Episode 180

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Published on:

16th Jul 2025

BSG S2E13 - Weird Blood

Laura and Xhafer talk merchandising. Laura is pretty mad at Gaius Baltar. Xhafer recommends some Canadian cinema. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 2, Episode 13: Epiphanies.

Join us for more discussion on the Discord @ https://discord.gg/MUHKDDk6TN

Visit the new merch store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/WhatHappenedHerePods

Transcript
Xhafer:

Hey listener, quick content warning on this episode uh, there's

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gonna be talk about abortion and there's

also, uh, some themes revolving around a

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lack of bodily autonomy and sovereignty.

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So if that's gonna be something that

bothers you, go ahead and skip this one.

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We'll see you next week.

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Laura: Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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We're a reasonably well done sci-fi watch

cast by a couple of former strangers

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who are now friends and watching

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I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: And I'm Jair.

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Laura: I'm also mad at Gaas Baltar.

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Xhafer: As you should be.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Spoiling the end of the

episode for everyone.

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A little bit.

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Just up top.

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Just you need to know, I'm

pretty mad at Gaas Baltar.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: I, I specifically needed

to call that out for Ryan.

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Ryan, I'm talking to you.

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I know that you posted that very

funny meme of how Ellen Tai was

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deflecting rightful hate from Mr.

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Gais Baltar.

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But I'm ready, I'm ready

to just turn it all

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Xhafer: Right on.

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Guys.

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Laura: Baltar.

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Xhafer: Haven't seen

Ellen in a while, man.

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Can't we?

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For her to come.

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Fuck something up terribly.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Well, I mean, Hmm.

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Epiphany Sure.

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Sets up a lot of opportunities for

some of our side characters to come in

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and fuck something up terribly, right?

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Xhafer: But actually while we're

talking to Ryan we should probably

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call out your drinking out of

a We love lease mug right now.

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Laura: Oh yes, I sure am.

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Xhafer: got merch.

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It finally happened guys.

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We did it.

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Laura: We, we did it.

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We got

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Xhafer: We did it.

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We got there.

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We have a little merch

store live right now.

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I'm gonna go update the links

on our website to point to it.

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Um, or you can get it on the Discord.

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I don't know how much we're going

to advertise stuff, because that

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feels a little weird, I guess.

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Um, but we got some stuff on there.

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Uh, there's a couple running gags

from the show that have some merch.

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Laura: lease.

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Xhafer: has some merch, um, eat

Flo Praise Valent and Die has,

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uh, some merch, or lie, sorry,

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Laura: but Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Xhafer: We've got some generic podcast

art stuff as well for cool girls.

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And who are you and LTO

will have stuff eventually?

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Laura: Yeah.

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the, we love lease mug.

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I got it with the pink inside.

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I felt like that was very appropriate.

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So it is a, like, I love Lucy Hart with We

Love Lease and the I Love Lucy font on it.

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So, super fun.

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If you also love Lease, there's a t-shirt

or you can get a sticker or you can

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do the mug like me, whatever you want,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I've, I've gotten a t-shirt.

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They're comfy.

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The mugs seem to be pretty well done.

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Laura: Yeah.

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So this is mug like brand new

right now, so we'll let you know

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if it doesn't hold up in the

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wash.

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So, you know, maybe

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Xhafer: if, any of this ends up

turning out to be crap, we're gonna

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take it off the store for sure.

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But we, we feel pretty good about

the quality of the stuff so far.

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the stickers, the stickers are cool

and they're great for most purposes.

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I would not put them on something

that goes through a dishwasher.

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Laura: Okay, so not your Yeti water

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Xhafer: they don't really

feel substantial enough.

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Maybe they're fine.

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I haven't tried but they don't feel thick

enough to survive in the wash to me, so.

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Laura: Yeah, we ordered a couple

stickers, but they haven't got here yet.

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The first thing to arrive was my lease

mug, and so that's where we're at today.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: Yeah, so exciting.

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So maybe we can link that in

the show notes too, just in case

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you don't make it over to the

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Xhafer: yeah, yeah.

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We'll, we'll put it on stuff.

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We'll probably put it on the, uh,

the, the, like the blue sky and the

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Facebook feeds for a minute, but.

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The goal is to have more stuff there,

and if there's something that you want

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to buy from us that's not there, uh, just

get in the discord and say something.

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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If you're like, Hey, that was

a really funny joke, put it on

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Xhafer: yeah, I would wear, I would wear

a t-shirt that says that joke that you

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guys made that I would like to awkwardly

explain to my friends as they ask me

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where the fuck this t-shirt came from.

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If that's a thought that you

have, let us know and we'll,

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we'll put it on a t-shirt for you.

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Laura: sure.

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Xhafer: Um, that's how

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Laura: Especially if you

can bring the design.

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If you BYOD, like hell,

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you just did all the work.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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all right.

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we should probably get into the episode.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Which one is it?

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Xhafer: season two,

episode 13, epiphanies.

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Laura: Yeah, so we had a couple of really.

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Dramatic episodes that wrapped

up one of the best three

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parters of sci-fi television.

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Xhafer: good.

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Laura: And now we've got, uh, one

other dramatic thing that has yet

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to resolve is that throughout all

this business, Roslyn has been

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getting sicker and sicker and sicker.

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Xhafer: It's been bad,

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Laura: Yo

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Xhafer: but we don't start there.

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We flash back to 189 days ago,

the day of the attack, maybe

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the day before the attack.

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Laura: Did it give us the number of days?

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I just missed it.

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I was making notes about

what was happening.

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Okay.

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189 days ago.

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So it's been six months.

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It's been half a

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Xhafer: months on.

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Months.

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Laura: Wow.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: Rosalyn, we see her

get her initial diagnosis.

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And as she walks out of there to

talk to a teacher's union rep,

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she sees Baltar and Caprica six.

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Just make it out,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Hmm.

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Gotta wonder if this is real memories.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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It's like, she's like

reliving the flashback.

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Like she stops and notices stuff that

she clearly didn't notice before.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: so maybe this is,

uh, some Kamala stuff.

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I don't know.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Could be Kamala stuff, could be, you know,

we see in a little bit that she's got a

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file of the known CYS and six is right

on top in the folder and, you know, maybe

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she's confabulating some stuff in her

head, maybe some, some little synapses

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or connecting things together that she

didn't really know before, but now she's

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Xhafer: Piecing it all

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Laura: getting some ideas.

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I don't know, but it's not very useful to

her right now because she's actually like

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being rushed to the Med Bay by a Galactica

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Xhafer: Yeah, things are not good.

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She sees the light to theme even.

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It's real dramatic.

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Theme survivor count 49,598.

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This is down six from last episode,

which is Kane a guard in her

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office, and then four pilots.

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Laura: Wow.

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Yeah, I did forgot to go back and

check and I'm surprised that's how

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little they lost in the battle.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Even the like survivor tracker thing on a

WIA that I've been like verifying numbers

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with that are helping me, like, it's

like, oh, was this, this, was this, this?

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Because I'm like, that

doesn't seem like enough.

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And so I went on there and even

they were all like, yeah, it

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was, it's just four people in the

attack somehow is all that died?

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'cause we know these two people

definitely died and there's only six.

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So, uh, good job.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I guess that was a pretty

successful mission.

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Uh, before we move to after theme, I

wanted to point out that in Rosalyn's,

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like hallucinating the conversation with

the, um, education representative of the

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education union guy the, you know, it's

clearly very tense and she tells him that

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causes are only lost when we give up.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: It's pretty, pretty, uh,

on the nose for this moment.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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We get back uh, from theme

here and Starbuck and Kat are

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doing some, some flight stuff.

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It's not really sad.

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They're not, it doesn't

seem like a mission.

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Maybe it's some

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Laura: It seems like test

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Xhafer: some test flighty stuff.

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and cat's gun explodes damaging her wing.

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And it also, uh, sends

some debris into Starbucks.

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Starboard.

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Viewport.

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Laura: Yeah, like right into the

glass, which is a little scary.

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You like can like hear

it, like trying to crack

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Xhafer: Oh my God.

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It's so much listening to this

glass just crack as she's flying

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in, just looking at it every now

and then, as it just gets worse

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Laura: this is just like

glancing over like nervously.

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Xhafer: it's a little what,

and it keeps spidering.

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Right.

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And the way they cut it, because it's,

we like see them going into land.

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We hear the smash of the glass.

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We hear the glass shatter.

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And for a half second before it

cuts over to showing the chief

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destroying the glass panel.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: I was so mad.

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Laura: Ooh.

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O.

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Yeah.

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But before that too, like as they're

heading out to do this before the

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explosion, it's a little, um, it's a

little tense between these ladies, like,

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Kat is giving Starbucks some serious crap

about being late to this little thing.

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Do Dad and Starbuck is like not hearing

it and it, and then it becomes a nonissue

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because we have a bigger problem.

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But I was like, huh, do we

need to put a pin in that?

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Like pe are people getting frustrated

with Starbucks for some stuff?

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Like tired of star be's?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: She did kinda.

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Get close to Auntie Kain there over

on the Pegasus before she died.

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And I could see some people being kinda

mad about that on Galactica Dunno,

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: putting, putting a little

note, sticky note on that.

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Gonna come back to that.

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yeah.

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But Tyrell is like, I

checked her shit myself.

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This shouldn't have happened.

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Xhafer: the ship is fine.

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Laura: yeah.

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And, uh, goes to look at the, the ammo,

the bullets and realizes that they've been

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like, tampered with in such a way that

would cause the gun itself to explode.

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Xhafer: Kelly finds this, brings

it to the chief's attention.

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He grabs one of the bullets and

just breaks it with his bare hands.

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like

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how do you not freak the fuck out?

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Like Chief just grabs a bullet

and just snaps it like a slim Jim.

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and it's like if, if I were to see

someone grab a bullet and break it in

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half from like a ship away, I would

be screaming like, can you imagine not

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being a part of this conversation, but

being able to visually see this happen?

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The fuck I would

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Laura: be like, well

that's, that's not great.

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Xhafer: it's like an inch metal pipe

that he just snaps with his hands like.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Superhuman strength over here.

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Yeah.

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I would lose my shit for sure.

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Laura: Yeah.

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So I guess the idea is because

these have been hollowed out,

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they're now much more fragile.

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One would like not fire, get stuck in

the gun, and then the gun would explode.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: So yeah, that's super bad.

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Xhafer: Yep.

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Over in Med Bay Rosalyn refuses

Morfa as we flash back to her

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talking with President aar.

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And hey, it's Canadian TV

and film star calm Fre.

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We, of course know column Calm, uh,

as the star of one of the highest

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grossing films in Canada's history.

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Bond cop, bad cop.

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Laura: What?

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Xhafer: It's Bond cop, bad cop.

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Do you not know

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Bond

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Laura: can't be called

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that.

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Xhafer: a hundred percent is

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Laura: No.

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Xhafer: no.

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I.

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If you listener, if you go find Draft the

Universe, which is Ben and I's old podcast

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before from years ago, uh, we actually

did a lot watch episode of this movie.

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So this it, the, the premise is

a murder happens on the border

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between Ontario and Quebec.

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And so instead of good cop, bad Cop,

you've got like a good guy, straight

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laced Ontario cop, and then this wild

card Rogue Quebec qua cop, who's the bond

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Laura: huh.

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Xhafer: It's so good.

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This movie is much better

than it you would ever expect,

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although I, maybe I'm just remembering

it fondly and it's actually terrible, but

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Laura: Somebody's gonna go find

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Bon cop, bad cop.

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Go fucking look it up.

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This shit's great.

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this guy has 175 acting credits.

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He's real, that guy.

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He's in all kinds of shit.

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Laura: He's got that kind of face that,

um, I would probably never recognize.

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So everything, I saw him and

he would be a new person to me.

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Xhafer: He, I guarantee you.

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Like he's been in stuff you've watched,

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Laura: Yeah, but because I have that

white guy face blindness problem

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is, he's just a new dude every time.

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And that's, that's what you really

want into that guy though, right?

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Like you want him to be able to sort

of just sort of fade into a role?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Become the role and then be gone.

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Laura: Yes.

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Yes.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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So, uh, she wants to meet

with some striking teachers

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and he does not give a fuck.

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He says this line, one of the interesting

things about being president is that

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you don't have to explain yourself to

anyone, which when she comes to, in

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a couple of minutes, she parrots to a

dama, kado and Baltar after telling them

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to force Sharon to have an abortion.

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Laura: Yeah, apparently AAR wanted to

send in the National Guard on these

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teachers, and she was like, sure that

she could get this done without, you

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know, bloodshed because it seems like

that's where this was all heading.

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he drops his phrase there that I'm

president, I don't have to explain myself.

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But it's too late.

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Like she's already gone rogue.

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She's already having the conversation

or scheduled the conversation

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is not totally clear, but I

think she's already scheduled it

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at this point.

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Xhafer: She's got plans.

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Laura: Yeah.

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But the, the thing that like pushes

the issue with Sharon's baby is that

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Coddle has been running tests as

medical doctors want to do, right?

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Especially in case of unknown,

probably high risk pregnancy,

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right?

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Normal responsible doctor stuff.

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And he's found some anomalies,

but apparently Gais has also

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looked at this stuff and he's

like, no, no, no, it's fine.

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It's fine, it's fine,

it's fine, it's fine.

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He's waving his hands everywhere

to get you to look anywhere, but

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at the test results and Rosalyn

is, is far too concerned about any

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sort of genetic anomalies in this

thing, and that's her reasoning for.

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Issuing the termination order.

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Um,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: but yeah, at this point

no one has made clear what

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these genetic anomalies are.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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It's just shit's weird.

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We don't know what it is.

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Laura: Yeah.

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And it's like, well that was

probably gonna happen, right?

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Shit was gonna be weird and you

wouldn't totally understand it.

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'cause this has never happened before.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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It's a new thing.

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So it, it's expected to be fucking

weird, which is Baltar's position on it.

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And he's all like, what are we

fucking even talking about this for?

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This is crazy.

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Like, of course it's weird.

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Uh, and then Papa Domas just all

like, pull yourself together, man.

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You're about to be the fucking president.

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Laura: Uh, Papa DAMA is so not wrong here.

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Like, 'cause immediately as

they're leaving, you know.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: They've left Rosalyn's, sick

bed, he and Adama in the hallway.

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And Gais is just like desperately whining

and pitching like she's not in her right

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mind and adama's like, I don't care.

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Like you, you need to

get your shit together.

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You seem far too, like, I

don't know manic about this.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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And this is when, uh, six PT shows

up for the first time in weeks.

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Laura: yeah, apparently because

we've been told what that it, it

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is a couple weeks since Pegasus,

the whole Every Pegasus thing.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: it has been a couple of

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weeks.

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We don't get an exact timeframe

on it, nor do we really need one.

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Laura: yeah.

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I think it was at least three.

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but yeah, he asked where she's been like

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: he's been alone for a bit.

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And, uh, she says that

it's not her that left.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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That's absurd because of

course it was her that left.

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But you know, whatever, they have

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Laura: I don't know.

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I mean, what if, what if she

really still is baltar psychosis?

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Like he just turned away from

his psychosis for a little bit.

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'cause we still don't have a

definitive answer on what six PT is.

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Right?

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We, we've got the angel answer.

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It's still, I don't think it's

off the board that she's like a

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consciousness that didn't make it to

the home world or the resurrection

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ship and somehow put herself in him.

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Or he's just a really big weirdo

who's dissociated into this other

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personality as well to make him

make decisions he wants to make,

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but feels like he needs to justify.

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I don't know.

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Xhafer: Yeah, I mean, we'll probably talk

about it at length when the show ends.

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Laura: Oh God.

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Is it gonna be like

unclear the whole time?

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Xhafer: not, I'm I'm not

going to answer that question

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Laura: Oh,

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Xhafer: you know, I can't

answer that question.

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Laura: Yeah, I

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Xhafer: You know, I have to say, we'll

talk about it when the show ends.

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You know, I'll say, we'll

figure it out later.

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'cause I can't tell you.

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So

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Laura: Yeah.

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Boo.

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Xhafer: doesn't necessarily

mean that that's the case, but,

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Laura: Yeah.

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But, uh, six PT is back and concerned

about him and his relationship with Gina.

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Xhafer: What's up with Gina?

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You've been spending some time

with Gina, you'd tell me, right?

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If you tell me Gina like,

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Laura: Um, yeah.

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And she thinks he's gonna go

wrong with destroying the baby.

416

:

And he's just like, well, I can't.

417

:

It is Papa Doa, like, I'm

powerless against Papa Jama.

418

:

Xhafer: I.

419

:

Six PT feels off to me this

episode, both here and later because

420

:

everything up to this point has

been, Sharon's baby is our baby.

421

:

You need to save our baby.

422

:

And in this, it's all like, yeah,

but become the president though.

423

:

Like, president, like you're about to be

the president and you're about to get some

424

:

real power here, like as the president.

425

:

'cause you're gonna be

the president, right?

426

:

And not like save our child

427

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

428

:

Xhafer: like I would expect her to be.

429

:

Like, she's been characterized

as for 13 episodes at this point.

430

:

Laura: Yeah.

431

:

Yeah.

432

:

What if, what if it's both?

433

:

What if he did have or does have a

six pt, like a six consciousness in

434

:

there, but also sometimes he makes up

a different six consciousness to push

435

:

him towards what this stuff he wants.

436

:

Like, oh, there's the face.

437

:

Like you know, there's the six PT

that is real, or really in there.

438

:

And then there's the six PT

that is convenient for me.

439

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

440

:

Laura: Me Gais.

441

:

Baltar the only one who

matters in the universe

442

:

Xhafer: that is his feels.

443

:

Uh, So, uh, yeah, I don't

know if you caught it.

444

:

Uh, they, they focus a lot

on it at the end, but this

445

:

happens the entire conversation.

446

:

'cause he's like having a yelling

match with her in a hallway

447

:

Laura: Yes.

448

:

And this is so weird.

449

:

There are so many people watching this

and looking at him like he's a weirdo.

450

:

Xhafer: It's so good because it doesn't

just start, like there's a moment

451

:

where like she grabs his tie and then

he grabs his tie to like, stop her.

452

:

And it's just him holding the tie out

there and everyone's looking at him like

453

:

he's choking himself in the hallway.

454

:

But well before this,

just sometimes he'd yell.

455

:

People will turn and look at

him in the background and stuff.

456

:

Like they're really genuinely reacting

the whole time and it's so good.

457

:

Laura: I am ready for people to figure

out who this motherfucker really is.

458

:

Like I am ready out yourself.

459

:

Gaia Baltar.

460

:

Let people see you're a moron.

461

:

And they did some really

good like circle cam stuff.

462

:

Like they're like 360 kind of

viewing of the people around

463

:

him, seeing his weird behavior.

464

:

So the camera work was extra fun

465

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

466

:

And this was back before

cameras fit in your pocket.

467

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

468

:

Xhafer: I mean, the show was

shot on, hd on not small cameras.

469

:

I just, uh, watched, uh, we, Beth and I

went to the theater we saw 28 years later,

470

:

Laura: Oh,

471

:

Xhafer: I read after that it

was shot entirely on iPhones,

472

:

Laura: I heard that too.

473

:

Yeah.

474

:

Xhafer: I mean, there's a couple shots

that probably would've been hard to

475

:

do with normal sized cinema cameras.

476

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

477

:

Xhafer: And we saw it in imax, like we

didn't see it in like a small format.

478

:

And it did not even occur to

me that it was shot on iPhones

479

:

the entire time we watched it.

480

:

Laura: Wow.

481

:

Yeah, I, that's one that I heard about it

and I, I saw the original 28 days later.

482

:

I don't remember if I saw

28 weeks later or not.

483

:

'cause I, you know, how I am about

zombie movies, like zombie movies

484

:

are difficult for me for reasons.

485

:

And definitely have read the plot of

28 weeks later if I didn't see it.

486

:

And so when I heard 28 years

later come out, I was like, well,

487

:

I guess I'm gonna read the plot.

488

:

So I've already done that.

489

:

I don't know if I'll see it or not.

490

:

I don't, I don't think

491

:

Xhafer: Uh, I won't say anything

on pod because it's a, it's a movie

492

:

in theaters.

493

:

Um, I enjoyed it up to

the last 10 minutes.

494

:

Laura: Okay.

495

:

Xhafer: it's all like, oh, well, we've

already announced that we made two of

496

:

these back to back and we need a sequel.

497

:

And that plot in that first half wrapped

up real nice, so let's just make sure

498

:

we give him a reason to come back.

499

:

And it is just all, that's when

I was just all like, the fuck.

500

:

Like, like it wasn't like, I don't know.

501

:

It was, it was totally jarring

is all I'll say about it.

502

:

Here it listeners, if you

want to talk about it, we'll

503

:

talk about it in the Discord.

504

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

505

:

So, I dunno I probably won't see

it is my guess, but maybe someday.

506

:

Um, oh, yes.

507

:

And at the end of all this six PT

reminds Gais that he has a nuke.

508

:

He never did anything with that

509

:

Xhafer: Yep.

510

:

Still got

511

:

that Nuke,

512

:

DMA calls up Helo to tell him the

news about, what the president

513

:

has decided with regards to, uh,

Sharon's pregnancy, who honestly

514

:

handles it better than expected.

515

:

And by that I mean

doesn't punch Adam dama.

516

:

Laura: yeah.

517

:

I felt like this was actually

a very mature conversation

518

:

between both of these men.

519

:

Like, we don't really

know what Adama thinks.

520

:

He never says what he thinks about it.

521

:

He's being very good military

man in that way of being like.

522

:

This is the decision and we're

doing the decision and he doesn't

523

:

like try to justify himself or

524

:

anything to Hilo.

525

:

And he says, I don't expect you to agree,

526

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

527

:

Laura: but you need to accept it.

528

:

Xhafer: I mean, that's his stance.

529

:

I don't think he agrees.

530

:

I think he accepts,

531

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

532

:

Xhafer: So

533

:

Laura: And Hilo basically

says like, I can't do that.

534

:

Like, this is my child, and what

kind of father would I be, you know,

535

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

536

:

Laura: if I accept

537

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

538

:

Do you have any feelings about, you

know, your kid dying, Papa pama?

539

:

Anything you wanna talk about

540

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

541

:

Yeah.

542

:

Anybody recently take your

son away from you for a while?

543

:

Xhafer: Wicked over to CIC where Ty Lee

and the al discuss the munitions issue.

544

:

Uh, he gets Lee on the investigation

here and it immediately cuts

545

:

like it's a very short scene.

546

:

It's like, Lee, you're in charge

figuring it out, and then it's Lee going

547

:

to like question someone immediately.

548

:

Laura: no.

549

:

So when I, when the show does

this and, and I'm like, uhoh, you

550

:

wrap that up really fast, which

must mean something more dramatic

551

:

is going to happen, you know?

552

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

553

:

Laura: but they were arguing in this

scene a little bit about, like Leah said,

554

:

okay, nobody goes, no flights this bad.

555

:

No flights.

556

:

And Ty is like, well,

now we're defenseless.

557

:

And Adama was like, We were already

defenseless because we had bad ammo.

558

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

559

:

Like this was, it would've

been much, much worse.

560

:

Laura: Yeah.

561

:

Like if we tried to shoot this

stuff, we are just as defenseless

562

:

as we are without anybody flying.

563

:

Like, no good, no good.

564

:

So yes, we do that dramatic cut where it's

like, oh, we've already figured this out.

565

:

So something even more dramatic

is on the other side of

566

:

this.

567

:

And they find this lady

whose name is Asha Yannick

568

:

Xhafer: And she, when they go to be like,

uh, Asha, uh, we have some questions.

569

:

She just like starts screaming

like, the silos aren't the enemy.

570

:

The military is keeping this

conflict going to maintain control

571

:

over the civilian population.

572

:

This is all a fucking

false flag operation.

573

:

She is really been digging, uh,

fleet infowars, and it has not

574

:

been good for her mental health.

575

:

Laura: For real.

576

:

And I couldn't help but think

like about the information

577

:

asymmetry in this whole situation.

578

:

Like there's so many things that

have happened and because we are

579

:

on Galactica, you know, this is

Battlestar Galactica, the TV show,

580

:

not Cloud nine, and all the, hey,

581

:

hey, maybe, maybe good tv.

582

:

But anyway, Battlestar Galactica is

not always where the fleet is, right?

583

:

Doing stuff.

584

:

So they're just kind of getting like

galactic's word for it sometimes,

585

:

and they're not really processing the

information of like how bad things are

586

:

and like, clearly the information on

the known, all the known silos is not

587

:

being dis disseminated to everyone for,

you know, security reasons and whatever.

588

:

But still in that sort of lack of

substantial information environment,

589

:

the rumors and the stories and the

other ideas have really flourished

590

:

apparently, because we've got pamphlets,

591

:

Xhafer: Not only do we have pamphlets,

we have bizarre fucking pamphlets.

592

:

Did you clock this?

593

:

This trifold pamphlet that has

594

:

Laura: of red and black.

595

:

Xhafer: it had normal corners?

596

:

Where the fuck did they get this

597

:

Laura: clearly this is evil,

silent, like generated propaganda.

598

:

Yeah.

599

:

Xhafer: Only silences have normal sheets

of paper that are squares or rectangles.

600

:

Like this is some bullshit and

it's just, it is a normal sheet

601

:

of paper, just trifold like where

arm of fucking missing corners.

602

:

Laura: We thought as Adama entire,

like reading these pamphlets and

603

:

super disgusted that they were

disgusted with the material within the

604

:

pamphlet, like the words and stuff.

605

:

But I think it's the paper.

606

:

Xhafer: It's the corners, the, the

presence of normal 90 degree corners

607

:

has offended them so thoroughly to their

core that they immediately go to treason.

608

:

Laura: Yeah.

609

:

Yeah.

610

:

No one can trust anyone who's

got corners on their shit.

611

:

Xhafer: No, 90 degree corners allowed.

612

:

Those be the rules.

613

:

Laura: Mm mm So Adama says that the

subversives have made contact, so

614

:

they've got a leader who wants a

meeting and he's gonna give it to them.

615

:

Which, of course Ty is super

offended at this, right?

616

:

But he says, no, no, no, no.

617

:

I'm giving them this meeting because

I wanna see what I'm up against.

618

:

Not because I care about

anything that they have to

619

:

Xhafer: Yeah, he's gonna show up

and we're just gonna arrest his ass.

620

:

It's easy.

621

:

Got the leader done.

622

:

Problem solved.

623

:

Laura flashes back again to

talking to the teacher union rep.

624

:

She said that this thing

isn't worth dying over.

625

:

As the president talks further about

deploying the military in some regard

626

:

to make the teachers work, which yikes,

627

:

Laura: Yeah.

628

:

Xhafer: nothing says, let's

encourage critical thinking like

629

:

pointing guns at teachers to force

them to tell kids how to think.

630

:

Laura: Hmm.

631

:

And all of this, like in one of these

flashbacks, we learned that these teachers

632

:

are upset about low pay and substandard

facilities and bad working conditions.

633

:

And I'm just like, oh, okay.

634

:

Xhafer: yeah,

635

:

Laura: You mean like my son's

elementary school down the street?

636

:

Xhafer: yeah.

637

:

Like, like, like most schools,

638

:

Laura: Huh.

639

:

This timeline is not my favorite.

640

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

641

:

Laura: Okay.

642

:

So, she calls for dot coddle at

the end of her flashback, and

643

:

Adama and Ty meet with Rohan.

644

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

645

:

Laura: He says he is only an interested

party in preventing bloodshed and that.

646

:

The fleet should surrender and

try to work with the CYS in peace.

647

:

Xhafer: He's like, they attacked us.

648

:

Fuck off.

649

:

Laura: Yeah.

650

:

Um, this is, this is where I was really

like, there's some big information

651

:

asymmetry here because these people,

if you've seen like from Galactus,

652

:

'cause point of view is we have, like,

there has never been a silent ship

653

:

that just showed up, like waving a

white flag and we just shot 'em down.

654

:

You know, like every silent ship

that shows up is guns a blazing?

655

:

Like,

656

:

Xhafer: fact, this whole

thing started with humanity.

657

:

Going to the thing to talk about

peace terms with the silences like

658

:

they, like they do every fucking

year, and the silence finally showing

659

:

up and blowing it the fuck up.

660

:

Laura: Yeah.

661

:

Like, I guess, does anyone

know about that really?

662

:

Xhafer: not.

663

:

Laura: Yeah, I, I'm not thinking,

I'm thinking they don't, right,

664

:

because basically we just sent

out like one dude in a ship.

665

:

Well,

666

:

Xhafer: Like I just, I don't understand,

like, it seems like this is way

667

:

too early for this type of thought.

668

:

Like your colonies were

genocided six months ago.

669

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

670

:

Xhafer: Can you imagine just

saying, stop defending ourselves.

671

:

Try to reach out.

672

:

'cause even at Do Hall, like you

don't mean peace, you mean surrender.

673

:

Right.

674

:

Because that's the only thing we could try

to, and that's just gonna get us killed.

675

:

Laura: Yeah.

676

:

There's nothing, no reason, no

thing that's happened that points

677

:

to like, oh, maybe they, maybe they

would accept or surrender even.

678

:

this is, this is a

little bit of a stretch.

679

:

Maybe,

680

:

Xhafer: For

681

:

Laura: you know, a.

682

:

A couple of years down the line, I

could see people feeling this way.

683

:

but I guess maybe humans do

really have the short of a memory.

684

:

I, I, I can't speak to that

with any confidence anymore.

685

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

686

:

Royans like, look, I'm just a person.

687

:

You get, you know,

you'd do anything to me.

688

:

This is still going.

689

:

And Dom was all like, cool.

690

:

But it's a start.

691

:

Throw in the Bri.

692

:

Laura: He's like, we're

following an idea, not a person.

693

:

And I don't know.

694

:

You get enough people with

the idea, and then maybe the

695

:

idea is not a problem anymore

696

:

is Thea approach.

697

:

Xhafer: Lee and Star Be's are going

through ASHA's stuff and they find

698

:

plans for the Tillium refiner.

699

:

Lee orders a team ready immediately.

700

:

A strike team

701

:

Laura: They were so close.

702

:

They were so close.

703

:

this is the second time in this episode.

704

:

I think that we've, we were so

close to having like some character

705

:

development because you know, we had

the fight with Kat and Star bes earlier

706

:

and now Star Bes as they're pulling

stuff outta the box is like, so we

707

:

haven't talked since your spacewalk.

708

:

And then Lee immediately finds the other

thing is like no time for spacewalk,

709

:

no time to talk about my sadly era.

710

:

Like we need to go to the Tillium refiner.

711

:

Xhafer: Ready?

712

:

Fucking now we're doing it.

713

:

Laura: Yeah.

714

:

Xhafer: Hilo tells Sharon the

president's decision and she

715

:

reacts how I expected Hilo to

716

:

Laura: yeah.

717

:

Yeah.

718

:

She's distraught.

719

:

Um, and nobody's, nobody's talked

about the genetic abnormalities yet.

720

:

He just says, I don't know.

721

:

They found something in the baby's

blood that, that they're worried about,

722

:

and they think the baby

needs to be terminated

723

:

Xhafer: is so amorphous that it's like

all talk Caddle had to say is, I'm

724

:

not convinced it's not a pathogen.

725

:

Laura: mm-hmm.

726

:

Xhafer: Just like if you make it

sound like the baby's accidentally

727

:

harboring a biological weapon

that's going to kill everyone and

728

:

you can't prove that it's not.

729

:

Laura: Yeah.

730

:

Xhafer: I feel like you get

a lot more legitimate to me.

731

:

To your concerns here compared to

the, I don't know, the baby's weird.

732

:

Laura: It's got weird blood,

733

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

734

:

Laura: it's got ghosts in it's

735

:

blood like we used to.

736

:

Uh,

737

:

Xhafer: this baby?

738

:

Yes.

739

:

Laura: she's, she's talking about how

she suppressed her rage for nothing and

740

:

we start seeing that rage, um, pacing

the floor, yelling, uh, let them come

741

:

and try to take this baby and just

like smashing her head against the

742

:

glass, breaking the glass, and then

helos trying to beg her to calm down.

743

:

But the guards rush in

with their guns drawn.

744

:

Xhafer: Apollo and the Marines

get close to the Tillium freighter

745

:

and they hear one of those.

746

:

I sacrifice my life for my children

and my children's children messages

747

:

and Lee's just like, get the fuck out

748

:

Laura: Back up, back up, back up.

749

:

Xhafer: Just barely.

750

:

Do they avoid getting exploded as

you see people get vented into space?

751

:

Laura: I know, I know.

752

:

And you know, those

weren't military people.

753

:

Those were just the refiner workers.

754

:

Like they were just showing up, punching

the clock, doing their jobs, and,

755

:

Hmm.

756

:

Xhafer: Yep.

757

:

A Donna's pretty pissed.

758

:

He chokes out the one guy as, uh,

Ballar gets a tour of Colonial one.

759

:

Billy gives him a letter from Rosalyn

per tradition as the presidency

760

:

changes, and Billy gets a phone

call, but it's for Gais who is

761

:

immediately on a Raptor to Cloud nine.

762

:

Laura: He gets pretty upset when he

opens the known Cylons folder and sees

763

:

six right on top.

764

:

He's got Fifis about that.

765

:

And yeah, he gets that, that call.

766

:

I was like, oh, is this a Don

or is this something else?

767

:

And surprise,

768

:

It's

769

:

it's, Gina, but on his way he's

doodling a bunch of hexagons

770

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

771

:

Laura: on his

772

:

Xhafer: he's, he's doodling.

773

:

Uh, yeah.

774

:

So, uh, Gina's hanging out

with the S Peace Ke Pacers.

775

:

I don't know what to call them.

776

:

Who don't know that she's a s

777

:

Laura: Oh, yes, yes.

778

:

Immediately, like once they're alone

guys is like, do they know what you are?

779

:

Xhafer: like, of course not.

780

:

Laura: She's like, no, that would,

even, their dedication has limits.

781

:

They can't know who I am.

782

:

and that in and of itself

says a lot about Gina to me.

783

:

Don't trust Gina.

784

:

I know she went through some shit

and I know that that shit shouldn't

785

:

have happened to her, but, Hmm.

786

:

Not good.

787

:

Not good.

788

:

And then Gaas fucking gaas,

789

:

Xhafer: Gais.

790

:

Laura: he like is obsessed with all of

the sixes and all this head time with

791

:

six PT has not been useful to him.

792

:

'Cause he just wanted one

he could really touch.

793

:

Xhafer: Duh.

794

:

God.

795

:

He goes to kiss Gina.

796

:

She is not interested in that.

797

:

Laura: She freaks the fuck out.

798

:

Rightfully so.

799

:

Xhafer: for sure.

800

:

Laura: just 'cause you're the good man

who saved her doesn't mean that you're

801

:

like not distressing in that way, like

802

:

Xhafer: does this make you think that

Caprica six never uploaded, like if

803

:

she doesn't have, if she had Caprica

six's memories of their relationship,

804

:

that she might've acted differently

here, or she's so fundamentally a

805

:

different person because of her trauma

at this point that it doesn't matter.

806

:

Laura: It feels really likely

that Caprica six didn't upload in

807

:

general to me because he said that

thing to Gina about the Pyramid

808

:

Xhafer: Yeah, he, yeah, he's quoted her.

809

:

Laura: and she didn't seem to

clock that as like anything.

810

:

Xhafer: So it's like, I could see

being played either way, uh, from

811

:

the story perspective, I'm try, I'm

trying not to say anything that I

812

:

don't think I should at this point.

813

:

But I'm just curious about

your thoughts on that.

814

:

Like, is it, you think it's the

upload, not that it's the trauma?

815

:

I mean, it could

816

:

Laura: I think, yeah, I think.

817

:

I think it's the upload she,

Caprica six did not upload.

818

:

I think she went into Gaia's body somehow.

819

:

Um, or you know, maybe, maybe

this Gina wasn't near enough to

820

:

do an upload, like, or to get any

sort of download or something.

821

:

So maybe Gina's just the one

outta the loop and all the other

822

:

sixes know about everything.

823

:

I don't know.

824

:

'Cause we know that, you know, Pegasus

was keeping far enough away from stuff

825

:

that perhaps they weren't able to

send any sort of data back and forth.

826

:

Yeah.

827

:

So I don't know.

828

:

But whatever, she's well within her

rights to feel this way no matter what.

829

:

Even if she

830

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

831

:

Oh, Yeah.

832

:

Yeah.

833

:

Oh yeah.

834

:

No, I'm not trying to do,

invalidate our actions in any way.

835

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

836

:

And the fact that Gaas thinks

it should be just fucking fine.

837

:

He's a lunatic.

838

:

He clearly has no.

839

:

Ability to think about anyone

else, even the person he's

840

:

quote unquote in love with.

841

:

Xhafer: Oh, Yeah.

842

:

Yeah.

843

:

Do sociopath, narcissist class a hun.

844

:

Laura: So fuck this guy.

845

:

And, and, uh, she's, she's doing, she's

riding hard again for kind of the 62 line.

846

:

Like, I can save you, the fleet is

crumbling, you're gonna be president,

847

:

and you can turn against Adama,

and we don't have to deal with him.

848

:

Uh, So the silence will save us all.

849

:

Like, they'll come save us somehow.

850

:

I don't know.

851

:

It's very unclear.

852

:

But he's feeling hurt and rejected

853

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

854

:

Laura: and he's also had ideas from his

doodles and, oh, it's not quite here.

855

:

I'll, I'll tell you, there's an important

spot where I need to stop for a second.

856

:

But

857

:

Xhafer: Do we get Rosalyn's

flashback before that?

858

:

Laura: Yes.

859

:

So, but he tells Gina that he's not gonna

be responsible for the destruction of

860

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

861

:

Laura: except he kind of already

862

:

Xhafer: Well, I mean, not completely.

863

:

He won't finish the job.

864

:

Laura: Yeah.

865

:

I, I started the job, but I

won't be the one to finish it,

866

:

except maybe you will guys.

867

:

I don't know.

868

:

Xhafer: Rosalyn we find out was having

a little sneaky sexy with a Dar.

869

:

Laura: Hmm.

870

:

Huh.

871

:

Xhafer: This makes a doma

calling him an idiot.

872

:

Like a thousand times

better in retrospect.

873

:

Laura: does.

874

:

Yeah.

875

:

Yeah, yeah.

876

:

Also, um, girl, well, I guess mostly

we've seen Adama attracted to her.

877

:

Um, not it's, it's not that she's like.

878

:

I don't know roundly rejected him or

anything, but it does seem like he's

879

:

the one who has a little bit of a crush,

more, more of a crush than she does.

880

:

But I was like, huh?

881

:

Men with power, huh?

882

:

And Aart not that far from Adama.

883

:

Xhafer: Yeah, it's really the name thing.

884

:

Uh, She's just, she's really

worried about messing up a name.

885

:

It's, it's an anxiety thing,

so she just wants guys with

886

:

the exact same name always.

887

:

So she never has to worry

about fucking it up.

888

:

Laura: Yeah, it'll be all right.

889

:

It'll be fine.

890

:

But yeah, she goes to meet with

him again and he's very sorry

891

:

about their little spat earlier.

892

:

she says, well, hey, I went ahead

and met with the guy, and he's

893

:

like, oh, no, what did you do?

894

:

Xhafer: Mm.

895

:

Yeah.

896

:

Laura: So.

897

:

And we don't even get

any like real details.

898

:

She just basically got them to go back to

work by giving them a couple concessions.

899

:

But we don't get any details

what those concessions were.

900

:

Xhafer: It doesn't matter because

uh, any concessions means that

901

:

everyone else is gonna strike now,

and it's all gonna be a DARS problem.

902

:

I.

903

:

Laura: Yeah.

904

:

Yeah.

905

:

And he thinks that this has gone

so poorly, you know, nobody dying

906

:

that he wants her to resign.

907

:

Xhafer: I think this is

908

:

supposed to come off as more traumatic

than it is because it's all like, well,

909

:

if she was gonna be, you know, not the,

the secretary of education, then she would

910

:

be removed from the line of secession.

911

:

So, you know, what's the point that

she's not really the president?

912

:

You know, I think it's supposed

to like vibe that way with

913

:

us, but it just seems so

914

:

Laura: oh.

915

:

No, I was just like, he's

such a petty little bitch.

916

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

917

:

Laura: And this is where she says, well,

I'm gonna go do my shit on Galactica.

918

:

I have to do this whole historical

preservation ceremony and then you

919

:

can come take my job from my cold dead

920

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

921

:

We'll talk about it after, and by

talk about it, I mean, get fucked.

922

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah

923

:

Xhafer: Adama gets on the ship pa to

ask for thoughts and prayers for Rosalyn

924

:

as a team comes to subdue Sharon.

925

:

Laura: So this right before the team

coming to Subdue Sharon, like as

926

:

Adama's doing his thoughts and prayers

over the calm and we're seeing where

927

:

he'd reactions throughout the ship I

told Aaron to pause and I turned and

928

:

I looked at him and I said, I bet you

any second now, Gais Baltar is gonna

929

:

come running in here with a cure for

cancer using cylon baby stem cells.

930

:

Xhafer: Very close.

931

:

Very, very close.

932

:

Laura: Close enough, I think.

933

:

Right?

934

:

We're in horseshoe hand grenade territory.

935

:

I think I get this one.

936

:

Xhafer: If this were

LTO, you'd get the point.

937

:

Laura: Yeah.

938

:

Yeah, yeah,

939

:

so now Sharon is fighting.

940

:

Xhafer: Sharon's fighting.

941

:

They give her a shot of something that

seems to make her mostly unconscious.

942

:

They start to bring her into Med Bay.

943

:

Hilo goes to block them, which

buys like Baltar the 45 seconds.

944

:

He needs to run in and intervene.

945

:

And he tells Thea that

the baby has con blood.

946

:

Con, you know, con blood, you know,

like from Star Trek into darkness,

947

:

Laura: Oh

948

:

Xhafer: that plot point, right?

949

:

Kirk is dying of radiation poisoning at

the end of that movie because he changed

950

:

places with Spock and the Chamber.

951

:

That was like only vol could survive,

but not really because they have

952

:

better constitutions than humans.

953

:

And, you know, Spock was able to do

the thing that would've killed the

954

:

human instantly because he's Vulcan.

955

:

But Kirk did it for some

reason, in, into darkness, and

956

:

it didn't kill him instantly.

957

:

Uh, and instead of remaking

Star Trek three and four as

958

:

well, they just said, fuck it.

959

:

Khanna's Miracle Blood.

960

:

You don't, no, no, no

one else remembers that.

961

:

No, I remember it.

962

:

Fuck you.

963

:

JJ Abrams

964

:

Laura: I am pretty sure I saw that movie.

965

:

Maybe, maybe I didn't.

966

:

I don't know, but I don't remember that.

967

:

Xhafer: it.

968

:

The, the best scene of that movie.

969

:

Which is a terrible fucking movie is where

they did that role reversal and Kirk's

970

:

in the chamber instead of Spock and says

the thing uh, you know, you have been in

971

:

a Shelby, my friend, as he's like dying.

972

:

Uh, and then they like instantly

revive him and just say, fuck it.

973

:

We're not doing the one

with the whales again.

974

:

Laura: what a bad call.

975

:

I love the one with the

976

:

Xhafer: Right.

977

:

The one with the whales is great.

978

:

Laura: It's fucking fabulous.

979

:

Great

980

:

movie.

981

:

Yeah, so apparently I, as I was

thinking about it, Jair, I think

982

:

you and I might be as close to

cylons as we can possibly get right

983

:

now.

984

:

cause we have the, we

have the magic blood.

985

:

Xhafer: We got magic blood.

986

:

Laura: It's not the most magic blood

apparently, but we've got magic

987

:

Xhafer: It's magic blood.

988

:

Laura: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

989

:

So we get Hilo to stand down

and Gaia techno babbles about

990

:

how the fetus has no blood type.

991

:

That's the weird thing.

992

:

That's the, the big

reveal of the weird thing.

993

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

994

:

Laura: And

995

:

Xhafer: blood.

996

:

Laura: magic blood, no blood type.

997

:

We, they probably have

heightened resistance to disease,

998

:

which seems legit, right?

999

:

Especially if like, you can only

produce 12 models of these things.

:

00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:59,193

Like can you imagine if you didn't

try to heighten resistance to disease?

:

00:48:59,193 --> 00:49:04,623

You'd get, like, you'd go to like caprica

and pick up a bug from somebody, and

:

00:49:04,623 --> 00:49:06,843

then all of that model is just like gone.

:

00:49:06,843 --> 00:49:07,953

'cause they're all exactly the same.

:

00:49:09,693 --> 00:49:09,983

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:49:09,983 --> 00:49:12,463

It'd be crazy if that happens

at some point in this story.

:

00:49:13,274 --> 00:49:13,544

Laura: Oh,

:

00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:18,559

Xhafer: Anyways.

:

00:49:19,604 --> 00:49:22,154

Laura: are we gonna like war the

worlds, these bitches we're gonna

:

00:49:22,154 --> 00:49:27,584

come up with a, a thing that,

you know, the Except no wait.

:

00:49:27,584 --> 00:49:27,764

Yeah.

:

00:49:27,764 --> 00:49:30,884

It was War the worlds where

it was a literal virus instead

:

00:49:30,884 --> 00:49:31,874

of Independence Day, where

:

00:49:31,979 --> 00:49:35,852

Xhafer: It, uh, it wore the worlds,

I believe it was the common cold

:

00:49:36,392 --> 00:49:38,432

that kills all the aliens instantly.

:

00:49:38,432 --> 00:49:39,077

But yes,

:

00:49:39,527 --> 00:49:40,487

Laura: yes, yes, yes.

:

00:49:40,817 --> 00:49:41,327

Okay.

:

00:49:41,567 --> 00:49:42,437

Interesting,

:

00:49:42,632 --> 00:49:43,382

Xhafer: of the face there.

:

00:49:43,382 --> 00:49:43,922

Listener

:

00:49:45,557 --> 00:49:47,477

Laura: It was some good, good face moves.

:

00:49:47,477 --> 00:49:47,747

Yeah.

:

00:49:48,777 --> 00:49:49,612

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:49:49,612 --> 00:49:53,212

So if we just give her

some of these stem cells,

:

00:49:53,707 --> 00:49:55,357

Xhafer: yeah, just give

her some baby blood.

:

00:49:55,972 --> 00:49:59,422

Laura: then it's gonna go

kill the cancer, we think.

:

00:49:59,677 --> 00:50:02,227

Xhafer: He's got these slides and

it's all like, what am I looking at?

:

00:50:02,227 --> 00:50:03,997

This is an empty Petri dish.

:

00:50:04,237 --> 00:50:05,527

He's like, exactly.

:

00:50:07,477 --> 00:50:08,467

I took a picture of an

:

00:50:08,512 --> 00:50:08,872

Laura: is like.

:

00:50:09,892 --> 00:50:14,182

I, at some point in all of this,

I got some blood outta that baby.

:

00:50:14,482 --> 00:50:19,462

Like as apparently, I guess maybe he

and Doc Coddle both used some samples

:

00:50:19,462 --> 00:50:22,942

that were taken at some point or

something, and I got some blood outta

:

00:50:22,942 --> 00:50:26,752

this baby and I took some of Rosalyn's

cancer cells and they killed him.

:

00:50:26,752 --> 00:50:27,472

They're gone.

:

00:50:28,552 --> 00:50:32,602

And, uh, we need to just take more cells

from this baby and give them to Rosalyn.

:

00:50:33,082 --> 00:50:36,292

And, uh, dot coddle is like not,

:

00:50:37,282 --> 00:50:38,932

Xhafer: That's not how this works.

:

00:50:39,172 --> 00:50:41,272

That's not how blood works.

:

00:50:43,089 --> 00:50:47,139

But she has like a seizure after it

gets injected with this baby blood and

:

00:50:47,139 --> 00:50:50,709

then like 30 seconds later she's just

like, starts to come out of it and she's

:

00:50:51,009 --> 00:50:51,594

Laura: Oh, no, no, no.

:

00:50:51,729 --> 00:50:54,219

We are, we're missing her

last hallucination though.

:

00:50:54,759 --> 00:50:55,299

Xhafer: Oh yes.

:

00:50:55,299 --> 00:50:55,479

Yeah.

:

00:50:55,479 --> 00:50:58,269

We do get one last,

one last hallucination.

:

00:50:59,289 --> 00:51:03,189

Laura: She has one last hallucination

where she tells Stan, like, you guys, no

:

00:51:03,189 --> 00:51:06,189

more violence, no more civil disobedience.

:

00:51:06,819 --> 00:51:08,439

Get the students back to school.

:

00:51:08,439 --> 00:51:09,489

And he's like, you know what?

:

00:51:10,179 --> 00:51:11,109

I'm glad you called.

:

00:51:11,259 --> 00:51:11,919

I agree.

:

00:51:11,979 --> 00:51:12,669

This is right.

:

00:51:12,849 --> 00:51:16,749

So they never say what she agreed to.

:

00:51:17,889 --> 00:51:20,499

She just said, no more of this.

:

00:51:20,979 --> 00:51:23,559

Stop doing that and get

the kids back in class.

:

00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:28,059

And one more time, she sees six

and Gais making out in this vision.

:

00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,569

I think in a couple of these visions,

she's seen them out of the corner

:

00:51:31,569 --> 00:51:33,699

of her eye, like not just the

first one and not just this one.

:

00:51:33,699 --> 00:51:35,169

I think there was a couple more times.

:

00:51:35,844 --> 00:51:36,024

Xhafer: yeah.

:

00:51:36,024 --> 00:51:39,894

They kind of do some slide cuts

and some camera shots to like, for

:

00:51:39,894 --> 00:51:43,464

some reason, they're just always

in the same courtyard as her.

:

00:51:44,529 --> 00:51:44,829

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:51:46,029 --> 00:51:46,749

And like.

:

00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:52,089

She keeps hearing, like after the first

scene when we see the other doctor tell

:

00:51:52,089 --> 00:51:55,509

her the tests are positive, every time

she hears the voice saying the tests

:

00:51:55,509 --> 00:51:57,369

are positive, it's Doc Cottle's voice.

:

00:51:57,399 --> 00:51:59,829

It's not the other guy.

:

00:51:59,829 --> 00:52:06,249

So that's like a, a neat, you know,

merging of like the two existences

:

00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:08,529

making this really hallucinatory.

:

00:52:08,754 --> 00:52:11,724

Xhafer: Do you think it was that or that

they didn't get the other actor back slash

:

00:52:11,724 --> 00:52:13,344

didn't want to pay him for more lines.

:

00:52:13,524 --> 00:52:13,764

And you

:

00:52:13,899 --> 00:52:16,569

Laura: I mean, it's probably a

little column may a little column B.

:

00:52:18,774 --> 00:52:19,224

Xhafer: He's right.

:

00:52:19,224 --> 00:52:20,124

Coddles right there.

:

00:52:20,184 --> 00:52:20,724

You know, just

:

00:52:20,979 --> 00:52:21,339

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:52:21,984 --> 00:52:22,734

Xhafer: hold the Walkman

:

00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:26,769

Laura: we already have to pay this guy for

being on the credits all the time anyway.

:

00:52:26,769 --> 00:52:27,129

Right.

:

00:52:27,129 --> 00:52:31,809

So, uh, but this is when she hears

Coddle saying that the tests are

:

00:52:31,809 --> 00:52:36,642

positive, she starts seizing,

and we've got her next to Sharon.

:

00:52:37,462 --> 00:52:41,722

Sharon's watching her, and then

Rosalyn flatlines and comes back.

:

00:52:42,555 --> 00:52:42,735

Xhafer: yep.

:

00:52:42,735 --> 00:52:43,845

She has a little

:

00:52:43,845 --> 00:52:44,325

dies.

:

00:52:44,325 --> 00:52:44,865

Just a little.

:

00:52:44,865 --> 00:52:45,915

Death has a treat.

:

00:52:47,055 --> 00:52:48,345

No, not, not a full on.

:

00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,685

Laura: little, little creepy too.

:

00:52:50,685 --> 00:52:54,015

She's like bugeye and at Mr.

:

00:52:54,015 --> 00:52:55,695

Bugeyes himself, Gais

:

00:52:56,370 --> 00:52:56,610

Xhafer: But

:

00:52:56,610 --> 00:52:56,880

we,

:

00:52:57,075 --> 00:52:57,435

Laura: him.

:

00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,290

Xhafer: yep.

:

00:52:58,350 --> 00:53:01,050

We cut to two days later

and coddle is astonished.

:

00:53:01,050 --> 00:53:02,850

The cancer is just completely gone.

:

00:53:03,619 --> 00:53:04,099

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:53:04,939 --> 00:53:11,359

Adama makes a visit to her and she's,

you know, she's looking a little better.

:

00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:13,099

She's ready to go visit Yahi.

:

00:53:13,579 --> 00:53:17,524

And he's surprised, no one

expected to see Rosalyn again.

:

00:53:17,846 --> 00:53:21,643

they get her in this wheelchair,

yahi tells her that they just want

:

00:53:21,643 --> 00:53:27,043

to be heard and she tells him, we

already have already seen that.

:

00:53:27,043 --> 00:53:32,503

She's a fabulous negotiator with stands

that negotiations are gonna require trust.

:

00:53:33,763 --> 00:53:37,423

I need you to provide me assurance

that there will be no further attacks.

:

00:53:37,683 --> 00:53:38,103

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:41,319

Laura: and don't lie to me

because I will send a DOMA to

:

00:53:41,319 --> 00:53:43,299

kill all of you if you lie to me.

:

00:53:43,434 --> 00:53:43,764

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:53:43,944 --> 00:53:47,124

Just fucking unleash adamma on y'all.

:

00:53:47,859 --> 00:53:48,219

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:53:49,059 --> 00:53:49,419

Yeah.

:

00:53:49,449 --> 00:53:51,099

I, I am willing to listen.

:

00:53:51,339 --> 00:53:53,079

I am maybe even willing to act.

:

00:53:53,629 --> 00:53:56,719

But if you cross me, none of

those things will be happening

:

00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,889

anymore and you'll be dead.

:

00:53:57,919 --> 00:53:58,339

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

:

00:54:00,474 --> 00:54:03,984

Gaia celebrates his, uh,

victory here with six pt.

:

00:54:04,704 --> 00:54:10,374

Uh, he reads the letter as she complains

about, uh, him not ascending to the

:

00:54:10,374 --> 00:54:14,994

presidency and not saying anything

about how the baby's still alive,

:

00:54:15,508 --> 00:54:15,798

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:54:16,153 --> 00:54:21,043

Well, Gaia Gaia says something to her

when she shows up about like, Hey,

:

00:54:21,043 --> 00:54:22,513

I've saved Sharon's baby for now.

:

00:54:22,573 --> 00:54:25,928

Like, they're very interested in keeping.

:

00:54:26,848 --> 00:54:27,988

Studying this some more.

:

00:54:28,624 --> 00:54:33,634

and he doesn't read the letter as much as

she reads the letter to him, which I think

:

00:54:34,414 --> 00:54:38,344

is part of why he takes it so poorly.

:

00:54:38,584 --> 00:54:42,904

Like this is a very reasonable letter.

:

00:54:43,264 --> 00:54:44,074

Xhafer: a hundred percent.

:

00:54:44,584 --> 00:54:45,664

Don't be a dick.

:

00:54:45,724 --> 00:54:47,464

Sometimes you're kind of a dick.

:

00:54:47,674 --> 00:54:48,604

Don't be a dick.

:

00:54:48,664 --> 00:54:50,644

And he reads this letter and is gone.

:

00:54:50,974 --> 00:54:55,954

I've been not a dick so many times

now I'm really gonna be a dick.

:

00:54:56,601 --> 00:54:56,991

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:54:57,051 --> 00:55:04,731

Like she had perfectly valid criticism

of, hey, like it's not all about you.

:

00:55:04,821 --> 00:55:09,651

When you're leading almost 50,000

people who are under constant threat

:

00:55:09,651 --> 00:55:15,131

of attack and annihilation, you do

need to grow up a little and like

:

00:55:16,481 --> 00:55:19,871

step into your maturity, like please.

:

00:55:20,951 --> 00:55:21,701

Pretty please.

:

00:55:22,691 --> 00:55:29,051

And he reads that letter and goes,

you can't tell me what to do, mom,

:

00:55:32,801 --> 00:55:35,651

and fuck this guy.

:

00:55:35,741 --> 00:55:36,671

Fuck this guy.

:

00:55:36,941 --> 00:55:40,121

Like I can't stand that.

:

00:55:40,181 --> 00:55:43,721

Like what a fragile, broken little man

:

00:55:44,036 --> 00:55:47,186

Xhafer: He, he is a teenager right now.

:

00:55:47,666 --> 00:55:48,116

Right?

:

00:55:48,236 --> 00:55:50,246

Just like, oh, you told

me not to do this thing.

:

00:55:50,246 --> 00:55:50,846

Fuck you.

:

00:55:50,846 --> 00:55:52,316

I'm gonna do the thing.

:

00:55:53,096 --> 00:55:57,056

And I think of this sketch I saw

recently, the standup comic who's all

:

00:55:57,056 --> 00:55:59,036

like, so you know you got a time machine.

:

00:55:59,846 --> 00:56:02,456

Do you think you could go

back and kill baby Hitler?

:

00:56:02,486 --> 00:56:03,476

'cause like I'm a parent.

:

00:56:03,476 --> 00:56:05,576

I don't think I could kill baby Hitler.

:

00:56:06,206 --> 00:56:08,606

I could strangle the shit

outta teenage Hitler though.

:

00:56:13,001 --> 00:56:13,781

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:56:14,051 --> 00:56:14,291

Yeah.

:

00:56:14,291 --> 00:56:15,986

That's a great point, isn't it?

:

00:56:16,991 --> 00:56:19,571

Like, ugh, Gais.

:

00:56:19,631 --> 00:56:23,381

Um, he's, he's so mad that

she called me selfish.

:

00:56:23,381 --> 00:56:26,681

And it's like, she said

it very reasonably,

:

00:56:26,951 --> 00:56:28,481

like, you are,

:

00:56:28,481 --> 00:56:31,751

a little bit selfish

and you need to back up.

:

00:56:31,871 --> 00:56:33,911

Buster a Donna said the same thing.

:

00:56:34,031 --> 00:56:36,401

And he's like, well, she's

clearly never gonna trust me,

:

00:56:36,401 --> 00:56:37,991

so I just gotta go do my own

:

00:56:38,156 --> 00:56:41,186

Xhafer: this letter ends with,

you'll be a great leader if you

:

00:56:41,186 --> 00:56:45,056

can make sure that you consider the

needs of the people before yourself.

:

00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:47,160

Laura: That's, that's literally true for

:

00:56:47,415 --> 00:56:48,045

Xhafer: Right.

:

00:56:48,045 --> 00:56:50,085

It's, it's, it's so baseline.

:

00:56:50,190 --> 00:56:51,540

Laura: It's just universal.

:

00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:52,230

Good leadership.

:

00:56:52,425 --> 00:56:52,875

Xhafer: yeah.

:

00:56:54,218 --> 00:56:55,868

Laura: Fuck this man.

:

00:56:55,903 --> 00:57:02,498

And so we get just a couple

of notes to leave on here.

:

00:57:03,110 --> 00:57:05,690

Six PT tells him this

is now life or death.

:

00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:08,750

Okay, whatever, six PT says,

:

00:57:09,050 --> 00:57:09,650

Xhafer: whatever.

:

00:57:09,675 --> 00:57:10,815

six PT get fucked.

:

00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:15,380

Laura: Sharon's, like looking at

her growing belly, I guess the, the

:

00:57:15,380 --> 00:57:20,750

Cy cells have like a one way mirror

situation, so she's looking at it as

:

00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:25,100

the mirror and Rosalyn is watching

her from the other side of the

:

00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,860

mirror, just kind of bugging eyes,

:

00:57:27,860 --> 00:57:28,280

bugging

:

00:57:29,255 --> 00:57:36,890

Gaia goes to watch Yahi leave and we find

out because he sort of takes off like

:

00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:38,660

he needs to speak to Yahi or something.

:

00:57:38,660 --> 00:57:42,710

We don't know exactly what's

happening, but we get back to cloud

:

00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:45,620

nine and Yahi goes straight to Gina.

:

00:57:45,830 --> 00:57:50,295

So it seems real, it really seems

like they're trying to make it as, you

:

00:57:50,295 --> 00:57:53,775

know, one of these like underground

organizations, like, oh, there's

:

00:57:53,775 --> 00:57:56,458

no leader, it's an idea, whatever.

:

00:57:56,458 --> 00:57:58,168

But really like Gina's the leader,

:

00:57:58,228 --> 00:57:58,498

like

:

00:57:58,603 --> 00:57:58,843

Xhafer: percent.

:

00:57:59,638 --> 00:58:01,798

Laura: she's the leader,

which makes me like.

:

00:58:02,098 --> 00:58:05,878

Wonder if this is really

fomented in the last three weeks.

:

00:58:05,878 --> 00:58:08,368

Like maybe there were a couple

people who were like, man, I hate

:

00:58:08,668 --> 00:58:10,528

running for my life and whatever.

:

00:58:10,528 --> 00:58:15,298

And then she just got, you know,

Gaia tucked her away and she went to

:

00:58:15,613 --> 00:58:17,743

Xhafer: she's just cream

of worm tongue, you know?

:

00:58:17,998 --> 00:58:18,358

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:58:18,748 --> 00:58:19,198

Yeah.

:

00:58:19,858 --> 00:58:26,098

And uh, he tells her like, Hey, I

think Rosalyn really wants to listen

:

00:58:26,738 --> 00:58:28,328

but we can't do any more attacks.

:

00:58:29,078 --> 00:58:31,628

And she's not cool with that.

:

00:58:31,628 --> 00:58:34,658

She's like, no, Rosalyn's

never gonna accept peace.

:

00:58:34,658 --> 00:58:36,218

Like, it's not gonna happen.

:

00:58:36,878 --> 00:58:39,458

And yeah, he's like, well, you

know, maybe not, but I have

:

00:58:39,458 --> 00:58:40,658

this in with the vice president.

:

00:58:40,658 --> 00:58:48,588

He gave me a, a piece of luggage

to carry home, like, uh, which they

:

00:58:48,588 --> 00:58:52,608

tell you not to accept watching

anybody's luggage in an airport.

:

00:58:52,608 --> 00:58:52,968

Right.

:

00:58:53,628 --> 00:58:56,778

You should probably never carry

a piece of luggage for someone.

:

00:58:56,808 --> 00:58:57,258

Right.

:

00:58:58,143 --> 00:59:01,053

Xhafer: It's a bad idea and he

learns why very quickly when

:

00:59:01,053 --> 00:59:03,333

he opens it up in it's Anu.

:

00:59:06,333 --> 00:59:07,803

Laura: God, I hate this dumbass.

:

00:59:07,803 --> 00:59:08,103

Fuck.

:

00:59:08,103 --> 00:59:08,463

Gaas.

:

00:59:08,463 --> 00:59:09,033

Balter.

:

00:59:09,243 --> 00:59:09,843

Fuck.

:

00:59:10,863 --> 00:59:12,993

Xhafer: So that's the episode

:

00:59:14,163 --> 00:59:14,523

Laura: yeah.

:

00:59:14,583 --> 00:59:17,763

Xhafer: on a scale of one to 12

colonies, where do you put this one?

:

00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:19,610

Laura: I put this one at Fuck.

:

00:59:19,610 --> 00:59:19,940

Gaas.

:

00:59:19,940 --> 00:59:20,360

Baltar.

:

00:59:21,110 --> 00:59:23,630

Like, I, I think I

immediately texted you to be

:

00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:24,500

like, I hate this guy.

:

00:59:24,740 --> 00:59:27,770

Xhafer: Not only did you text

me about it, you also texted the

:

00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:31,280

cool girls chat because, because

Beth was all like, oh yeah, she's

:

00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,540

really met at Baltar right now.

:

00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:37,940

Laura: Well, when you didn't answer,

I thought, uh, he's a reasonable

:

00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:40,940

person who's already in bed, but you

know, who might not be already in bed.

:

00:59:41,060 --> 00:59:41,900

Beth,

:

00:59:41,965 --> 00:59:42,920

Xhafer: It's very true.

:

00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:44,660

It's

:

00:59:44,810 --> 00:59:45,320

Laura: I, I,

:

00:59:45,515 --> 00:59:45,735

Xhafer: it.

:

00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:46,970

Laura: the ways.

:

00:59:47,060 --> 00:59:49,790

Xhafer: When that happens more

than us, more than likely what

:

00:59:49,790 --> 00:59:51,890

it is, is we are both in bed.

:

00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,120

It's just I am sleeping.

:

00:59:59,930 --> 01:00:00,470

yeah,

:

01:00:00,875 --> 01:00:02,765

Laura: yeah, how do I rate this episode?

:

01:00:02,945 --> 01:00:06,695

Well, I had been wondering for a while

how this Rosalyn stuff was gonna resolve.

:

01:00:06,905 --> 01:00:09,185

And you know, on the last

couple episodes I've been like,

:

01:00:09,305 --> 01:00:11,045

ah, dammit, Rosalyn's asylum.

:

01:00:11,255 --> 01:00:15,931

And now I'm sitting here wondering,

hmm, what if Rosalyn wasn't silent,

:

01:00:16,486 --> 01:00:16,996

Xhafer: I mean,

:

01:00:17,071 --> 01:00:18,181

Laura: but she is now.

:

01:00:18,436 --> 01:00:18,976

Xhafer: Ooh.

:

01:00:19,741 --> 01:00:20,221

Laura: Like,

:

01:00:20,236 --> 01:00:21,016

Xhafer: Ooh.

:

01:00:21,271 --> 01:00:22,921

Laura: what if there's more than just

:

01:00:22,936 --> 01:00:23,746

Xhafer: blood.

:

01:00:24,031 --> 01:00:24,601

Laura: in that blur?

:

01:00:25,246 --> 01:00:26,326

Xhafer: Ooh,

:

01:00:27,446 --> 01:00:27,736

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:00:28,646 --> 01:00:30,691

What if, what if there's something else?

:

01:00:30,691 --> 01:00:33,751

Or what if, you know, the other thing

I brought up to Erin today, I was like,

:

01:00:33,751 --> 01:00:38,851

well, you know, if she was a cylon, the

like not having resistance to disease

:

01:00:38,851 --> 01:00:41,911

and cancer doesn't make a ton of sense.

:

01:00:41,941 --> 01:00:43,201

Like, how'd she get this cancer?

:

01:00:43,261 --> 01:00:43,741

But.

:

01:00:44,491 --> 01:00:49,051

It's like, well, maybe she's

like the first model silo, um,

:

01:00:49,591 --> 01:00:51,451

other, you know, human silo.

:

01:00:51,451 --> 01:00:55,771

And so she has some like little

bumpy bumpies and little kinks.

:

01:00:55,771 --> 01:00:59,041

We gotta work out, you know, the

bugs, they all got bugs, right?

:

01:00:59,671 --> 01:00:59,911

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

01:00:59,911 --> 01:01:01,441

The, the, the beta models.

:

01:01:01,651 --> 01:01:02,011

Yeah.

:

01:01:02,191 --> 01:01:08,251

Laura: the machines got bugs and giving

her the blurred like fix the bugs.

:

01:01:09,241 --> 01:01:09,961

I don't know.

:

01:01:09,976 --> 01:01:10,266

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

01:01:11,251 --> 01:01:11,731

Laura: I don't know.

:

01:01:12,481 --> 01:01:16,141

But it was like, huh, what if, what

if there were really 13 cys and like,

:

01:01:16,141 --> 01:01:20,701

there were 12 models, but then we also

like had this thing with the blurred.

:

01:01:20,821 --> 01:01:21,541

Xhafer: The bird.

:

01:01:21,961 --> 01:01:23,101

Laura: That'd be interesting.

:

01:01:23,461 --> 01:01:28,301

So, I don't know that didn't rate,

I didn't rate the episode anywhere

:

01:01:28,301 --> 01:01:30,071

in that little like, stream of

:

01:01:30,071 --> 01:01:35,728

conscious, uh, I'll give it,

like, I'll give it like a nine.

:

01:01:35,983 --> 01:01:40,483

Xhafer: Yeah, this one for me doesn't

hit as hard, mostly because of some

:

01:01:40,483 --> 01:01:43,243

of the character inconsistencies

that I thought were kind of weird.

:

01:01:44,213 --> 01:01:44,423

I'm gonna

:

01:01:44,423 --> 01:01:45,113

give it a seven.

:

01:01:46,343 --> 01:01:46,613

Yeah.

:

01:01:47,723 --> 01:01:49,583

Laura: Yeah, I'm, I'm

super curious though.

:

01:01:49,583 --> 01:01:50,783

I can't wait to watch more.

:

01:01:50,958 --> 01:01:58,403

Xhafer: So I, uh, I had to really

communicate the, uh, the next one because

:

01:01:59,393 --> 01:02:02,993

the, there's like a spoiler in

like the first, like five words

:

01:02:03,953 --> 01:02:04,643

Laura: Okay.

:

01:02:04,733 --> 01:02:05,153

Xhafer: I found.

:

01:02:05,543 --> 01:02:05,783

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:02:05,783 --> 01:02:08,723

So I, I had asked Aaron, I've, I've

been asking, I'm like, okay, go

:

01:02:08,723 --> 01:02:14,003

ahead and read the, I'll put cover

my Eyes and you read the thing, the

:

01:02:14,003 --> 01:02:16,583

description for the next episode

and tell me if I can see it or not.

:

01:02:16,583 --> 01:02:18,083

And he was like, oh, absolutely not.

:

01:02:18,203 --> 01:02:19,403

Xhafer: yeah, yeah.

:

01:02:19,403 --> 01:02:21,143

This one, this one's heavily edited.

:

01:02:21,926 --> 01:02:25,466

We've got season two,

episode 14, black Market.

:

01:02:25,466 --> 01:02:26,006

Next,

:

01:02:26,340 --> 01:02:30,870

Pegasus, new Commander Fisk is

involved with black markets leading

:

01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:32,880

to Lee to have to solve a crime.

:

01:02:33,255 --> 01:02:36,465

Rosalyn seeks to introduce

trade regulations.

:

01:02:36,961 --> 01:02:37,321

Laura: Yeah.

:

01:02:37,981 --> 01:02:41,401

Xhafer: I've taken I've taken

like 20 words out of this.

:

01:02:42,661 --> 01:02:42,991

Laura: Huh?

:

01:02:43,651 --> 01:02:48,061

We don't have enough,

like rules of commerce.

:

01:02:48,121 --> 01:02:52,741

And so now we have like black

market situation and, and are we

:

01:02:52,741 --> 01:02:54,601

gonna get a drug episode finally?

:

01:02:55,321 --> 01:02:55,771

Xhafer: So

:

01:02:56,161 --> 01:02:57,601

Laura: Or maybe they're

setting up for that.

:

01:02:57,871 --> 01:02:58,441

Xhafer: we'll see.

:

01:02:59,070 --> 01:02:59,550

Laura: Interesting.

:

01:02:59,850 --> 01:03:01,710

Xhafer: but we won't see until next week.

:

01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:05,610

But before we get there, we gotta

say a couple of things, like,

:

01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,175

uh, a thank you, I wanna say.

:

01:03:07,205 --> 01:03:07,495

Okay.

:

01:03:07,590 --> 01:03:08,580

I got a couple thank yous.

:

01:03:08,580 --> 01:03:09,570

You got a couple thank yous.

:

01:03:09,570 --> 01:03:10,080

We usually got

:

01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:10,860

a couple thank yous.

:

01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:11,610

Yeah.

:

01:03:11,625 --> 01:03:15,465

Uh, I got a thank you for Jeremy

Siegel here in my, uh, back

:

01:03:15,465 --> 01:03:19,125

pocket, uh, where I always keep

my thank yous to Jeremy Siegel.

:

01:03:19,382 --> 01:03:21,062

Laura: Uhhuh, let's pull 'em out.

:

01:03:21,077 --> 01:03:22,967

Xhafer: Yeah, Yeah, I

got a couple in here.

:

01:03:23,397 --> 01:03:28,287

So yeah, thanks Jeremy for, uh, the

theme song and everything you do

:

01:03:28,287 --> 01:03:30,417

for the podcast and the pod fan.

:

01:03:30,417 --> 01:03:31,587

We really appreciate you.

:

01:03:31,827 --> 01:03:35,307

You can find more of Jeremy's work

at Jeremy Siegel 40 two.bandcamp.com.

:

01:03:35,711 --> 01:03:38,471

Laura: Hey, and thanks to Angry

Duck time machine on Instagram

:

01:03:38,471 --> 01:03:40,061

for our adorable little podcast

:

01:03:40,331 --> 01:03:43,241

Xhafer: Hey Aaron, thanks so much for

editing this podcast and making sure

:

01:03:43,241 --> 01:03:47,751

that it gets out on time despite our

best efforts to delay it by recording.

:

01:03:47,751 --> 01:03:51,591

Super late sometimes,

but like right now, you.

:

01:03:51,591 --> 01:03:53,961

Laura: Hey, and you know what else?

:

01:03:54,561 --> 01:03:58,581

I have a very special thank you this week

thanks to the listeners in the Discord

:

01:03:58,581 --> 01:04:02,181

who did some, uh, merch testing for us

:

01:04:02,181 --> 01:04:05,481

and like helping us get

the store up and running.

:

01:04:05,481 --> 01:04:06,621

That was really helpful.

:

01:04:06,681 --> 01:04:07,461

I appreciate it.

:

01:04:07,566 --> 01:04:11,316

Xhafer: Yeah, everybody jumped in there

and bought the first wave of stuff.

:

01:04:11,316 --> 01:04:12,276

We really appreciate it.

:

01:04:12,276 --> 01:04:13,116

Thank you so much.

:

01:04:13,596 --> 01:04:16,836

Making sure that we've got like

quality stuff and letting us

:

01:04:16,836 --> 01:04:18,636

know how the experience was.

:

01:04:19,351 --> 01:04:22,321

Laura: So if you wanna like come

have cool hangs with people who like

:

01:04:22,321 --> 01:04:24,781

to be helpful, come to our discord.

:

01:04:24,976 --> 01:04:25,291

Xhafer: It's a

:

01:04:25,291 --> 01:04:25,651

great place.

:

01:04:26,176 --> 01:04:26,506

Yeah.

:

01:04:27,106 --> 01:04:28,876

Can't say enough nice

things about the Discord.

:

01:04:29,243 --> 01:04:29,693

Laura: for sure.

:

01:04:30,346 --> 01:04:35,087

All right, well we'll see you next week

with another episode of Battlestar.

:

01:04:35,252 --> 01:04:36,721

Xhafer: Sure will have a good one.

:

01:04:36,721 --> 01:04:37,172

Internet.

:

01:04:37,374 --> 01:04:37,944

Laura: Bye.

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.