Crusade 6 - Skibidi Toilet Homunculus
Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.
Laura introduces Xhafer to the wonders of Gen Alpha media. Meanwhile, the Excalibur crew explores yet another dead alien world with hidden secrets in Crusade: Episode 9 - Racing the Night.
Transcript
Hello, and welcome to Who Are You?
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:We're the Babylon 5 watch cast by a
couple of former strangers who are
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:now friends, and still getting to
know each other over one of their
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:favorite shows from their childhood.
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:I'm Laura,
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:Xhafer: Ja'far.
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:Laura: and today I'm going to ask
Jaffer one of the new questions.
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:Who are you?
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:Xhafer: Oh no.
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:Laura: I guess you can, you could
pick maybe, because we have two
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:questions that start with whom.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Whom do you serve,
Ja'far, or whom do you trust?
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:I'm not sure that grammar's right.
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:Xhafer: the questions are awkward,
the answers are awkward, probably.
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:the grammar is awkward.
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:It's a whole set of awkward over here.
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:Um, I don't know, whom do I serve?
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:Probably like, my job?
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:feel like that's you know, like, like
my family, my community, my loved ones.
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:Thanks.
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:I don't know.
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:I feel like those are all pretty,
very general answers, exactly.
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:I don't, I'm not a, I don't
think I'm a particularly exciting
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:dude to answer this question.
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:Um,
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah, we're
not Matthew Gideon out there
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:in space serving the earth.
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:So it's like, well, what do you want?
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:I, I
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:Xhafer: Well, even his answer's generic.
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:His answer's like, humanity.
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:Like, oh good.
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah,
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:Xhafer: Earthforce, right?
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:His answer's shit too, so I
don't feel too bad about it.
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:Uh, Whom Do You Trust?
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:I think gives us a little bit more leeway.
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:At the very least, gives me
a little bit more leeway.
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:Um, because besides fucking nobody.
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:Laura: even your podcast partners,
especially not your podcast partners.
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:Xhafer: Hard dead cell on the face there.
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:Um, no, I, I trust lots of people.
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:I don't know.
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:It's I uh, I try to be a
very open, trusting person.
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:It's something that I
used to not do at all.
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:In my twenties, I was notoriously
never trust anybody, you know?
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:But it's something that I've definitely
tried to give people a lot more about
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:the benefit of the doubt of in my life.
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:I've been rewarded for that.
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:I feel much more so
than I've been punished.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: it's, I think it's, it's hard
to trust people sometimes, especially
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:it depends on the, like, I think
it's easier to trust people with
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:big shit than it is a little shit.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: is that weird?
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:Is that, is that a weird sentiment?
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:Laura: can you provide examples?
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:Xhafer: I would much rather trust
someone with like a big life decision
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:or a, you know, like, A big financial
goal or something like, okay, you know,
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:save up 10, 000 to put a down payment
on a house or buy a car or something
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:that that's a lot easier for me to give
to someone than like doing the dishes.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Xhafer: Um, I think part of that
is that I'm very driven by like
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:a, I can ask someone or I can do
the thing in approximately one
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:and a half times it would take to.
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:Muster up the energy and ask
the person to do the thing.
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:So I just do the thing.
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:so I'm, I'm very bad at trusting
people with small stuff.
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:A hundred percent.
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:Like I, I know that about myself.
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:I would much rather just go
in, take care of something very
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:quickly if at all possible.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:That is a struggle when
you manage people though.
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:Xhafer: yes, it, a hundred percent it is.
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:Um, but also you're doing
different things, at least
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:if you are managing properly.
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:I feel like that's the difference
between a manager and a team lead.
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:A team lead is actually doing the
same stuff as the rest of the group.
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:They're just the senior most person.
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:A manager is doing a completely
other, different set of
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:shit that has some capacity.
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:To impact the people below and just
things feed up the chain that way.
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:A
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:Laura: I think it might depend on
your size of your organization too.
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:Xhafer: hundred, well, a hundred percent,
I think in a smaller organization, you're
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:going to find a lot more team leads
who are managers than you are managers.
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:Laura: Yeah,
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:Xhafer: Um, and I think a manager
should be able to be able to do the job
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:of everyone that they're supervising,
but also the manager should be the
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:worst person at that job on the team.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:I know I am.
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:Xhafer: I mean, you've got the
least amount of like hours locked,
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:Laura: Yeah,
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:exactly.
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:Right.
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:Xhafer: even if you didn't at
one point and you were the best
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:person at that job at one point.
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:Laura: Yeah, you left it.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: You left it,
you're out of practice.
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:there are things that I've led
people for doing for years.
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:That, if you were to throw me
in a situation where I had to do
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:it now, years removed, could I?
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:Probably.
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:Would you want me to?
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:No.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Yeah, for sure.
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:Xhafer: so it's a bit different.
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:I don't know.
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:I feel like I've vamped on this all I Can
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:Which is a
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:shame,
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:Laura: episode for 30 minutes?
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:Xhafer: I hope I can vamp on an episode
for 30 minutes because right now our track
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:record for Crusade episodes is not great.
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:We've been really working to fill
the time like I'm doing right now
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:by just blathering on incessantly.
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:So that way we have a decent run time
for an episode because we've been
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:covering these things in like 20 minutes.
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:Laura: You know what we could do
to slow things down a little bit?
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:We could uh, do this opening with
a little bit of lag, where, like,
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:our words are just a little bit
slower, like, maybe at half X speed.
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:Like, kind of like the
open of this episode.
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:Xhafer: right.
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:Did you know this was
supposed to be the pilot?
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:Laura: Huh.
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:Okay.
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:Xhafer: Not in any order.
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:It's never the pilot in any order, but
JMS wrote this as the pilot and it was the
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:second episode to air on TNT because they
made him go back and make an actual pilot.
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:Laura: Uh Huh, right.
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:I do remember talking about that.
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:This has that kind of money
dumped into it, doesn't it?
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:Because there's a lot of CG
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:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
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:Laura: have.
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:Xhafer: Pointless exposition,
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:Laura: yeah.
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:Xhafer: just like characters reminding
us who they are and what they're
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:doing there out loud, in ways that
don't make sense for the fifth episode
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:of a show, but make a lot of sense
for the first episode of a show.
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:Mm hmm.
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:Laura: Yeah Matthew Gideon is
spending a lot of time, like,
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:brooding over his mission as well.
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:Like, Because we open Oh, should
we tell them which episode this is?
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:Xhafer: this is uh, Racing the Night.
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:This is the second episode
on the DVD and Air Order.
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:Laura: But it is technically number 9
if I'm looking at our spreadsheet right.
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:Laura: Oh
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:Xhafer: It is,
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:yeah, it's, it's, this is one of the
reasons, I mean, so a lot of the reading
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:that I did today, particularly about
Crusade, was about the like, shit show
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:of TNT deciding to can it halfway through
and the fight for sci fi to pick it up.
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:Laura: Huh.
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:Xhafer: Which apparently was very
close to happening, but because TNT
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:had dropped it, like, months into
the year, their all of SyFy's budget
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:on, like, production was spent.
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:Xhafer: Just everything was allocated
for, they were talking about cutting
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:episodes of other shows to make
room to pick up Crusade and stuff.
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:It was a whole thing.
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:Laura: Whew.
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:That sounds like a nightmare too.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: It wouldn't have been
great if it had happened.
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:Xhafer: No.
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:I mean, and it's just like, knowing
the time frame, like, Okay, could we
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:have done one less season of Eureka?
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:Probably.
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:Uh,
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:Laura: that show.
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:Xhafer: I mean, what, what, what
would have been the actual cost
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:for sci fi to pick it up is I think
interesting because it might've been
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:like, I think this would have been
around the same time they got SG 1.
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:So it
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:Laura: a good get, though.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: so there might've been a
universe where Crusade drops before
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:SG 1 can get picked up and We end
up with a full five seasons of
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:Crusade and SG 1 dying on Showtime.
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:I don't know.
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:I'm, I'm, I don't, I don't
know the actual specifics.
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:I'm just guessing based off of the time
frame from things I remember right now.
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:To be clear, listener, I've
put no research into this.
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:This is me spitballing.
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:Uh, So if I'm super wrong, I don't,
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:Laura: It's all a brain exercise, anyway.
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:Xhafer: I'm just trying to spend
another four minutes talking
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:about something before we get to
this episode and I've done that.
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:So, we open on a flashback
to some ambassadors.
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:Uh, This is in Lockley's
office on Babylon 5.
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:I don't know if you clocked
it from the background.
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:Laura: but, no Lockley, though.
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:Xhafer: Still no Lockley.
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:Laura: Very disappointing.
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:Xhafer: Gideon, when talking to the TROC
ambassador and speaking to that kind of
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:like, block, There's like, at the end
of season five, there were a couple of
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:these races that were really just like
in a group together in the interstellar
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:alliance where like, we're the small guys.
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:So we're going to all
team up to have some sway.
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
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:Used to be the non aligned worlds, now
we're gonna try to align a little bit.
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:Xhafer: ambassador is like, look,
we'll give you free passage through.
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:Oh yeah.
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:Not the Drak ambassador.
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:The Drazi ambassador, um, is like, you
got five years, you can spend four.
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:With free passage through our space,
and that fifth you're spending
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:stopping anyone from getting off Earth.
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:Laura: We know now that
people would not wait.
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:For that fifth year, right?
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:Like, people are trying
constantly to get off Earth.
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:They are, like, hurtling themselves
at the sky with anything they can.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, some dude in
Oklahoma just built his own rocket
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:to prove that the Earth is flat
and to escape the drog plague.
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:Laura: Yes,
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:exactly.
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:Xhafer: Like, you know you're infected!
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:That's the whole point, right?
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:Like, maybe I'm special and I'm not
infected so I can go live somewhere else.
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:It's all like, not gonna help.
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:Laura: Nope.
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:Uh, We can't wait five years for that.
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:The drowsy needs to park his spaceship
outside of Venus right now and just,
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:like, start shooting at people.
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:Yeah, this scene was real weird.
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:It was real, um, I know it's supposed to
be like a dream flashback kind of thing,
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:but it looked like, it reminded me of a
video game that's not buffering well the
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:Xhafer: It's so sepia,
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:Laura: Mm hmm.
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:Xhafer: and it's
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:Laura: And choppy.
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:Mm
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:Xhafer: awkward first person angles.
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:It's just, yeah, the whole, the
whole thing did not, did not
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:flow for me particularly well.
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:Nor for Gideon, who agrees to this
deal, and gets a slight bitching
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:at from a Earthforce whatever.
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:Laura: He, he was fine agreeing to
this deal because people are already
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:trying to get off earth, in my opinion.
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:Like, he's just like,
yeah, whatever, fuck it.
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:Like, what are you going to do?
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:Make me come back in the, you
know, day 364 of that fourth year?
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:Like,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:You're gonna make me come back, Drazi?
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:Have you seen my ship?
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Try.
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:Laura: like, okay, whatever.
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:I don't know why this general is so upset.
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:Why does he care?
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:But we see them drop him off
at the Excalibur for the first
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:time.
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:Xhafer: hmm.
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:Um, and then he, he wakes up
from this flashback nightmare.
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:They're on a planet, he
goes for a motorcycle ride.
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:Laura: I should have made
a bingo card for this show.
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:If I I think if I'd had more,
like, Airwolf from Cool Girls Don't
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:Look at Explosions under my belt,
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:I could have made up a little bingo card
for us of, like, the 90s tortured loner
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:In charge of a big, big task tropes
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: you know, he's got his flying
motorcycle because this is space
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:Xhafer: Oh,
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:Laura: and, you know, he's got his
shades and his hairdo and it's just
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:so like that 90s trope of I'm the
tortured guy who's on a big mission.
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:I was like, okay,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: neat, neat.
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:Oh, well, that, that bingo
card will come soon someday.
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:Xhafer: Anyways he's riding around
and some rando who looks like he's
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:part of IPX gets got to Thiem.
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:After Thiem, Max is working
hard on translating technology.
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:Laura: Mm hmm.
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:Xhafer: There's these tremendous
leaps and bounds here that are
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:half written on the wall, but
Gideon just does not give a fuck.
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:This mission is much like
Nerf, it's cure or nothing.
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:Laura: Why?
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:As if we're such an advanced civilization.
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:Why are we writing our equations and
stuff on the walls in hieroglyphics?
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:Xhafer: Yep, that doesn't make no sense.
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:Also, like, one of the things he
rambles off is, like, a way to double
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:their current means of propulsion.
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:Wouldn't that be worth
your time for this mission?
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:Laura: Mm hmm.
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:Yeah, but Gideon's all like, well,
where's the medical information?
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:I need the medical stuff.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: okay.
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:Never mind that, you know, science
crossbreeds all the time, and important
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:discoveries in one area can lead to
important things in another area.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: warp field thing
makes the disease slow down.
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:Or the radiation from the
weapon technology could kill it.
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:You know, like, it's all worthwhile.
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:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
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:We do find out that Eilerson is a Marzi.
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:He was a native Martian.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: So he's, he considers it
like, I'm doing you guys a favor.
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:I'm not even an Earth human
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:and
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:I'm just here to share.
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:Xhafer: Gideon pushes
Max to move on as Dr.
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:Chambers confirms a few things.
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:Uh, This species died off suddenly
a thousand years ago, but many races
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:have visited in the last 50 years.
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:She talks about skin, micro skin flakes
being on the, the ground and stuff,
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:Laura: That is
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:Xhafer: pull DNA samples.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:That is kind of interesting.
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:Xhafer: I have to go scrub every
surface of my house now, thank you.
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:Laura: A thousand years ago, you say?
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:Xhafer: Yeah,
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:Xhafer: hmm, you think there's
something important in Babylon 5
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:history like a thousand years ago?
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:Maybe.
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:Xhafer: That ambiguous thousand years ago.
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:Yeah.
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:Hmm.
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:I wonder if that will be part of the plot.
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:Huh?
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:Laura: I do appreciate that Chambers
actually asked the same question
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:at a point, so I think that might
have been JMS, like, nodding to
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:us who were saying, Why would
they write these in hieroglyphics?
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:Because she kind of asked the same thing.
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:She's like, Why did they do that?
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:Oh, well, moving on.
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:Oh, hey.
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:We mentioned that other
aliens had been here.
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:Well, Darina is about
to find all the bodies.
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:Xhafer: Doreena is crawling
around in some tunnels.
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:I think this is a drach skull
that drops out on her by the way
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:Laura: That's what Aaron said.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, I'm glad that I wasn't
the only one who thought that.
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:I didn't see it on any of the
notes anywhere online, but
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:to me it looked like a Drax
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:Laura: Why would the Drak have been Were
they just, like, there to deliver the
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:shit and maybe some of them got, got, or
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:Xhafer: We don't even see them, like,
in the flashback sequence where we learn
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:what happened a thousand years ago.
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:They're not involved.
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:Maybe they came here to get it.
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:Maybe they knew about it and they
were like, Well, we need this shit.
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:Xhafer: yeah, but that has some
other interesting implications.
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:Like the entire crew is infected.
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:Laura: Huh.
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:Oh.
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:Yeah.
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:Hmm.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Well, is the virus
still alive on the planet?
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:Like, cause all the people who had it
are down in those cryo chambers, right?
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:I mean, I would think that if
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:just fucking the order of the
story goes in the episode, so
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:there's the key caretakers who
are like alive for two years,
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:Laura: Uh huh.
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:Xhafer: So the virus must still be active.
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:Like, because these, they're
pulling someone out every two years.
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:Even if it's just like in a small
chunk of the planet or something.
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:They're not like out spreading
it around the cities, I guess.
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:But,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: I would think that any planet
that they go to that was impacted by this
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:virus, the virus would still be there.
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:That's, it's like not
a normal type of thing,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:It is an engineered virus.
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:We know that for sure.
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:Hmm.
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:Xhafer: They, you know, they call Earth a
dead world afterwards, not a world we have
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:to wait 50 years before we can go back to.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Hmm.
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:Xhafer: Which is a thing I've brought up
a few times now, is that they keep going
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:to all these worlds that they think the
virus has hit, where everyone's dead.
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:And it's just like, you're, you're
just gonna pick up mutated fucking
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:strains that make things worse, guys.
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:Laura: yeah, yeah, don't go there.
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:Yeah, so she finds a weird light
in the hole she's crawling through
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:these tunnels in the ground, and
she's like staring at it, but she
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:gets called back because of murder.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Dun, dun, duuun.
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:Laura: This is weird and rude, which
is pretty much all Eylerson is.
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:But he, like, tries to throw Chambers
under the bus, because they're like,
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:Oh, you know, this planet was supposed
to be uninhabited, and he's like,
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:Well, you know, Chambers must have
gotten her data wrong, and then I made
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:a bad call because of her bad data.
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:And it's just like,
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:Xhafer: Rude.
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:Laura: he's so rude.
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:He's so rude.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: is accepting responsibility?
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:I've worked with this guy.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: Yep.
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:So they're investigating some drones
show up while they're investigating,
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:and Gideon hops on his space motorbike
to lead them away in an epic chase
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:scene that's done entirely in
not the worst CGI of the episode,
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:Laura: Uh Huh.
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:Xhafer: but second
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:Laura: huh.
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:Xhafer: Galen comes in to save his
life at the last possible moment.
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:Laura: Yeah, I honestly did not
realize until I heard Galen's voice
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:that that was his ship coming in.
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:Like, it was so hard to like, parse
that CGI visually in my brain.
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:I was like, oh, oh, I guess that's Galen.
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:Mm
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:Xhafer: Galen has decided that he'll
help on this mission, but he's gonna be
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:a sassy bitch about it the whole time.
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:Which, frankly, same.
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:Laura: hmm.
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:Xhafer: If you ask me to
move, I'm gonna be like, sure.
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:But the price you pay for me helping
you move isn't beer and pizza, it's my
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:comments about how heavy that dresser is.
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:Laura: Galen is my favorite
energy on this show so
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:far.
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:Xhafer: For sure.
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:Laura: techno mage bitch,
that's what I want.
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:Xhafer: Uh, We get a quick scene
with Galen doubling down on not
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:teaching Jorana Technomagic.
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:Laura: Yeah, I didn't even
know she wanted techno magic.
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:Xhafer: I mean, if this was supposed
to be the second episode, then she
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:might have asked at some other point
in between Call to Arms and now.
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:I mean, to be fair, if I meet a
Technomage, I'm gonna be like,
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:hey, you guys like recruiting?
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:Laura: Yeah, instantly.
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:I like to blow stuff up.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, I like being
a terrible menace across the
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:galaxy and a sassy bitch.
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:So, I mean.
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:Laura: I look fantastic in
a robe, I'm just saying.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, right?
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:I have like three already.
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:I'm covered.
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:Don't even worry about
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:Laura: I'll bring my own.
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:BYO robe.
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:Xhafer: B Y O R.
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:That, that, we got to
get that on a t shirt.
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:Um, so Galen summons his homunculus
and sends it down to the uh, planet.
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:What follows is The
worst CGI of the episode.
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:Laura: Erin said, this is
going to live with me forever.
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:I do believe it's at the point,
so, you know, this thing.
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:Jaffer, are you familiar with the internet
sensation that is Skibbity Toilet?
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:Xhafer: I know it's
something the kids say.
462
:Laura: It comes from some YouTube
videos that I believe use some of the
463
:models from like Half Life, Half Life 2.
464
:Like, those kind of Gary's Mod, um,
465
:Xhafer: I played those games.
466
:Laura: yeah.
467
:the, this thing looks like
Skibbity Toilet Man to me.
468
:Haha.
469
:Xhafer: I am, I'm pulling up
Skibbity Toilet right now.
470
:76?
471
:It's a series?
472
:Oh god,
473
:Laura: Ja'far is making some really
great faces, I just want everyone to
474
:know since this is not a visual medium.
475
:But they're very animated.
476
:Xhafer: I, how is this
a, how is this a series?
477
:It's 76 episodes?
478
:What is Okay.
479
:Okay.
480
:You know what?
481
:I would say that the graphics in
this are worse than Skippity Toilet.
482
:But,
483
:Laura: Right?
484
:Yeah.
485
:Yeah.
486
:Xhafer: you're right, this is like
very Garry's Mod Half Life 2, um, man.
487
:Laura: Yeah.
488
:We get to watch the homunculus get
vivisected by the drones and beheaded
489
:and then like staring out the window
as, as he gets like carted away.
490
:Xhafer: he just like pops his head in
there and he's like, Oh, don't mind me.
491
:Laura: And I guess we see through
the homunculus's eyes because it
492
:observes a like graveyard of ships.
493
:Xhafer: We recognize some of these ships.
494
:Laura: There's the flying saucer.
495
:Is that the
496
:Vrii?
497
:Xhafer: Yeah, there's a Gnarn Destroyer
498
:Laura: Uh huh, yeah.
499
:Xhafer: Bunch of stuff, it's cool.
500
:Laura: Mm hmm.
501
:Xhafer: Don't recognize all of
them though, which is also cool.
502
:Laura: Yeah.
503
:I
504
:mean, it's been a thousand years.
505
:Xhafer: Yeah, there's some Easter
eggs for races that they're gonna
506
:encounter later in here, I bet.
507
:At the very least, there were
plans for that for when this show
508
:was gonna run for five years.
509
:Laura: Right, right.
510
:Xhafer: Yep, but it's clear now
that this was all a big ol trap.
511
:Laura: And then, at this moment, Darina
chooses to tell everyone about the
512
:bodies, which is just chef's kiss.
513
:Love it.
514
:Dramatic timing.
515
:She's got that down.
516
:Galen, just give her a job.
517
:Come on.
518
:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
519
:I mean That's like a third
of being a Technomage.
520
:But she's real good at that third.
521
:Laura: Yeah.
522
:I mean, it's important.
523
:Xhafer: The dramatic timing.
524
:You can't be a Technomage unless
you excel at dramatic timing.
525
:Laura: Which she makes that
pointed argument to him here.
526
:And they decide to go check out
this, well, I guess maybe send
527
:some drones to check out this
power source that she found.
528
:Xhafer: Yeah.
529
:So they start doing some scans
now that they know where this
530
:reactor and all these bodies are.
531
:The drones come for the
Excalibur in response.
532
:They try to escape.
533
:They find out that they're in a
gravity well, keeping them in place.
534
:So they send out the fighters to
defend the Excalibur and do a little
535
:quick bombing run on the gravity well,
but they don't do any damage and the
536
:gravity well just speeds up pulling
them down cause you're fucking with it.
537
:Laura: I don't know how
gravity Gravity Wells works.
538
:Especially because it's sci fi and
it's whatever we want it to be,
539
:right?
540
:But, I feel like if the gravity well is
pulling your very large ship down slowly,
541
:if you launch fighters into it, aren't
the fighters gonna get pulled down faster?
542
:Like,
543
:Xhafer: I would imagine that the
only way that this would work is if
544
:it's like, The, the, the gravity well
can't be centered on the thing that
545
:they're trying to blow up, right?
546
:Because if you did that, and
it was pulling things in, the
547
:city wouldn't exist anymore,
548
:Laura: Oh, yeah,
549
:Xhafer: right?
550
:So you gotta put the gravity well
that's starting its descent up in the
551
:atmosphere somewhere, to impact the
ship, but not the stuff on the surface.
552
:Laura: Yeah, okay.
553
:Xhafer: then you just kind of like, once
it starts going down, you know, maybe
554
:you turn it off, let it go a bit more and
then turn it on behind it or something.
555
:Or, you know, there's a couple
of ways you could do it.
556
:It might be on the other side of
the ship and it's pushing them down
557
:as instead of pulling them down.
558
:Laura: Uh Huh.
559
:Xhafer: Um, that'd be
another safer way to do it.
560
:and where the fighters are would all
be impacted a great deal by this.
561
:Also like.
562
:It's a lot easier to move a
small thing than a big thing.
563
:Laura: Yeah, very
564
:Xhafer: You know, like, the energy
required to move the small thing.
565
:So the ship, the smaller ships might
be able to escape no problem, and
566
:the bigger ship might just be fucked.
567
:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
568
:If you invite Jaffer to come help
you move, and you don't give him the
569
:heavy dresser, you just give him some
of your, like, shoe boxes, you're
570
:gonna get a lot less complaining
than with the heavy dresser.
571
:Yes.
572
:Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
573
:Xhafer: sitting here thinking
about all the heavy shit he asked
574
:me to move last time he moved.
575
:Laura: Yeah, so as we were examining
stuff, we also found that it's
576
:not just like a power source.
577
:There is a whole huge
cryo chamber down there.
578
:And there's lots of alive bodies, alive
frozen bodies in this cryo chamber.
579
:Xhafer: Yeah, this race
isn't dead, they're napping!
580
:Laura: So to be fair,
they, they went to it.
581
:They thought they were going to a
dead world, but they actually went to
582
:a world that still has people on it.
583
:They just haven't done the thing.
584
:Xhafer: Yeah, they're just sleeping.
585
:Laura: They, they haven't figured it out.
586
:So yeah, this wasn't super helpful.
587
:Xhafer: They're in a thousand year siesta.
588
:I'm here for that.
589
:That sounds nice.
590
:Laura: that.
591
:Yeah, that sounds great.
592
:Xhafer: Right?
593
:Oh, I'm so tired constantly.
594
:Laura: Same.
595
:Uh, So yeah, they try to
fire the main guns, right?
596
:Xhafer: the main gun does the job.
597
:The main gun uh, we see, like, obliterate
the city or whatever, like, it's, it's
598
:not looking good down there, we see
the explosion from space so whatever
599
:was causing that gravity well stops
fucking causing that gravity well.
600
:They stabilize, the ships stop attacking,
and then the ship gets scanned.
601
:And they note that the computer bases
have been, databases have been downloaded.
602
:Laura: Uh Huh.
603
:Yeah.
604
:Like everything all at once.
605
:Xhafer: And then a moment
later they get hailed
606
:Laura: They get like a
hollow transmission, right?
607
:Xhafer: yeah, they got that thing
from the Bridge of Defiant that
608
:they only used for three episodes.
609
:They get that installed over here.
610
:Laura: Very nice.
611
:Xhafer: Yeah.
612
:The thing that lets Cisco yell at
Eddington in person and then it was never
613
:used again, except once by Golducott.
614
:That one.
615
:Yeah.
616
:Those actors have chemistry.
617
:You want to let them do it.
618
:It's I get it.
619
:Laura: Mm hmm.
620
:You just gotta write it in
somehow, you know, sometimes.
621
:Xhafer: and this is where we learn
that this planet was attacked by the
622
:shadows during the last great war.
623
:Laura: Yeah, it was the
shadows, not the Drak.
624
:Xhafer: yep.
625
:And we see shadow, we see
spider ships and all that stuff.
626
:They're spreading the plague, they're
doing the thing, and then they peace.
627
:Cause they're just gonna use
this world as a base later.
628
:They'll get around to it, and
then they never got around to it.
629
:Laura: Yeah.
630
:Xhafer: How are the crew of the
Excalibur not infected right now?
631
:Laura: like from being on that planet?
632
:Yeah,
633
:I mean, I guess you could,
like, argue that the virus
634
:is only present in the hosts.
635
:Mm hmm.
636
:and we're not exposed to any
of the hosts at this point.
637
:Xhafer: Okay, so what about all
those bodies Doreena was around?
638
:Laura: I just assumed
the drones killed them.
639
:Xhafer: Now, no one, the
caretaker didn't go inspect and
640
:do some science or something?
641
:Laura: No, I was thinking
they all got, like, vivisected
642
:by the, by the drone thingy.
643
:Xhafer: Okay.
644
:Laura: Some of them beheaded,
some of them taken away.
645
:And then, of course, there's
the ones you don't need.
646
:You just shoot those guys, right?
647
:Xhafer: Yeah, yeah.
648
:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
649
:That's, that's my
headcanon to make it work.
650
:Xhafer: Okay.
651
:Laura: Even though we know that's
not necessarily how viruses work.
652
:Xhafer: Yeah, so they did not have
much along the lines of space travel.
653
:So they did not have the option of
going and exploring like Earth does?
654
:Laura: which is weird.
655
:We have this power that could
revolutionize our propulsion,
656
:but we don't do space?
657
:Xhafer: Well, that's the thing,
is they only had half of those
658
:equations written out, remember?
659
:They were, there was,
nothing was complete.
660
:So, so it's probably just bullshit.
661
:That was my assumption.
662
:Laura: Yeah, just to like get people
to stay long enough to get guided?
663
:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
664
:Laura: Hm.
665
:Okay.
666
:Xhafer: Yeah, it's all like, here
is the secret of the universe.
667
:All you have to do is follow these
42 steps, and then it stops at 7, and
668
:then you have to find the rest of the
missing tablet, but it's not there.
669
:Laura: Here's something I want
to point out about all these
670
:dead worlds we've been to.
671
:Xhafer: Yeah, let's hear it.
672
:Laura: Are all these races literally just
like one type of being on the planet?
673
:We have no animals, we have no
reptiles, we have no mammals,
674
:we have no other things.
675
:Xhafer: I think the implication
is that the Drak Plague will
676
:kill all life on the planet,
677
:not just humans.
678
:Um, but some of these worlds, that
is 100 percent a fair criticism of.
679
:Laura: Yeah, like, I mean, it would
be so much more interesting to
680
:be like, well there's, you know.
681
:These, a whole bunch of different
types of lizards and fish or something,
682
:but there's no mammals and no,
683
:uh, You know, I'm, I'm using
our human terms, but you
684
:could, you can science that.
685
:You can make it happen.
686
:Xhafer: The logical leap is there.
687
:Laura: Yeah.
688
:Yeah.
689
:And then that would be a lot more
dangerous too, because the virus could be
690
:like dormant and some of those things, but
691
:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
692
:So since they don't have the ability
to travel out, they were planning on
693
:luring people in and just vivisecting
them until they found a cure.
694
:And this has not gone well.
695
:They've been doing this
for a thousand years.
696
:And had no luck.
697
:Laura: Nothing is working.
698
:So he has a deal for Gideon.
699
:He says, you know, if you will
Share anything that you find out
700
:there with us, we'll share anything
that we find down here with you.
701
:Xhafer: Yeah.
702
:We clearly have super advanced cryogenic
technology that might be worthwhile.
703
:That we didn't have to kill a bunch
of people for, but you know, whatever.
704
:Laura: Yeah, I mean.
705
:Xhafer: Gideon is just not interested.
706
:Laura: Yeah.
707
:He's, he's being very lawful something.
708
:Xhafer: Yeah.
709
:You know, just like, no, that's
no, all that Nazi science that
710
:you guys got to progress medicine.
711
:We can't, we can't use any of that.
712
:Sorry.
713
:Um, you're just going to have
to live with what you've done.
714
:And if we find the cure, we'll
bring it to you so that you can
715
:stand trial for your crimes.
716
:Laura: Yeah, a whole civilization that
needs to stand trial for its crimes.
717
:I, I just feel like there's some
people in there who maybe didn't.
718
:Have any choices at all?
719
:Xhafer: Presumably.
720
:Somewhere in the billion.
721
:Laura: Yeah.
722
:Yeah.
723
:Do they say how many are down there?
724
:Xhafer: All we get is billions with an S.
725
:Laura: Okay.
726
:Xhafer: Which would lead me to
believe it's under 10 over 1.
727
:Laura: Sure.
728
:Yeah.
729
:Eilerson hates this.
730
:He whines about being ethical when
we're just trying to learn stuff.
731
:Xhafer: It's like, we didn't actually kill
these people in the last thousand years.
732
:Like, we can learn from this
that they're already dead.
733
:You know?
734
:It's like, that's Fair, that's mental
gymnastics, but it is, it is a viewpoint.
735
:Laura: Yeah, that's rough.
736
:I don't know.
737
:I don't know what you're supposed to do.
738
:Xhafer: well I mean, there's a lot of
people who have done terrible shit like
739
:this in human history and advanced,
advanced medical science in ways that
740
:we wouldn't have otherwise for it.
741
:Which fucking sucks.
742
:Laura: Amen.
743
:Xhafer: Yep.
744
:Anyways uh, they leave and they
meet up with a white star, uh,
745
:with more potential stops on their
Dead Worlds of the Galaxy tour.
746
:Laura: Yeah, we're just gonna
keep hitting that button.
747
:Xhafer: Right?
748
:Just continuing more, more dead worlds.
749
:Galen quotes Job
750
:Laura: Yeah, we nailed
this one on the quiz.
751
:Xhafer: Yeah, good job.
752
:I, I was just gonna pick a random.
753
:Maybe, like, you got this.
754
:Laura: Yeah.
755
:I don't really remember what this quote
from Job was about exactly, though.
756
:I don't know.
757
:Job
758
:was like, Job was like tested by
the Lord or something, I think.
759
:I don't know.
760
:I'm really the wrong person
to be asking Bible stuff.
761
:Like, I feel like every other Oklahoman,
well, except for Aaron excluded, he
762
:didn't have to do it, but there's
a big contingent of, religions or
763
:Christian denominations here that
like make their children memorize
764
:the Bible as they're growing up.
765
:And that was not a thing
in my household and family.
766
:And so every time people are
like referencing stuff, I'm just
767
:like, I, I don't know, it's all
weird and interpreted weirdly.
768
:Xhafer: hm.
769
:I mean, if, if you, if you made me guess,
I would be like, is that, is that the
770
:one where he made him kill his sons?
771
:Was that the thing?
772
:Hm hm.
773
:That's in there somewhere, right?
774
:Laura: Yeah.
775
:We're always killing sons in the
776
:Xhafer: Right?
777
:There's a lot of that.
778
:Yeah.
779
:Anyways Darina and Galen
talk briefly as he leaves.
780
:Galen is kind of like, Hey, where'd
you find out about this place?
781
:It wasn't in the ranger reports.
782
:He's like, don't you
fucking worry about it.
783
:And then he goes and talks
to the apocalypse box,
784
:Laura: Uh Huh, magic box again.
785
:Xhafer: right?
786
:Which we found out on the
discord is voiced by the actor
787
:who plays Gideon, which is fun.
788
:Laura: Yeah.
789
:Just like distorted.
790
:Xhafer: Yeah.
791
:Laura: So he's just talking to himself.
792
:That's why he talks to the box so good.
793
:Xhafer: Yeah.
794
:it's got that natural discourse.
795
:Laura: He likes scolds the box a
little bit for making a bad choice,
796
:I thought was very
797
:funny.
798
:Yeah.
799
:Come in, come and get me Gideon.
800
:Xhafer: Right.
801
:I'm a box.
802
:What are you going to do?
803
:Punch me, you dumb bitch.
804
:Laura: So this box has, has been wrong.
805
:And this box has also, like,
told us not to trust Galen, who
806
:seems pretty cool in my opinion.
807
:So, I don't know how I feel about the box.
808
:As much as I like the box,
I also don't like the box.
809
:Xhafer: I am not on team box right now.
810
:Laura: Boo box!
811
:Xhafer: Boo box.
812
:Maybe we'll change later after we get
more than three lines of dialogue out of
813
:it or learn anything about it whatsoever.
814
:But until then, boo.
815
:Laura: The box just got me so good when
it came out of nowhere at the end of that
816
:one episode I was like, fucking box, yes.
817
:Xhafer: Well, you rated that
episode high because of that.
818
:And this is the end of this episode.
819
:So we have to hear, does the
box save this episode, Laura?
820
:On a scale of one to four main guns,
where are you putting the would be pilot?
821
:Laura: I mean, I have to give
it The, the boost of crackin me
822
:up with that fuckin homunculus.
823
:So, the last two episodes, you know,
I, I was crackin up at Apocalypse Box.
824
:And then, what was the previous episode?
825
:Oh, the space porn.
826
:That got me really
827
:good.
828
:Like, just tickled the ol
funny bone really, really good.
829
:Then you give me Skippity Toilet
Homunculus, and I'm just rolling.
830
:So, I mean, sure, whatever,
it's like three main guns, cool.
831
:Like, I think this actually wouldn't
have been a terrible pilot, cause you get
832
:like, some reference to Babylon 5 in the
833
:opening.
834
:Xhafer: Yeah.
835
:Yeah.
836
:Laura: Like,
837
:Xhafer: do think this actually
would be a strong pilot, but
838
:it is a miserable not pilot.
839
:Laura: Uh Huh.
840
:Xhafer: I would rather have just watched
Deathwalker, which asks a lot of similar
841
:questions in a much more poignant way.
842
:Laura: Sure, yeah, yeah.
843
:That's the last time we had
this big conversation, isn't it?
844
:Xhafer: Yeah,
845
:Laura: Yeah.
846
:Xhafer: so.
847
:Yeah, if you want to hear me
ramble about Nazi scientists
848
:a bunch, go ahead Deathwalker.
849
:I'm sure I did it there, I
850
:don't remember, it was years ago.
851
:Laura: Hey, I have a question.
852
:Xhafer: what's up?
853
:Laura: What if we'd taken some
of that science from Deathwalker?
854
:Do you think, do you think we might
855
:Xhafer: Cures all diseases, right?
856
:Laura: a cure for the Trach Plague?
857
:Xhafer: I think they would have.
858
:Yeah.
859
:Laura: Oh no.
860
:Xhafer: Well, I mean, the whole
thing with that episode was you had
861
:to like melt people and take the
essence of their life or whatever,
862
:but it wasn't just something
you could make, you had to
863
:like actively kill people.
864
:Laura: you had to have
sacrifices and stuff.
865
:Yeah.
866
:But you'd have a cure
for the drach plague.
867
:Xhafer: Mm hmm.
868
:Laura: Oh no.
869
:Hmm.
870
:Asking that question at some point
would have been more interesting.
871
:I don't know how they would get there.
872
:Like, maybe they find a Dilgar
world or something, but.
873
:Xhafer: The death Walker to
death Walker juniors hanging out.
874
:Like, yeah, I don't know.
875
:Laura: Didn't the Earth
government take her?
876
:Away?
877
:Xhafer: tried
878
:Laura: They tried, but the Vorlons
879
:Xhafer: four lawns.
880
:Yeah.
881
:For our loans were like, fuck y'all
882
:Laura: Yeah.
883
:Xhafer: as they tend to do.
884
:Laura: Shouldn't we go
to the Vorlon world?
885
:Xhafer: No one can for a thousand
886
:Laura: Oh,
887
:Xhafer: limits.
888
:Otherwise, Lita will melt your brains.
889
:Laura: Yeah.
890
:Okay.
891
:All right.
892
:JMS knew I was gonna ask.
893
:Damn it.
894
:Xhafer: Right.
895
:Laura: Lita, what's, no,
Lita's dead now, isn't she?
896
:Xhafer: I think Lita is dead by this
897
:Laura: Okay.
898
:I was like, I feel like Lita
could be really helpful.
899
:She should show up in Crusade, but
900
:Xhafer: The, the, the telepath
the telepath troubles have
901
:happened at this point.
902
:The unpleasantness, as
they call it in Ireland.
903
:Uh, the, the telepath Unpleasantness.
904
:Laura: never,
905
:shown anywhere and not
described in the books.
906
:Yeah.
907
:Yeah.
908
:Xhafer: I, I, I get wanting to save
it, to make it a thing, but also.
909
:Because it was saved so much to
make it a thing, it was never a
910
:Laura: Yeah.
911
:Yeah.
912
:It's like the, the dress you have in your
closet that you never wear because you're
913
:waiting for the right moment to wear it.
914
:Xhafer: Yeah.
915
:Laura: And then you never wear it.
916
:Yeah.
917
:I'm sure you know how that feels.
918
:Yeah.
919
:Xhafer: maybe a tie.
920
:You know, not quite the same,
but same, same, but different.
921
:Laura: Yeah.
922
:Xhafer: Um, I got to imagine
if we get a B5 reboot and
923
:it's like the five season arc,
924
:Laura: Mm hmm.
925
:It's gotta
926
:be in there, right?
927
:Xhafer: it's, that, that has to be season
five instead of the telepath crisis,
928
:Laura: Yeah.
929
:Instead
930
:of
931
:Byron.
932
:Xhafer: Yeah.
933
:Laura: Do you think he
would scrap Byron entirely?
934
:I think he might.
935
:Mm hmm.
936
:Xhafer: I think you would, yeah.
937
:I think in hindsight, that whole,
that whole thing gets axed.
938
:Laura: Yeah.
939
:Xhafer: Maybe it's an episode.
940
:Laura: Yeah.
941
:Like, we're in a new world, I think.
942
:You gotta let
943
:some of that
944
:Xhafer: sure.
945
:In fact, I would love it if there
was a, like, telepath leader and a
946
:similar kind of thing and it takes
place over an episode and at the
947
:end you find out his name was Byron.
948
:A plus, no notes, but I know, I know
JMS isn't listening to this podcast, so
949
:we can, we can pitch story ideas here.
950
:It's a safe space.
951
:Laura: it's a safe space.
952
:He's never coming.
953
:Xhafer: No, that's fine.
954
:Laura: That is fine.
955
:Xhafer: I don't know that I want him to.
956
:I don't want the pressure
957
:of knowing that he
listens to this podcast,
958
:dear God.
959
:I can't imagine what it's like over
on Gray17 getting the occasional at.
960
:No thanks.
961
:Nope, I'm happy here.
962
:I'm happy being a fly
on the wall, thank you.
963
:Laura: I'd feel embarrassed.
964
:I'd be like, man, I probably
said something mean.
965
:Oh no.
966
:Xhafer: We've made so many stupid dick and
fart jokes about his masterpiece of art.
967
:Right.
968
:Laura: Yeah, it's all,
it's all crude over here.
969
:Xhafer: That's just how we do.
970
:Laura: Yeah, that's the, that's
the world I want to live in though.
971
:I don't want to take myself too seriously.
972
:Xhafer: I think we fill an important
space in the Babylon 5 podcasting.
973
:What's the French word that
I'm looking for right now?
974
:All encompassing over, is that it?
975
:Laura: I was just going to say, like,
976
:environment.
977
:Xhafer: Yeah.
978
:ecosystem,
979
:Laura: ecosystem, yes.
980
:Xhafer: Yeah.
981
:Yeah.
982
:Like, there's, there's like your,
your, your plants that, you know, kind
983
:of feed everyone else, you know, like
your, your, your older podcasts and
984
:you got your newer podcasts that are
like animals walking around, right.
985
:And then you got, you're
like, you're really focused.
986
:Like Baz is over there doing like
super high end critical analysis
987
:stuff, you know, Yum Yum gets into
some of that too, you know, like really
988
:like, I think they're like the birds,
989
:Laura: Mm.
990
:Yeah, okay.
991
:Okay.
992
:Xhafer: And we are like
the dung beetle, right?
993
:Laura: Yeah.
994
:So important, though.
995
:Like, you can't have an
ecosystem without it.
996
:Xhafer: Right, but we smell bad.
997
:We, no one likes us.
998
:We make stupid jokes, but
we're happy, and that's
999
:all
:
00:45:12,515 --> 00:45:12,745
Laura: hmm.
:
00:45:13,065 --> 00:45:13,385
Mm
:
00:45:13,385 --> 00:45:13,845
hmm.
:
00:45:13,845 --> 00:45:14,255
Yeah.
:
00:45:15,225 --> 00:45:16,255
And we survive.
:
00:45:16,475 --> 00:45:17,015
Mm hmm.
:
00:45:17,260 --> 00:45:17,760
Xhafer: Right.
:
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,130
Speaking of surviving, what, assuming
everything goes well on our travels.
:
00:45:25,530 --> 00:45:25,960
Yikes.
:
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,400
Okay, maybe that's too dark.
:
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:30,240
Maybe I crossed a line there.
:
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,431
Let's cut that and find
:
00:45:32,745 --> 00:45:34,435
Laura: I don't know, I'm on a Boeing, so
:
00:45:34,895 --> 00:45:35,645
pray for me.
:
00:45:37,715 --> 00:45:43,025
Xhafer: So next up we got episode 12
next week, visitors from down the street.
:
00:45:43,645 --> 00:45:47,706
Um, speaking of which uh, speaking of
coming episodes, we didn't even say it.
:
00:45:47,736 --> 00:45:51,486
Uh, Scott had a last minute emergency and
wasn't able to join us from gray 17 today.
:
00:45:51,936 --> 00:45:56,376
Um, we did advertise that we did
say that, um, he'll be joining us
:
00:45:56,416 --> 00:45:58,136
on an episode in a couple of weeks.
:
00:45:58,136 --> 00:45:58,926
We're rescheduling.
:
00:45:59,046 --> 00:46:00,166
We haven't figured it out yet.
:
00:46:00,546 --> 00:46:03,246
But we hope everyone over
there is doing great.
:
00:46:03,556 --> 00:46:05,356
Um, and feeling better soon.
:
00:46:05,511 --> 00:46:05,731
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:46:06,188 --> 00:46:10,798
Hey, maybe he'll want the, the
upcoming next episode, which
:
00:46:10,798 --> 00:46:12,888
I believe we nailed it again
:
00:46:13,558 --> 00:46:20,108
on the quiz, because this was
an episode homaging the X Files.
:
00:46:20,913 --> 00:46:25,093
Xhafer: Yes, this is episode 12 visitors
from down the street to persecuted.
:
00:46:25,518 --> 00:46:31,258
Alien investigators based on FBI agents
Mulder and Scully from the X Files believe
:
00:46:31,268 --> 00:46:33,528
that Earth is covertly invading them.
:
00:46:34,593 --> 00:46:36,163
Laura: Where are you getting
that description from?
:
00:46:36,163 --> 00:46:38,213
That was not the iTunes description.
:
00:46:39,058 --> 00:46:41,408
Xhafer: Um, moviedp.
:
00:46:41,408 --> 00:46:41,778
org?
:
00:46:41,803 --> 00:46:42,323
Laura: Okay.
:
00:46:42,563 --> 00:46:42,873
Yeah.
:
00:46:42,913 --> 00:46:46,313
Mulder and Scully were not
specifically mentioned in
:
00:46:46,368 --> 00:46:48,818
Xhafer: Oh, in mind
they, they were in mind.
:
00:46:48,838 --> 00:46:49,438
That's fun.
:
00:46:49,723 --> 00:46:50,053
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:46:50,123 --> 00:46:50,443
That is
:
00:46:50,458 --> 00:46:52,658
Xhafer: So yeah, maybe, maybe
Scut will join us next week.
:
00:46:52,658 --> 00:46:56,538
Probably not though, because I
think next week we're Recording in
:
00:46:56,833 --> 00:46:58,253
Laura: Oh, that's right.
:
00:46:58,373 --> 00:47:00,083
You had that brilliant idea.
:
00:47:00,838 --> 00:47:04,448
Xhafer: We are bringing the recording
set up to Star Trek, Las Vegas with us.
:
00:47:04,628 --> 00:47:09,418
And for the very first time,
we will be in the same room in
:
00:47:09,418 --> 00:47:11,358
the same state recording, let
:
00:47:11,373 --> 00:47:13,563
Laura: God, that's so weird.
:
00:47:14,253 --> 00:47:14,343
I
:
00:47:14,343 --> 00:47:15,993
hope it doesn't kill the podcast.
:
00:47:18,248 --> 00:47:20,658
Xhafer: I don't think it
will kill the podcast.
:
00:47:20,748 --> 00:47:21,838
I think we'll be fine.
:
00:47:22,748 --> 00:47:28,453
Um, I mean, we already rely on
video when we record a great deal
:
00:47:28,563 --> 00:47:32,913
to read each other's facial cues
and context and stuff to make a
:
00:47:32,913 --> 00:47:34,113
more natural flow of conversation.
:
00:47:34,113 --> 00:47:36,683
So I don't expect it to be weird.
:
00:47:36,883 --> 00:47:39,313
The only thing will be weird will be
the first time I've ever podcasted
:
00:47:39,323 --> 00:47:41,653
wearing pants, but we'll get over that.
:
00:47:45,148 --> 00:47:46,038
Laura: just bring you a dress.
:
00:47:46,038 --> 00:47:47,148
You don't have to wear pants.
:
00:47:47,483 --> 00:47:48,243
Xhafer: thanks.
:
00:47:49,328 --> 00:47:49,628
Laura: Let's
:
00:47:49,628 --> 00:47:49,958
not go
:
00:47:50,063 --> 00:47:50,923
Xhafer: bring one of my own.
:
00:47:50,923 --> 00:47:51,453
It's fine.
:
00:47:51,973 --> 00:47:54,838
Um, Yeah, no, so it'll be next episode.
:
00:47:55,038 --> 00:47:58,368
Uh, We will be recording in
person at Star Trek Las Vegas.
:
00:47:59,182 --> 00:47:59,892
that'll be fun.
:
00:48:00,017 --> 00:48:00,577
Laura: can't wait.
:
00:48:01,402 --> 00:48:01,872
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:48:01,922 --> 00:48:04,042
Uh, Just like, I can't
wait to say thank you.
:
00:48:05,042 --> 00:48:05,602
Thank you.
:
00:48:05,652 --> 00:48:07,652
Jeremy Siegel for our lovely theme music.
:
00:48:07,702 --> 00:48:09,132
Is Jeremy going STLV?
:
00:48:09,507 --> 00:48:13,497
Laura: No, he has a big trip for something
else planned later this year, so.
:
00:48:13,712 --> 00:48:14,122
Xhafer: Okay.
:
00:48:14,422 --> 00:48:14,812
Bummer.
:
00:48:15,242 --> 00:48:16,082
That would have been fun.
:
00:48:16,142 --> 00:48:17,232
Would have been cool hangs.
:
00:48:17,237 --> 00:48:17,657
Laura: I know.
:
00:48:18,542 --> 00:48:21,332
Xhafer: Um, but yeah thank you,
Jeremy, so much for our theme music.
:
00:48:21,392 --> 00:48:23,232
Maybe next year we'll see you at STLV.
:
00:48:23,322 --> 00:48:26,337
But if not Uh, you can find more
of Jeremy's work at JeremySiegel42.
:
00:48:26,627 --> 00:48:27,167
bandcamp.
:
00:48:27,167 --> 00:48:30,647
com and in streaming
services as Nuclear Jaguar.
:
00:48:30,937 --> 00:48:33,217
Laura: And thank you to Angry
Duck Time Machine on Instagram
:
00:48:33,227 --> 00:48:34,677
for our podcast artwork.
:
00:48:35,247 --> 00:48:37,567
Xhafer: Aaron, thanks so much
for editing this podcast.
:
00:48:37,567 --> 00:48:40,957
I'm still apologizing for that
last episode and that massive
:
00:48:40,977 --> 00:48:42,637
bit I made you do at the end.
:
00:48:43,137 --> 00:48:45,567
Really appreciate all that
time I made you put in there.
:
00:48:45,747 --> 00:48:46,947
Laura: I think it was fun, though.
:
00:48:46,977 --> 00:48:48,277
I think he had fun with it.
:
00:48:48,617 --> 00:48:49,097
We'll see.
:
00:48:49,967 --> 00:48:53,067
And thank you to you, the
listener, for putting up with
:
00:48:53,067 --> 00:48:54,707
another episode of Crusade.
:
00:48:54,767 --> 00:48:55,987
I hope you enjoyed it.
:
00:48:56,017 --> 00:48:59,657
I hope you had a good laugh at
Skibbity Toilet Man, like I did.
:
00:49:00,347 --> 00:49:03,707
Because you just gotta, like, look
at the show a little less seriously.
:
00:49:04,877 --> 00:49:05,307
Xhafer: sure.
:
00:49:06,245 --> 00:49:06,635
All right.
:
00:49:06,655 --> 00:49:08,085
Well, we'll see you next week, internet.
:
00:49:08,645 --> 00:49:09,355
Laura: Bye!
:
00:49:27,475 --> 00:49:29,285
Xhafer: I am going to go watch
some more Skibbity Toilet though.
