 --> 00:50:21,348

We know.

:

00:50:21,348 --> 00:50:22,278

We know Rosalyn.

:

00:50:22,368 --> 00:50:23,508

She doesn't shoot people.

:

00:50:23,658 --> 00:50:23,958

She

:

00:50:23,958 --> 00:50:24,708

throws them out.

:

00:50:24,708 --> 00:50:26,538

Airlocks, it's

:

00:50:26,583 --> 00:50:27,183

Laura: that's true.

:

00:50:28,893 --> 00:50:29,493

Yeah,

:

00:50:29,943 --> 00:50:33,333

Xhafer: Can you imagine though,

die hard with her right now.

:

00:50:33,333 --> 00:50:34,623

Just going around the ship.

:

00:50:34,803 --> 00:50:35,883

Hi, I'm Kamala,

:

00:50:38,913 --> 00:50:44,753

Laura: Yeah, so I thought that

was interesting that we have this

:

00:50:44,753 --> 00:50:49,223

guard who is clearly, you know,

one of Adama's men wanting to pray

:

00:50:49,223 --> 00:50:51,343

with Rosalyn, and I was like, huh,

:

00:50:51,390 --> 00:50:52,320

that seems like it could

:

00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,490

be a problem later.

:

00:50:53,804 --> 00:50:54,674

Xhafer: and this is the same

:

00:50:54,674 --> 00:50:57,224

dude who like arrested Lee.

:

00:50:57,374 --> 00:51:00,944

Like this dude is like

around, he has like been here.

:

00:51:01,394 --> 00:51:01,994

This is no

:

00:51:01,994 --> 00:51:02,564

bullshit.

:

00:51:02,564 --> 00:51:04,729

Like he is a dma.

:

00:51:04,729 --> 00:51:07,579

Loyal a hundred percent,

but at the same time

:

00:51:08,423 --> 00:51:08,963

he's torn.

:

00:51:10,048 --> 00:51:12,690

Laura: Yeah, This seems

like it could be a problem.

:

00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:13,320

It seems like

:

00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,880

we're setting up maybe a problem.

:

00:51:15,495 --> 00:51:19,155

Ben: Or just like, at least there are

people who are like, yeah, I trust

:

00:51:19,155 --> 00:51:21,885

Adama, but like not with my soul.

:

00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,500

Laura: Uh Huh.

:

00:51:22,765 --> 00:51:23,095

Xhafer: Yeah,

:

00:51:23,477 --> 00:51:25,667

Ben: And we get a weird spaceship.

:

00:51:25,697 --> 00:51:28,037

Xhafer: a new type of cylon ship.

:

00:51:28,877 --> 00:51:29,477

Ben: A lander.

:

00:51:30,077 --> 00:51:31,847

Xhafer: Oh, we don't

know that yet, but yes.

:

00:51:32,317 --> 00:51:33,007

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:51:33,557 --> 00:51:34,067

Love it.

:

00:51:34,127 --> 00:51:35,807

Love a new season, new ship.

:

00:51:35,987 --> 00:51:38,537

Xhafer: Yeah, they got a little

bit extra in that CGI budget.

:

00:51:38,567 --> 00:51:39,557

Got to make a new model,

:

00:51:39,897 --> 00:51:40,257

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:51:40,407 --> 00:51:43,497

We've got to show the people something

upfront to keep them watching.

:

00:51:43,497 --> 00:51:44,937

This is not compelling enough.

:

00:51:45,057 --> 00:51:45,447

Xhafer: right?

:

00:51:45,447 --> 00:51:46,677

There's not enough going on.

:

00:51:46,977 --> 00:51:47,217

What?

:

00:51:47,217 --> 00:51:48,807

This episode needs more.

:

00:51:49,647 --> 00:51:49,917

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:51:50,397 --> 00:51:50,727

Yeah.

:

00:51:51,567 --> 00:51:53,397

Have we breached the second firewall yet?

:

00:51:53,967 --> 00:51:54,597

Ben: Yes.

:

00:51:54,837 --> 00:51:55,137

Laura: Okay.

:

00:51:55,857 --> 00:51:59,847

Then we get, they like open Adama's

chest and third firewall is down.

:

00:51:59,847 --> 00:52:02,577

It's just like back and

forth and back and forth.

:

00:52:02,712 --> 00:52:04,752

Ben: And what does our

Metcalf to do to keep

:

00:52:04,752 --> 00:52:05,772

Adama alive?

:

00:52:06,672 --> 00:52:08,682

Beat his heart for him.

:

00:52:08,757 --> 00:52:10,827

Laura: was gonna say, are we

doing the heart squeezy thing?

:

00:52:11,097 --> 00:52:11,967

Yeah.

:

00:52:12,732 --> 00:52:13,632

Yeah.

:

00:52:13,662 --> 00:52:15,072

Ben: Capri sun, just like, woo.

:

00:52:16,017 --> 00:52:18,567

Xhafer: Don't put the straw

in the forbidden Capri sun.

:

00:52:21,457 --> 00:52:21,747

Ben: It's

:

00:52:23,202 --> 00:52:25,092

Laura: Unless, unless

that's part of the thing.

:

00:52:25,182 --> 00:52:26,862

I don't know anything about heart surgery.

:

00:52:27,402 --> 00:52:28,272

Ben: Husker flavored.

:

00:52:30,837 --> 00:52:31,707

Xhafer: Is that just corn?

:

00:52:32,742 --> 00:52:33,792

Laura: I think it's just corn

:

00:52:33,792 --> 00:52:34,152

Yeah.

:

00:52:34,257 --> 00:52:34,587

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:52:35,067 --> 00:52:35,427

Okay.

:

00:52:36,117 --> 00:52:37,887

That's probably why he

has the heart problems.

:

00:52:37,887 --> 00:52:38,907

If we're being honest.

:

00:52:39,512 --> 00:52:40,412

Laura: Stuff's bad for you.

:

00:52:40,472 --> 00:52:40,987

That's what they

:

00:52:40,997 --> 00:52:41,357

Xhafer: Uh,

:

00:52:41,367 --> 00:52:45,487

The fourth of the five firewalls

goes down but the calculations are

:

00:52:45,487 --> 00:52:47,377

complete with just a second despair.

:

00:52:47,647 --> 00:52:52,507

As ga a manually disconnects

the network and the Galactica

:

00:52:52,507 --> 00:52:55,057

jumps and has found the fleet.

:

00:52:55,642 --> 00:52:58,672

Laura: Manually disconnecting

the network is yanking the cord.

:

00:52:58,672 --> 00:52:59,002

Right.

:

00:52:59,212 --> 00:52:59,482

Xhafer: Yeah,

:

00:53:00,082 --> 00:53:05,392

Ben: I've always wanted to do this

and I've now mostly wanted to do this

:

00:53:05,392 --> 00:53:07,072

in a place where it your fair works

:

00:53:09,611 --> 00:53:13,901

Xhafer: I have been in data centers

that were being decommissioned where

:

00:53:13,901 --> 00:53:17,111

there were wires that weren't in

use and you could just unplug them.

:

00:53:17,411 --> 00:53:18,581

And you know what we did, Ben?

:

00:53:19,661 --> 00:53:22,361

We still didn't fucking unplug them.

:

00:53:22,541 --> 00:53:25,151

Just in case we need to

spin it back up again.

:

00:53:25,331 --> 00:53:28,871

Dear God, never unplugged those cords.

:

00:53:29,371 --> 00:53:32,461

Laura: Being in banking, having been in

banking, one of the things they told you

:

00:53:32,461 --> 00:53:36,991

was like, if you think your computer has

gotten a virus, unplug it right away.

:

00:53:37,081 --> 00:53:40,561

I don't know if that's a real thing,

but I kind of wanted that to happen.

:

00:53:40,591 --> 00:53:44,551

Not to me, obviously, like it

would never happen to me, but I

:

00:53:44,551 --> 00:53:47,941

wanted to tap in my vicinity so I

could yank somebody's cords out.

:

00:53:51,181 --> 00:53:52,231

Just, just need it.

:

00:53:52,561 --> 00:53:53,791

It's just so satisfying.

:

00:53:54,256 --> 00:53:55,846

Xhafer: Just do it in your home laptop.

:

00:53:56,216 --> 00:54:01,266

And yeah, turning a computer off will stop

a virus that has infected your operating

:

00:54:01,266 --> 00:54:03,066

system from fucking with your files.

:

00:54:03,556 --> 00:54:05,356

But the second you turn it back on,

:

00:54:06,091 --> 00:54:06,842

Laura: Yeah, yeah,

:

00:54:06,946 --> 00:54:08,296

Xhafer: not gonna matter too much.

:

00:54:08,606 --> 00:54:13,316

But there are ways to like, help

and circumvent and work around that.

:

00:54:13,916 --> 00:54:14,206

Laura: yeah.

:

00:54:14,706 --> 00:54:17,106

Ben: How mad were you at

the end of this episode?

:

00:54:17,792 --> 00:54:18,827

Laura: Oh, we're not there yet.

:

00:54:19,727 --> 00:54:24,132

Ben: But we get to, we get to the,

we found the fleet and everybody's

:

00:54:24,137 --> 00:54:28,852

like, yeah, and celebrating and like

high fives all around Gator, you

:

00:54:28,857 --> 00:54:29,207

did it.

:

00:54:30,407 --> 00:54:31,937

And nobody's like, Hey.

:

00:54:33,032 --> 00:54:35,462

Did a, did a cylon crash into us.

:

00:54:36,152 --> 00:54:37,322

It's not on fire.

:

00:54:37,472 --> 00:54:39,302

Like we have them talking about that,

:

00:54:40,202 --> 00:54:44,432

but nobody's just like, maybe

we should send some dudes.

:

00:54:44,897 --> 00:54:48,557

Laura: I think they, they say something

about the breach at one point, right?

:

00:54:48,572 --> 00:54:48,752

Ben: Yeah.

:

00:54:48,752 --> 00:54:50,072

And they say it's not on fire.

:

00:54:50,222 --> 00:54:51,632

Oh, thank God we did it.

:

00:54:51,662 --> 00:54:52,112

We saved

:

00:54:52,112 --> 00:54:52,412

the day.

:

00:54:52,412 --> 00:54:54,902

And it's like, Cylon hit us.

:

00:54:55,727 --> 00:54:56,147

Laura: yeah,

:

00:54:56,312 --> 00:54:57,122

Ben: Let's check that out.

:

00:54:57,617 --> 00:54:58,007

Laura: yeah.

:

00:54:58,007 --> 00:55:00,167

I mean, do things, you

gotta check first, right?

:

00:55:00,947 --> 00:55:01,637

On fire

:

00:55:02,147 --> 00:55:02,627

Xhafer: Check.

:

00:55:03,107 --> 00:55:03,647

Laura: stuff.

:

00:55:04,397 --> 00:55:04,757

Right?

:

00:55:05,987 --> 00:55:09,437

And then you should probably

actually check the site.

:

00:55:09,437 --> 00:55:11,357

Like those are very important

:

00:55:11,507 --> 00:55:11,807

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:55:12,167 --> 00:55:17,987

The problem is, is the only person that

they ever ask to do that shit is Tyro.

:

00:55:18,017 --> 00:55:18,587

Laura: Oh, yeah.

:

00:55:19,217 --> 00:55:22,427

Xhafer: And without Tyro around, they

don't have anyone to go ask to do it.

:

00:55:23,447 --> 00:55:24,767

Laura: Well, and here's

the other thing too.

:

00:55:24,767 --> 00:55:28,127

I wonder if Teal perhaps hasn't, um, like.

:

00:55:28,757 --> 00:55:34,217

Been mentoring his team correctly

and like delegating down enough

:

00:55:34,217 --> 00:55:35,237

when these things happen.

:

00:55:35,867 --> 00:55:39,467

And no one has thought that, what would

:

00:55:39,467 --> 00:55:41,537

Tyrell do if we were here?

:

00:55:41,717 --> 00:55:46,427

Ben: I am also just wondering why did

they send Tyrell on the away mission?

:

00:55:47,357 --> 00:55:47,687

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:55:47,747 --> 00:55:52,757

Ben: He has a very important job, like his

:

00:55:52,757 --> 00:55:53,297

job is.

:

00:55:54,047 --> 00:55:54,647

His job is

:

00:55:54,662 --> 00:55:54,882

Laura: But

:

00:55:54,977 --> 00:55:55,547

Ben: Vipers

:

00:55:55,547 --> 00:55:56,117

working.

:

00:55:56,297 --> 00:56:01,857

Xhafer: Like I know why for where

his plot is going, like why he,

:

00:56:01,917 --> 00:56:03,657

it's important for him to be there.

:

00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,920

Laura: We didn't give a re like

:

00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,780

Xhafer: but there's no actual reason.

:

00:56:07,780 --> 00:56:07,990

No

:

00:56:08,625 --> 00:56:08,930

Laura: yeah, yeah.

:

00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:09,520

yeah.

:

00:56:10,335 --> 00:56:14,145

So before we end, end this episode, right?

:

00:56:14,728 --> 00:56:18,598

We have the medic doesn't wanna do

any more heart surgery, but Adama is

:

00:56:18,928 --> 00:56:19,828

critical.

:

00:56:20,458 --> 00:56:22,018

Coddle is on his way.

:

00:56:22,183 --> 00:56:22,783

Xhafer: one piece.

:

00:56:22,783 --> 00:56:23,113

Yeah.

:

00:56:23,758 --> 00:56:24,208

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:56:24,808 --> 00:56:28,228

Ty goes to see him, tells him

the doctor's on his way, and he

:

00:56:28,228 --> 00:56:29,518

starts getting all emotional.

:

00:56:29,518 --> 00:56:30,808

We have one more flashback.

:

00:56:32,098 --> 00:56:36,988

He's remembering like I, I assume

he's in some sort of drunken stupor

:

00:56:36,988 --> 00:56:39,778

here, going to burn his stuff.

:

00:56:40,798 --> 00:56:45,088

And then Shore Patrol comes to welcome him

back to the fleet courtesy of Major Adama.

:

00:56:45,183 --> 00:56:45,603

Ben: Mm-hmm.

:

00:56:46,153 --> 00:56:51,343

Laura: And he feels really bad that

Adama went out on that limb for him.

:

00:56:51,883 --> 00:56:52,933

Should have just let him

:

00:56:53,953 --> 00:56:57,913

rot and orders him not to die.

:

00:56:58,573 --> 00:57:01,963

Um, was he with Ellen at this time?

:

00:57:02,023 --> 00:57:02,983

We think Ty.

:

00:57:03,613 --> 00:57:04,453

Ben: Yes,

:

00:57:04,588 --> 00:57:06,058

Xhafer: She's in the background of some of

:

00:57:06,973 --> 00:57:07,063

these.

:

00:57:07,843 --> 00:57:09,973

Ben: I don't think that was

Ellen in the room with him.

:

00:57:10,018 --> 00:57:10,378

Xhafer: Oh,

:

00:57:10,663 --> 00:57:13,063

Laura: Yeah, I wondered, I

:

00:57:13,273 --> 00:57:15,793

Ben: That is my, my interpretation.

:

00:57:15,793 --> 00:57:15,823

I.

:

00:57:16,963 --> 00:57:17,173

Laura: 'cause

:

00:57:17,308 --> 00:57:20,698

Ben: we have the actress, we could

have put her in a terrible Edward

:

00:57:20,698 --> 00:57:22,288

James almost mustache as well.

:

00:57:22,508 --> 00:57:23,018

Laura: Just like

:

00:57:23,018 --> 00:57:23,768

dyed her hair.

:

00:57:23,768 --> 00:57:24,128

A different

:

00:57:24,128 --> 00:57:24,428

color.

:

00:57:24,428 --> 00:57:25,358

Different color wig.

:

00:57:25,538 --> 00:57:25,898

Yeah.

:

00:57:26,003 --> 00:57:28,103

Ben: just, I just want her

to be like, who's there?

:

00:57:28,103 --> 00:57:30,233

And she's got the, the giant mustache.

:

00:57:31,208 --> 00:57:31,598

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:57:31,688 --> 00:57:33,128

No, that would be very satisfying.

:

00:57:33,488 --> 00:57:38,588

Um, yeah, I, I wondered because the

vibes I get off of Ellen are almost like

:

00:57:38,978 --> 00:57:41,798

Ty is like falling apart in this scene.

:

00:57:41,798 --> 00:57:43,748

He's like at his rock lobotomies.

:

00:57:44,528 --> 00:57:48,578

I don't think Ellen is a woman who sticks

around with a man, and the rock-bottom

:

00:57:48,578 --> 00:57:54,698

is like, she has gone to do something

else to try to scam somebody else.

:

00:57:54,698 --> 00:57:55,508

In my mind,

:

00:57:56,487 --> 00:57:56,727

Xhafer: quite

:

00:57:56,862 --> 00:57:59,502

Laura: I don't know, I, I

wonder if it'll come up.

:

00:57:59,502 --> 00:58:00,282

Probably not, but

:

00:58:00,282 --> 00:58:00,732

that's okay.

:

00:58:01,287 --> 00:58:01,647

Xhafer: We'll see.

:

00:58:02,742 --> 00:58:03,552

Laura: And then, yeah.

:

00:58:03,582 --> 00:58:04,092

Oh, no.

:

00:58:04,242 --> 00:58:05,412

Battle bots on the ship.

:

00:58:05,697 --> 00:58:06,357

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:58:06,897 --> 00:58:10,377

A bunch of centurion's getting

outta that wreckage to creds.

:

00:58:10,767 --> 00:58:15,738

That's the episode Benjamin,

:

00:58:16,368 --> 00:58:16,908

Ben: Mm-hmm.

:

00:58:17,028 --> 00:58:21,228

Xhafer: our guest, you get to go ahead

and rate this first on a scale of

:

00:58:21,228 --> 00:58:22,578

one to 12 colonies.

:

00:58:23,517 --> 00:58:27,867

Ben: Well, last time I rated on

episode 13, I wanted to rate it

:

00:58:27,867 --> 00:58:31,437

14, but I didn't want to be like,

haha, you're gonna find cobol.

:

00:58:31,567 --> 00:58:31,717

Xhafer: So

:

00:58:31,717 --> 00:58:32,167

Ben: uh,

:

00:58:32,227 --> 00:58:32,587

Xhafer: can.

:

00:58:32,737 --> 00:58:33,127

They found

:

00:58:33,127 --> 00:58:33,547

cobol,

:

00:58:33,577 --> 00:58:34,507

Ben: now I could,

:

00:58:34,717 --> 00:58:38,527

Xhafer: although I think I said

that giving it a COBOL was a zero

:

00:58:39,127 --> 00:58:39,607

instead

:

00:58:39,682 --> 00:58:41,212

Laura: like wrapping back around.

:

00:58:41,272 --> 00:58:42,562

It's like the snake eating its

:

00:58:42,562 --> 00:58:43,102

tail.

:

00:58:43,162 --> 00:58:43,282

Yeah.

:

00:58:43,687 --> 00:58:45,637

Xhafer: All happen before

it happened again, you know?

:

00:58:46,777 --> 00:58:48,247

Ben: this isn't as good as 33.

:

00:58:48,577 --> 00:58:49,237

Um,

:

00:58:49,507 --> 00:58:54,001

there is a lot of

incident in this episode.

:

00:58:54,341 --> 00:59:00,101

There is a lot going on and I enjoy

a lot of what it's setting up.

:

00:59:00,771 --> 00:59:05,756

so I'm going to give this

a very solid 10 out of 12.

:

00:59:08,285 --> 00:59:08,765

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:59:08,795 --> 00:59:12,125

I mean, I, I don't have

any like, story complaints

:

00:59:12,125 --> 00:59:13,715

except for Chief Dearl.

:

00:59:13,745 --> 00:59:14,045

Like

:

00:59:14,705 --> 00:59:14,915

Ben: I got

:

00:59:14,915 --> 00:59:15,875

wig complaints,

:

00:59:16,095 --> 00:59:16,215

Laura: yeah.

:

00:59:17,265 --> 00:59:18,195

No, I love those.

:

00:59:18,195 --> 00:59:19,185

They're hysterical.

:

00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:20,535

I, I had a good laugh.

:

00:59:21,085 --> 00:59:26,298

So not a, not really any marks

against, it was very dramatic.

:

00:59:26,628 --> 00:59:27,768

Great opener.

:

00:59:28,278 --> 00:59:29,298

Added a couple things.

:

00:59:29,538 --> 00:59:29,958

Okay.

:

00:59:30,018 --> 00:59:33,468

Kelly being added, like the

way he was kind of funny.

:

00:59:34,151 --> 00:59:34,481

I don't know.

:

00:59:34,541 --> 00:59:36,911

I feel like maybe, maybe

let's start out at a 10.

:

00:59:37,241 --> 00:59:37,571

Xhafer: Okay.

:

00:59:38,231 --> 00:59:42,551

I, I am a little less

high on this episode.

:

00:59:43,241 --> 00:59:45,971

Um, it's very jam packed

:

00:59:46,371 --> 00:59:53,811

and there's a lot more breathing

room that happens in the next couple

:

00:59:53,811 --> 00:59:58,071

of episodes, and I think I would've

appreciated some of that here.

:

00:59:58,531 --> 01:00:01,981

But this is still the era of weekly

television, so I feel like you

:

01:00:01,981 --> 01:00:06,181

gotta do this now and then have

all that to keep people tuning in.

:

01:00:06,181 --> 01:00:07,201

Like, I get that.

:

01:00:07,801 --> 01:00:07,981

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:00:07,981 --> 01:00:10,261

You need to make the splash

when you come back from a long

:

01:00:10,681 --> 01:00:10,831

Xhafer: it

:

01:00:10,831 --> 01:00:17,941

just, it just, doesn't vibe with

like my current TV sensibilities

:

01:00:18,301 --> 01:00:24,241

where a lot of stuff is, you know,

20 hour arcs over 20 hours instead of

:

01:00:24,271 --> 01:00:27,811

five hour arcs in an hour, and then

you take your time somewhere else.

:

01:00:28,438 --> 01:00:29,878

That said, it's still great.

:

01:00:30,208 --> 01:00:31,888

Um, I just would appreciate it.

:

01:00:31,888 --> 01:00:34,438

Maybe a little bit, moved

over to the next one.

:

01:00:35,548 --> 01:00:38,728

Maybe not resolve as much as you

did here and leave a little bit

:

01:00:38,728 --> 01:00:41,068

for, you know, push it all down.

:

01:00:41,068 --> 01:00:42,478

Push another couple things down.

:

01:00:42,998 --> 01:00:47,678

From next episode, I don't know,

I'm gonna say a eight out of 12.

:

01:00:48,128 --> 01:00:48,578

still

:

01:00:48,578 --> 01:00:49,958

still a great episode,

:

01:00:50,343 --> 01:00:50,763

Laura: Mm-hmm.

:

01:00:51,368 --> 01:00:52,178

Xhafer: well above average.

:

01:00:52,494 --> 01:00:52,984

Laura: Alright,

:

01:00:54,019 --> 01:01:00,739

Xhafer: well next week we've got season

two, episode two, valley of Darkness.

:

01:01:02,794 --> 01:01:08,479

Ty has to work with Lee to defeat a

silent boarding party that threatens to

:

01:01:08,479 --> 01:01:11,839

take over Galactica and to destroy the

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fleet.

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Laura: Oh.

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01:01:15,352 --> 01:01:17,242

Ben: And we don't have our best sniper

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01:01:17,572 --> 01:01:18,022

SBUs.

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Xhafer: Yeah, star bes

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Laura: Star bes.

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So how many hours do we think have passed

in between this episode and the next?

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01:01:26,838 --> 01:01:29,238

It's gotta be like very minimal time,

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01:01:29,508 --> 01:01:31,248

Xhafer: Like from the

start of this episode.

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01:01:31,669 --> 01:01:34,759

Laura: No, I mean like, so we end

and the battle bots are getting

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01:01:34,759 --> 01:01:39,829

off like till they figure out the

battle bots are there be that long.

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01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:40,129

Right?

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01:01:40,339 --> 01:01:41,809

Xhafer: nah, I don't

believe it's that long.

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01:01:42,499 --> 01:01:43,399

Laura: Yeah, I love it.

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I love when we're like,

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01:01:45,859 --> 01:01:47,089

no time is passing.

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01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:48,469

Xhafer: It's 24.

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01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:49,099

You know,

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01:01:49,489 --> 01:01:49,779

Ben: Boop,

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01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:50,869

Laura: I guess

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01:01:51,289 --> 01:01:51,579

Ben: boop,

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01:01:52,999 --> 01:01:56,659

Xhafer: we should really do

that for some LTO at some point.

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01:01:57,499 --> 01:01:58,699

Laura: I've never seen 24.

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01:01:58,699 --> 01:01:59,959

If you need someone to sub in,

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01:02:00,469 --> 01:02:00,619

yeah.

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01:02:01,310 --> 01:02:01,400

Xhafer: Be

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01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,780

something fun at some point.

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01:02:03,590 --> 01:02:05,780

Well, I don't get to pick

the next season, Ben.

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01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:06,350

You do.

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01:02:06,650 --> 01:02:09,950

And after this airs, this

will have aired by the time

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01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:10,760

you

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have announced.

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01:02:12,290 --> 01:02:15,470

So yeah, we would've already

started Cobra or whatever you pick.

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01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:21,890

Um, so I guess I'll by this,

I'll know soon enough, and I know

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01:02:21,890 --> 01:02:25,610

by the time you're listening to

this, except for Aaron of course,

:

01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:27,890

who we have to say thank you

to for editing this episode.

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01:02:28,420 --> 01:02:29,070

Ben: Also, Jafer.

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When you're gonna say Cobra,

put some fat on the name.

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Xhafer: Do, do, do cobras.

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01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:35,230

His like vipers.

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01:02:36,825 --> 01:02:37,345

Laura: I think so.

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01:02:38,125 --> 01:02:39,565

Ben: They, they, they are venomous,

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01:02:39,985 --> 01:02:40,275

Laura: Yeah.

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01:02:40,315 --> 01:02:40,345

Ben: I.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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01:02:41,650 --> 01:02:44,530

I've never interacted with

a Cobra, so I don't know.

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01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,300

Laura: I've seen them at the zoo,

and that's about all I can handle.

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01:02:49,420 --> 01:02:49,960

Xhafer: Yeah.

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:50,620

Yeah.

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01:02:50,620 --> 01:02:51,400

That's that's real.

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01:02:51,876 --> 01:02:54,066

Ben: But thank you, Aaron

for editing this podcast.

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01:02:54,126 --> 01:02:55,476

We really, really appreciate it.

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01:02:55,566 --> 01:02:55,806

Xhafer: yeah,

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01:02:56,449 --> 01:02:56,869

Laura: indeed.

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01:02:56,879 --> 01:02:57,989

Xhafer: doing it a little outta order.

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01:02:58,149 --> 01:03:01,419

So you know, let's just go ahead

and throw Jeremy Siegel, thanks

:

01:03:01,419 --> 01:03:03,189

so much for our theme music.

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01:03:03,189 --> 01:03:04,029

Appreciate the hell out of it.

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01:03:04,029 --> 01:03:07,089

Jerry, you can find more Jeremy's work,

Jeremy Siegel 40 two.bandcamp.com.

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01:03:07,389 --> 01:03:09,909

And on streaming services,

it's nuclear Jaguar.

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01:03:10,854 --> 01:03:14,064

Laura: You know, I don't listen

to mu much of my own podcasts

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01:03:14,064 --> 01:03:16,584

because like a lack of time.

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01:03:16,614 --> 01:03:17,034

Right.

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01:03:17,394 --> 01:03:18,984

And BI was already here and

:

01:03:18,984 --> 01:03:21,564

I, I did it once, so, know,

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01:03:22,149 --> 01:03:22,749

Ben: I don't get it.

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01:03:22,839 --> 01:03:23,739

I have to listen to every

:

01:03:23,739 --> 01:03:27,159

single podcast I've ever

been on at least once.

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01:03:27,729 --> 01:03:29,349

I don't know how you

guys are able to do that.

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01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:29,409

It.

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01:03:29,814 --> 01:03:32,154

Laura: I, I don't, but I.

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01:03:32,484 --> 01:03:38,663

Did listen to a couple of recent

episodes, and the way that that theme

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01:03:38,663 --> 01:03:41,604

flows into our energy is very satisfying.

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01:03:41,874 --> 01:03:42,264

So

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01:03:42,429 --> 01:03:42,939

Xhafer: Awesome.

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01:03:42,954 --> 01:03:43,854

Laura: just wanna say that.

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01:03:44,409 --> 01:03:45,159

Xhafer: Thanks Jeremy.

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01:03:45,744 --> 01:03:46,163

Laura: Yeah.

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01:03:46,224 --> 01:03:49,704

And thanks to Angry Duck time machine

on Instagram for our podcast artwork.

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01:03:49,869 --> 01:03:50,319

Xhafer: Yeah.

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01:03:50,779 --> 01:03:53,842

And uh, you know, if you

wanna, you wanna hang out some

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01:03:53,842 --> 01:03:55,462

more, go jump in the Discord.

:

01:03:56,182 --> 01:03:58,162

You know, we got a great

community over there.

:

01:03:58,652 --> 01:03:59,702

It's been a lot of fun.

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01:03:59,702 --> 01:04:02,642

Ben, we should probably plug last time on.

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01:04:02,882 --> 01:04:05,072

Ben and I host another

podcast on the network.

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01:04:05,072 --> 01:04:06,272

It airs on Tuesdays.

:

01:04:06,272 --> 01:04:09,662

It's last time on We jump around

tv like we were just talking about

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01:04:09,812 --> 01:04:11,732

without context of the full show.

:

01:04:11,942 --> 01:04:13,322

It is a lot of fun.

:

01:04:13,322 --> 01:04:13,412

You

:

01:04:13,412 --> 01:04:14,642

should join us over there.

:

01:04:15,467 --> 01:04:18,346

Ben: And if you wanna hear the better

version of that show on Thursdays,

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01:04:18,346 --> 01:04:19,577

you can check out Cruel Girls.

:

01:04:19,577 --> 01:04:20,807

Don't Look at Explosions,

:

01:04:22,401 --> 01:04:22,731

Laura: Yeah.

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01:04:22,731 --> 01:04:23,361

Thank you, Ben.

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01:04:23,361 --> 01:04:24,036

That's very kind.

:

01:04:24,651 --> 01:04:26,361

Ben: or you get to talk

about America, the Jeep.

:

01:04:26,681 --> 01:04:28,211

Laura: Uh, Not for much longer though.

:

01:04:28,211 --> 01:04:31,601

And actually, I'm not sure America

to the Jeep is in it anymore.

:

01:04:31,871 --> 01:04:32,471

It's so sad.

:

01:04:32,786 --> 01:04:35,036

Xhafer: Yeah, I don't think

it would be, I don't know.

:

01:04:35,936 --> 01:04:36,296

I mean, if they

:

01:04:36,311 --> 01:04:36,821

Laura: America, the

:

01:04:36,866 --> 01:04:37,406

Xhafer: got the Jeep

:

01:04:37,421 --> 01:04:38,051

Laura: our hearts.

:

01:04:39,086 --> 01:04:39,686

Xhafer: that's a T-shirt.

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01:04:42,112 --> 01:04:43,762

All right, we'll see you next week.

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01:04:43,762 --> 01:04:44,212

Internet.

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01:04:44,287 --> 01:04:44,507

Laura: Bye.

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.