Episode 190

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Published on:

8th Oct 2025

BSG S3E1 - Leoben's Dreamhouse (Featuring Ben from Last Time On)

Laura and Xhafer welcome Ben back to the show for the season opener. Ben is not coming over to Leoben's for dinner. Laura admires Gaeta's luscious locks. Xhafer feels weird about metal chopsticks. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 3, Episode 1: Occupation.

Find more of Ben on the Last Time On or Into the Greenwood podcasts.

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Transcript
Xhafer:

Hey guys, just wanna give a quick content warning on top of this episode.

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We have a suicide, a bombing.

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In fact, we have a suicide bombing.

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So if that's gonna be something

that's too much that's cool.

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We'll see you next week.

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I think next week might, may

have more suicide bombings.

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Laura, you've already

watched the next episode.

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Does next week have more suicide bombing?

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Should we tell 'em to skip?

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Two?

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Laura: yeah.

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Yeah, it does.

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Xhafer: Okay, cool.

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We'll skip, skip this one.

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Skip the next one.

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Ben: Also I stuff and holding

women against their will.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Yes.

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Ben: bad.

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Laura: just a, there's

just a lot of bad guys.

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I'm sorry.

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Xhafer: Um, I mean, that's.

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Battle star.

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Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast hosted by two former strangers.

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Now friends who are currently watching

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I'm Jair,

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Laura: And I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: and today with us we have,

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Ben: Ben.

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Xhafer: it's a season premier.

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You know what that means?

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Ben's

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Laura: time.

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Ben: Yeah.

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And in the spirit of former strangers,

now friends, before this episode,

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Laura, I went back and listened to

Babylon five, season two, episode 17.

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The first episode, so the Shadows of

Zaha Dom, the first episode of this

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podcast that I was on because Jair had

COVID and we needed somebody to step in

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Laura: That's right.

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Ben: I believe, our second conversation

ever after the gag I did at the beginning

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of season two, where I pretended to be the

Sheridan replacing Jeff Ferris Sinclair.

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And it was very fun going back

and listening to that like, oh

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yeah, back at a time when we were

like, Hey, we like sci-fi shows.

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Do I know anything else about you?

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Nah,

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Laura: I remember that

episode very being very good.

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So I hope it, it held up

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Xhafer: I've never listened to it, so

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Laura: You're not even on it.

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Jafer.

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You could do that one.

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Xhafer: I'm sure I have.

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I'm sure I wouldn't have listened to it.

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Actually, I just don't remember

anything about it because it was.

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God, four years ago now,

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Laura: No,

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Xhafer: Uhhuh,

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Laura: no,

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Xhafer: I think, I think we have our,

is our five year anniversary this year?

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Laura: no.

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Xhafer: No.

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Ben: I know during that episode you were

talking about rapidly approaching episode

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Xhafer: Uh, This of our

overall podcast is episode 190.

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Ben: so rapidly approaching 200.

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Laura: Wow.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Not five years yet, though.

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I think it had to be 2021.

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Right.

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And we

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Ben: It was 9 7 22.

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Xhafer: Our four year anniversary

is in two weeks of this airing,

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Laura: There's gotta be a couple

of listeners out there who have

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been with us all four years,

so happy four years, everybody.

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Xhafer: yeah, I'm sure

we'll wax poetic on it

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Laura: it better.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: and then the eye of Jupiter, which

is the episode right before our movie

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break this season is our 200th episode.

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Laura: Wow.

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Xhafer: I mean, I, I

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Ben: that's a good one.

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Xhafer: four years, 200

episodes, we take breaks.

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That works out.

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Ben: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Um, so yeah.

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Crazy.

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Laura: Well, new season of Battlestar

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: three episode one, and

what a like journey it is.

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In one first episode.

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Xhafer: Yeah, so you had

said that this was packaged

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together with its next episode

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Laura: Yes.

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For, for me.

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Watching on Apple tv.

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If you went to watch season three

episode one, you probably watched

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Occupation and Precipice together.

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So that's what I did.

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Xhafer: That makes a lot of

sense to me because this episode

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is not cut like in episode.

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This episode is cut like a

two-parter and it's part one.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Like the

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Laura: flowed together really well.

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Xhafer: yeah, the first 15 minutes

of this is a montage of like this

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cut that we, we flip through between

a bunch of different things and we

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don't really know what's going on

for the first five minutes of it even

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: it is obtuse,

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Laura: Yeah.

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The LA the last time

on was pretty long too.

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Like we, we have to go through Leo Obin

and Lee getting his promotion and bunch of

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new Caprica stuff, and we have to remember

that Adama's got the mustache still.

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Xhafer: I want to say there was more than

a year gap between seasons two and three

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Laura: Oh yeah,

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Ben: was a problem with

Battlestar Galactica,

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Xhafer: for sure.

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I'm actually, I'm gonna

check now 'cause I'm curious.

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I should have done research

before, but fuck it.

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We're here now.

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Laura: do it live.

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Xhafer: We will do it live.

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Ben: if we're just gonna be in how I

remember it feeling, I remember there

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being a huge gap between two and three,

a huge gap between three and four.

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And then they took a year in

the middle of season four.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: so season two had a like

three month gap in the middle of it.

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So season two started July 15th,

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Came back January 2006, and then

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Season three started October 6th, 2006.

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So only, you know, not even six months.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: and uh, ended March 25th, 2007.

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The Razor movie was November, 2007, and

en season four started April,:

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And then that break you were referring

to was June,:

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Midseason break was, and it didn't

come back until January,:

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Laura: Oh, that's painful.

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I,

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Xhafer: So it's like 10 episodes,

wait six months, 10 episodes.

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Yeah, I remember those gaps a lot.

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That March, 2007 to April, 2008 was

a rough one because you figure that's

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like a year, a full year in between

seasons and a season lasts half a year.

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So there's production going on

during that normally whole thing.

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I know that the gap in between

season four was exacerbated by a

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writer's strike, um, part of which

is battle star's fucking fault.

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So I, I don't feel

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Laura: We talked about that

with the web episodes, so

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Xhafer: Uh, I don't think that episodes

aired yet, Ben, but if you were,

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Ben: It is not.

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Xhafer: if you were unawares the, there's

the episodes that they did for Battlestar.

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One of the reasons that the writer

strike in:

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these web episodes were being classified

by studios as promotional materials,

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which means nobody got residuals.

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That was a big problem

for a lot of people,

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Laura: Ben's making disappointed dad

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Ben: you sci-fi.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: so I'm sure that was

everyone at the time and it wasn't

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sci-fi channel doing a thing

that prompted the writer strike.

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I'm sure they were following from my

understanding of this show's relationship

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with its studio from the So say we all

book I read it was pretty positive.

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So I don't think it was a targeted

thing on this show that would be

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not the vibe I received from the

behind the scenes book I read.

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Laura: I'm sure there was a lot

going on in the universe at the

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time, and this is one of the factors

that pushed that strike to happen.

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yeah.

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Ben: it gave us our weird

long break it murdered heroes.

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You know, writer strike.

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You take the good with the bad.

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Xhafer: Yeah, it was good

that it murdered Heroes.

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Heroes needed to die at that point.

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It was so bad

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So let's get into season

three, episode one here.

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Occupation, we open on a tight

shot montage that makes about as

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much scent as the plan of lost.

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But we slowly see a few things

zoomed out enough to make sense.

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We see the sa lops in a holding cell,

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Ben: He's our cooler king

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Xhafer: and I just wanna note that

I've had that pun written since

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before we started recording this

show, so I've been waiting for

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Ben: and Laura, I will say as somebody who

has been interacting in both the spoiler

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town and not spoiler town, parts of the

discord, making sure all right, does that

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Saul React, gif, have an eye patch or not,

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Laura: Oh my.

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Ben: react of dealing

with the not spoiler town.

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Laura: Hilarious.

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Hilarious.

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No, um.

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I just realized, I was like, oh, if

Saul makes it off of new Caprica,

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which at this point, I don't know,

it's pretty contentious down there.

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Uh, He's gonna get a sweet pirate patch.

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'cause like for this, for

these two episodes, it's just,

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you know, like medical gauze.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Cool.

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Sweet Pirate patch, maybe.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Ben: And we have Adama

breaks his little ships.

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Xhafer: playing Warhammer

and having a bad time.

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Ben: Uh, We have Tyrell and

Anders setting up the uh, BSC four

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instead of BS BSG.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Ben: Eh,

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Laura: was like, did, did

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Xhafer: I thought there was something

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Laura: or are we just

not laughing at a joke?

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Ben: I was just, they're

they're setting up a bomb.

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Xhafer: Ben is so used to me

getting a joke and just staring

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at him instead of laughing.

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That I think that was just

second nature for both of us.

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Laura: I was gonna say that they're

setting us up the bomb, but, okay.

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Ben: They are.

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All their base are belong to the silence.

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Laura: It's very true.

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Yeah.

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Rosalyn's praying a bit.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Ellen Ty is fucking,

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Ben: Yeah.

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Laura: know if we're gonna call it that.

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I don't, I don't know

how consensual this is,

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Xhafer: um, what that is

actually a plot point, so we'll

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just leave it alone for now.

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Laura: right.

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I,

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Xhafer: and then we cut over to what

is totally not a redress of boomers

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post genocide Caprica apartment,

which is totally not a redress of

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Starbucks Caprica apartment where

Star BE'S is setting a dinner table.

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I.

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Laura: mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Another layer is peeled back and

we see Cavel sitting with Saul telling him

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that they are in fact fracking with him.

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Laura: Yeah,

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Cavel is such an asshole here.

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Xhafer: is, he is

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Ben: He's always an asshole all the time.

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Xhafer: hundred

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Laura: yeah,

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Xhafer: He has one mode.

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Well, he has two modes,

asshole and super asshole.

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Laura: yeah, he comes into this very

brightly lit torture cell where you

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know, you can't sleep 'cause the lights

are so bright and kinda looks around

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for a second, puts on his sunglasses

like just a real smarmy bitch.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Ben: Now I want like a vapor wave shirt

that's cavel, and then just in like, pink

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and purple, it just says smarmy bitch.

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Xhafer: We need that on

the merch story yesterday.

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Laura: It's gotta have

his sunglasses on though.

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Like some pixelated sunglasses.

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Xhafer: Mm.

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Ben: Oh yeah.

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Xhafer: hun.

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Ben: Now do you think they actually.

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Change the, the hash marks on the

wall, or we don't have to do that.

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All we have to do is tell him we're doing

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Laura: Right.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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It's way funner to not change them and

tell him that they're changing them.

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Ben: That was my thought.

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Xhafer: It is

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also a lot less work, which

is a hundred percent cave's.

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Way

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Laura: right, how do you, even in a, if

your cell is just like brightly lit all of

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the time, even make hash marks, like you

have no way to know the passing of time.

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Xhafer: count the seconds.

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Ben: Or every time you

wake up, you make one.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I'd just be asleep as much as I could.

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Xhafer: Yeah, wait it out.

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Ben: I dunno.

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I, I know psychologically the

toll that keeping somebody

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in solitary confinement does.

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I'm also so much of an introvert where

I'm like, a few weeks of That sounds real

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Laura: Uh, Nobody talking to me.

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You're needing anything from me.

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Xhafer: weeks.

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Ben: yeah.

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Xhafer: Maybe.

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Maybe a day or two.

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Ben: I, I once had a couple of

days off work over the summer when

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I was in college and my roommates

had gone home for the summer.

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I didn't have any work and I realized,

oh man, I haven't spoken to a human being

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in five days and I have not missed it.

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Laura: I don't know.

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I could go for some of that right now.

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That'd be all right.

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Xhafer: Uh, So back to

our montage dinner date.

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Star be's is having the worst

time at Bin's Dream House

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Laura: Uh,

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Xhafer: I wanna make absolutely clear

what I'm trying to do with that joke here.

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I am not saying that Starbuck is Barbie,

I am saying that Bin is playing with her

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like she's a doll and not a human being.

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Laura: yes.

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Xhafer: Just to absolutely

clarify anything there.

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It is disgusting.

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Ben: He also cuts her

steak with a pocket knife.

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I'm just like, Ew, gross.

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Xhafer: Yeah, that's When

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Laura: That seems like it

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Xhafer: washed that knife?

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Laura: right, right.

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No.

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I was thinking this morning as I

was getting ready about how, you

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know, the show has tried to give us

some ambiguity about the cys, right?

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Like.

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You know, the Sharons definitely

seem to take the human side a bit.

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Um, there's at least conflict

with one Six right about stuff.

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She's doing weird stuff out here.

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Maybe helping humans,

maybe not, we're not sure.

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so far don't see a lot of ambiguity

from any of the male characters.

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Like, don't like Leo

Bans, a hundred percent.

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Don't see anything

redeeming in any Leo bans.

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I suppose there might be some room for

there to be a Doral or a Cavel or Simon

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who has redeeming qualities, but I don't

think they can convince me any Leo Obin

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has any redeeming qualities at this point.

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Xhafer: this is with a hazy memory.

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So I'll be more general.

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Also, it's super spoily town, but I do

think that at the end, the S character

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I consider to be the goodest is male,

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Laura: Hmm.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: but

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Ben: I will say we don't get

as much individualization.

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In our male silos as we do in our

female silos, which is an interesting

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thing I hadn't really thought about.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Is that a critique of society at all?

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Ben: I don't know, but like I don't,

um, and I might be misremembering,

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but I don't think we get a boomer

Athena, you know, distinction among

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like our Simons or our Lee opens.

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Like Lee opens are all

pretty much the same.

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Which is an interesting thing.

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Laura: Ooh.

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Well this is me coming down.

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I'm saying it.

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I don't like bin.

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He's super gross.

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Xhafer: No, that's,

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Ben: is,

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Xhafer: a hundred percent

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Laura: Ready to ready

to make that bold claim.

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Hot takes

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Ben: care if he has the

only steak on the planet.

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I'm not coming over for dinner.

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Uh.

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Xhafer: The fucking worst.

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Laura: Nope.

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Xhafer: the montage continues.

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We see that Ellen is fucking careful

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: and that the resistance

is setting up their bomb right by

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where a heavy Raider is landing.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: get the reveal that Ellen

did this to get Ty out of jail as

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he is released in the next scene.

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Laura: Yeah.

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She, she did this to get Ty out of jail.

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Right.

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I believe that that's how

she's motivated at this moment.

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Uh, I believe that Cavel was gonna

do whatever the fuck he wanted and

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he just was like, oh yeah, I can

also get this if I just hang on a

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little longer and make her do this.

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Ben: well, 'cause he says, oh, that's

already happening right now anyway.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Ben: and so I don't think there

was actually the quid pro quo,

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Laura: Right?

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Ben: but I do think they're

trying to give us a little bit of

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ambiguity with the last time on.

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Where during the season two finale,

she's like, I want to go down

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to this to live on new Caprica.

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And he is just like, yeah, so you can

bang your way through half the population.

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Laura: Yes.

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He says, cat around with all the men.

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And I was like, I, uh hmm.

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I am very Ellen sympathetic

this episode, like, um.

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Ben: I want to believe that she's

trying to do a, a nice thing.

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Laura: No, I believe it.

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I'm, I'm sold.

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I, I don't think she was intending

to just cat around with Cavel and

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if she wants to just cat around,

well, su kind of sucks sometimes.

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So let her have a moment like,

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Xhafer: I mean, he's clearly aware of

it if he's telling her to go do it.

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And I don't think this show in

society was at a point to have

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polyamory be around, especially given

Battlestar connection to Mormonism.

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That might be something that got taken

very differently as it was airing.

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Ben: Fair.

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Xhafer: But he seems to be okay with it.

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He's not particularly pleased,

but he didn't say, don't,

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Ben: To be fair, I don't think the,

I don't think the ties are poly.

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I think they're just toxic.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Ben: important distinction.

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Laura: I suppose you can

be both, you can be poly

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Ben: can, or one or the other,

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Xhafer: you might think you

are one and are the other.

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Laura: Ah, true, true.

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Ben: but Saul comes out looking

like a Gordon's fisherman.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: He is got so much beard but the way

Ellen like screams for him or yells for

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him and just kind of clings to him when

he comes out, that feels really genuine.

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That's, that's definitely like fear.

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She's felt, she's felt like

she didn't have a protector

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Ben: I.

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Laura: in this time.

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So

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Xhafer: Anders and Tyro are just the

absolute fucking worst at hiding.

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They are yelling at each other

15 feet away from Cylons.

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We see a six and a Sharon fucking

just stare right at them as

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they go to set off this bomb.

417

:

And they're sitting there like

slamming the button and yelling,

418

:

and it's just all like, has.

419

:

Why is no one doing anything here?

420

:

This seems

421

:

Ben: Well, it's 'cause they're

insurgents and not a bit nervous.

422

:

Laura: also they're very

close to this bomb where

423

:

Ben: yeah.

424

:

Laura: like what?

425

:

I, I guess maybe we had some

limitations on set to where we couldn't

426

:

make it look like we were farther

away, but it's like, fuck guys.

427

:

You're hiding behind like a box.

428

:

Xhafer: Well, it's like how many

different types of explosives do we

429

:

expect the resistance to have access to?

430

:

And among those, how, why is this

one so different than the one that's

431

:

used at the end of the episode?

432

:

Because the one at the end of the

episode is dramatically larger in its

433

:

scope of damage, but this one is big

enough to take out a Raider somehow.

434

:

Like there's a little bit of

mental gymnastics on making

435

:

Tyrell and Anders survive this.

436

:

But you know, it's fiction.

437

:

Whatever.

438

:

Laura: Yep.

439

:

They've got the plot armor for now.

440

:

Xhafer: yeah, I guess the one at the

end had a couple more bombs attached.

441

:

Probably.

442

:

I think we,

443

:

Laura: we, just stacked a

444

:

few of

445

:

Xhafer: Yeah, I think we see the, there's

like a little belt of them, so, but that's

446

:

also not how bombs work, so they don't

go farther because you have more of them.

447

:

That's, that's not physics.

448

:

So anyways,

449

:

Ben: Uh, we finish our dinner party.

450

:

Xhafer: oh,

451

:

Laura: yeah,

452

:

Xhafer: yeah.

453

:

Starbuck gets Lee open

with some chopsticks.

454

:

Fucking yikes.

455

:

Ben: I.

456

:

Xhafer: Like he deserves this.

457

:

I don't feel empathy for Lee Open.

458

:

I do feel weird about holding

metal chopsticks though.

459

:

Laura: The, the reason listener that she

gets him with metal chopsticks is he tries

460

:

to fucking caress her face after, like,

cursing the insurgents at dinner and,

461

:

Xhafer: Also, we see her setting

the table with forks and knives.

462

:

Where the fuck do these

chopsticks come from?

463

:

Laura: yeah.

464

:

Great

465

:

Xhafer: Why would you have chopsticks

and a fork if she had like a

466

:

spoon and chopsticks or something?

467

:

Sure.

468

:

Also, why are you eating

steak with chopsticks?

469

:

Laura: They, they definitely

were eating with the forks.

470

:

I noticed that.

471

:

So, I don't know, maybe she

had secreted the chopsticks

472

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

473

:

Laura: and I should have said

secreted and not secreted.

474

:

Xhafer: Do you

475

:

Laura: secreted chopsticks from somewhere.

476

:

Ben: that was, my, my guess was she.

477

:

This is the thing.

478

:

I have to stab him with secret,

you know, secret chopsticks that

479

:

said he's, he immediately is just

like, Hey, I'll see you soon.

480

:

And it made me be like, okay,

you guys have been dealing

481

:

with human silos long enough.

482

:

You don't kill them.

483

:

You incapacitate them.

484

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

485

:

Ben: Like

486

:

Laura: I think she's been

killing Leo bins for weeks now.

487

:

That's my guess.

488

:

Or months.

489

:

She's been killing a Leo Obin

like once a week at least.

490

:

Xhafer: Oh yeah.

491

:

On

492

:

Ben: But is the sort of thing where

it's like, no, like incapacitate him

493

:

so that he, one is not downloading, but

two can't move, you know, break his arms

494

:

and legs and leave him in the closet.

495

:

You know,

496

:

Laura: I mean, can he still communicate

with another Leo Obin if you, in

497

:

like, if you just break his legs,

for instance, and have another

498

:

Leo Obin like, come get him out.

499

:

I don't think we know that for sure.

500

:

Xhafer: I mean, I assume there's cameras,

like I assume they have some way of

501

:

monitoring the situation in the room.

502

:

Laura: yeah.

503

:

Gross.

504

:

Even

505

:

Ben: If they care, this might be a okay.

506

:

'cause like when they have the

silent meeting, ban's not there.

507

:

Laura: Oh yeah.

508

:

He's not really in the

509

:

silo meetings.

510

:

Ben: ban's just doing his own thing.

511

:

And so everybody's just like, I

don't know, Leo's being weird for us.

512

:

And we have Cavel here.

513

:

Laura: What if the, like it be, he's

not in the silo meetings because

514

:

he is like, not in the silo council

because everybody's like, yeah,

515

:

like the Leos are fucking unstable.

516

:

So we don't let them rule with any power.

517

:

Xhafer: That doesn't hold water

because of stuff you don't know yet.

518

:

Laura: Okie dokie.

519

:

But they are unstable.

520

:

I don't like him.

521

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

522

:

Ben: We then cut to credits here.

523

:

15 minutes into the episode.

524

:

Laura: Oh, mine, were at the beginning.

525

:

Ben: Well, this is where

we get the theme song.

526

:

Laura: Yeah.

527

:

No, mine was at the beginning.

528

:

Xhafer: Oh, for the

529

:

two part,

530

:

Laura: Probably because of how they

531

:

Xhafer: Has to do with

how it was cut together.

532

:

Yeah.

533

:

Laura: yeah, yeah, yeah.

534

:

But so we don't get a

survivor count though, right?

535

:

I did not get survivor count.

536

:

Xhafer: we don't get a survivor count,

but we do get told it's been 134

537

:

days since the occupation started.

538

:

Laura: Yeah.

539

:

So about four, four and a half months.

540

:

Right.

541

:

Ben: Mm-hmm.

542

:

Laura: Uh, Rosalyn's doing

this through journaling.

543

:

She's telling us a lot

of the things we missed.

544

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

545

:

Log entries.

546

:

It's been a minute.

547

:

Laura: Yeah.

548

:

Ben: also feels like.

549

:

She's taking notes on a

goddamn criminal conspiracy.

550

:

Laura: Yeah.

551

:

She shouldn't be doing that.

552

:

Right.

553

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

554

:

Laura: First rule, don't write it

555

:

down.

556

:

Ben: why is she free?

557

:

Like why would they ever

let Rosalyn and Ty be free?

558

:

Xhafer: Ty, I don't understand.

559

:

Rosalyn.

560

:

They might figure she's not,

she didn't win presidency.

561

:

They have Baltar.

562

:

Who cares?

563

:

Laura: Yeah.

564

:

Ben: See, I would imagine

she's immediately like, Hey,

565

:

here's the opposite poll.

566

:

Half the people voted for her.

567

:

She's the easy rallying point

for a a counterinsurgency

568

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

569

:

Xhafer: they might be worried about

her being martyred if they take her

570

:

because of her religious status.

571

:

Laura: I think that, and like,

you know, she's had a year we saw

572

:

her like she's the school teacher.

573

:

Like she's kind of taken up a very

574

:

respected position in this community.

575

:

Xhafer: She might be the only one.

576

:

Laura: caretaking children.

577

:

She's like the only one.

578

:

It would probably really anger

people go, go for that martyr

579

:

status if we do something to her.

580

:

I, I think that's the logic.

581

:

Xhafer: imagine if, you know, you

took away daycare, Ben, for everyone,

582

:

because that's how some of these

people are viewing public school.

583

:

Ben: And so I pull out my gun.

584

:

I have my prop gun for the play I'm in.

585

:

I was,

586

:

you can't see that at

587

:

Laura: it, it was a very funny

joke on this end listener

588

:

but she still believes in Papa dama.

589

:

She tells us that in her journal.

590

:

Xhafer: Yep.

591

:

She goes about how everything just sucks.

592

:

And the puppet that's being mastered

by the CYS president, GAAS Baltar.

593

:

And this is where we cut over to

Colonial One, where the cys are having

594

:

a meeting with Gaas in the room.

595

:

Camels are hilarious here.

596

:

Laura: Yes, I'm with the Cavel.

597

:

Actually, I'm broken clock.

598

:

I'm ready for this.

599

:

Let's just kill Gaia Ballar.

600

:

Xhafer: Kill

601

:

Ben: I thought you were talking

about massacring civilians.

602

:

Laura: No, I'm talking

about the ball tar stuff.

603

:

Xhafer: Yeah, I,

604

:

Ben: But they make a good point

where it's just like, how about

605

:

we kill balter and Baltar's?

606

:

Like what?

607

:

Laura: Yeah, that That's the funny part.

608

:

Yeah,

609

:

Ben: even the Doral are like,

nah, the people would probably

610

:

cheer if we killed this asshole.

611

:

Laura: exactly.

612

:

They're like, yeah, no, that won't do

anything because nobody likes the guy.

613

:

Yeah.

614

:

Xhafer: Caprica six.

615

:

Defends.

616

:

Gais and Humanity in general here.

617

:

Ben: I do appreciate Cavel

being like, what is this?

618

:

A delusional machine?

619

:

As if it's a crazy

thing and not the exist.

620

:

Our experience dealing

with large language models.

621

:

Laura: Yeah.

622

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

623

:

Yep.

624

:

Laura: Yeah.

625

:

And Deanna asks six if her love

of Baltar is still worth it.

626

:

Xhafer: I.

627

:

Laura: And I, I don't, we don't

get a lot from Caprica six,

628

:

Ben: No.

629

:

Laura: I don't know if

she thinks that or not.

630

:

Ben: The thing I don't get here that

I wish I understood better is how

631

:

silo government air quotes works.

632

:

Because if Caval hates this and doesn't

wanna be part of it, couldn't he like just

633

:

go back and be king of Picon or something?

634

:

They've already destroyed the

original human colonies, you

635

:

know, as long as he's just like,

okay, just keep the humans here.

636

:

Whatever.

637

:

Like, he doesn't have to be here.

638

:

Laura: Yeah,

639

:

I, I wonder what, yeah, what is

going on in the original colonies?

640

:

Like did they pull up all their

stakes and just leave some

641

:

empty planets or like, are there

642

:

Ben: Yeah.

643

:

Are they, are

644

:

Laura: chilling, hanging

645

:

Ben: occupying them?

646

:

Do they, did they blow everything

up and then go back to Cylon Prime?

647

:

I dunno.

648

:

Laura: Yeah.

649

:

Xhafer: We cut back to Rosalyn after all

this, where she gives us the size update.

650

:

They're running around in

mass to hide their identity.

651

:

Good thing in this country,

we have no cowards,

652

:

Laura: Okay guys.

653

:

This was where I was like, you

know, it wasn't feeling great.

654

:

'cause all of the suicide bombing

stuff that's, that's clearly

655

:

being set up as like, hmm.

656

:

Pretty real.

657

:

But the police agents running around

completely covering their faces,

658

:

Xhafer: just disappearing people.

659

:

Laura: just disappeared.

660

:

People

661

:

Ben: yeah.

662

:

Laura: uh, We're in a bad place.

663

:

Ben: Remember a few years ago when

cops hiding their faces was the sign

664

:

of a fascism in the Watchman TV show?

665

:

Laura: Uhhuh.

666

:

Yeah.

667

:

Xhafer: Someone in Baltar's administration

is informing for the resistance.

668

:

They don't know who

669

:

Laura: Yeah.

670

:

But we do, do we know in this

episode or do we know in the next

671

:

Xhafer: I

672

:

Laura: Because I'll,

673

:

Ben: We know in this episode.

674

:

Laura: Okay.

675

:

Xhafer: I mean, oh yeah, we find

out at the end of this episode.

676

:

Yeah.

677

:

Ben: Yeah.

678

:

But we also, their signal is

flipping a dog bowl, which

679

:

Laura: Dogs do that

themselves all the time.

680

:

Ben: Yeah.

681

:

I'm just like, Hey, maybe get

a signal that the dog can't do,

682

:

Laura: Maybe it's a very well behaved dog.

683

:

'cause it is some sort of like very smart

shepherd looking breed like border colly.

684

:

I.

685

:

Xhafer: I mean, it's like

kind of in sand and stuff.

686

:

The dog could probably

flip the bowl upside down.

687

:

I think the dog would've a lot

harder time flipping it back up.

688

:

Laura: True.

689

:

Yeah.

690

:

Xhafer: So maybe if it's just, it's

upside down and you check new check,

691

:

Laura: I just hope this

dog is getting fed.

692

:

I was worried about this

empty dog bow the whole time.

693

:

Like somebody at some point needs to

be feeding this little beast because

694

:

it is, you know, innocent and pretty.

695

:

So,

696

:

Ben: Or Tiral doesn't come

back often enough, and so

697

:

somebody's just like feeding the,

feeding the dog in the morning.

698

:

And we don't see that the, the secret

locker is just stuffed full of documents.

699

:

Xhafer: It's like, I can

understand using this system.

700

:

I don't understand how you establish

this system without communication.

701

:

Laura: oh, well maybe they did

get an original message somehow of

702

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

703

:

Check

704

:

Laura: you see this go check

here, you know, that's, that's on

705

:

gata?

706

:

That's on, yeah.

707

:

Ben: secret note, stuck

under Tyrell's door.

708

:

Do you want to insurgent

against the Cylons check?

709

:

Yes or no?

710

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

711

:

Xhafer: After this Tyrell goes to the

meeting with Anders and the Saul collapse.

712

:

Ben: I.

713

:

Laura: Oh.

714

:

But before that, they have a little

moment uh, him and Callie, where she's

715

:

like cooing at the baby and is like,

Hey, I'll be back in a few hours.

716

:

And she's like, one day

you're never gonna come back.

717

:

Which is a fun foreshadow for the next

episode, but sort of a reverse foreshadow.

718

:

Anyway, So they're at

the resistance meeting.

719

:

Xhafer: Saul's really channeling

his inner Laura because they

720

:

have a chance to kill Baltar.

721

:

Laura: I am so ready, Saul.

722

:

Just do it.

723

:

Just do it.

724

:

Ben: I did really appreciate Anders

in this moment because to Saul is

725

:

just like the old man would never

leave us behind and Anders is like,

726

:

he already left me behind once,

727

:

Laura: So like from our perspective, we

didn't really see Star Bes tell Papa dama

728

:

that like, we have to go get these people.

729

:

Like, it kind of seemed like Star be,

it kind of seemed like Star BES was

730

:

just holding onto it for a bit because

she was looking for the right moment.

731

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

732

:

Laura: So come

733

:

Ben: from Anders point of view, all

Adama does is break little ships

734

:

eat noodles and lie, uh mm-hmm.

735

:

Laura: Yeah.

736

:

No, I, I like that Saul's keep in the

faith, and I love that we find out

737

:

that they, they planned for this, like

Saul and Papa dama weren't just like

738

:

sitting on their hands for a year while

Baltar was doing some stupid shit.

739

:

They were like sitting there in, in

the conference room and mocking up

740

:

plans for what if the Cys do show

up, what are we supposed to do?

741

:

Like, how do, how can we save the

human race again from dip Shit Baltar?

742

:

Ben: Who is the greater, the greater

danger, the cys or this idiot?

743

:

Laura: I think it's this idiot.

744

:

Like I'm still there.

745

:

Like, hmm.

746

:

Ben: I'm just like, when you are war

gaming out with Adama and Ty, where

747

:

are they thinking the, the danger is

748

:

Laura: I think Ty absolutely,

because he, in that one episode,

749

:

he clocked Baltar and was like, you

750

:

Ben: he did try to steal an election.

751

:

Laura: he, he tried to steal that election

'cause he knew what was fucking going on.

752

:

And, and he told Gada like, he didn't

trust Gaas or something, you know,

753

:

gada wanted to use his computer.

754

:

And he was like, nah, fuck that guy.

755

:

So for whatever I think of

Sahai, like, good on you, man.

756

:

And he is really pragmatic

about what happened to his eye.

757

:

He's just like, yep.

758

:

They took it outta my face and

it looked like a boiled egg.

759

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

760

:

Laura: Wow.

761

:

Okay.

762

:

So what that plan was though, was that.

763

:

Papa DAMA is going to put a raptor

out in the neer where the cys can't

764

:

detect it 'cause of the nebula.

765

:

And the humans are supposed to try to get

a signal to that raptor whenever they can.

766

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

767

:

Laura: So presumably for four and a

half months, every day a raptor has been

768

:

sitting in the nebula waiting for contact.

769

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

770

:

It's uh, we get confirmation of this later

in the episode where racetrack talks about

771

:

their, like, shift being up and stuff,

772

:

Where it's clear that they've

been doing this most of the time.

773

:

Uh, so that's cool.

774

:

Leo Obin shows up at the Dream House again

for Kara to tell him to fuck off again.

775

:

He makes some very

unwelcome sexual advances.

776

:

And uh, she finds that there are bars

on the other side of the front door.

777

:

Ben: Yes.

778

:

Laura: Uh,

779

:

Xhafer: Maybe she knew

780

:

Ben: We also,

781

:

Xhafer: Um,

782

:

Laura: I think she might've

known at this point

783

:

Xhafer: so,

784

:

Ben: We also get a bit where when he's

coming back we hear keys jangling and

785

:

it makes me wonder were there another

set of keys on the deadly open in the

786

:

house and like, does Lee Open have

to like resurrect and then go to the

787

:

locksmith silo, just be like, yeah, I

need another set of house keys again.

788

:

Xhafer: oh,

789

:

Laura: who's doing the

790

:

Ben: is the 12th set,

791

:

Laura: I feel like Simon

could be the locksmith.

792

:

I feel like.

793

:

He's got very technical abilities

or maybe a Doral is the locksmith.

794

:

Hmm.

795

:

Xhafer: seems like a

796

:

Ben: it's just a centurion.

797

:

And instead of like each time he

comes in, it kind of just like

798

:

side eyes, just like you are back.

799

:

It's like, don't you gimme any of that?

800

:

So.

801

:

Laura: If, if it's a centurion,

are they cutting the key

802

:

with their laser beam eyes?

803

:

Like

804

:

Xhafer: We cut over to Galactica at this

point where they're doing test flights

805

:

for a maneuver and they go quite poorly.

806

:

Papa Dama tells them to do it again.

807

:

Laura: for the 17th time?

808

:

Xhafer: Helo, Helo starts to object him.

809

:

Adama's like, fuck you.

810

:

They're doing it again.

811

:

Have them practice refueling mid-flight.

812

:

The

813

:

Ben: Yeah.

814

:

Adama's gone full Ahab.

815

:

He is that manager where it's like,

yes, we fired half the team, but

816

:

I'm not expecting any less of you.

817

:

You need to still hit those same KPIs.

818

:

Laura: Yeah,

819

:

it's sad to see daddy like this,

daddy doma and Lee tries to like

820

:

call and yell at him that, you know,

Hey, we don't, because we don't

821

:

know how long this maneuver takes.

822

:

Like they fucked it up 16 times, right?

823

:

But they need rest.

824

:

And it's like, yeah, maybe this

is like a hour long movement.

825

:

And so these people have been

for 16 hours flying not well.

826

:

And then of course Adama says

no, they've got to get it right.

827

:

And of course somebody crashes into

somebody else and whoopsie Adama starts

828

:

yelling at Lee's heavily Puttied face.

829

:

Ben: Yes.

830

:

Laura: We put a lot of face putty on Lee.

831

:

Ben: Yep.

832

:

This is the start of the Fat Lee Saga.

833

:

I,

834

:

Xhafer: Yep.

835

:

Laura: I don't know if they put him

in any, did they put him in like, not

836

:

just face prosthetic, but like actual

837

:

Ben: yes.

838

:

Xhafer: Yeah,

839

:

Laura: Yeah.

840

:

I kind of thought they must have, it's

so weird to me that like when we saw

841

:

them jump out after the cylon year or

the, the cylon free year, Lee was normal.

842

:

So he's supposed to have put on this

weight in three, four and a half months.

843

:

Xhafer: Lee is a little overweight

there because I knew this was coming,

844

:

so I was really trying to clock it.

845

:

And he does have a bit of a, like

a little bit of face putty, a

846

:

bit of a second chin thing going

on there, but it's not egregious

847

:

Laura: Yeah.

848

:

I didn't even

849

:

Xhafer: is here, where he's like

all cheeked out and everything.

850

:

I do mean the face cheeked out,

to be clear, although we do see

851

:

him in a towel for a bit, so.

852

:

Laura: The other thing that makes me

like strain, credulity a little bit on

853

:

that is like they jumped away at, you

know, urgent moment, big emergency.

854

:

How many supplies did you have?

855

:

How much opportunity does Lee have to

really be overeating on the Pegasus?

856

:

For real?

857

:

Xhafer: He is eating in

every scene we see him in.

858

:

Laura: I know.

859

:

I dunno.

860

:

I was

861

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

862

:

I, I, I agree.

863

:

You'd think there would be food shortages.

864

:

Laura: Yeah.

865

:

Ben: it'd be on starvation rations,

866

:

Laura: Yeah.

867

:

They're, they're like looking

for planets where they can

868

:

harvest anything to be a food.

869

:

I don't know.

870

:

I was just like, eh,

871

:

Xhafer: But maybe they've got all

the food sources on those ships and

872

:

everything that they need to feed

what was the entire fleet is now

873

:

being used to sustain a population,

a quarter or a fifth of its size.

874

:

Laura: Yeah.

875

:

I suppose one of them can be like the

greenhouse ship sort of thing and Yeah.

876

:

Xhafer: I would think they would move

that stuff down where most of the people

877

:

are, but maybe you can't, for whatever

878

:

Laura: Yeah.

879

:

Maybe some of it's

880

:

Ben: or you want to keep it in

space in case you have to bug out.

881

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

882

:

I mean, it is a, a, a design feature

of spaceships notoriously is that

883

:

it's significantly easier to build

them in space and not have to worry

884

:

about landing them on planets.

885

:

Getting in and out of the

planet is the tough part.

886

:

So

887

:

Laura: Right.

888

:

Ben: building the enterprise

in Montana is stupid.

889

:

Xhafer: building the enterprise

horizontally is stupid.

890

:

Laura: Also that, yeah.

891

:

Do you remember what a big deal

it was when Voyager came out that

892

:

Voyager could like land on a planet?

893

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

894

:

Laura: Yeah.

895

:

Xhafer: Well, it's like they, they

factored into the design of the ship.

896

:

It's all like, we're not gonna

do the weird neck and arm stuff

897

:

like the old enterprises had

so that it can do this thing.

898

:

Ben: mm-hmm.

899

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

900

:

Remember when that was a big deal?

901

:

Laura: Mm-hmm.

902

:

Xhafer: And then

903

:

JJ gave us the enterprise under the ocean.

904

:

Laura: Simpler times.

905

:

Simpler times.

906

:

Xhafer: Over on the Pyramid Court duck

is signed up for a suicide mission.

907

:

We know and are supposed to care

about this because of the resistance

908

:

episodes, which you probably skipped

and we probably should have skipped.

909

:

Ben: He was also in a few

episodes of season two.

910

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

911

:

Yeah.

912

:

Did

913

:

you know his name from those episodes?

914

:

Ben: No.

915

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

916

:

Laura: yeah.

917

:

Yeah.

918

:

And you didn't know about Nora at all if

919

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

920

:

Nora's

921

:

Laura: him from season two.

922

:

Yeah.

923

:

Yeah.

924

:

And that's a big deal.

925

:

'cause that's his motivation now.

926

:

He's, he has nothing to

live for without Nora.

927

:

So, Tyrell though is kind of

objecting to Ty and saying

928

:

like, Hey man, this is wrong.

929

:

But Ty, Ty is like, well, maybe

you'll feel that way once you

930

:

spend months in detention.

931

:

Xhafer: yeah.

932

:

Adam tells Sharon he feels

alone except for her,

933

:

Laura: Oh man.

934

:

Oh,

935

:

Xhafer: her cage

936

:

Ben: She is still in prison

though, but it's got a nice

937

:

Laura: oh, that's, she's in the cell.

938

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

939

:

Ben: Yes,

940

:

Laura: Oh, okay.

941

:

I, I thought it was just quarters.

942

:

Ben: yeah, but given like, hey, all the

pilots are in a communal bunk space.

943

:

Like her cell is bigger than

adama's quarters, so it's like

944

:

she accidentally ended up with

the biggest suite on the ship.

945

:

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

946

:

Laura: Yeah.

947

:

So, couple things here that I wanna

hit for one, this don't feel great.

948

:

Like people probably don't like how much

Adama and Sharon talk to each other.

949

:

Right.

950

:

Xhafer: Just wait.

951

:

Laura: Not, not great.

952

:

Xhafer: Well, I guess if you've

seen the next episode, you've

953

:

already seen some of that,

954

:

Laura: Yeah.

955

:

So

956

:

that's, that's concerning.

957

:

Also in their conversation, she mentions

that Adama put her in the cell a year ago.

958

:

So sometime during the silent for

a year, Sharon did something again

959

:

that he put her back in a cell

960

:

Ben: I don't.

961

:

Laura: or has she been in

the cell the whole time?

962

:

Ben: She's been in the

cell the whole time.

963

:

Laura: You think so?

964

:

Okay.

965

:

Ben: I think so.

966

:

Laura: Just a, just a weird way that was

967

:

Ben: Instead of saying

a year and a half ago.

968

:

Yeah.

969

:

Laura: She just said a year.

970

:

Okay.

971

:

Because I was

972

:

Ben: What do you guys think about her?

973

:

Her line rage is guilt made manifest.

974

:

That stuck.

975

:

That stuck with me.

976

:

Laura: Hmm.

977

:

I mean, my therapist once told me that

it's easier to feel mad than to feel sad.

978

:

Ben: Hmm.

979

:

Laura: And that's why

a lot of people do it.

980

:

Xhafer: Hmm.

981

:

Laura: 'cause they

really, they're sad, but.

982

:

Admitting and, and feeling the

emotion of sad doesn't feel as active

983

:

and powerful as the emotion of mad.

984

:

I feel like those two

things track together.

985

:

Xhafer: Yeah, that, I mean

that vibes, it's like, I mean

986

:

emotions, I think by their nature.

987

:

Can be very confusing,

988

:

so.

989

:

Laura: Yeah.

990

:

And uh, if we have a more active

outward emotion, we feel like we're

991

:

doing something rather than sitting

with the internal powerless emotion,

992

:

which I would say get sadness and guilt.

993

:

Definitely probably feel internal and

powerless, whereas anger and rage,

994

:

you feel like you're doing something.

995

:

Xhafer: Yeah.

996

:

Laura: Sorry to get,

sorry to harsh the vibe

997

:

Xhafer: oh what we said on Lady de Lee

998

:

Laura: dealing.

999

:

Ben: I was, I, I'm, I'm

pushing real hard for.

:

00:44:54,676 --> 00:44:58,611

Xhafer: di, I actually have that in

my notes for this part right here.

:

00:45:00,486 --> 00:45:01,056

Um,

:

00:45:01,281 --> 00:45:01,701

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:45:01,766 --> 00:45:07,191

Deland I like because it flows real nice,

but no, we've never actually know that

:

00:45:07,191 --> 00:45:09,531

His name is Leland, so I don't know.

:

00:45:10,041 --> 00:45:11,361

But Lidl, that's pretty funny.

:

00:45:13,146 --> 00:45:15,846

Xhafer: Talk about how Lee

has lost his edge also.

:

00:45:15,846 --> 00:45:16,806

They're married now.

:

00:45:17,631 --> 00:45:18,231

Ben: Yes.

:

00:45:19,236 --> 00:45:19,526

Laura: Okay.

:

00:45:19,851 --> 00:45:23,901

But she also said she married

him because he was like a dama.

:

00:45:23,901 --> 00:45:25,581

Did anybody else notice that?

:

00:45:25,731 --> 00:45:26,031

Ben: That,

:

00:45:29,241 --> 00:45:34,731

Hey, you know your dad that you never

got along with well, and is now currently

:

00:45:34,731 --> 00:45:36,711

like being a giant bitch to you.

:

00:45:37,281 --> 00:45:43,145

I married you because I have a strange

psychological relationship with him.

:

00:45:43,145 --> 00:45:45,875

It's like, ooh, that's the

worst thing you can say to Lee.

:

00:45:46,355 --> 00:45:47,525

Laura: Oh no.

:

00:45:47,765 --> 00:45:52,295

Also, didn't she tell us sometime

in season one or two that like she

:

00:45:52,295 --> 00:45:54,635

had a bad relationship with her dad?

:

00:45:54,935 --> 00:45:56,045

Oh no.

:

00:45:56,315 --> 00:45:58,475

It's daddy issues all the way down.

:

00:45:59,590 --> 00:45:59,810

Oh.

:

00:46:01,445 --> 00:46:02,585

Oh no.

:

00:46:02,675 --> 00:46:06,185

Don't feel like this

relationship is going to go well.

:

00:46:07,475 --> 00:46:07,775

Xhafer: yep.

:

00:46:09,005 --> 00:46:14,105

Tyro gets the jamming information from

the source, which allows them to reach

:

00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:16,145

the Raptor that's in orbit, hiding out.

:

00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:17,110

Laura: Hooray.

:

00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:19,460

Ben: Yeah, so Kenneth

gives him the frequencies.

:

00:46:20,465 --> 00:46:21,215

Xhafer: I understood that.

:

00:46:21,215 --> 00:46:25,975

REM reference they send a few texts

back and forth, back and forth.

:

00:46:26,075 --> 00:46:28,475

The Raptor heads back with

news about the rebellion.

:

00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,820

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:46:30,175 --> 00:46:34,105

Ben: Also, we get a weird

bit here where like, oh no

:

00:46:34,135 --> 00:46:35,515

racetrack's about to jump away.

:

00:46:35,515 --> 00:46:37,465

Will they get the signals to them in time?

:

00:46:37,555 --> 00:46:40,975

He's like, wouldn't another

Raptor be immediately jumping in?

:

00:46:41,665 --> 00:46:42,265

Would are?

:

00:46:42,265 --> 00:46:45,625

Wouldn't they be hot swapping or would

they have to wait until tomorrow morning?

:

00:46:45,835 --> 00:46:49,915

Xhafer: Well, I mean if they're,

if it's 24 hour coverage, yes.

:

00:46:50,495 --> 00:46:53,105

It might be that they said they

would be there certain times.

:

00:46:53,105 --> 00:46:56,345

They might not be able to maintain

someone there all the time.

:

00:46:56,495 --> 00:46:57,785

Laura: Yeah, that's true.

:

00:46:58,385 --> 00:47:03,965

Xhafer: Also, it might be two jumps at

the same time to like fucks with the,

:

00:47:04,325 --> 00:47:06,155

their ability to remain undetected.

:

00:47:06,815 --> 00:47:07,985

There's a couple of reasons.

:

00:47:08,585 --> 00:47:09,755

It's just drama, but it

:

00:47:09,845 --> 00:47:10,115

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:47:10,115 --> 00:47:11,765

We also gotta ramp the tension a

:

00:47:11,795 --> 00:47:12,095

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:47:12,545 --> 00:47:12,965

Oh yeah.

:

00:47:12,965 --> 00:47:14,915

It's been such a glow tension episode.

:

00:47:14,915 --> 00:47:18,455

We just need to squeeze a

little bit more juice out of it.

:

00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:20,680

Laura: but we do get like.

:

00:47:21,455 --> 00:47:26,525

As this is going through, as the

Raptor sends like a, Hey, we, we

:

00:47:26,525 --> 00:47:28,475

see you and we're coming for you.

:

00:47:28,475 --> 00:47:34,625

Like Saul cries a little and when the

Raptor reports back to Adama that,

:

00:47:34,625 --> 00:47:37,145

hey, they, they finally made contact.

:

00:47:37,145 --> 00:47:39,065

Like he's definitely missing up.

:

00:47:39,065 --> 00:47:44,955

Like I don't think we see tear, like

we see saw tie drop a tear, but it

:

00:47:44,955 --> 00:47:47,925

was like, oh my gosh, they did it.

:

00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:53,940

Ben: Now I'm wondering what

crying while missing an eye does.

:

00:47:54,879 --> 00:47:57,399

Laura: I imagine it depends on

the nature of the missing eye.

:

00:47:58,299 --> 00:47:58,749

Ben: Yeah,

:

00:47:59,199 --> 00:47:59,649

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:48:00,459 --> 00:48:00,759

Laura: There's

:

00:48:01,149 --> 00:48:02,829

Ben: it's just something I'd

never thought about before.

:

00:48:03,069 --> 00:48:03,789

Laura: yeah.

:

00:48:04,509 --> 00:48:08,289

Ben: We then get a scene

with Rosalyn and Tori

:

00:48:08,589 --> 00:48:09,789

who's hanging out

:

00:48:09,999 --> 00:48:13,149

Laura: Tori's still around

also should probably be like.

:

00:48:13,779 --> 00:48:15,759

Watched by somebody.

:

00:48:15,759 --> 00:48:16,329

Right.

:

00:48:16,659 --> 00:48:16,959

Ben: Right.

:

00:48:17,764 --> 00:48:18,184

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,889

Laura: surveillance should

have an eye on Tori.

:

00:48:20,919 --> 00:48:22,749

'cause she seems crafty.

:

00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:25,659

Ben: they also just, they

have enough centurions.

:

00:48:25,749 --> 00:48:29,139

They can just be like, Hey,

everyone here is your centurion.

:

00:48:29,409 --> 00:48:31,509

They follow you everywhere.

:

00:48:32,499 --> 00:48:33,024

Laura: Oh man.

:

00:48:33,024 --> 00:48:33,044

You're right.

:

00:48:34,539 --> 00:48:35,619

They could do that.

:

00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:36,579

Ben: why not?

:

00:48:36,579 --> 00:48:39,639

Otherwise, they're just sitting

there in the, in the bay stars just

:

00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:42,549

like, so what are you doing today?

:

00:48:42,789 --> 00:48:45,909

Same thing we do every

day, sitting in my alcove.

:

00:48:48,849 --> 00:48:49,269

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:48:49,449 --> 00:48:52,089

And somewhere they've gotten surveillance.

:

00:48:52,089 --> 00:48:56,169

I guess just from other

resistance people and

:

00:48:56,214 --> 00:49:02,064

Ben: And this scene implies the existence

of my second favorite character on

:

00:49:02,064 --> 00:49:09,624

this episode because right next to s

locksmith is human resistance photo mat.

:

00:49:10,054 --> 00:49:14,794

Some, somewhere at the new Caprica

Mall, there's two hour photo.

:

00:49:14,794 --> 00:49:16,174

You want one hour photo?

:

00:49:16,894 --> 00:49:17,374

Fuck you.

:

00:49:17,374 --> 00:49:18,394

I'm the only guy who does it.

:

00:49:20,524 --> 00:49:21,184

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:49:21,214 --> 00:49:21,604

Yeah.

:

00:49:21,604 --> 00:49:24,094

Let me print you this off

on some eight by tens.

:

00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:24,379

Uh,

:

00:49:25,114 --> 00:49:25,204

Ben: Yeah.

:

00:49:26,671 --> 00:49:29,281

Photos do not have the corners cut off.

:

00:49:29,743 --> 00:49:30,853

Laura: oh, it's true.

:

00:49:31,573 --> 00:49:32,203

Hmm.

:

00:49:32,683 --> 00:49:34,423

Ben: So they have the technology.

:

00:49:35,803 --> 00:49:36,283

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:49:37,043 --> 00:49:39,593

This surveillance has revealed

to them that they think that this

:

00:49:39,593 --> 00:49:44,093

police force that's been secretly

being trained is about 200 humans.

:

00:49:44,288 --> 00:49:44,708

Ben: Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:45,608 --> 00:49:46,958

Xhafer: 200 traitors

:

00:49:47,753 --> 00:49:48,263

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:49:48,353 --> 00:49:49,373

Collaborators.

:

00:49:50,288 --> 00:49:51,638

Xhafer: Collaborators.

:

00:49:52,028 --> 00:49:52,568

Yes.

:

00:49:53,138 --> 00:49:53,978

Laura: yeah.

:

00:49:54,008 --> 00:49:54,218

But

:

00:49:54,218 --> 00:49:56,738

Duck is gonna do something about it.

:

00:49:56,888 --> 00:49:57,098

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:49:57,098 --> 00:50:00,728

Ducks praying at Nora's altar,

which we know is significance

:

00:50:01,028 --> 00:50:02,498

because of the resistance episodes.

:

00:50:02,498 --> 00:50:05,198

We know that duck is not a

religious person that Nora was.

:

00:50:05,198 --> 00:50:08,408

So him praying at her altar is a big deal.

:

00:50:08,798 --> 00:50:12,158

If we cared about those

episodes, which we don't.

:

00:50:13,418 --> 00:50:14,048

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:50:16,718 --> 00:50:20,850

Ben: So now we get gada being

like, alright, gu guys, time

:

00:50:20,850 --> 00:50:22,350

to head over to that ceremony.

:

00:50:22,350 --> 00:50:27,000

And bolter's like, yeah,

but I don't want to.

:

00:50:27,390 --> 00:50:29,130

Security concerns.

:

00:50:29,781 --> 00:50:30,321

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:50:30,321 --> 00:50:37,161

I was wondering if perhaps, because

we don't hear from Caprica six, she's

:

00:50:37,161 --> 00:50:41,031

there, but we don't hear from her if.

:

00:50:41,961 --> 00:50:45,201

She thought that the camels

might be using this as an

:

00:50:45,201 --> 00:50:48,651

opportunity to get Baltar killed.

:

00:50:49,041 --> 00:50:51,831

So she told him, no, we're not going.

:

00:50:53,451 --> 00:50:54,291

I don't know.

:

00:50:54,994 --> 00:50:56,734

Ben: I just assumed he

was being a lazy dipshit.

:

00:50:57,409 --> 00:50:57,949

Xhafer: Same.

:

00:50:58,654 --> 00:51:01,174

Laura: I mean, lazy dipshit

is a possibility, but

:

00:51:01,474 --> 00:51:03,214

she's already tuned, tuned.

:

00:51:03,214 --> 00:51:09,694

And so is he into the fact that they don't

like him and they would like to kill him?

:

00:51:09,724 --> 00:51:14,704

So is is she like, let's

not go anywhere suspicious.

:

00:51:14,884 --> 00:51:17,074

And this could be suspicious.

:

00:51:17,479 --> 00:51:18,739

Xhafer: Don't be suspicious.

:

00:51:18,739 --> 00:51:20,149

Don't be suspicious.

:

00:51:20,449 --> 00:51:20,959

Don't be

:

00:51:20,959 --> 00:51:21,589

suspicious.

:

00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:22,009

Don't

:

00:51:22,029 --> 00:51:23,099

Laura: Don't be suspicious.

:

00:51:23,204 --> 00:51:28,849

Ben: And Gada here just starts booking

it like a guy with like three legs.

:

00:51:28,849 --> 00:51:30,064

He's just running so fast,

:

00:51:32,074 --> 00:51:32,884

Laura: Yes.

:

00:51:33,094 --> 00:51:34,864

Giving up all like.

:

00:51:35,449 --> 00:51:39,739

Pretense of formality and,

:

00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:42,739

Ben: but he does run back to

the dead drop instead of being

:

00:51:42,739 --> 00:51:46,309

like, here, here's the note.

:

00:51:48,709 --> 00:51:52,489

Laura: well, I, I guess it's not

in this episode, it's in the next

:

00:51:52,489 --> 00:51:56,929

episode, but it really seems like

Tyrell has no idea that it's gada

:

00:51:56,959 --> 00:51:58,429

who's passing him this information.

:

00:51:58,819 --> 00:51:59,039

Xhafer: Yes.

:

00:51:59,069 --> 00:52:00,479

That is a plot point for later.

:

00:52:01,429 --> 00:52:01,759

Laura: Yeah,

:

00:52:01,849 --> 00:52:04,399

Ben: But it is also one of those

things where it's like how many people

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00:52:04,399 --> 00:52:06,439

are in the Baltar administration?

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'cause Baltar's not doing

it, Zurich isn't doing it.

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Laura: Right.

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Ben: I

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feel like the Colonial

administration is like 20 people.

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Laura: yeah, it can't be that many, right?

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00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:21,049

Like

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Xhafer: most likely to feed the resistance

information out of these 20 people,

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Ben: Who is our goodest?

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00:52:27,574 --> 00:52:29,344

Goodest Boy, it's Gada.

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Xhafer: right?

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00:52:31,504 --> 00:52:38,194

Laura: I did not expect also for when

G'S hair to grows out for it to be curly.

:

00:52:38,344 --> 00:52:40,589

I was like, wow, okay.

:

00:52:42,904 --> 00:52:43,924

G's a curly man.

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I like it.

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Ben: I.

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Laura: But yeah,

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00:52:47,849 --> 00:52:48,059

Xhafer: Yep.

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00:52:48,249 --> 00:52:50,079

Duck puts on his suicide bomb.

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00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,339

The signal is missed.

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00:52:52,329 --> 00:52:58,785

Duck gets in his Hugo boss styled uniform

and goes to the graduation ceremony.

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00:52:59,832 --> 00:53:04,182

Ben: Well, it seems like he put on

his vest and then got dressed there

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00:53:05,172 --> 00:53:06,192

Xhafer: It does, doesn't it?

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00:53:06,222 --> 00:53:06,912

That's weird.

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00:53:06,912 --> 00:53:09,132

How did no one see the

bomb strapped to him?

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00:53:09,582 --> 00:53:14,877

Laura: especially the S that gave him like

the stink eye on the way in the centurion.

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00:53:17,327 --> 00:53:20,262

Ben: Is he that kid in middle

school who's like, I go change in,

:

00:53:20,322 --> 00:53:23,752

in the, the, the toilet because

I don't wanna change in front of

:

00:53:23,752 --> 00:53:25,252

everybody here in the locker room.

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00:53:25,462 --> 00:53:25,642

Um.

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00:53:27,277 --> 00:53:27,697

Laura: Yeah.

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00:53:27,797 --> 00:53:32,297

Uh, And this really makes me wonder about

the limitations of the BattleBots because

:

00:53:32,987 --> 00:53:38,027

I guess they don't have any sort of like

x-ray capabilities with those weird eyes.

:

00:53:38,297 --> 00:53:41,297

'cause you should have

seen the special vest.

:

00:53:41,878 --> 00:53:42,268

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:53:42,797 --> 00:53:46,059

Laura: So Deanna's gonna

lead the graduation.

:

00:53:46,059 --> 00:53:49,479

I don't know if Gais was supposed to

lead the graduation or just be there.

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00:53:50,399 --> 00:53:52,434

Ben: I dunno, but upgrade Lucy Lawless.

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00:53:52,704 --> 00:53:54,864

Always upgrade over Paul Tar.

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00:53:55,149 --> 00:53:55,569

Laura: Yeah.

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00:53:55,959 --> 00:53:59,499

As far as the, going back to our earlier

conversations, as far as the female

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00:53:59,499 --> 00:54:03,069

salons go, I haven't seen a lot of

variation from any of the Deanna's yet.

:

00:54:03,129 --> 00:54:05,769

Like, they seem pretty on task.

:

00:54:06,099 --> 00:54:08,544

Xhafer: I think we've

only met the one so far.

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00:54:10,299 --> 00:54:10,699

Ben: Hard to tell.

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00:54:11,404 --> 00:54:11,624

Xhafer: It

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00:54:11,804 --> 00:54:12,104

Laura: right.

:

00:54:12,104 --> 00:54:15,704

We know there was one in the fleet and

one on Caprica that were different.

:

00:54:15,764 --> 00:54:16,184

Right.

:

00:54:16,574 --> 00:54:18,674

We had two different Dan

that he is the least.

:

00:54:19,394 --> 00:54:19,724

Xhafer: yeah.

:

00:54:20,714 --> 00:54:21,114

Ben: I think so.

:

00:54:21,869 --> 00:54:26,728

Laura: So, it's, it's possible that this

Deanna is the same as one of those Right.

:

00:54:27,268 --> 00:54:30,148

But, uh, we don't

:

00:54:30,193 --> 00:54:31,603

Xhafer: are presumably not the same.

:

00:54:31,603 --> 00:54:32,113

Deanna.

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00:54:33,058 --> 00:54:33,268

Laura: Right?

:

00:54:34,583 --> 00:54:41,303

So she gives some kind of little

speech that I didn't absorb because

:

00:54:42,084 --> 00:54:43,854

frankly it made me uncomfortable.

:

00:54:45,004 --> 00:54:45,224

Ben: Hmm.

:

00:54:46,704 --> 00:54:49,224

Laura: We see Anders and Saul brooding.

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00:54:50,378 --> 00:54:52,928

As Duck is being handed his diploma,

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00:54:53,358 --> 00:54:53,778

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

:

00:54:54,128 --> 00:55:00,501

Laura: he tells Deanna that he's gonna

see Nora soon and it all blurs up,

:

00:55:01,225 --> 00:55:01,445

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:55:01,865 --> 00:55:03,820

It is brutal.

:

00:55:05,230 --> 00:55:13,097

The uh, the scene, we get a one

lingering shot of just chunks of bodies.

:

00:55:13,617 --> 00:55:13,837

Ben: Yep.

:

00:55:14,823 --> 00:55:15,898

It feels bad, man.

:

00:55:16,068 --> 00:55:17,058

Laura: Feels bad, man.

:

00:55:17,923 --> 00:55:18,143

Xhafer: Yep.

:

00:55:19,423 --> 00:55:20,713

Laura: Spoilers, precipice.

:

00:55:20,768 --> 00:55:22,153

Not gonna feel a lot better.

:

00:55:23,077 --> 00:55:28,087

So if you're going into that one

separately, listener, still bad times.

:

00:55:28,732 --> 00:55:31,012

Xhafer: Still bad times.

:

00:55:33,882 --> 00:55:36,462

we do have to rate this, I guess.

:

00:55:38,532 --> 00:55:42,952

I mean, we don't have to do shit but

we probably should for the sake of

:

00:55:43,777 --> 00:55:47,287

continuity tradition at this point.

:

00:55:47,287 --> 00:55:48,097

I don't know.

:

00:55:48,517 --> 00:55:49,687

Ben, how'd you feel about

:

00:55:49,752 --> 00:55:49,832

Laura: anything?

:

00:55:50,062 --> 00:55:50,352

Yeah.

:

00:55:52,357 --> 00:55:52,687

Xhafer: Ben?

:

00:55:52,687 --> 00:55:55,327

On a scale of one to 12 colonies,

how'd you feel about this one?

:

00:55:56,902 --> 00:55:59,197

Ben: For as dark as it is.

:

00:56:00,157 --> 00:56:01,537

This is a great episode.

:

00:56:02,647 --> 00:56:05,107

There is a ton of stuff going on.

:

00:56:05,107 --> 00:56:08,347

It is, Hey, you excited for season three?

:

00:56:08,407 --> 00:56:10,867

Here's a bunch of stuff

we're gonna put on the table.

:

00:56:11,227 --> 00:56:13,417

So I really liked it.

:

00:56:13,527 --> 00:56:16,767

I know some of what's, you know, I

remember what's coming in season three.

:

00:56:17,577 --> 00:56:21,687

Some of it's great, some of it is

missteps, but hey, nothing's perfect.

:

00:56:22,417 --> 00:56:25,297

So I'm gonna give this 11 colonies.

:

00:56:25,824 --> 00:56:26,304

Laura: Okay.

:

00:56:26,955 --> 00:56:27,915

Xhafer: This was good.

:

00:56:29,175 --> 00:56:33,015

I mean, it was, it's telling a story,

it's telling an important story.

:

00:56:33,495 --> 00:56:38,985

Making the good guy suicide

bombers in:

:

00:56:39,165 --> 00:56:41,475

that is, that is a choice.

:

00:56:42,075 --> 00:56:47,745

Um, I mean the, the London bombing, I

mean, was there's, there was still stuff.

:

00:56:47,745 --> 00:56:50,865

I mean, I know we're five years

out from nine 11 from the American

:

00:56:50,865 --> 00:56:54,585

standpoint, but there's still a

ton of stuff going on globally

:

00:56:54,585 --> 00:56:56,685

with suicide bombers at this point.

:

00:56:57,675 --> 00:57:00,405

And so for this to be a story point is.

:

00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,480

Brave if nothing else.

:

00:57:04,110 --> 00:57:08,040

And I know that the next episode

actually attempts to have a little

:

00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,280

bit of a conversation about it,

much more so than this one does.

:

00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:14,640

Um, so we'll get there.

:

00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,380

And I do feel this suffers from

being part one of a part two.

:

00:57:20,049 --> 00:57:24,069

In a lot of ways in ways that other

two parters of this show have also

:

00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:29,529

suffered and just run more in general,

tends to front load and then pay off.

:

00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:33,979

So for that, I'm gonna give

this one a eight out out.

:

00:57:33,999 --> 00:57:34,449

12.

:

00:57:35,028 --> 00:57:39,198

Laura: yeah, I think

I'm gonna do the same.

:

00:57:39,198 --> 00:57:40,548

I was, I'm so generous.

:

00:57:40,548 --> 00:57:45,978

I was thinking nine, but I am, I am

definitely biased by having watched

:

00:57:46,008 --> 00:57:52,008

both at once because the second half

I do feel was, I'm not gonna say

:

00:57:52,008 --> 00:57:55,727

more compelling, but it makes sense

that these would've aired together

:

00:57:56,447 --> 00:57:57,827

like that we would've kept going.

:

00:57:58,347 --> 00:58:01,317

So I'll, I'll give this an eight

'cause I feel like when we get to

:

00:58:01,317 --> 00:58:04,197

the discussion of the next one,

it's probably going up from there.

:

00:58:05,442 --> 00:58:10,062

So, yeah, but it is a great way to

start a season, especially because

:

00:58:10,062 --> 00:58:17,172

we've had such a huge change of scenery

from season two to season three.

:

00:58:18,162 --> 00:58:22,812

We've really established the planet

and what it's like under Cy Rule.

:

00:58:23,832 --> 00:58:31,902

And I am wondering now what did, I

guess in the quiz or the, the mid,

:

00:58:32,142 --> 00:58:34,977

mid show episode that we did GE fair?

:

00:58:34,977 --> 00:58:38,127

Did I say we were gonna have like

four or five episodes on the planet?

:

00:58:38,532 --> 00:58:39,132

Xhafer: yes.

:

00:58:39,807 --> 00:58:40,017

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:58:40,017 --> 00:58:43,497

I wonder, I wonder if I'm way off on that.

:

00:58:43,557 --> 00:58:44,037

I don't know.

:

00:58:44,709 --> 00:58:44,979

Xhafer: Well,

:

00:58:44,979 --> 00:58:46,749

you'll find out in four or five episodes.

:

00:58:47,724 --> 00:58:48,114

Laura: Yeah.

:

00:58:48,324 --> 00:58:49,434

We'll find out soon.

:

00:58:49,828 --> 00:58:50,248

Xhafer: All right.

:

00:58:50,248 --> 00:58:55,498

Well, soon as next week, we got season

two, episode two, precipice Adama.

:

00:58:55,498 --> 00:59:00,868

Plans to return to New Caprica and drop

off a surprising person to act as liaison

:

00:59:00,868 --> 00:59:05,368

between Galactica and the resistance

ties insistence on the use of suicide

:

00:59:05,368 --> 00:59:09,778

bombers and ever escalating violence

stuns the leaders of the resistance.

:

00:59:10,402 --> 00:59:12,532

Laura: Wait, isn't he the

leader of the resistance?

:

00:59:13,012 --> 00:59:13,342

Xhafer: well,

:

00:59:13,822 --> 00:59:14,572

Laura: Well, I know, yeah.

:

00:59:14,572 --> 00:59:14,872

I know.

:

00:59:14,872 --> 00:59:18,862

They're kind of setting like

Rosalyn is maybe the, I don't think

:

00:59:18,862 --> 00:59:20,392

anything's that formal though.

:

00:59:20,482 --> 00:59:21,472

I don't think there's a

:

00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,400

Xhafer: Yeah.

:

00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,350

Ben: Although Saul does seem

to be able to tell Tyrell and

:

00:59:27,350 --> 00:59:29,120

Anders, Hey, we're doing this,

:

00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:33,170

and they don't seem to be able

to be like, no, screw you buddy.

:

00:59:33,985 --> 00:59:35,000

Laura: yeah, that's true.

:

00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:35,840

Okay.

:

00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,950

Xhafer: All right, well we'll get to

that next week, but before we leave we

:

00:59:39,950 --> 00:59:44,030

gotta say thank you and we always start

our thank yous of thanking Jeremy Siegel

:

00:59:44,030 --> 00:59:45,680

for composing our lovely theme music.

:

00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,220

Thanks Jeremy.

:

00:59:46,220 --> 00:59:47,330

We appreciate you so much.

:

00:59:47,330 --> 00:59:49,730

You can find more Jeremy's

work at Jeremy SQL 40 two.band

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00:59:49,730 --> 00:59:50,420

cam.com

:

00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,910

and on streaming services

is nuclear Jaguar.

:

00:59:53,292 --> 00:59:55,422

Laura: and thanks to angry

Duck time machine on Instagram

:

00:59:55,422 --> 00:59:56,592

for the podcast artwork.

:

00:59:57,327 --> 01:00:00,267

Xhafer: Hey Aaron, thanks for editing

this podcast and making sure that,

:

01:00:00,627 --> 01:00:05,667

you know, you cut out all the dog

noises and the, the random of children

:

01:00:05,667 --> 01:00:08,427

walking into rooms and all that stuff.

:

01:00:08,427 --> 01:00:09,087

We appreciate it.

:

01:00:09,087 --> 01:00:09,777

Thank you so much.

:

01:00:10,354 --> 01:00:10,644

Laura: yeah.

:

01:00:11,039 --> 01:00:13,469

And hey Ben, thanks for being here with us

:

01:00:13,469 --> 01:00:13,919

today.

:

01:00:14,594 --> 01:00:15,194

Ben: Oh, I was looking.

:

01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:15,914

I was excited.

:

01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:21,939

Xhafer: Uh, You can find more of Ben and

I over on last time on another podcast

:

01:00:21,939 --> 01:00:25,659

on the network here where we pick shows

that we haven't seen along with our buddy

:

01:00:25,659 --> 01:00:27,639

Victor, AKA Dominion Media Television.

:

01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:31,249

Roll some dice, skip some episodes, try

to figure out what happened last time on.

:

01:00:31,249 --> 01:00:31,909

That's a good time.

:

01:00:31,909 --> 01:00:35,779

Ben, you also moonlight on a

Robinhood podcast quite often.

:

01:00:35,779 --> 01:00:36,644

Do you wanna plug that

:

01:00:36,649 --> 01:00:36,869

Ben: Yes.

:

01:00:37,714 --> 01:00:38,314

Yeah, sure.

:

01:00:38,314 --> 01:00:43,414

So if you like Robinhood, check out the

best Robinhood podcast on the internet.

:

01:00:43,414 --> 01:00:45,004

It is called Into the Greenwood.

:

01:00:45,364 --> 01:00:51,094

I'm on there every so often doing movie

reviews, and it's just a fun, nerdy time.

:

01:00:51,469 --> 01:00:53,279

Xhafer: just hanging out

with Robinhood scholars?

:

01:00:53,884 --> 01:00:55,504

Laura: Yeah, no big deal

:

01:00:55,609 --> 01:00:56,509

Ben: it was an accident.

:

01:00:56,509 --> 01:01:00,649

I, I didn't mean to get involved,

but now I'm like 10 books deep

:

01:01:00,649 --> 01:01:02,222

in the Robin Hood book club.

:

01:01:02,897 --> 01:01:03,467

Laura: man.

:

01:01:05,267 --> 01:01:06,587

As long as you are having fun,

:

01:01:06,587 --> 01:01:06,887

Ben.

:

01:01:07,442 --> 01:01:08,462

Ben: Oh, I'm having so much fun.

:

01:01:08,462 --> 01:01:08,522

I'm.

:

01:01:08,657 --> 01:01:08,927

Xhafer: Good.

:

01:01:09,369 --> 01:01:10,899

All right, well, we'll see you next week.

:

01:01:10,899 --> 01:01:11,349

Internet.

:

01:01:11,735 --> 01:01:11,955

Laura: Bye.

:

01:01:28,825 --> 01:01:36,715

Xhafer: Pull Mega Ann's Avalanche, which

is a rap song on a concept album that

:

01:01:36,715 --> 01:01:38,695

tells the story of Final Fantasy seven.

:

01:01:40,945 --> 01:01:42,355

And that's a line from

:

01:01:42,355 --> 01:01:44,695

Ben: Laura, that is the

appropriate response.

:

01:01:44,695 --> 01:01:46,315

Laura's making the face again.

:

01:01:46,765 --> 01:01:46,855

Uh,

:

01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:49,530

Xhafer: and

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Who Are You?
A Babylon 5 Watchcast
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.